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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2013 5:52:39 GMT -5
My gut feels like a mini circus from hell is still rollin thru it ..... scary clowns all over the place !! ;D I love it. ;D Mike
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Post by marbearcat on Jul 18, 2013 7:31:22 GMT -5
My gut feels like a mini circus from hell is still rollin thru it ..... scary clowns all over the place !! ;D I love it. ;D Mike I can picture Urban C., Ron C., Mel, Edwards, West, Martin, Frizzell and others exiting a colorfully painted smart-for-2 clown car. =^ .". ^=
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 19, 2013 6:48:33 GMT -5
sammyhagar DIAMOND JEDI Post by sammyhagar on 17 hours ago
I think it's easy to see the pieces falling together nicely now...
1) May 2013: No more Bivens case – prevents any litigation regarding a CMKX Trust
2) June 2013: New Horizons Holdings, Inc – more disappearance of "CMKX/CMKM" reference
3) October 2013: New $100 bill – representing the transition from old (fiat) to new (asset-backed)
4) October 2013: Case against old management trial – prevents any litigation against old team and current team (about past management) and hopefully collect assets – possibly unlocking the F&Ps
5) December 2013: Basel III completion – all banks becoming accountable and secured for safe investing and savings
6) February 2014: Wells-Fargo case settlement (hopefully) – opens the door for trading again and majorly squeezing the shorts
Should be fun! - sammy
hermannmaier0 DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD I hope so. But, it is basel 3 "implementation" that starts in 2013. Complete implementation to Basel 3 capital requirements is 2019. And these banks can still risk going under with proprietary trading, derivatives, counterparty related losses,... until Glass Steagal or Volker Rule are put in place. FDIC limits would be safe, but above and beyond that it could be like Cyprus where accounts above insured limits take considerable haircuts.
nada999999 DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Reply #4 posted 5 hours ago Post by nada999999 on 5 hours ago
No: 4 and 6 are void because the focus of the STING is to bring regulatory action and not make it crumble by exposing the massive fraud. An out of court settlement will suffice. "Got to handle it with kids gloves."
AIMHO
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 20, 2013 0:58:22 GMT -5
By: joesixpack333 18 Jul 2013, 08:39 PM CDT Msg. 1188254 of 1188468 Something gotta happen soon.. - - - - - - - - - - - - - www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=282650 Full article: www.miraclesandinspiration.com/news_at-the-precipice-of-a-brave-new-world.html By: joesixpack333 19 Jul 2013, 07:51 PM CDT Msg. 1188416 of 1188468 (Reply to 1188394 by elvis-is-here) elvis.. I liked this tiny part.. sort of confirms what Jay has always said.. our WHOLE atmosphere is being reconditioned and all countries ARE realigning.. - - - - - - - - - - - - - "Do not underestimate what we are now seeing. It is nothing short of miraculous. This crazy, insane world of seven billion diverse people is coming together. Co-operating like never before. Aligning like never before. Becoming one like never before."
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 24, 2013 8:15:03 GMT -5
Angel thinks this is going on.....
By: Angel_Terrace 24 Jul 2013, 08:14 AM CDT Msg. 1189072 of 1189074
Wells Fargo settlement discussion is not panning out as hoped. Settlement will be considerably less than SK and Tyler expected.
The sins of Tyler have come back to haunt CMKX. New creditors coming out of the woodworks. Tyler borrowed money and did not disclose all the creditors to the shareholders. Say goodbye to a large amount of the Wells Fargo settlement money.
More to follow ....................
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 10, 2013 13:33:36 GMT -5
dizardos thinks he knows?
yesterday at 4:34pm Mad Money said:
Diz, A few questions...
1. Are you in the camp along with BHollenegg that we are waiting/dealing on/with processing issues?
a. If yes, what is being processed? Our packets? Or do the processing issues relate to some other event (not directly CMKX) that must take place before our payment can take place?
b. If no, what is a simple answer of where we stand other than "waiting"?
2. Do you believe we "won" as AH has stated and if so do you believe payment will take place in 2013?
dizardos 1) It is my understanding that since the 19th of July, 2013 all Trust Agreement stipulations have been met except one. I believe the last remaining stipulation to be the release of the Fines & Penalties money before the other larger distributions take place. This event amongst others likely initiated the recent wave of positivity. As such I certainly consider the information provided by Robert Hollenegg and Harv to be correct, but as far as I am concerned (unfortunately) anything can happen until money is in hand (and even then it is not truly safe without personal precautions).
a) I am not an expert on the processing issues and I admit that I keep some distance from CMKX nowadays for my personal well being, but I would assume these processing issues are first of all in regards to the Fines & Penalties monies which the government owes to us and I would suspect it refers mostly to the money being cleared, so that it can be distributed. Key parties in London recently indicated that the US government does not have the money to pay all the various WGS, GCR and Private Placement parties, so it would not surprise me if this affects CMKX too. It does not mean it will not be paid out. It does however mean that the government will print large amounts of fiat currency to pay all parties. As such many parties will at least partially be paid in fiat currency and not fully asset backed currency from what I understand.
2) I believe we have won when all bona fide shareholders receive their rightful distribution and the money stays in the accounts of the shareholders for three days without being stolen by any miscreants. In all honesty it is difficult to say whether the payment takes place in 2013. I certainly hope so, but I also notice that the opponents still have significant power (even though it has waned a bit). Much is still contingent upon miscreants upholding their part of the bargain and miscreants would not be miscreants if they systematically upheld their part of the bargain. So generally it is the safe and easy answer to state that things likely will take longer than expected. It is also what all shareholders have seen from the past track record. However CMKX will never be successful if it was not for those individuals who work behind the scenes day and night to make it all work out for CMKX shareholders. It is easy to go ´short´ on one´s belief regarding the expectations of when it will happen, but without those courageous, knowledgeable men and women who see opportunities right now to make it happen instead of always ´tomorrow´ we would not have the opportunity we have now. The success of CMKX depends on those who do have the confidence and courage to make work of their belief in CMKX. As such I am sure there are individuals who believe they would know better than Hodges when it is supposed to happen, but a pessimistic mentality will not generate anything constructive, which is to say: lead to victory.
I hope the above is of some use. Harv knows a lot more about the specifics that surround CMKX, especially at this time. He might be able to provide you with more insight into the current situation. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
More recently some have indicated that CMKX could be paid right now, but that parties within CMKX prefer to wait until the financial system is in place as that is supposed to be imminent. This did not come from a trivial party, but as I have not verified it on other fronts I would consider this a rumour only and nothing more than that. This does however line up with the statement from a highly reputable source that CMKX will be paid a few days before the GCR takes place.
Either way it is all contingent on how events unfold.
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Post by marbearcat on Aug 10, 2013 17:59:38 GMT -5
Yes we know you have one of the 3 winning tickets for the 400 million dollar lottery but we feel you shouldn't be paid until the world's financial situation is safer.
We're sure you understand.
Thank you for playing.
I. Fleecem - Lottery Commissioner
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 20, 2013 8:56:48 GMT -5
yesterday at 5:10am howardhughs said: potrush,I understand your position and I understands SK's position.It is very difficult to question and discuss both without seeming to be disrespectful or ungreatful.As you know this is what SK has said:
"Perry:
"Hodges has never shown me any evidence and never will – even the plaintiffs have never seen a shred of proof. I flew to California at great expense and got nothing except the promise of imminent payout of F&P between $3.50 and $4.00/share, and a two-tiered offering of $5 - $8/share depending on which “deal” a shareholder chooses. At $10/share our largest shareholder would become the 2nd wealthiest person on the planet, and the most liquid by far! No way…….
"Certainly if Hodges were to provide REAL PROOF of a trust (he cannot) then I would gladly help any way possible to get shareholders paid. I would love to see all CMKM shareholders get rich. However, the continual promise of great and imminent wealth is totally preposterous and will never happen. This stuff is damaging to many shareholders, and needs to stop. I am the guy that fields the phone calls and e-mails from hurting shareholders expecting to get rich any day now – sad."
Steve K
21 hours ago portrush said:
HH,
I am aware Steve has said this. In fact, I knew several months prior to it becoming public on the boards. I went to see Steve at my great expense when he was in Alabama. It was shortly after his visit to Al's offices and we discussed the subject over lunch--which if memory serves me correctly, Steve graciously paid for. He asked me to keep it confidential which I have for nearly a year(?) but as he has made it public, I suppose there's no foul in my commenting. I will share with you the same view I shared with him that day.
Steve was appointed by the group in Tyler to head the company only a few months prior to that visit. Already a concern of several shareholders (rightly or wrongly) the Tyler group never offered any kind of information about Steve. A resume was never presented to shareholders. Many rumors tied him to someone working for a diamond company elsewhere. Some posted about a car wash system supply company--but no one knew anything of his background. That would include Al Hodges.
At this time Al had been a stockholder for several years, had been involved with his "project" for quite some time and as you'll recall, was involved in litigation at that time as well. So while he graciously welcomed Steve's visit, in walked a stranger for all intents and purposes. He may have had the title at the time, but he didn't have the length of history or understanding of our past--by his own admission--nor was any detail known of him. Hence his visit, to seek what understanding he could. All Al could have known was that Steve was the appointed choice by the company--and that the company remained revoked, had no capital, no assets, nor had the group of shareholders on Fishing4Diamonds board uncovered any significant assets from the former insiders to claw back. Some would call it a shell, and to others--a company struggling for viability.
Just the same, a mere acquaintance at best isn't worthy of entrusting anything of confidential note at that time. I think most reasoned people would agree. You might hire an attorney to create will or Trust for your family, but you're not telling him how much money is in your bank account on the first visit--right? I think if anyone one else were in a similar situation, we might have responded the same way. Guarded? Perhaps. Forthcoming? Perhaps not. Congenial just the same and willing to take the time to respect his effort to come. Remember, Hodges efforts were of his own volition--he wasn't working for the company.
So I don't hold that story as any significant indication of anything in particular, to be honest. At the time of our lunch Steve was more inquisitive as opposed to entrenched in any position. Maybe he was just being polite. Admittedly, its hard to wrap one's head around. Suffice to say, if a sting, then most of what we've read over the years could likely be smoke and mirrors and nothing more. If such, I would add; if Al holds proof to a Trust--why would he need Steve's help in particular? In many ways, Steve makes similar claims towards restoring value but they too are squarely predicated on being provided windfall money from a lawsuit with an uncertain result. I've always wondered...if the WF suit is "all that" why would Tyler have exhausted its efforts and interest in going after Glenn and company first?
Here's where I net out, fwiw; If Al Hodges was completely wrong, not one person has lost one cent more as a result of his efforts. Only he, his family and the plaintiffs lost anything of value. If Al is correct, regardless of my ability/inability to comprehend the process--I will be better off as a result. If Steve Kirkpatrick can manage to win the WF lawsuit and purchase another company with potential of producing tens of millions of dollars in profits--true liquidity--beyond $200+ million he says it takes to pay stockholders back, then I might see my original investment back in a decade or so. I see no benefit in denigrating either man or his efforts and hold the rights to demand accountability and transparency from just one--the place where I invested my hard-earned capital.
Respectfully,
pr
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 9:49:13 GMT -5
yesterday at 5:10am howardhughs said:potrush,I understand your position and I understands SK's position.It is very difficult to question and discuss both without seeming to be disrespectful or ungreatful.As you know this is what SK has said: "Perry: "Hodges has never shown me any evidence and never will – even the plaintiffs have never seen a shred of proof. I flew to California at great expense and got nothing except the promise of imminent payout of F&P between $3.50 and $4.00/share, and a two-tiered offering of $5 - $8/share depending on which “deal” a shareholder chooses. At $10/share our largest shareholder would become the 2nd wealthiest person on the planet, and the most liquid by far! No way……. "Certainly if Hodges were to provide REAL PROOF of a trust (he cannot) then I would gladly help any way possible to get shareholders paid. I would love to see all CMKM shareholders get rich. However, the continual promise of great and imminent wealth is totally preposterous and will never happen. This stuff is damaging to many shareholders, and needs to stop. I am the guy that fields the phone calls and e-mails from hurting shareholders expecting to get rich any day now – sad." Steve K 21 hours ago portrush said:HH, I am aware Steve has said this. In fact, I knew several months prior to it becoming public on the boards. I went to see Steve at my great expense when he was in Alabama. It was shortly after his visit to Al's offices and we discussed the subject over lunch--which if memory serves me correctly, Steve graciously paid for. He asked me to keep it confidential which I have for nearly a year(?) but as he has made it public, I suppose there's no foul in my commenting. I will share with you the same view I shared with him that day. Steve was appointed by the group in Tyler to head the company only a few months prior to that visit. Already a concern of several shareholders (rightly or wrongly) the Tyler group never offered any kind of information about Steve. A resume was never presented to shareholders. Many rumors tied him to someone working for a diamond company elsewhere. Some posted about a car wash system supply company--but no one knew anything of his background. That would include Al Hodges. At this time Al had been a stockholder for several years, had been involved with his "project" for quite some time and as you'll recall, was involved in litigation at that time as well. So while he graciously welcomed Steve's visit, in walked a stranger for all intents and purposes. He may have had the title at the time, but he didn't have the length of history or understanding of our past--by his own admission--nor was any detail known of him. Hence his visit, to seek what understanding he could. All Al could have known was that Steve was the appointed choice by the company--and that the company remained revoked, had no capital, no assets, nor had the group of shareholders on Fishing4Diamonds board uncovered any significant assets from the former insiders to claw back. Some would call it a shell, and to others--a company struggling for viability. Just the same, a mere acquaintance at best isn't worthy of entrusting anything of confidential note at that time. I think most reasoned people would agree. You might hire an attorney to create will or Trust for your family, but you're not telling him how much money is in your bank account on the first visit--right? I think if anyone one else were in a similar situation, we might have responded the same way. Guarded? Perhaps. Forthcoming? Perhaps not. Congenial just the same and willing to take the time to respect his effort to come. Remember, Hodges efforts were of his own volition--he wasn't working for the company. So I don't hold that story as any significant indication of anything in particular, to be honest. At the time of our lunch Steve was more inquisitive as opposed to entrenched in any position. Maybe he was just being polite. Admittedly, its hard to wrap one's head around. Suffice to say, if a sting, then most of what we've read over the years could likely be smoke and mirrors and nothing more. If such, I would add; if Al holds proof to a Trust--why would he need Steve's help in particular? In many ways, Steve makes similar claims towards restoring value but they too are squarely predicated on being provided windfall money from a lawsuit with an uncertain result. I've always wondered...if the WF suit is "all that" why would Tyler have exhausted its efforts and interest in going after Glenn and company first? Here's where I net out, fwiw; If Al Hodges was completely wrong, not one person has lost one cent more as a result of his efforts. Only he, his family and the plaintiffs lost anything of value. If Al is correct, regardless of my ability/inability to comprehend the process--I will be better off as a result. If Steve Kirkpatrick can manage to win the WF lawsuit and purchase another company with potential of producing tens of millions of dollars in profits--true liquidity--beyond $200+ million he says it takes to pay stockholders back, then I might see my original investment back in a decade or so. I see no benefit in denigrating either man or his efforts and hold the rights to demand accountability and transparency from just one--the place where I invested my hard-earned capital. Respectfully, pr Portrush, Clearly I have been out of the loop. You stated "when he was in Alabama". Did he move from Alabama? Last I knew he lived near Tuscaloosa. Can you expand on your great expense to go see him. This was a good story worth reading. I'm sure several of us would be willing to send you something through paypal to offset your expense. Mike
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Post by gabbyhayes3 on Aug 20, 2013 9:51:40 GMT -5
P.R...Nice...neat...concise....thanks........
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Post by portrush on Aug 20, 2013 11:04:19 GMT -5
Birmingham, AL...is where we met. He bought lunch--reimbursement enough. I went for my own benefit. Nice guy!
pr
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2013 14:10:20 GMT -5
Birmingham, AL...is where we met. He bought lunch--reimbursement enough. I went for my own benefit. Nice guy! pr Fair enough. Your openness is appreciated. Mike
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 20, 2013 17:12:26 GMT -5
Scruffy thinks ... this could be it.
scruffy2 DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Post by scruffy2 on 4 hours ago
To my mind, the Supreme Court refusing to hear the Bivens suggests only two possibilities: 1. That they or those that control them do not want this information to be made public though the judicial process and that we will simply go away or be discredited. Or 2. The same but that we have been or will be properly compensated.
We want proof? What will we do with it? Who will act on the information, either dealing with the miscreants or seeing us getting paid, if the highest court in the land hasn't or won't respond?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 27, 2013 5:53:39 GMT -5
Aug 25, 2013 at 12:58pm ines said:
how on earth can a lawyer say we won.. and the lawsuit is not even done?
portrush Administrator Reply #366 posted Aug 25, 2013 at 4:00pm Are all legal agreements always public? Are all court proceedings always public? Is it possible a sealed agreement provided assurances not yet disclosed? pr
truerword DIAMOND MINER Post by truerword on Aug 25, 2013 at 4:21pm
No they arent, neither are they lied about in court docs either. In consideration of what happened in court..imo..very doubtful anything like that was born of it. If it was agreed to long ago..then why go to court in the first place?
BHollenegg DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Post by BHollenegg on 42 minutes ago
Truerword...from Attorney Hodges May 15, 2013 update..
"1. Let me start with a comment on the Bivens litigation. As has been widely disseminated by now, the United States Supreme Court denied our Petition for Certiorari. Many have asked, “What does this mean [for us shareholders]?” The specific legal effect is to fully and completely terminate the Bivens case. It means that for seven very courageous plaintiff shareholders, they are at no further risk. It means for all shareholders [putative class action members all] that the US Government is free from the threat of additional litigation, at least in the practical sense. It means as well, in my professional opinion, that the Supreme Court Justices are fully aware that the World Global Settlements (WGS), the Global Currency Reset (GCR), and all associated/reliant programs are in the final completion process; therefore, there being no need for the Court to grant Certiorari as a means of keeping the pressure on the politicians who have been so aggressive in delaying this.......
5. The bottom line is that you will be paid a great deal more than any have the right to expect [based on the amount of their investment]. In addition, you will receive a payment for the unconscionable length of payment delay. I cannot guarantee when this will happen; what I can tell you is that it will be very soon. What does that mean? – It means that the Global Currency Reset into the new international, fully transparent, all digital, 1024 bit encrypted banking system will happen as soon as it is possible. Your first payment will be delivered at approximately the same time. "
Anxiously waiting, BHollenegg
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Post by cmkx4ever on Aug 27, 2013 6:44:55 GMT -5
So what is going on is the latest cry's from the Paltalk rooms is that since The White Knights, the SEC, the DOJ, or who'ever tried to get our money which is due to us couldn't do it that GOD himself will do it since he won't let this go on, you got to be kidding right? He didn't spare the Christians being fed to the lions in Rome but he going to step in for CMKX. Their are certain people who are talking day in and day out and I guess they have to make themselves believe that this is really going happen, but it gets tiring hearing spin after spin or you could say excuse after excuse for these guru's who just won't let up, and also probably know that they got support eventhough they have been wrong for years and years. Even ACCA once said I can't do this anymonre, it's been years and I don't want to be hear for years to come so goodbye but just know that We Won. Sorry Acca we didn't win till I see it in my bank account.
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