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Post by bubbles99 on Aug 6, 2010 19:15:59 GMT -5
I guess so Ed, and thank you I do respect others opinions. I guess I'm just frustrated because its been the same thing for so long and there really has been no change. I do in my heart believe that we will be paid what ever the amount may be. But you some times I feel like they say " $hit or get off the pot." and right about now someones constipated. nine or tens years now has been along time, my life does not depend on the out come of this. Granted it would be nice, but this story is getting old. Sorry its just my opinion. B
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Post by gusjarvis on Aug 6, 2010 21:04:40 GMT -5
the fact is the rcmp in canada and the regulators in canada want to just evade me and us. I have had to think of ways to try and force them to act and still they want to evade investigating this.
I talked to the commercial crime division this week, I actually felt that they were going to help despite the fact an rcmp friend told me they will just give me the run around. I went from getting this investigated to at the last minute getting it moved to someone going on vacation for august, but would investigate.
Now I have to file the complaint against the head of the commercial crime division of british columbia to force them to investigate al's allegations and my evidence. I have sent correspondence and evidence to the complaints commission to investigate our case but had to give the rcmp another chance to do the right thing. They will do nothing in the end without being forced to.
I will show the letter that goes into the complaint to force the rcmp to investigate al hodge's allegations. I have been consulting with an ex rcmp officer who knew they would do this, but still says it is their duty to investigate.
The complaint I put in first said that I wanted to settle the complaint unofficially as all I was asking for was for our authorities to do their duty and investigate crimes happening as we speak to thousands of canadians. I will ask the shareholders that watch the boards to join in the request for our case to get investigated immediately if we are not paid monday. I have already done this, but don't want to have others go out of their way until the line in the sand is done. If we are paid then great, if we have no news monday I hope all follow the instructions put out by the coalition, again it will be simple but effective.
I wish from our front we had information for everyone that our funds were safe today, we are fighting the system, but will do what it takes to get this investigated and to make this public.
cheers
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Post by delusionalgrandeur on Aug 7, 2010 1:12:43 GMT -5
I probably figured correctly in pm'n you my response to your post above.
I'm sure no one's really curious as to what I had to say, but I will leave it as,
I AM ABSOLUTELY DUMBFOUNDED AFTER READING THIS POST....I simply cannot believe what I just read five times.
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Post by gusjarvis on Aug 7, 2010 10:24:05 GMT -5
delusionalgrandeur, I understand your frustration. I have had to go through the system, at the point I was on tuesday of this week I felt we actually were about to have this properly looked into. I had answers that sounded good and I was actually shocked it appeared we were getting somewhere. The commercial crimes division made it sound like they were going to honestly investigate my claims and our case. I have not just sat here hoping, I have put correspondence into the body that investigates the rcmp several times preparing for the worst case scenario or the run around and trying to use that as leverage to make them act. The body told me to make a specific allegation against a specific individual. I put our evidence in with the threat that it was getting investigated if they didn't act immediately, they said they would. A day went by without a phone call back, then two, then I phoned and said I had enough waiting and I was moving on the compliant, then they moved me to someone who said he would investigate our claims and case. It seemed to have worked to me at this point.
Unfortunately they were prepared for what I am attempting and came back with we will investigate but you have to now mail in your information, then the officer said he would be away for august but would definitely open the case and do the initial investigation. This was emphasized to get around the investigation as when I file they will say the rcmp is doing their duty and agreeing to investigate. The officer emphasized again at the end of the call that he is willing to open the case, that gets him out of liability on his end, he thinks.
If you don't play the game by their rules to some degree I couldn't have even filed the complaint, it wouldn't be accepted as I tried to file it already. Now that I have done the process right I can file against this specific officer, the grounds will be that he is not investigating current allegations of crimes happening at this moment. He wanted my certs, what I paid for my shares, and direct documents of the crimes. I came back with it is way past trying to prove wrong doing on tdwaterhouse's part as they have already made deals with you, I said. Of course he came back with prove it and I said the proof is a phone call away, he refused to make the call and wanted to start right from scratch to do the investigation.
In the end, I told him not investigating the current allegations made by Al Hodges was unacceptable and that it was in fact his duty to investigate the crimes being committed against me and to be prepared that it has now moved to the next level to force that. He finished by saying I am not refusing to investigate your case, and that was it. I phoned my friend who is in the rcmp and he agreed it is their duty to investigate the current allegations now and that it is time to file the complaint officially.
I am sorry it was not better or that I haven't moved on some people's time lines, but even calling for investigations into authorities is not that easy due to the bureaucracy involved, and doing it wrong is just a waste of time. It has been a thousand times more frustrating for me going through this let me tell you my friend. I am just a person trying to fight the system, I am not an insider who is following a script, I am fighting the script that is already written.
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Post by gusjarvis on Aug 7, 2010 10:25:53 GMT -5
I will post the letter that has been written for the public complaints commission against the head of e division of the rcmp tomorrow that will try and force the investigation into Al's claims. Delusional, give me until you read it to understand what I have been trying to accomplish, if it isn't what you like or hoped then let me have it. cheers and it has been good talking to you off boards, I am what I am on and off boards my friend, not a character
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Post by joe on Aug 7, 2010 12:09:26 GMT -5
the fact is the rcmp in canada and the regulators in canada want to just evade me and us. I have had to think of ways to try and force them to act and still they want to evade investigating this. I talked to the commercial crime division this week, I actually felt that they were going to help despite the fact an rcmp friend told me they will just give me the run around. I went from getting this investigated to at the last minute getting it moved to someone going on vacation for august, but would investigate. Now I have to file the complaint against the head of the commercial crime division of british columbia to force them to investigate al's allegations and my evidence. I have sent correspondence and evidence to the complaints commission to investigate our case but had to give the rcmp another chance to do the right thing. They will do nothing in the end without being forced to. I will show the letter that goes into the complaint to force the rcmp to investigate al hodge's allegations. I have been consulting with an ex rcmp officer who knew they would do this, but still says it is their duty to investigate. The complaint I put in first said that I wanted to settle the complaint unofficially as all I was asking for was for our authorities to do their duty and investigate crimes happening as we speak to thousands of canadians. I will ask the shareholders that watch the boards to join in the request for our case to get investigated immediately if we are not paid monday. I have already done this, but don't want to have others go out of their way until the line in the sand is done. If we are paid then great, if we have no news monday I hope all follow the instructions put out by the coalition, again it will be simple but effective. I wish from our front we had information for everyone that our funds were safe today, we are fighting the system, but will do what it takes to get this investigated and to make this public. cheers will do.thanks gus
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Post by ishmel on Aug 7, 2010 13:27:16 GMT -5
Gusjarvis sir, a question for further understanding. Is it your belief that the RCMP is either acting as a typical don't give a sh;t police force, or are the being told to neglect your request for investigation, or are the some how apart of the plan? TIA
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Post by z06mike on Aug 7, 2010 14:36:09 GMT -5
Gusjarvis sir, a question for further understanding. Is it your belief that the RCMP is either acting as a typical don't give a sh;t police force, or are the being told to neglect your request for investigation, or are the some how apart of the plan? TIA Ish, Do you mean "somehow a part?" as in connected with the plan or "somehow apart" from the plan as in not connected? Just trying to understand because I believe your question is critical in understanding the barriers Gus is encountering. Thanks, Mike
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Post by gusjarvis on Aug 7, 2010 15:13:06 GMT -5
the sting was done in canada using canadian land, je worked out of langley b.c. with accounts, they were fully aware of the sting and were apart of it. Deals cut for canadians and canadian companies and deals involving canadian citizens have to be signed off on by canadian officials.
It is clear that one of two things is up, this is over and vic toews office told me they would have answers in five weeks which is about a week from now and the rcmp have put me off until now because this is over, or if things are not finishing up like we have all heard then something is wrong. I hate the thought of the line in the sand being moved back for the thousandth time, it shows there will never be a line in the sand, but maybe, just maybe, this is the real line in the sand and all authorities know it and will evade until it is announced.
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