Ninth Circuit Oral Argument

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Ninth Circuit Oral Argument Nov 21, 2012 17:53:23 GMT -5

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We just received notice from the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals that:

The court is of the unanimous opinion that the facts and legal arguments are adequately presented in the briefs and record and the decisional process would not be significantly aided by oral argument. The court orders this matter submitted without oral argument, on December 4, 2012.

There will therefore, be no argument of this case before the open Court; the matter will be decided on the record as it now stands.

Please consider: it may well be that the three Justices assigned to hear this case realized that the issues are well laid out and well briefed; and, perhaps they determined at their pre-argument conference on this case that they were all of one mind - in other words, they already unanimously agree on the result, and there are simply no areas of the law which need to be further discussed.

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Thanks for the update and explanation Al!

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Do we assume this is Great news? Anyone?

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Thank you Al for this update !

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imSINGLEruRICH John Winston Lennon O' Boogie DIAMONDS ARE A GIRL'S BEST FRIEND !! Posts: 31,335	Ninth Circuit Oral Argument Nov 21, 2012 18:53:05 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 21, 2012 18:53:05 GMT -5 Dare we hope to truly have something to be thankful for, regarding CMKX, on Thanksgiving Day, 2012 ?? Please let it be......... SINGLE
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Ninth Circuit Oral Argument Nov 21, 2012 20:02:01 GMT -5

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Nov 21, 2012 18:53:05 GMT -5 imSINGLEruRICH said:

Dare we hope to truly have something to be thankful for, regarding CMKX, on Thanksgiving Day, 2012 ??

Please let it be.........

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It would be a Thanksgiving to be remembered by all.
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John Winston Lennon O'Boogie Johm Winston Lennon o' Boogie Posts: 6,538	Ninth Circuit Oral Argument Nov 21, 2012 22:15:38 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Nov 21, 2012 22:15:38 GMT -5 It seems to me that the SEC will not be able to be heard.. The 3 Judges seem to only see one way. To me that means Hodges may have won.. I could be wrong.. Anyone else see it that way..?

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Ninth Circuit Oral Argument Nov 21, 2012 22:23:17 GMT -5

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Nov 21, 2012 22:15:38 GMT -5 John Winston Lennon O'Boogie said:

It seems to me that the SEC will not be able to be heard.. The 3 Judges seem to only see one way. To me that means Hodges may have won.. I could be wrong.. Anyone else see it that way..?

John,
The way I see it is that Hodges would not have posted such a reserved response if he thought things had gone badly. The tone of his posting, while being emotional-less, does present the idea of a good outcome. Lets hope things are going our way.

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Ninth Circuit Oral Argument Nov 21, 2012 23:03:39 GMT -5

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Just thinking.....
Could it possibly have anything to do with this ?? Beware.... I have never claimed to understand any of the legal mumbo jumbo.
But.....Remember the Mediation Document from March 3rd, 2011?

THEN,
At one point in an update AL Hodges stated... "WE WON". Possible Settlement.?? ... just askin' ??

UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT
CIRCUIT MEDIATION OFFICE

www.411-room.com/AppealCourt/OrderSettingAssessmentConference030311.pdf

No. 11-55169
ORDER SETTING
ASSESSMENT CONFERENCE
Date: March 21, 2011
Time: 2:00 p.m.
Pacific (San Francisco) Time

PS... Be sure to read the
INFORMATION ABOUT ASSESSMENT CONFERENCES

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Ninth Circuit Oral Argument Nov 21, 2012 23:29:44 GMT -5

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Nov 21, 2012 22:15:38 GMT -5 John Winston Lennon O'Boogie said:

It seems to me that the SEC will not be able to be heard.. The 3 Judges seem to only see one way. To me that means Hodges may have won.. I could be wrong.. Anyone else see it that way..?

Yes John, that was my reaction, as well.

Take anything I say seriously - at your own risk.

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Ninth Circuit Oral Argument Nov 22, 2012 0:14:42 GMT -5

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in other words, they already unanimously agree on the result, and there are simply no areas of the law which need to be further discussed.

Seems..... I remember we were told that AH would not update us again until either:

1.There was no hope

2. We won

WELL?? Geezussss...... Which the hell is it ?? Do they agree with the result of the lower courts? Or could it be that they agree with some other result?

SINGLE

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soonerlew God of Diamonds Posts: 17,329	Ninth Circuit Oral Argument Nov 22, 2012 0:23:33 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by soonerlew on Nov 22, 2012 0:23:33 GMT -5 The court orders this matter submitted without oral argument, on December 4, 2012. Does this mean that the decision will be made on the 4th? That it will all be over then? OR am I reading that wrong?
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crajaraman Guest	Ninth Circuit Oral Argument Nov 22, 2012 0:29:59 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by crajaraman on Nov 22, 2012 0:29:59 GMT -5 yes, we will either get a ruling on 4th or very soon after..

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Ninth Circuit Oral Argument Nov 22, 2012 0:33:43 GMT -5

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Here's what I found...

Decision
The appellate panel will usually issue a written opinion explaining why it reached the decision that it did. Like the time between briefing and oral argument, the time between oral argument and the written decision varies considerably between different courts. The California Court of Appeal has 90 days to issue an opinion, although they have the option to "resubmit" the case and extend their time by 90 days. The Ninth Circuit has no deadline, and the time varies considerably.

So who knows........ Do we wait & wait some more??

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crajaraman Guest	Ninth Circuit Oral Argument Nov 22, 2012 0:35:21 GMT -5 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by crajaraman on Nov 22, 2012 0:35:21 GMT -5 yes, but AH's post suggests otherwise....unanimous decision is probably made already.....just a matter of putting it out officially..

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Ninth Circuit Oral Argument Nov 22, 2012 0:39:40 GMT -5

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Nov 22, 2012 0:35:21 GMT -5 @crajaraman said:

yes, but AH's post suggests otherwise....unanimous decision is probably made already.....just a matter of putting it out officially..

I agree, decision made......But do they still have NO DEADLINE ? We all know just how fast anything to do with the system happens.

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