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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 15, 2013 16:29:51 GMT -5
ponders *Gold* Re: Certiorari has been denied. « Reply #59 Today at 3:54pm »
It's all to prove trivial points. Urban was a crook, bottom line. He screwed everybody equally. He's a fugitive of the law and will have his day in court, or death if that's in the cards first. He has no assets in this company. Every last bit is either sold or worthless to him. Sure family members could swindle some funds to him, but its pocket change at best. His business affairs are finished and he's living on what he was able to escape with. Which has dwindled as with most criminals who stole their fortunes. Lets only hope he spends his final days rotting in US federal prison.
JWLOB *Diamond* Location: Long Island NY Re: Certiorari has been denied. « Reply #60 Today at 4:07pm »
The last line will never happen.. He walks free.. He walks free for the last 10 years. I'm starting to believe it's the way it should be..
cyaikman *Gold* Re: Certiorari has been denied. « Reply #61 Today at 4:09pm »
Rufus was jailed within a year of the discovery of his fraud!!
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Post by goldengriff on May 15, 2013 16:45:56 GMT -5
ponders *Gold* Re: Certiorari has been denied. « Reply #59 Today at 3:54pm » It's all to prove trivial points. Urban was a crook, bottom line. He screwed everybody equally. He's a fugitive of the law and will have his day in court, or death if that's in the cards first. He has no assets in this company. Every last bit is either sold or worthless to him. Sure family members could swindle some funds to him, but its pocket change at best. His business affairs are finished and he's living on what he was able to escape with. Which has dwindled as with most criminals who stole their fortunes. Lets only hope he spends his final days rotting in US federal prison. JWLOB *Diamond* Location: Long Island NY Re: Certiorari has been denied. « Reply #60 Today at 4:07pm » The last line will never happen.. He walks free.. He walks free for the last 10 years. I'm starting to believe it's the way it should be.. cyaikman *Gold* Re: Certiorari has been denied. « Reply #61 Today at 4:09pm » Rufus was jailed within a year of the discovery of his fraud!! cyaikman, you are an uninfromed blockhead! When did you ever read thru the cshd/fhal trading records...never If you had you would never make a statement like that Blockhead was my seventh choice of adjectives, by the way
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Post by timonesock on May 15, 2013 19:31:12 GMT -5
cyaikman *Gold* member is online Joined: Jul 2012 Gender: Male Posts: 408 Re: Certiorari has been denied. « Reply #64 Today at 7:17pm » Hmmmm I would shut my face if I were goldengriff!!!! That's my FIRST line of thought!!!! Convicted Fugitive Financier Caught in St. George by Pat Reavy, AP writer Published - 05/30/11 - 11:00 AM | 0 | 9 | | More Sharing ServicesShare This Article|Share on facebookShare on twitterShare on diggShare on fark (St. George, UT) - A nationwide manhunt for a man who disappeared after his trial for securities fraud, wire fraud and conspiracy had started, was arrested south of St. George late Saturday night. Rufus Paul Harris, 43, formerly of Adairsville, is the co-founder and former CEO of Kennesaw, Georgia based Conversion Solutions Holdings Corporation. He was convicted in US District Court Thursday of eight counts of securities fraud, wire fraud, conspiracy and false certification of a financial statement and could be sent to prison for effectively the rest of his life and fined nearly $3 million when he’s sentenced August 18. (Atlanta Journal story) Also being sentenced in August will be Conversion Solutions Holdings’ co-founder and former chief operating officer, Benjamin Stanley, 48, of Kennesaw, who was convicted of securities fraud, wire fraud and conspiracy, and the former chief financial officer, Darryl Horton, 50, of Okemos, Michigan, who pleaded guilty to conspiracy while the jury was deliberating. Harris chose to represent himself during the trial rather than hire an attorney. On May 23, after eight days of the trial, Harris skipped town while free on bond. The trial continued, however, and all three men were convicted. US marshals were able to track Harris to a residence in Bloomington Hills just south of St. George, said Mike Wingert, with the Joint Criminal Apprehension Team (JCAT). They actually began surveillance of him early Saturday, he said. Harris had two former business associates in southern Utah who were not part of his illegal activities, Wingert said, and were unaware that he was on trial and had fled. He was found at the home of one of those associates. When JCAT officers made their move Saturday night, they thought Harris was ready to flee again, Wingert said. US marshals believed he had been traveling by night and sleeping in his car when he wasn't staying with friends. Prompt notice that Harris had fled helped the interstate investigation, coordinated by Lead Deputy Lorena McCaigue of the Marshals Service offices in Oklahoma, where Harris most recently lived, and Utah authorities working with the Atlanta office to follow Harris’ trail. He was found hiding in a utility closet in the basement, Wingert said. Harris already faced a possible sentence of 25 years in prison for his securities fraud conviction. He now faces additional charges and penalties for bail jumping. Read more: KCSG Television - Convicted Fugitive Financier Caught in St George Report to Mod - Link to Post - Back to Top Logged Read more: tfant53.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=8648&page=7#ixzz2TPY6H16Z
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 15, 2013 20:17:11 GMT -5
Wow, Goldengriff....You rise from the ashes just to insult & call someone names?? Not cool !! You haven't been here for awhile so maybe you need to revisit the rules RULE. RESPECT for Members of this board. My first choice of words would be...... DISRESPECT = CONSEQUENCES So chill...... OH.... and by the way, I believe I asked this question before but did not get an answer....... Did Kevin West ever track you down?? Seems right after I was made aware that he was trying to contact you .........you disappeared for a long time from the boards?? Just curious??
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Post by crajaraman on May 15, 2013 20:42:52 GMT -5
I can understand to some extent why goldengriff was rude.. I was in cshd myself before I bailed out with a nice profit on a one week run.. The line of credit or funds that Rufus Harris claimed to have in his possession which were the main reason sustaining the price and rise of cshd were verified independently in Euroclear. The SEC and GOVT claimed he lied about those funds...there also maybe other issues they claim he lied about.. I agree the press release from cyaikman is d*mning, but Rufus took a cavalier, cowboy attitude towards the PTB at the time, even bragging about bringing about the demise of an all-American entity like Ameritrade..or Ameriturd as your disposition dictates.. cshd also had a good amount of NSS.. Of course the PTB of the time would categorize it as a classic pump and dump....who knows.. In some circles where belief endures that there would be a market wide settlement of NSS when the time comes, cshd still has loyal followers and to them Rufus is a hero crucified by "the system".
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Post by timonesock on May 15, 2013 20:55:21 GMT -5
cyaikman *Gold* member is online Joined: Jul 2012 Gender: Male Posts: 410 Re: Certiorari has been denied. « Reply #67 Today at 8:51pm » My point was not that he was guilty or not! My point was this chsd incident took place after the supposed CMKX SCAM yet Rufus is serving what may be life in prison... Yet no one from CMKX has even been convicted Yet!!! Things that make you go omg!!!! Another point Goldengriff don't call me out unless you have facts to back it up ...I will back hand you with the truth!!! Dr. Of Diamonds member is online Joined: Sept 2012 Gender: Male Posts: 230 Re: So what is REALLY going on? ? « Reply #34 Today at 8:42pm » I can understand to some extent why goldengriff was rude.. I was in cshd myself before I bailed out with a nice profit on a one week run.. The line of credit or funds that Rufus Harris claimed to have in his possession which were the main reason sustaining the price and rise of cshd were verified independently in Euroclear. The SEC and GOVT claimed he lied about those funds...there also maybe other issues they claim he lied about.. I agree the press release from cyaikman is d*mning, but Rufus took a -thingyy cowboy attitude towards the PTB at the time, even bragging about bringing about the demise of an all-American entity like Ameritrade..or Ameriturd as your disposition dictates.. cshd also had a good amount of NSS.. Of course the PTB of the time would categorize it as a classic pump and dump....who knows.. In some circles where belief endures that there would be a market wide settlement of NSS when the time comes, cshd still has loyal followers and to them Rufus is a hero crucified by "the system". « Last Edit: Today at 8:43pm by crajaraman » Report to Mod - Link to Post - Back to Top Logged Report to Mod - Link to Post - Back to Top Logged Read more: tfant53.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=8648&page=7#ixzz2TPtHv81Z
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2013 9:21:29 GMT -5
ponders *Gold* Re: Certiorari has been denied. « Reply #59 Today at 3:54pm » It's all to prove trivial points. Urban was a crook, bottom line. He screwed everybody equally. He's a fugitive of the law and will have his day in court, or death if that's in the cards first. He has no assets in this company. Every last bit is either sold or worthless to him. Sure family members could swindle some funds to him, but its pocket change at best. His business affairs are finished and he's living on what he was able to escape with. Which has dwindled as with most criminals who stole their fortunes. Lets only hope he spends his final days rotting in US federal prison. JWLOB *Diamond* Location: Long Island NY Re: Certiorari has been denied. « Reply #60 Today at 4:07pm » The last line will never happen.. He walks free.. He walks free for the last 10 years. I'm starting to believe it's the way it should be.. cyaikman *Gold* Re: Certiorari has been denied. « Reply #61 Today at 4:09pm » Rufus was jailed within a year of the discovery of his fraud!! cyaikman, you are an uninfromed blockhead! When did you ever read thru the cshd/fhal trading records...never If you had you would never make a statement like that Blockhead was my seventh choice of adjectives, by the way What was your first adjective? Jus' sayin... ;D Mike
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Post by goldengriff on May 16, 2013 10:15:56 GMT -5
cyaikman *Gold* member is online Joined: Jul 2012 Gender: Male Posts: 410 Re: Certiorari has been denied. « Reply #67 Today at 8:51pm » My point was not that he was guilty or not! My point was this chsd incident took place after the supposed CMKX SCAM yet Rufus is serving what may be life in prison... Yet no one from CMKX has even been convicted Yet!!! Things that make you go omg!!!! Another point Goldengriff don't call me out unless you have facts to back it up ...I will back hand you with the truth!!! Dr. Of Diamonds member is online Joined: Sept 2012 Gender: Male Posts: 230 Re: So what is REALLY going on? ? « Reply #34 Today at 8:42pm » I can understand to some extent why goldengriff was rude.. I was in cshd myself before I bailed out with a nice profit on a one week run.. The line of credit or funds that Rufus Harris claimed to have in his possession which were the main reason sustaining the price and rise of cshd were verified independently in Euroclear. The SEC and GOVT claimed he lied about those funds...there also maybe other issues they claim he lied about.. I agree the press release from cyaikman is d*mning, but Rufus took a -thingyy cowboy attitude towards the PTB at the time, even bragging about bringing about the demise of an all-American entity like Ameritrade..or Ameriturd as your disposition dictates.. cshd also had a good amount of NSS.. Of course the PTB of the time would categorize it as a classic pump and dump....who knows.. In some circles where belief endures that there would be a market wide settlement of NSS when the time comes, cshd still has loyal followers and to them Rufus is a hero crucified by "the system". « Last Edit: Today at 8:43pm by crajaraman » Report to Mod - Link to Post - Back to Top Logged Report to Mod - Link to Post - Back to Top Logged Read more: tfant53.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=8648&page=7#ixzz2TPtHv81ZThe facts are in the filings, the documents, and the court filed evidence It is all there, easy to understand, no explanation needed,.... in most cases What cmkx/BM didn't get completed, cshd/Rufus did. Sorta like a tag team The "trip" to Utah (tehe) had major relevance to what is today in the political world You see sir this cmkx/cshd saga is very much connected And it will be revealed And you and all will read about it What you think you know will be shattered into thousands of pieces and leave you scratching your head in wonder Prez O is indicating we have rouge agencies within gov agencies d*mn good observation Good luck to you sir, I have a feeling you won't take the truth very well. Could be devastating for you
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Post by timonesock on May 16, 2013 10:45:26 GMT -5
There is one fact your overlooking Rufus is in PRISON!!! That seemed to be the posters point!!!
The poster was not claiming he was put there on merit or not!! He was pointing to the fact it shouldn't take this long to have a trail and put UC in prison because they did it to Rufus very quickly!!!
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on May 16, 2013 10:49:03 GMT -5
There is one fact your overlooking Rufus is in PRISON!!! That seemed to be the posters point!!! The poster was not claiming he was put there on merit or not!! He was pointing to the fact it shouldn't take this long to have a trail and put UC in prison because they did it to Rufus very quickly!!! The real point is with UC walking 10 years and still walking free.. I didn't post that on another board for someone to make an example of it..
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Post by goldengriff on May 16, 2013 12:47:13 GMT -5
There is one fact your overlooking Rufus is in PRISON!!! That seemed to be the posters point!!! The poster was not claiming he was put there on merit or not!! He was pointing to the fact it shouldn't take this long to have a trail and put UC in prison because they did it to Rufus very quickly!!! The real point is with UC walking 10 years and still walking free.. I didn't post that on another board for someone to make an example of it.. UC kept his mouth shut, as required therefore he walks among the free Rufus in prison? To better understand this saga, you must first eliminate the obvious
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on May 16, 2013 12:57:04 GMT -5
The real point is with UC walking 10 years and still walking free.. I didn't post that on another board for someone to make an example of it.. UC kept his mouth shut, as required therefore he walks among the free Rufus in prison? To better understand this saga, you must first eliminate the obvious Very good on your part Mr. G.G.
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Post by marbearcat on May 16, 2013 13:00:16 GMT -5
In my most humble opinion U.C. was a crook who was saved by stumbling into and helping catch much bigger crooks.
I don't believe he ever gave a d*mn about us.
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Post by JoeRockss on May 18, 2013 11:21:17 GMT -5
nada999999 DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Re: CMKM Webinar #18 Scheduled May 21, 2013 at 8 « Reply #6 Today at 12:35am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I like these words :establish credibility with government agencies
Mr Maheu did say that we are in a sorts of patrnership with the Government.
I believe that there are 2 tasks:
One was for Mr Hodges to close that loophole for others of similarly situated to not sue the Government.
and for the Company to become legit in the eyes of the Government.
AIMHO
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Post by JoeRockss on May 20, 2013 12:29:30 GMT -5
swather DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD What's happening with the trust....IMHO « Thread Started on Feb 14, 2012, 5:29am »
Show asked me what I thought was the cause of the delay in receiving our money from the trust. I decided to make a new thread rather than have it buried in someone elses thread.
ok, from a question from Show and Lucy, two of my favorites, I'll explain what I can. You both, as well as everyone else, can either accept it or not accept it. It doesn't matter to me because I understand completely what is going on.
First of all, the trust fund payout has nothing to do with any of these so called world events, the Iraqi dinar, global settlement funds, etc, etc.....
It has everything to do with the powers of Wall St. and the people who exercise this power.
As Frankie said in his very first statement, the DOJ and SEC approached Robert Maheu to do something about the corruption on Wall St. The sting idea was hatched and the rest is history. RM worked for the DOJ and the SEC but more directly with the SEC.
When the big Vegas meeting was held for everyone to pay up, it was run by Maheu with the SEC in the background but very noticeable.
The SEC controls the trust fund but only from the very top. The lower level employees do not know anything about it.
The trust fund was to be paid out several years ago. But, something happened....... RM died.
Suddenly, there was a vacuum, an absence of power representing the shareholders. And the SEC, until recently, has been very weak in their dealing with Wall St. and the "bad guys".
So, these "bad guys, recognizing this, began the fight to return to them all the funds held in trust.
And, you must remember who the bad guys are....the brokers and the hedge funds.......people who earn hundreds of millions of dollars a year in income.
Also, we as shareholders must remember that Wall St. and these crooks regard us as merely a bunch of whining shareholders, like mosquitoes on the back of their necks.
These bad guys do not like to lose and they feel RM pulled a fast one on them......and they want their money back. The amount of money in the trust fund is no small amount by any standards....including Wall St. The result is that these billionaires have hired the top Wall St. lawyers to try and stop any trust payout and have all funds returned to them.
Acca once said that shareholders will be surprised as to who our friends are. Well, the SEC is our friend and are the ones fighting the on slot of lawyers from the bad guys. As we know, court cases move very slowly and every time the SEC wins a motion, the crook's high priced lawyers throw another obstacle in their way. There lawyers are high priced for a reason......
So, now we are at a situation where we have two approaches to this whole trust fund matter. Part of the trust fund agreement was to keep this whole trust fund a secret from the public. The SEC agreed to that but is now fearful that it will become public which could cancel the whole trust fund agreement thus invalidating the agreement.
Well, now, how does AH fit into all this? AH filed his lawsuit because he felt that the SEC was, basically, in bed with Wall St. and was not taking an aggressive enough approach against the bag guys. AH, by using the Bivens case, is hoping he can force the SEC up against the wall and move things along faster. He is forcing the SEC to act. AH is hoping to step in front of the bad guys and give the SEC a way out.
So, right now, the SEC is fighting on both fronts and are really between a rock and a hard place as the saying goes. The SEC is delaying all they can in AH case while, at the same time, trying to defeat the bad guys and their lawyers. If AH eventually wins his appeal, it will be at least 2013 at the earliest before they could go to trial with AH. This will give the SEC time to possibly defeat the bad guys and get this all settle.
On Wall St., they are very nasty and revengeful. To think that they are just going to roll over and give us our trust fund is really just dreaming.
The bad guys have very smart lawyers working for them and will try every trick, motion before the courts, delaying tactics, and political clout they can devise to help cancel the trusts.
All we can do right now is sit back and hope that AH can some how force the release of the trust funds.........
Remember AH saying that, when he expected the release of the funds soon only to have another obstacle thrown in the way.......... well now you know who and why the hold-up........
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