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Post by thunkerdrone on Aug 21, 2010 7:20:18 GMT -5
"several people have sent us (Thank you!) copies of the mentally unbalanced junk that these people engage in with the hope that Omega will pay out, such as occasional meditation sessions, as well as exchanging rumors of the "global conspiracy" that they believe is holding up alleged Trillions of dollars that have accumulated in Omega, which is nothing more than a bank debenture fraud of a type we have chronicled on too many occasions. Want to know how gullible the "Omegans" were? Many of them sent in their "loans" in cash, wrapped in aluminum foil, and sent by an express courier service such as Federal Express or United Parcel Service, i.e., leaving no money trail which could be followed. They were told, and believed, that their money would be invested in European banks, to be traded as part of "secret" programs that would yield a huge return. But the return to-date has been zero, which of course is the average and typical return of these bank debenture programs - in fact, no bank debenture program has EVER had a higher payout than zero, and we have offered a $10,000 challenge to anybody who can prove the existence of even a single bank debenture trading program which was successfully completed from start to finish with a profit exceeding more than 50% per year." complete article here: www.quatloos.com/cm-omega/cm-omega.htm |
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Post by agfadoc on Aug 21, 2010 7:56:57 GMT -5
So you're trying to equate the CMKX saga with Omega... Instill rational thinking to the masses... The meek, the uneducated, the mild mannered shareholder of Cmkx...
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Post by agfadoc on Aug 21, 2010 7:59:15 GMT -5
I'm certain that Ameritrade got my tin foil wrapped cash.
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Post by ilovelucy on Aug 21, 2010 8:03:44 GMT -5
WELL..........DOES THIS SOUND FAMILIAR?  ?? REPLACE PRESIDENT OBAMA'S NAME WITH PRESIDENT BUSH'S IN THIS NEWSLETTER SENT OUT BY OMEGA SCAM PERPETUATORS: From our July 2000 Newsletter Omega Scam Gets Dumber AND DUMBEST Since we've been writing this newsletter, we been laughing about a bank debenture scam that has been going on since 1993 - without paying a dime - and which has some of the dumbest followers of any scam in history. That's right, we're talking about Omega Trust & Trading Ltd., a "prime bank" scam which was run out of the Mattoon, Illinois, area by somebody using the name "Clyde Hood". This program promised people that if they put up a mere $100 that they would get back $5,000 in 270 days. But as you can imagine it somehow didn't pay off. Still, some of the original investors still believe that this program will pay! They have in their (midget) minds that untold trillions have been accumulated by this program, but that the money is behind held by unnamed "European bankers", and of course the group which is mentioned in just about every nut conspiracy theory: the Rockefeller family. To give you an idea how stupid these people are, we are going to reprint below an actual letter received from one of the Omegans which describes a non-existent court action which they believe is going on in federal court somewhere: "This is not I repeat not a rumor this is for real. "We have a emergency call to prayer for everyone. David Rockefeller of Chase Manhattan Bank and George Bush Senior are blocking the delivery of this and other programs. They are defying a Federal Judge order that is demanding this be delivered immediately. There is a Supreme Court Justice that has been in the courtroom the last 6 days advising the lady Federal Judge. This is happening in Manhattan, New York. "We are told that if this is not funded by 9:00 AM Thursday that they all are going to jail, the bankers, Federal Express, the attorneys and anyone else that is involved blocking this program from delivery. The federal judge stated that she will make this public on national television if this is not delivered. "The international bankers around the world are hopping mad and demanding this be finished. This is blocking many other major transaction and we are about ready to have a world wide financial crisis if this does not deliver. |
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Post by agfadoc on Aug 21, 2010 8:17:44 GMT -5
WELL>>>> We have an actual case in court, not some fabricated case.. We used brokers, not sending $100 in cash in tin foil.. while there may be some similarities in the length of time and this certainly has worked out to be a scam of a different nature, there is no comparison otherwise.
We certainly are not the dumbest shareholders on the planet... well most of us anyway.
In addition, I don't need anyone to help me through my CMKX addiction, thanks but no thanks. I am not a soft minded drone that needs the help from anyone who thinks I am a conspiracy theorist.
It is what it is, and if there is something there, I'll get it, if there is not, I'll continue to be successful in other areas of my life, I do not bank on this happening and nobody should, but most of us are the upper middle class who took a chance at a stock, and not some lowly (midget) minded dumbarss who played for the first time.
The victim cry, wears thin, I'll take advantage of this like I will anything else.
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Post by goodolboy on Aug 21, 2010 9:07:54 GMT -5
WELL..........DOES THIS SOUND FAMILIAR? ?? REPLACE PRESIDENT OBAMA'S NAME WITH PRESIDENT BUSH'S IN THIS NEWSLETTER SENT OUT BY OMEGA SCAM PERPETUATORS: From our July 2000 Newsletter Omega Scam Gets Dumber AND DUMBEST Since we've been writing this newsletter, we been laughing about a bank debenture scam that has been going on since 1993 - without paying a dime - and which has some of the dumbest followers of any scam in history. That's right, we're talking about Omega Trust & Trading Ltd., a "prime bank" scam which was run out of the Mattoon, Illinois, area by somebody using the name "Clyde Hood". This program promised people that if they put up a mere $100 that they would get back $5,000 in 270 days. But as you can imagine it somehow didn't pay off. Still, some of the original investors still believe that this program will pay! They have in their (midget) minds that untold trillions have been accumulated by this program, but that the money is behind held by unnamed "European bankers", and of course the group which is mentioned in just about every nut conspiracy theory: the Rockefeller family. To give you an idea how stupid these people are, we are going to reprint below an actual letter received from one of the Omegans which describes a non-existent court action which they believe is going on in federal court somewhere: "This is not I repeat not a rumor this is for real. "We have a emergency call to prayer for everyone. David Rockefeller of Chase Manhattan Bank and George Bush Senior are blocking the delivery of this and other programs. They are defying a Federal Judge order that is demanding this be delivered immediately. There is a Supreme Court Justice that has been in the courtroom the last 6 days advising the lady Federal Judge. This is happening in Manhattan, New York. "We are told that if this is not funded by 9:00 AM Thursday that they all are going to jail, the bankers, Federal Express, the attorneys and anyone else that is involved blocking this program from delivery. The federal judge stated that she will make this public on national television if this is not delivered. "The international bankers around the world are hopping mad and demanding this be finished. This is blocking many other major transaction and we are about ready to have a world wide financial crisis if this does not deliver. Hmmmmm... A new age Bonney and Clyde? Could it be? |
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Post by varnson on Aug 21, 2010 11:14:40 GMT -5
Any one that thinks they can send somebody $100 and get back $5,000 in 270 is a fool of the highest degree and deserves to lose their money...period.
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Post by goodolboy on Aug 23, 2010 8:28:19 GMT -5
Cottrel tied to other Omega/CMKX type scams: Googled Mike Cottrell & bank debenture and this came up... Prime Bank Guarantee Scams Investment Fraud Schemes Offering High-Yield Instruments Scam "They tell you that they have no interest in stealing your money because they make enough from the deal already and want to have you participate in the next program so you can both get rich together. Many exotic sounding banking terms are used which are confusing to all but the professional banker or investor. Soon you feel too self-conscious and ignorant to ask further questions. As the investment appears to involve overly complex loan funding mechanisms this makes even a questionable investment appear worthwhile. When you ask for references you are shown high-quality documents emanating from institutions such as the U.S. Federal Reserve, the IMF, the World Bank, the Bank of England and even the Queen of England to win your confidence but, with the secrecy provisions, there is no way to check their authenticity. They even question "your" integrity when they suggest you might have to have a background check done by Scotland Yard or Interpol to ensure that your funds are not from money laundering or drug sources." These are posed as international deals and the names that are mentioned in the communication include: Trijar Trading Company Safekeeping Investment Trust Janus LLC Michael Cottrell (Mr. Cottrell may present an Australian passport)Vail W. Pischke Manchester Capital Co. LTD John C. Bright, Q.C. (Canadian) Robert Hryniak (Canadian) www.crimes-of-persuasion.com/Crimes/InPerson/MajorPerson/prime_bank.htm |
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Post by goodolboy on Aug 23, 2010 8:28:45 GMT -5
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Re: Dumber Than CMKX'ers? Omegans
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Scam from the 90's proves the bogus payday pump, year after year can be done and WORKS. Convertible debenture by Turino...Edwards Group, kiss of death financing, in RICO companies, unregistered shares, etc. Too many names to mention but think perhaps Acca, to pump garbage to shareholders in paltalk rooms. In stages, new gurus, new information, new excuses why money doesn't come. We haven't one come forward and say it's shape shifter lizards from another planet....yet.
Remember the movie The Sting? There's an important technique in it. You can't let the victims know they've been scammed, even after the con.
Trial run started in the 90's....Pinnacle Business Management, perfected...CMKM
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Post by goodolboy on Aug 23, 2010 8:29:02 GMT -5
4profit Gill Netter member is offline Joined: May 2010 Gender: Female Posts: 265 Re: Dumber Than CMKX'ers? Omegans « Reply #10 Yesterday at 11:49pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Omegan's were in a Multi Tiered 'Payment Domino' Structure also: THE MULTI-TIERED ‘PAYMENT DOMINO’ STRUCTURE The tiered payee/recipient ‘domino’ payment structure, established as indicated above by Bush-Greenspan in such a way that (so they have long imagined) the interlocking transactions could be destabilised and thwarted at any stage by means of sabotaging one or more key targeted payouts – enabling the stolen funds and related accruals to be held and traded by their criminal networks indefinitely – was layered roughly as follows [please note that this outline information must not be construed as authoritative: it represents what we understand to be the case to the best of our knowledge and belief]: Tier One: The Group of Eight/Group of Ten countries (incorporating Russia and China) and key ‘special’ recipients and trustees incorporated within Tier One. Tier One pays Tier Two. Tier Two: The 160 national representatives referenced above. Tier Two pays Tier Three. Tier Three: OMEGA Ponzi financial scam victims and investor trustees, thought to number about 420 trustees, with perhaps 20,000 recipients between them. Tier Three pays Tier Four. Tier Four: Retired US Federal Government officials and their families who were scammed by their own Government and were never paid. Tier Four pays Tier Five. Tier Five: Smaller bankers and institutions that invested funds (in $100 or $200 million increments) into high-yield investment programs and were never paid out (i.e. were scammed, in accordance with the Bush-Greenspan ‘never-pay’ model: see above). Tier Five pays Tier Six. [Subsequent details unknown]. It is understood that there were originally eleven such Tiers, but that Tiers Nine, Ten and Eleven have been ‘cancelled’ or merged, as the funds in question may have been stolen by Bush Sr. (41) and by former President Clinton (42). The Katrina funds, as we pointed out in an earlier report, were stolen (worth $2.1 billion). i know you already know where this came from.......... worldreports.org/news/114_lee_wantas_settlement_is_now_18_months_overdue |
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Post by goodolboy on Aug 23, 2010 12:04:15 GMT -5
Here's some more: beckins Pirate member is offline I came I saw....didnt learn much Joined: Jan 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 986 Location: Virginia Karma: 24 [ Exalt | Smite ] From the Obama letters...Bonney. « Thread Started Yesterday at 3:36pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- • Said funds are sufficient to cover all disbursements to be made by the authority of one Lindell H. (Bill) Bonney, Sr., the Paymaster. • Mr. Bonney has spent more than eight weeks over the past three months, in Richmond, for the purpose of consummating these transfers. • Mr. Bonney has, at the direction of the Pentagon, London, et. al., recently returned to Richmond to consummate the transfers and is standing by to do so. • Mr. Bonney has been, most recently, directed to complete his monetary transfer duties by the conclusion of this date; again, he is standing by to do so. • Mr. Bonney was advised this morning, by the referenced bank, that the bank could not allow the transfers to be made until authority was received directly from the White House. and Mr. Bonney is a man of "refruitible" reputations: viewer.zoho.com/docs/aIaW6MUST READ: L.H.(Bill) Bonney, Sr. I am unable to copy/paste this document. Use your search tool for: Bonney Hits begin on p.3, para.8 This involved Bonney, the same Ohio guy as in previous post, opening a Luxembourg bank account to receive $500,000 from the pigeons, 2 Saudis named Fayez and Samia, for some sort of 'high yield capital enhancement program', with Bonney to invest the money. Bonney reported to Fischer who is the party receiving the Cease and Desist Order. Naturally, things went sideways. p.3 8. In May or June 2000, Ervin Terry withdrew as a manager of Taylor Financial, Ltd. Fischer contacted an individual named L.H. (Bill) Bonney, Sr. ("Bonney") of 7453 Nethersole Dr., Middleburg Heights, OH 44130, to find out if he could invest the funds received from Fayez. [etc] YOU WILL LOVE PAGE 5. 17. In August 2001, Samia was interested in receiving the return of some of his investment. Bonney arranged the transfer of $50,000 from the account at the Banque Internationale du Luxembourg to an account at the Citibank Dubai branch for the benefit of Samia and/or Fayez. 18. On October 18, 2001, Fischer sent a letter by fax transmission to Fayez regarding the reciept of profits. She stated that everything had stopped after September 11th, however "things are finally moving again." She hoped to have good news soon but did not know when. 19. On November 8, 2001, Fischer sent a letter by fax transmission to Fayez stating that "the Paymaster" was still waiting to sign the final transfer instructions at the bank. The money would then go into a trust account under Bonney's control. This would be the first transfer of the funds from the "Spanish project." ... p.6 25. To date, Fayez and his heirs and Samia have not received the return of the $300,000 loaned to Bonney and Fischer to fund their investment program. Fischer stated that she has not received any of the funds invested by Fayez and Samia. --- READ THE WHOLE THING I had to type the text above and it's tedious. The 'bolding' was done by me, not in original. www.iid.state.ia.us/orders_actions/fischer.pdf BEFORE THE IOWA INSURANCE COMMISSIONER IN THE MATTER OF BARBARA JEAN (HATINGER) FISCHER CEASE AND DESIST ORDER AND CONSENT TO CEASE AND DESIST ORDER AND AGREEMENT DIVISION FILE NO.: C04-10-305 i hope Mr. Hodges has not invested with Bonney nor Cottrell! |
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Post by goodolboy on Aug 23, 2010 12:36:19 GMT -5
What a huge coincidence... gusjarvis, isn't your main source omegapoint? Concidering the parallels between the Omega scam and what's taking place here, he sure didn't choose his alias wisely.
No doubt it's a coincidence though.
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Post by thunkerdrone on Dec 10, 2010 7:56:50 GMT -5
Any one that thinks they can send somebody $100 and get back $5,000 in 270 is a fool of the highest degree and deserves to lose their money...period. uh-uh, that is 'law-of-the-jungle' reasoning , which implies that anyone who is foolish enough to be victimized deserves it. Lets apply the same reasoning to some other scenarios. If someone's car is stolen, do they deserve it if they foolishly bought a model of car that is known to be a favorite target of car thieves? Do people deserve to be mugged if they foolishly walk through the wrong neighborhood at night? I am not buying that any trusting or naive people who are victimized by criminals using disinformation and propaganda actually kinda sorta deserva ita becausa they issa stupida. Not for a minute. The people who are stealing money in this way are criminals. The government has gone into the booze-selling business, the casino business, the narcotics trafficking/drug laundering business, and now it seems that they are just going ahead into the investment scam business, all of them under essentially the same protective 'national security' umbrella of secrecy and invulnerability. |
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Post by thunkerdrone on Dec 10, 2010 8:21:35 GMT -5
re: Omega Trust and Trading scam:
Omega Trust and Trading founder Clyde Hood and his 18 associates were indicted in 2000. Some of them pled guilty or were convicted of multiple counts of fraud, mail fraud, money laundering and filing a false tax return (see 26 U.S.C. § 7206).
On April 10, 2001, Hood pled guilty to mail or wire fraud conspiracy, money laundering conspiracy, and filing a false tax return.[1]
On January 24, 2002 Hood was sentenced to prison for 14 years and was fined $5,000. Five of his associates were convicted of active participation of the scheme and were ordered to make restitution. Thirteen associates were convicted of money laundering. Three hundred fifty-five victims received restitution from forfeited Omega Trust funds to the total of $1,697,310.00.
The Omega Trust still lives on in the Internet as a supposed global poverty relief program (see NESARA).
Hood is imprisoned at the "Federal Medical Center Devens," north of Worcester, Massachusetts, and is scheduled for release in November of the year 2012.
Omega Trust was a fraudulent US investment scheme in Illinois.
Clyde D. Hood is a former electrician from Mattoon, Illinois. In 1994 Hood formed Omega Trust and Trading Limited and began to lecture to church groups. He said that the Lord had given him a mission. He claimed that he was one of the international traders who could make secret multimillion-dollar deals to benefit humanitarian programs through debentures and "prime bank notes" in foreign banks. Hood asked for an investment of $100 and promised a payout of $5,100 within 275 days. He wanted the money delivered wrapped in aluminum foil and via Federal Express because U.S. federal government was trying to block the trades through the United States Postal Service. Therefore the scheme should remain secret. Thousands of people from USA and overseas sent money.
The program stopped accepting new investors in 1995. By that time, Hood had received more than $10 million. He began to present number of excuses as to why investors had not been paid, blaming administrative costs, problems with foreign banks and international financial conflicts. When some people still wanted to join, Hood and accomplices claimed that they could sell share units of people who had wanted to leave the program. The estimated total amount of money was $20 million.
In addition, Hood began new investment schemes named Alpha and Destiny and obtained more money from those who had invested to Omega. With the money Hood and his associates bought land and businesses in Mattoon, gave no-interest loans and made trips to Europe. Some of the money also went to finance businesses of other Hood associates like construction contractor Chris Engel.
Engel later cooperated with the police and let them tape a phone conversation with Hood. Hood lawyer Steve Ryan was also later removed from the case when he was subpoenaed as a witness and for possible collusion.
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Post by georgie18 on Dec 10, 2010 8:30:08 GMT -5
Manny....could you check the front door it appears to be ajar and some terrible aroma is making it's way in.........
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