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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 25, 2014 19:36:06 GMT -5
Thanks Snifferpup for the input.
I guess I will never ever understand CMKX. "Pants on Fire" regarding statements (made on RB) that she had already posted on the MM board..... No stats showing it to be so, at that time. Yet, It is her.......?? Oh well.......Guess another one to shove into the "CMKX Mystery Bag", along with the last Peter Maheu, Pinocchio fiasco.
Thanks again... Pup. SINGLE
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 28, 2014 19:32:50 GMT -5
ines DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD 9 hours ago
Well, this just became a kind of a big drama.. it all seems a lot of energy to prove if one of the people that participated in all of our boards.. like paltalk, and proboards.. besides RB is that person.
At this point.. if its really Abad I think it should be easy for her to show up on paltalk and talk.. so there is no doubt it is her.
I mean Abad is capable and smart and resourceful to manage to get back into any of the different ways we connect into cmkx community.. where there is no doubt its her.
RB is just the most questionable one, and personally the whole thing is a lot of drama for me.
Its nice Dy said she talked with her.. but quite simply.. If Abad decided to be back.. it should be without a doubt it is her to large number of people.
Logging into paltalk and talking on the mic.. would be the way. We all remember her voice.
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Post by snifferpup on Jul 28, 2014 22:59:47 GMT -5
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Post by axis on Jul 29, 2014 6:32:32 GMT -5
The Shocking Reason Putin Isn't Worried About The $50 Billion Yukos Ruling Having $50 billion of assets under potential seizure is enough to make anyone whince. However, despite a quickly worded statement on the Yukos award, Vladimir Putin seems less than anxious to find a resolution. We think we know why, and it's very concerning. As The FT reports confirming our earlier comments: The award is a landmark not just for its size – 20 times the previous record for an arbitration ruling. The tribunal also found definitively that Russia’s pursuit of Yukos and its independently-minded main shareholder, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, a decade ago was politically motivated. ... Though Russia cannot appeal against the award, Moscow said it would pursue all legal avenues for trying to get it “set aside”. Even if the ruling stands, shareholders face a tortuous battle trying to enforce it. If Moscow refuses to pay, they must pursue Russian sovereign commercial assets in the 150 countries that are party to the so-called 1958 New York Convention on enforcing arbitration awards. But perhaps this explains why Putin is not coming out swinging, as The FT concludes, One person close to Mr Putin said the Yukos ruling was insignificant in light of the bigger geopolitical stand-off over Ukraine. “There is a war coming in Europe,” he said. “Do you really think this matters?” www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-28/shocking-reason-putin-isnt-worried-about-50-billion-yukos-ruling
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 31, 2014 16:27:08 GMT -5
swather DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Post by swather on 10 minutes ago
People here keep talking about value........we need value before we can trade again.............but, they never tell us how much value they feel is necessary before we trade again............$500,000.........$5 million.........$50 million.....how much?
there was a company that was trading on the Pink Sheets in 2013 at around $0.50 per share...putting the company value at around $26 million......I forgot the name, but the company was based in Vancouver...
the company was a used car dealer with 26 used cars on his lot valued at roughly $100,000
the trading at $0.50/share started to get very active and began moving up based on rumors of a big announcement................the announcement was that they bought a bank in Switzerland and the stock price took off in heavy volume to the $3.00 range..........a few weeks later, the company announced that they had bought another bank in Germany............and again, the stock took off to the $7.50 range
These two announcements got the traders all excited and the churning of the stock was evident...........but, what did they really buy?..........in both cases, the company only bought the name of a long defunct bank for about a $thousand each ....but, in doing so, the stock price took off and the insiders and many traders made a fortune before the company fell back down to the $0.05 range and disappeared........
the point is that traders do not buy on the Pinks Exchange for long term investment......they are speculators that trade short term...............any where from hours to days to weeks.............I have traded many stocks where I never knew the name of the company let alone knowing what their business was............its all on price movement and share volume.............with software that is available to traders, you can pick out a trade quickly just by seeing a lot of trades going though and price movement........
So, remember, SK is not trying to create another General Electric or Walmart, but he is trying to create something that can put the company on to the Pinks again and get trading........its rumors that move stocks and the greater the speculation, the greater the stock price will move...........maybe the best rumor would be a settlement with Wells Fargo..........now, if we could get trading again before a settlement, if it comes, with Wells Fargo, that could give the stock price a great boost........
so, the goal now is to find some business that would get us going, even at a small start.............and SK is interested in the oil production business..........that could be a great starting point for bigger investments.............
so, the point I am making is that SK should not worry about share "value" as much as planning on a good basic business to get the company rolling again onto the Pinks Exchange............
IMHO
on a side note, maybe it is time for SK to consider preferred shares and allow some people to put money into the company......it could speed up the entry into the oil business and trading again..............
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Jul 31, 2014 18:46:58 GMT -5
800 Billion shares.. We seen this statement before.. = 0001... Unless you hit it big in the commodities..
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Post by theotherside on Jul 31, 2014 19:01:40 GMT -5
So this guy is basically advocating a return to the pink sheets followed up by a series of vague, semi-truthful pr's in order to drive the share price up. Sounds kind of familiar, sort of like it's 2003/2004 all over again.
Well, it would accomplish a couple things, we might be able to get out whole and the boards would continue on.....moderated by a new, much younger crop of CMKX bagholders. No, I'd rather just see it die with us, no reason to pass this mess on to a younger generation.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 2, 2014 8:09:56 GMT -5
thanks Seagull....
Desperado says..... 23 hours ago desperado2100 said: IMHO... Acca's (and the Team's) so-called "secrecy" is based on trying to appease a very fickle government team, led by a very unstable (when it comes to decision-making) and flip-flopping President; Cabinet; and Fed Resv Chairman/Bank (with related ties to the IMF, etc.). When so many players have 2 cent bets in the game, it's mighty hard to figure whose butt has the highest priority for kissin , to acheive the maximum results, without injuring the tender feelings of the others; and, while (all the while) insuring "they" still believe THEY are the important and dominant player. It must be a major challenge to negotiate the mine-field, of all those involved, without offending them to the point that they become focused and intent on damaging our outcome or delaying it significantly more than has already happened. I think Acca, and the Team are doing a great job of walking the tightrope while maintaining the balance necessary to make the "walk" safely and surely. ~ Des
BUT,Carlos says...... carlos DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Post by carlos on 9 hours ago
ACCA is BS until he can produce otherwise. He has had his 10 years of "savant/aspergers"
I'm glad Des and HH have faith in him , I want that also, because that means at least someone believes in him, but as in my original statement....he has no cred until he can produce.
Many "good ballplayers" have come and gone, without a lot of, or no production....show me,.....please.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 2, 2014 17:41:01 GMT -5
3 hours ago ggroovy said: Certainly CW there is more here than just waiting for money to show up, as you say. You say you want to "see how the story ends." How about how the story started? To me, there lies the real truth why CMKX became "an addiction". This CMKX Saga has been an education to say the least.
There is a lot of info we aren't being told or explained for a reason. I believe it will continue that way until each one of us figures it out. We are given hints along the way to steer our thinking and enable us, out of curiosity, to explore on our own to educate ourselves about what is going on in the world. One example is how will "countries align". That should turn our attention to world events, how the economic system affects other countries, and that there is a bigger picture we should look to. That should wake us up that this is not just about CMKX. At the point it went global, I'm not sure if the "success" of CMKX depended on that, the "failure" would have produced different results. The fact that the Dinarians, Christopher Story, The White Hats, and other various web sites are quoting Al Hodges' works shows me that CMKX was to succeed first. I look at its "success" as exposing corruption in Wall Street and bringing a criminal case to justice. That "success" might have also include keeping the shareholders in the dark for 10+ years.
You mention this might be an illusion. Interesting word! Maheu was a master of disinformation/illusion. Taking your quote, "by challenging (and as appropriate, dismissing) elements among us who keep lying to us", I would reword that to say, "by challenging (and as appropriate, dismissing) elements among us whom we accept as truth". Try taking the side of, "What if everything they were telling us was fabricated all along?" If you can do that, then the illusion will start to drop right before your eyes.
ChuckWheat DIAMOND JEDI MASTER about an hour agojcraig4444 likes this Hi Ggroovy,
I've though on this perspective for some time, and for the bulk of my time as a CMKXer I've believed much as you describe...there's been too much wierdness, like IBM, the drag races, CIM, the cert pull, to mention a few, for this not to have something to it. Then I wonder why we have people like Acca here that are generally accepted as having contacts to some of the PTB, yet nothing they say seems to come to a good ending.
Misinformation has been our constant companion theory along our journey, and to some degree that makes sense...anything we know any potential adversaries would know as well, with the latter using this knowledge against us and those serving us.
But then I think about the nature of misinformation campaigns...to be effective, there usually is a great degree of verifiable truth with a twist. So if I wanted to misinform someone, I would tell everyone (friend or foe) things that seem believable yet has one element to the information that sounds reasonable but is not truthful.
In our circumstance, we've had a few things that seemingly align with some prognostications, most notably the "realignment of countries" comes to mind. But among the ocean of information droplets we've been fed over years, the vast majority have proven over time not to be true in nearly all respects.
This isn't good for us, and I'll explain why below.
-------------------------- I grew up in the woods, and learned the value of the old saying that if you're hunting, think like you're being hunted instead of thinking like a hunter. That small change in perspective makes a big difference in your success rate in finding your prey.
So if I apply the same logic to our circumstance (think like a potential adversary attempting to prevent and take any money we may be due), what kind of value would you place on information on these boards?
If I knew 99+% of everything I was being told was not good information, and could figure out things by understanding the world around me (like the fact that countries routinely change allegiances when Dems are in office, because they don't focus on much of anything other than gaining more power by focusing on domestic/social issues), I could easily determine that spending time and energy monitoring a shareholder created message board wouldn't get me any meaningful information that I could use against shareholders and their handlers.
So as a hypothetical bad guy, why would I bother going to these places for information?
On reflection, I would argue that the PTBs know this too...which leaves us with a puzzle...why are they spinning such bad tales for an audience that just wants to get paid, and really doesn't care about the rest of the storyline in this real-life soap opera...especially since there's not a reasonable likelihood that any bad guys are here to read anything that could help them?
What could be gained from telling tales to a captive audience of shareholders of a dead, delisted company? What could be gained from lying very badly to people who would seek to harm us financially...if they cared enough to be here?
-------------------------- The only answers I've come up with stitches things together as I understand them is that this isn't something a reasonable person or group would bother doing, unless they feel there's something to gain from it...or the people giving us these updates are not who they seem to be, but rather people who are getting their kicks out of hurting CMKXers for our collective sin of not being so investment savvy a decade ago.
-------------------------- Finally, on reflection of your last paragraph I would still maintain that if the sources of the bad information (intentional or not) are cut off, the bad information would also start drying up. The benefit here is the pursuit of truth...if we really want out of our self-created cages, we're going to have to get comfortable with the idea of not having gurus here to hold our hands...and comfortable with the idea that there may not be a pot of CMKX gold at the end of this rainbow.
Would this be fun? Probably not, as I suspect the boards could go very quiet unless people use them for social support. Would it drive the PTB to release our funds? It may or may not, but it would send a clear signal to them that we're fed up with the stories and gurus, and we want to be treated with some respect as real people.
We've given them ten good years of our lives to get us paid, and kept faith despite the lies, silent treatment, and lack of results. It's time they started treating us respectfully, and either get us paid or let us know it's over.
AIMHO, C-Dub
No pessimist ever discovered the secret of the stars, or sailed an uncharted land, or opened a new doorway for the human spirit. ~Helen Keller
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 5, 2014 5:46:16 GMT -5
For those of you who CAN access the Millionaire Board.... An amazing & informative thread posted by Duc N Alutm. The thread, called "The Adobe Files", is an amazing 11 page thread which consists of 264 posts. Kudos to Duc !! Super Job !! SINGLE (Thanks seagull) millionaires.proboards.com/thread/47742/adobe-files?page=1Duc N Alutm's very informative thread, The Jay Adobe Files
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 6, 2014 5:39:05 GMT -5
14 hours ago portrush said: We're not far apart...except I think the "team" needed unknowing, willing participants in order to affect a plan. But the plan is far larger and more detailed than the unknowing participants will ever be allowed to comprehend in totality. They'll remunerate because they have to (according to Hodges) but only when they have to in the manner which they're required. Until then, we wait and question. I don't think those truly in charge care. Or perhaps they do care--but not that much. I'm sure there are some truly honest patriots among them, otherwise they could have killed the company 10 years ago and colored this o-v-e-r. As has been said many times, this isn't only about CMKX. It's just that's all we've been led to believe or willing to believe in light of other theories that are admittedly easier to dismiss than grab hold of.
pr
14 hours ago ines said: I would like you to explain it to me in some straight forward ways..
because I can not make any logical explanations that touch on anything Hodges talks about to be directly related to a cmkx trust, that is already funded.
Not one thing our of his whole story makes any practical sense in relation to cmkx trust from my perspective.
Give me a straight forward example please.
portrush Administrator Post by portrush on 13 hours ago
Dennis Smith said to me once, "In order to believe you have to suspend your beliefs." I took that to imply that when you've been ingrained with something for a long time, a truth, life lesson, belief of some sort...its challenging to let go and embrace something you've never thought of, or thought of in such a different manner. In other words, it sounds SO unreasonable it couldn't possibly be true...even though it may very well be. Hodges made the comment about the Trust being funded (in court!) as a result of Maheu's meeting/activity with those who were involved on the wrong-end of share sales. I've always seen it as a "take it or leave it" proposition. I cannot see any personal gain to be had from lying about it, and historically Hodges had not displayed any track record of falsehoods...so I am willing to accept it at face value. I believe the man...for some, that's the battle. Not for me.
For some things I've read or heard, I simply didn't have an understanding to even begin to make heads or tails of its relevancy or basis in truth. Some seem crazy to this day. Yet, rather than question them to the point of being crippled in unbelief or speculation, I accepted them for what they were (just words not addressed to me) and kept my eyes on the goal line. I don't care about the steps to get there, just as long as we get there. Well...I care, just not that much. I don't understand much of it so I'm not worried about trying to figure it out. If a sting, I fully expect to have no expectations for explanation.
When it came to the WGS/RV stuff, I stepped outside the CMKX stadium and sought understanding elsewhere. Books, blogs, websites. And I learned a lot...enough to satisfy my questions about whether something like that could be real, regardless of what its called or the smoke/mirrors behind getting it accomplished. In short, yes I believe it can, and indeed is being accomplished albeit under different terminology.
So when it comes to Hodges comments specifically, I believe it leaves us with a Believe/Don't Believe decision. His comments are all documented on this board. He has never shied from making them publicly, nor has he disappeared. He took his convictions, found some who identified the same and rode that train to the Supremes. Many don't get it, don't want to get it and others would prefer to dismiss it as foolishness simply because they won't invest themselves in trying to accept it.
Here's a difference perhaps...I am flexible enough to believe that I don't have to understand every detail in order for something to be real. The key is to be resilient...to take the "Huh? What the..." and be able to compartmentalize it along with the "what-evers" or seek to find understanding outside of the box we're in searching for answers. (I.E.) Want to see if conspiracies are real? Quit reading ONLY conspiracy sites. Resilience isn't just a passive virtue, its also something we have to be able to incorporate into the way we work through the "information" that comes by way of these boards and paltalk rooms coupled with "real" information outside the CMKX walls.
Eee-gads...this is getting preachy. Sorry...but one more overarching comment. Richard Nisbett is an experimental psychologist. Several years ago he spoke of a Chinese student and the fundamental differences in the way the two of them thought. The Chinese believe in constant change. Westerners live in a simpler, more deterministic world. They think they control events because they know the rules that govern behavior. Well, I've reached the point that to believe there is any restitution coming (and I believe there is)...we won't be able to control the behavior or events that make it so. "Constant change" is a reality...whether in action or just in the stories we've been told over time. For me, that impacts the timeline. I accept constant change because I know if one doesn't, it won't be long before you're left behind the rest of the world. I can't say, however, that I like it. Ten long, arduous, confusing, insulting years...here we are.
That said, I have my limits. As I've mentioned before--I've moved my line in the sand so many times I'm running out of sand. Last year I said "not one more year"...I think I said that the year before as well. And I'm at that point again. If this rolls into 2015, I hope I have the intestinal fortitude not to roll with it, because I am sure tired of the intestinal waste we've been rolled in over time. But that won't mean I'll give up hope...I believe Al was/is shooting square with us, so I am willing to accept it at face value. It's a choice...there's really nothing more I can say.
pr
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Aug 6, 2014 6:12:32 GMT -5
Good Morning, Thank You Single. For some reason, I really like reading what comes out of pr's mind..
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 6, 2014 9:09:55 GMT -5
Good Morning, Thank You Single. For some reason, I really like reading what comes out of pr's mind.. Morning John & your welcome. It is truly amazing that anyone, who is still followimg this saga, has any resemblence to a "mind", left at all. lol Yes, there are some shareholders posts that I look forward to & enjoy reading.... PR is one in that group.
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Post by 3bid on Aug 6, 2014 9:30:31 GMT -5
In an email to 3bid, Gabby stated:
There's a part in the Godfather film where Pacino say's " Just when I thought I was out…they pullll me back in " After reading pr's post this morning put out by single…I'm cautiously optimistic once again…God knows for how long…but he's made my morning….now the afternoon….well that's a long way off…. :-)
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Aug 6, 2014 11:18:42 GMT -5
In an email to 3bid, Gabby stated:
There's a part in the Godfather film where Pacino say's " Just when I thought I was out…they pullll me back in " After reading pr's post this morning put out by single…I'm cautiously optimistic once again…God knows for how long…but he's made my morning….now the afternoon….well that's a long way off…. :-)
Hey Gabby, where are you...? You old Long Islander... Still selling wine I hope.. Stop by and say Hi... P.S. If you, do I'll give George a call and have him stop by also..
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