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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 13, 2014 6:53:32 GMT -5
Duc & Latteplease... think
Duc n Altum said:
"PS- IMO, STEVE K. AND ALL THE PAST HEADS OF CMKM HAVE DONE THE SIMPLEST OF SERVICE WITH KEEPING THE CMKM NAME ALIVE ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL EMERSON KOCH RE-SURFACES ....... AND THEN HE CLAIMS US INTO THE 1010 COMPANY AFTER THE INSIDER COURT CASE RESULT ALLOWS THE SURFACE 2 CENTS A SHARE EXAMPLE TO BE PAID ON THE SURFACE AND TRANSFER ONLINE PAYS US THE BIGGER MONEY NAKED SHORT MONEY UNDER THE SURFACE...... THEN EMERSON BRIDGES US OVER TO THE 1010 AND I BELIEVE THAT WILL BRIDGE US OVER INTO THE CONGLOMERATE WHERE ALL THE SAID OIL, DIAMONDS AND URANIUM AND ALL ELSE IS WAITING FOR ALL OF US AT. "
latteplease DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Jan 10, 2014 at 9:28pm
This is so believable and practical, Duc.
How much progress has our company made over the years in becoming viable (on the surface)? Steve has promised we would go back to trading, for how long? Promised that we would raise funds for oil drilling, asked shareholders to suggest ideas for the company, investing in real estate, lol....and on and on. Obviously, he was only stalling and keeping us engaged, but for what? Is it because he wants to mess with our minds, or is he keeping the doors open until the time we go into the real thing? The conglomerate would seem like the real thing coming, at least in my mind that makes sense, because nothing in the past does. None of it. Not a thing.
In fact, it is difficult to even look at the company as anything but a stall tactic and I am believing it has been all for our good, because otherwise, what would be the point?
This Insider Case appears to be the vehicle to close out our story and give the public a cover story, and the journalists something to write about in the future, while keeping the truth of the largest rumored naked short in the history of the world, under wraps. I would imagine that is part of CMKM honoring their side of the deal, which is likely multi-faceted and we will likely never know all of those details, but we can certainly imagine...
You have to have a working imagination to see this thing in it's true light, or at least in it's partial light.
Thanks Duc. You paint the best picture I have seen so far.
IMO
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 15, 2014 10:50:24 GMT -5
Nrwtopennies... is wondering if perhaps this could be what's going on...
#1964180 newtopennies019 hours ago
PAYMENT
I was wondering if one of the hold ups for paying us might be the 'rights' issue. I doubt the money means that much to these broker/bankers other than a means to keep score. Shareholders have posted that after Maheu died the brokers fought to get their payments returned. How do we know that? Why would they give a crap if the Feds bale them out anyway? The real money is still in the ground, and that's why we are probably in the way with our RR'S. I'm thinking lately that may be a protracted fight over 'rights' and not money. The payments demanded were coupled with warnings of being exposed, so I think that is a non-issue. Just a thought.
The long term money is in the ground. It's development, extraction, processing, shipping ,refinement, etcetera. It takes the big boys to pull all this off, and we are on the sidelines collecting our royalties. I'll bet that just pisses these people off to no end. Just think, they couldn't grab the land for nothing, had to pay us to achieve cert pull ownership, and now the paper people have no long-term rights to the stock or minerals and the only way they can benefit is by owning shares of the conglomerate companies. Of course, that's never enough. Much better to short and never buy back, skip paying taxes on the transaction, grab the leases for nothing in a bankruptcy, and place themselves in our position of ownership with rights. I'd be pissed too. No wonder it's taking so long. I have no proof of any of this, just thinking out loud. That's what happens when the plan is top secret and the shareholders are treated like shi* on the bottom of someone's boot. Have a nice day. eom.......
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Jan 15, 2014 10:55:03 GMT -5
I still say Mr. PM has a hold on everything. IMO
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 27, 2014 7:41:35 GMT -5
Blasts from the Past.....#1969396 nanaimoboy15 hours ago (oldie) phxgold TDEM Flyover Pilot Level 2 Dec 4, 2006 at 8:23pm Quote If I may chime in. long threads.... so here are the links..... FWIWRoger Summers on Pedro, the shares weren't dumpedragingbull.com/forum/topic/990309John Martin and Roger Summers outline the stingragingbull.com/forum/topic/990177
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 4, 2014 4:02:01 GMT -5
teetime4-revival DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD
Who told Al there is a Trust Fund for the shareholders?
Post by teetime4-revival on Feb 27, 2014 at 10:27am
Maybe I missed something, but how did Al know to go after the Trust Fund....?
Does anyone know who actually hired Al or got Al on this case for the Trust Fund?
Harv, maybe you can shed some light on this question....?
Thanks if anybody can shed some light on this...
God bless.....
portrush Administrator Post by portrush on Feb 27, 2014 at 11:55am
You might start with Al's exact words to answer some of your questions;
But you'll recall he was a shareholder before then.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 11, 2014 14:48:16 GMT -5
What a Bummer...... lol lol
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 21, 2014 12:01:13 GMT -5
pedro2004 Minion 16 hours ago
Welcome back.
Here's something to think about....
Frizzell's strategy was to target UC and JE as bad. Therefore, CMKM was bad. And that's how he won the lawsuits.
What Frizzell didn't foresee was -- using this type of strategy gave Wells Fargo the pathway to say "we're both guilty, 50-50," and the WF lawsuit was dismissed.
Now that Wells Fargo has claimed they were "50-50 guilty," that allows shareholders to sue Wells Fargo (and CMKM) for the loss of their investment.
So...maybe I should sue Wells Fargo and CMKM for both being "guilty" in losing my investment. Yes, buy my shares at cost, and I'll dismiss the lawsuit.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 23, 2014 9:29:21 GMT -5
I think a better question would be WOULD UC & EK wait to proceed knowing a value ? The shareholder ownership is separate from operations & production. SOOOO
That makes me think back to the taskforce & Newcorp PR's.
The taskforce said to pull certs to become part of a distribution. WHAT HAPPENED RIGHT HERE The Newcorp said pay some money for 20% Everyone assumed the 20% was divided by 800b Everyone assumed "NEWCORP" was a future company to be named Everyone assumed that Bonafide shares were = A/S
To answer the yellow question above in the green way; Maybe the Newcorp is operational ? Maybe the Newcorp was planned & named much earlier Maybe the TOL certificates at end of certpull date are part of the 80% Maybe bonafide were a creation of the BOD for a new common class of shares Maybe the Newcorp PR was a way to include others with some payment.
The taskforce reported 634b +/- (I/S) yet the company still claims 800b A/S-HOW could this be ? The bonafide should be 800b if the company filed a treasury certificate at the taskforce end date ?
Just wondering what Howard might think about this "new co", if indeed he is referring to a new corporation, being not so new What if cmkx is really operating as a corporation and has been for awhile, just not as cmkx or cmkm, but as another entity executing the business plan After all doesn't most everyone agree that cmkx(m) was a sting operation putting on the air of a publicly help business operation, now that to me is a contradiction as a shareholder So you, we, bought what we thought was a operating company, not a sting, then for this whole mess to come full circle and truly satisfy the wishes and promises to and of the investors, us, one would have to believe there is an operating corporation that really isn't new but old and very active I think we own certs in a sting not a corporation, and those certs are valuable tickets to long running broadway show and many other shows that will entertain the sh for lifetimes So Howard, what you think, and as always thanks for your input Forgive me if this possibility has already been cleared up, I'm newbie here GG Port: Classes of shares are created by the BOD The BOD also creates the A/S Theses are all recorded in the State of residence under unique State Laws. I believe this is what happened in NV under Taskforce direction ( possibly interpleader order ) FROM THERE A company can Issue shares which creates a new, lower treasury balance A company can register shares with SEC so brokers can raise money for company; The dtcc through CEDE does this accounting. Unless additional shares are registered, the company receives no more money when all registered shares are sold. There can be more shares issued or not. There can be more shares authorized or not. There can be new classes created of not. Once shares are registered the SEC requires certain reporting and rules regarding Press Release. At the time of IPO a cusip # is issued that is changed when major events take place. Company had 3 over it's public life. - - - - SO to the above post. The taskforce called ALL market shares back into a new common share class called bonafide (certified). This caused certain problems, On 6/15/2006 there was a hard definition of the structure. 1- 800b A/S ( NV sos ) 2- 634b Issued & outstanding (622 unregistered-12b registered ) 3- 166b Treasury Balance 4- Company pubic shares revoked 5- Company Cusip # 125809103 Delisted The difference between 23.3b (DTCC & 12b ) is 5 tranches of share retirement. SEC & DTCC would not see this if Company bought those shares from market as unregistered TASKFORCE DISBANDS 1-634b ( taskforce ) new class bonafide ....Note the difference 12b between ( 1 & 2 ) 2-622b ( SEC ) unregistered 3-23.3b (DTCC) registered ....Note what the SEC saw 645.3 ( 2 + 3 ) 4-800b (Company/NV) Authorized 5-703.5b (Company ) issued ....Note what the Company saw 657.3 ( 3 + 1 ) ....Note the difference 12b between what SEC & Company saw ( proved 2 - 1 ) 6-Recall the 5 tranches of share retirement ( never settled on exact amount ) COMPANY MOVES TO TYLER TX
Company begins a new cert issuance (design, numbering, Signatures ) from the 166b treasury shares outside the new bonafide class. It is these shares I believe the "NEWCORP PR" was referring too 20% for $5m.
In 05, I was told that the real shares outstanding were MUCH lower than the advertised 650 B. The advent of an interleader with sufficient legal notice may reduce the true number to be two to three billion and those numbers may be high. JMO and based upon some d*mnnn solid DD. I think many sold shares before the stock was restricted further reducing the numbers. Don't know about that, BUT THINK we are in good shape. REAL GOOD SHAPE It appears to me the SEC agrees with old Company
I will never forget what Bud Burrell said years ago - that CMKX was partly an asset raid and he had a friend in common with Bob Maheu. cmkxunofficial.proboards.com/thread/5637 : Was there ever a Sting of any type?
CFRN Investigates: Excerpts from an Interview with Expert Mr. Bud Burrell
Dwayne: Good morning. Today is Thursday December the 1st, 2005. And once again we are conducting a special edition of CFRN Investigates as we continue to investigate the allegations of fraud on Wall Street via naked short selling and counterfeit shares. We have with us again today as our guest industry consultant and expert Mr. Bud Burrell…
…D: … is CMKX a sting operation?
....BB: ..I believe that there's a component of what was going on with CMKX…Casavant stumbled into a major asset find in Saskatchewan…I smelled an asset raid. Many of the so-called naked short bankruptcies were created with the specific intention of trying to strip out a valuable asset from the hands of parties who controlled it through these small public companies
…D: …can you comment on Robert Maheu's involvement?
....BB: ..I do not know Mr. Maheu personally, but he and I am one step away from mutual friends …He is a lifelong operator. I think his integrity is without question…I don't believe he's gone anywhere he wasn't sent. It's interesting. He entered the transaction after CITI-Group had one of their lawyers look into the company. I think they found substantial assets. I think what happened is that this panicked some of the major shorts in the stock. And there was too much seller boxing. That's a term used to describe when the stock trades at .0001. … But it trades enormous volume there… And the bottom line is seller boxing to me is a principle signal of an attempt by someone to cause the change in control of an asset.
…D: … It's also an easy way for somebody to double their money on every transaction.
....BB: ..That's correct. Mostly the people trying to do it, who aren't part of the market maker clearing- house system, are blocked from being allowed to participate.
…D: … Okay. What can an investor do to protect himself or herself?
....BB: ..Take delivery of your certificates…Demand delivery. …The certificate is what everybody understands. If you can't get the certificate, demand a written explanation from the broker… let him know that you're going to hold him liable for any failure to deliver that cert.
…D: … Now are you familiar with the Nevada Strike Force story and its connection to CMKX?
.....BB: ..I can't talk about what I'm involved. I provided information to the Strike Force.
cmkxunofficial.proboards.com/thread/5637
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Mar 23, 2014 9:43:48 GMT -5
And De-Beers was told to leave the area.. Casavant gave the market a little scare when they yelled out they found Diamonds. The market halted the trading on faults information.. Was it really faults..? I think that date was 06/15/06. I may be off a little. You see that was my B-Day. I remember jumping up and down watching the price jump up up up..
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Apr 11, 2014 5:59:40 GMT -5
An oldie...
#2005992 Nanaimogirl7 hours ago
Quotes of Allan Treffry, one of the plaintiffs in the Bivens Action: "Remember, this is an intel operation. AH is acting more as an Intel player than an attorney. I do not get all the answers; and even the ones I do get are often not straight answers." "I do believe Maheu was both a genius, he had the powers necessary behind him to pull it off and he wanted to hurt them. Considering just the known share structure, $3.8T is not inconceivable." "I believe the lawsuit is not the driving force for us to be paid. The forces behind the scenes are those that are the real powers driving this event." "But just for the record, I am confident that in spite of the fact Al will not show the plaintiffs the evidence, he definitely has whatever he needs to priove his case." "And since we know that the brokers will not willingly turn over hundreds of millions of dollars, thus the "unshareholders" list comes into play and another lawsuit." "There are still financial gains to be had here for the bad guys." "Discourage people away.. they disappear and do not push to get paid... the brokers keep their money." "Back in '06, there was a hearing attended by Stocklien that had the entire floor of the courthouse closed off and FBI agents stopping anyone from entering."
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Post by marbearcat on Apr 11, 2014 14:21:07 GMT -5
An oldie... #2005992 Nanaimogirl7 hours ago Quotes of Allan Treffry, one of the plaintiffs in the Bivens Action: "Remember, this is an intel operation. AH is acting more as an Intel player than an attorney. I do not get all the answers; and even the ones I do get are often not straight answers." "I do believe Maheu was both a genius, he had the powers necessary behind him to pull it off and he wanted to hurt them. Considering just the known share structure, $3.8T is not inconceivable." "I believe the lawsuit is not the driving force for us to be paid. The forces behind the scenes are those that are the real powers driving this event." "But just for the record, I am confident that in spite of the fact Al will not show the plaintiffs the evidence, he definitely has whatever he needs to priove his case." "And since we know that the brokers will not willingly turn over hundreds of millions of dollars, thus the "unshareholders" list comes into play and another lawsuit." "There are still financial gains to be had here for the bad guys." "Discourage people away.. they disappear and do not push to get paid... the brokers keep their money." "Back in '06, there was a hearing attended by Stocklien that had the entire floor of the courthouse closed off and FBI agents stopping anyone from entering." I went over to RB and read some replies to this. This question was in my mind as I read the Treff coments......................... #2006021 CMKX_BROKE 15 hours ago 1 2 3 4 5 Reply to #2005992 Gus, while Alan T. was saying all that good stuff how many shares were they all dumping on the masses?
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Post by marbearcat on Apr 11, 2014 14:32:18 GMT -5
This thread has an entertaining 2 pages, so far, of debate/arguments as to what was "dumped" during the Bivens pump. Legit suit or not, the Bivens was pumped. ragingbull.com/forum/topic/999079/page
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Post by MannyFin on Apr 11, 2014 16:33:04 GMT -5
This thread has an entertaining 2 pages, so far, of debate/arguments as to what was "dumped" during the Bivens pump. Legit suit or not, the Bivens was pumped. ragingbull.com/forum/topic/999079/pageYou say or they say dumped, well I am good friends with one of the plaintiffs and he never dumped a dimes worth!!!
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Post by marbearcat on Apr 11, 2014 16:36:59 GMT -5
This thread has an entertaining 2 pages, so far, of debate/arguments as to what was "dumped" during the Bivens pump. Legit suit or not, the Bivens was pumped. ragingbull.com/forum/topic/999079/pageYou say or they say dumped, well I am good friends with one of the plaintiffs and he never dumped a dimes worth!!! Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said they did. I asked if they did.
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Post by portrush on Apr 11, 2014 16:56:12 GMT -5
This thread has an entertaining 2 pages, so far, of debate/arguments as to what was "dumped" during the Bivens pump. Legit suit or not, the Bivens was pumped. ragingbull.com/forum/topic/999079/pageYou say or they say dumped, well I am good friends with one of the plaintiffs and he never dumped a dimes worth!!!
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