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Post by JoeRockss on Dec 14, 2014 12:43:16 GMT -5
Post by oldepro on 10 hours ago
I think we are dormant for one reason. John Edwards and/or other defendants (Nikolaj Vissokovsky) still hold shares and are using them to bargain. I believe New Corp is set up, waiting to be plugged in. Same with Transfer Online (CMKM RRwww.scribd.com/doc/48913930/DTC-spr-4-14-06) The SEC is in charge and is waiting on the DOJ to finish. Which is good for us, because I'm positive the SEC/DOJ do NOT want this to go to trial. I expect them all to plea. The wild card is Nikolaj Vissokovsky. 'It would take a week of work to get this rolling.' IF the New Corp is valid, the short is locked in a painful vice. A hint of valuation would terrify them. A dividend, any Victims Relief Fund payments, merger/mergers would kill them.
Which, if you take it a bit further, there is a decent chance IBM did meet in a room. And maybe he whipped out the " Stoecklein Trophy " ("diamond the size of a baseball"), tossed it in the air and said 'I have one for each of you, from the CMKM. You can leave it with your check, as you walk out the door.' Then, HE walked out the door.
Of course we know it's a cruel world and our dreams will probably end up just that. A dream. Then what? Dream on. When you run out of dreams, your heart will turn to stone. Memories die alone. Dreams are forever. CMKM redefines Occam's Razor.
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Post by gabbyhayes on Dec 14, 2014 13:29:44 GMT -5
Yep...always liked Oldpro.........IMNSHFO..............LOL
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 16, 2014 17:05:57 GMT -5
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Post by JoeRockss on Dec 20, 2014 8:30:31 GMT -5
Dec 18, 2014 at 11:51am seagull said: agree... but I don't think they ever intended to seat the board.. Maybe the Owner's Group is the BOD?? So far they have done what they want without sharing financials or much else. Often what info we go was discovered by shareholders. ..not Kevin, Frizzell, Lowden...and still no real info from Kirkpatrick esp. financials...still hidden because Frizzell doesn't want us to know what happened to all that money and property. ..nor why he deserves the 2-3 pieces of land, money, and billions of shares he GOT.
I know nothing we say will matter but why should we rally around Tyler? ... still Tyler.
Just pay what is rightfully ours!! All in my opinion
Dec 18, 2014 at 12:35pm portrush said: No, the OG (if it still exists) is not the BOD, nor associated with CMKM/NHHI according to the legal documents on file. While the financials have been held back from shareholders, the reason of the legal battle with WG is apparently legitimate cause. I'm fairly certain shareholders could sue the company to see the information, and I've heard rumbles of the same....but rallying around the company seems moot as well. Rally around what? As a single shareholder, most don't have a 'voice' large enough to be heard...forced hearing. It takes a majority and perhaps why the company's counsel is stated to be the largest shareholder until those shares are ultimately retired, as has been attributed to SK stating. Without a majority larger than the shares BF holds, the chances of forcing anything would likely be a very challenging and expensive task. Not impossible, but the benchmark is set: you need a group with more than 6 billion...or BF on your side.
IceCrush Mod Squad Dec 18, 2014 at 3:17pm
So the company is wrapped up and basically controlled by one shareholder?
Where does that leave the shareholder if the company decides to do whatever it wants to with any assets recovered? Will we have a voice?
Doesn't sound like a good deal to me.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 21, 2014 8:31:12 GMT -5
tonycmkx DIAMOND JEDI Post by tonycmkx on 4 hours ago
So upset I re read the whole thing again. Then all of a sudden a bell rings and I guess this Cottrell message is extremely positive.
Here's my take : Cottrell in an email telling Al Hodges ' THAT THIS AND THAT THAT' , but didn't Al know all those THATS ? Conclusion is this email is not for the shareholders but rather ( wild guess here ) a message that goes along with the TORTURE REPORT BY SENATE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE ! It's purpose is to pin down all these frauds committed by the Bush-Clinton cabals !
I am smiling and hopeful again !!!
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Post by JoeRockss on Dec 27, 2014 7:45:59 GMT -5
alrich DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Post by alrich on 11 hours ago
For: David A. Markowitz, Esq. Special Deputy Attorney General for Investor Protection
Attorney General of the State of New York 120 Broadway, 23rd Floor New York, NY 10001
Dear Ms. Brown:
Thank you for speaking with me earlier today and explaining that Mr. Markowitz was out for the rest of the day. We discussed briefly the nature of my request and you suggested that I forward the appropriate information to your attention via e-mail for Mr. Markowitz’s review on his return Monday, March 1, 2010. The information is as follows:
• I am a California trial attorney with some 40 years experience in State and Federal Court, as well as other jurisdictions.
• In January of this year I filed a Bivens Class Action against the five sitting SEC Commissions and five past SEC Commissioners seeking some 3.87 Trillion Dollars in damages for the taking of property by unconstitutionally withholding consent to distribute such sums as had previously been collected for the benefit of 50,000 + shareholders of CMKM Diamonds, Inc.; a conformed copy of the complaint is attached.
• The SEC Office of General Counsel has agreed to accept service on behalf of the sitting Commissioners; the other commissioners are currently being served.
• The weight of opinion is that this litigation will not be allowed to proceed into the discovery stages and/or to trial; there is mounting evidence that a distribution of funds to the shareholders is on the near horizon.
• I am advised that a portion of trust funds previously ear-marked for distribution to support the U.S. Domestic Settlement Fund Program currently in process were distributed to the United States Treasury facility in New York City on December 31, 2009 through and with the assistance of the New York Federal Reserve Bank in New York City.
• I am advised that these trust funds totaled 4.2 Trillion Dollars and were paid into the U.S. Treasury as and for taxes due to be paid from the trust(s) upon distribution of the trust assets.
• I am further advised that pursuant to Federal Banking Regulations, New York State Banking Regulations, and the Martin Act, inter alia, the transferred funds could be held without return for a maximum period of time under any circumstances for forty-five days or until midnight February 14, 2010.
• I am further advised that the U.S. Treasury has not remitted these funds, is still possessed of these funds and more importantly the trust(s) assets have not been distributed.
• The above circumstances, upon proof, demonstrate serious criminal violations of the statutes referred to above.
• I represent, at least as the Class Counsel, a number of New York residents who are beneficiaries of these trust(s) and are among the 50,000 + shareholders. I know many of these people on a personal basis in addition to being their counsel of record and can attest to their severe and continuing damage suffered and being suffered as a result of the non-distribution and non-receipt of the afore mentioned trust assets; some of them are also anxious to visit you in person and describe their continuing outrage.
Demand is hereby made that your office initiate, at the earliest possible time, an investigation into the criminal activities of those persons within your jurisdiction whom have contributed to and otherwise facilitated these criminal acts. I would be happy to discuss these facts with you at your early convenience. Please feel free to contact me directly at: (626) 564-9797. Thank you in advance for your prompt attention to this matter.
A. Clifton Hodges (CSBN 046803) HODGES AND ASSOCIATES 4 East Holly Street, Suite 202 Pasadena, CA 91103-3900
Tel: (626) 564-9797 Fax: (626) 564-9111 E-Mail: al@hodgesandassociates.com
teetime4-revival DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Post by teetime4-revival on 9 hours ago
The point is when I read this in 2010 I thought we were gonna be paid.....lol....
And I'm still here waiting, and waiting, and waiting.....
And it still don't make any sense to me.....
But I must believe Al knows something I don't know, and I hope he's right....when he said we have won!!!
ming DIAMOND JEDI MASTER **** Post by ming on about an hour ago
imo we won the right to be paid and the money will follow when the legal process by which those responsable for non-distribution has run its course and no possibilities for futher delay exist anymore...they will only say "yes" when their power to say "no" is totally exhausted...
they are more prepared to loose their fingers than to let go off the money...
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 7, 2015 15:17:15 GMT -5
#2105849 tuscan2012 2 hours ago
you cannot print something in Jan of 2011 that won't come true until years later... unless it is ALL SCRIPTED..
that being the case... the gang involved in this has no heart toward shareholders... just a plan..and they are sticking to it? but I wonder if they OVERSHOT the original PLAN and are on COAST at present having fun PRESSURING the worldly PLAN they executed years ago... the No One Escapes verbage could be the boyz in gear to do a number of EXPOSE' on many a High Echelon People.. wait... we are seeing that occur in Main Stream Media now and in past months... dang that TIC TOC
so.....shareholders mean zip while they play COVERT GAMES
IMO, Cottrell and Wanta will emerge in Happy Land all smiles.. ' did you know friends become enemies only to become silver friends again' coded line in the Jan 5 2011....
and since then who would I look around to figure that line would fit? who would you say that line would fit? we are at the cross road of that being Cottrell and Wanta... trust me.. I have watched and tried to fit that line in with many a worldly entity or peoples... but it brings me smack back to our little cmkm world of info throw our way over the years..
so, look around and wait or listen if you can still stand to listen to any of this crap they have shoved down our throat..
I do believe the monies are massive... that we shareholders walked naively into something way beyond what we would have been able to comprehend when we purchased if they told us what was going on.. (not that it could be said up front and personnal without sneaky coded statements and goofy storylines)
STING was and still is the thing, imo...
you don't yell what you are doing when you are creating traps to catch a thief... or bring many to justice..
you DO have means and ways, when you are smart enough to set Traps to Catch Thieves and Soundrels...to send messages and quips to shareholders..
you DO have ways to PLANT people who have a job to do to steer the shareholders here and there for years... knowing they are just a herd to contend with ...
oh yeah, and Maheu did say he would use unconventional means to communicate
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 12, 2015 8:03:40 GMT -5
dizardos DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Post by dizardos on 4 hours agoThe following might actually be the current leading position on this situation (as already brought over by other CMKX shareholders): www.veteranstoday.com/2015/01/11/another-thwarted-attempt-to-hijack-the-wanta-plan-and-access-the-wanta-fortune/It does not matter whether CMKX shareholders think the above is true, but certain key parties including those in London consider this the one truth. Initially this was not to be discussed, but considering that Wanta has gone public with it, it does not matter at this stage. I was informed of the above around 22 October 2014 (which explains my less fond stance of Cottrell around that date). The US Dollar Refunding Program was Wanta´s Plan, not Cottrell´s. It could indeed be the case that a minor dispute was blown out of proportion which lead to major hostilities between Wanta and Cottrell, but for the compensation indicated adequate people skills are not a luxury, but a basic requirement. I think sincere apologies would go a long way, but the attack by Christopher Story on Wanta certainly lacked all diplomacy and this might be the end result of keeping that diplomacy lacking course. Then again, at times even Bonney was not truly trusted by parties of importance, so it might be that no party trusts another party when this much money is at stake....and it would appear that Bonney is now back again in the centre. So it would be nice from a perspective of a CMKX shareholder if Cottrell could manage to regain his former status, as some associate CMKX with Cottrell and this current situation would not appear to be beneficial to CMKX. I thus hope it would get resolved in an amicable matter, but I personally think this Cottrell situation has deteriorated too much for any salvaging to be done with Wanta. Whilst I certainly do not know all the ins and outs, I believe it would be better for CMKX at this stage to be associated more with parties such as for example Bonney. Hodges did represent Bonney before on occasion, so the possibilities are certainly there. In a way it is all a feast for crows.....the ´blessings´ acquired by Wanta had as consequence the great suffering inflicted upon the people of the Soviet Union. Then again, the irony is that Russia in a way has returned stronger than before and now has a moral high ground that it never had before....all that without money....ironically. Its new control arises from respect and partnership, not fear. People (and nations) become immune to fear over time....something every empire will sooner or later find out. CMKX funds themselves do not depend particularly on Cottrell. Money was collected and stored at three banks distributed located in two nations. CMKX would not have trustees if there were no trusts. One cannot be trustee over nothing. In order to give another party control over an asset, one needs control over the asset first in order to give it to another (as when happens when a trustee is appointed by the grantor). CMKX did have problems with the release of the F&P funds in the past, but obviously the release of various Private Placements will generate taxes that would allow a legitimate US government to distribute a portion of those funds to CMKX shareholders.
dizardos DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Post by dizardos on 3 hours agoKeepinitreal, I cannot tell you when funds will be distributed to CMKX shareholders. If that was known, others more knowledgeable than I am would already have provided that information. I think CMKX has three hurdles that it must overcome in order for funds to be distributed to CMKX shareholders: 1) The F&P component. The PP, WGS and GCR should generate enough taxes to take care of this. 2) A legitimate banking platform wherein funds in transit cannot be hijacked and redirected by the Federal Reserve System. Russia will provide an alternative to the SWIFT payment system around June 2015 that is fully compatible with the current bank infrastructure. It is likely that initially the BRICS and their allies will make the transition to this system and that Western banks then also will run this new system alongside the SWIFT system in order to remain competitive. 3) Asset Backed Currency. It would be wonderful if Western countries would initiate a return to Asset Backed Currency, but considering the level of corruption it likely will be necessary for China (and Russia) to set the new standard after which all other nations will be forced to follow if they want to keep their currency relevant in an international context. The good news is that these three hurdles are closely related. Nevertheless I do not see how this will happen before June 2015 at the earliest....it could still potentially drag on for a while after that, but there are some indications that a derivatives collapse might be planned for May/June 2015 and if that happens an alternative will have to be implemented immediately. Undoubtedly politicians and bankers would attempt to use the derivatives collapse to implement draconian measures, so it could get worse before it gets better. A systematic crisis is the best opportunity to implement a superior and more equitable financial system or one that is even worse if it is up to select miscreants. To the best of my information six different groups were attempting to implement their new financial system, although I do not know how many of those remain standing and how many have come to an agreement/made concessions with other groups.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 16, 2015 11:42:05 GMT -5
scruffy2 DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Post by scruffy2 on about an hour ago Questions
Got a question… What does Wanta have to do with CMKX? I have been struggling with that one lately. But wait… Aren't the funds that Wanta is claiming as his actually surplus black ops funds from a project to bring down the Soviet Union? That does have a very familiar ring to it, doesn’t it? Doesn’t that project have Robert Maheu and Global Intelligence written all over it? Who else would run such a show?
How exactly were the trillions of dollars found for such a project? Are any proceeds from one black ops project not simply rolled into the next? What is Global Intelligence up to these days? Russia still? Can they afford to pay us such a sum and still run their show? Is Michael Cottrell another black ops casualty?
Questions…
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Post by e362 on Jan 16, 2015 21:15:59 GMT -5
scruffy2 DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Post by scruffy2 on about an hour ago Questions Got a question… What does Wanta have to do with CMKX? I have been struggling with that one lately. But wait… Aren't the funds that Wanta is claiming as his actually surplus black ops funds from a project to bring down the Soviet Union? That does have a very familiar ring to it, doesn’t it? Doesn’t that project have Robert Maheu and Global Intelligence written all over it? Who else would run such a show? How exactly were the trillions of dollars found for such a project? Are any proceeds from one black ops project not simply rolled into the next? What is Global Intelligence up to these days? Russia still? Can they afford to pay us such a sum and still run their show? Is Michael Cottrell another black ops casualty? Questions… 0
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 23, 2015 8:39:58 GMT -5
drillbit DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Post by drillbit on Jan 21, 2015 at 4:21pm
Ever wonder why the 1931 ban on naked shorting has not been enforced?
"The current Section 31 fee rate is $22.10 per million as posted on the SEC website. The Section 31 assessment on round turn transactions in security futures also will remain at $0.0042 per transaction."
Now when just one sub penny stock, CMKX, was traded in at least a trillion shares, use the above multiples and realize that the SEC and the DTCC make large money on those illegal transactions as well as thousands of other companies.
MONEY is why and screw the investor. SALUTE SEC, DTCC and DC. THANKS. We don't need new legislation IMO but just enforcement of those already on the books.
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Jan 23, 2015 9:54:40 GMT -5
drillbit DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Post by drillbit on Jan 21, 2015 at 4:21pmEver wonder why the 1931 ban on naked shorting has not been enforced?"The current Section 31 fee rate is $22.10 per million as posted on the SEC website. The Section 31 assessment on round turn transactions in security futures also will remain at $0.0042 per transaction." Now when just one sub penny stock, CMKX, was traded in at least a trillion shares, use the above multiples and realize that the SEC and the DTCC make large money on those illegal transactions as well as thousands of other companies. MONEY is why and screw the investor. SALUTE SEC, DTCC and DC. THANKS. We don't need new legislation IMO but just enforcement of those already on the books. www.stern.nyu.edu/cons/groups/content/documents/webasset/con_043128.pdf
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 27, 2015 8:12:42 GMT -5
19 hours ago IceCrush said: I find it interesting that Urban would have wanted to honour the Kevin West deal, especially since he is attributed to being such a scam artist and bad guy, when he just could have let all things fold up... and knowing how methodical Edwards was, so devious in his con, I could easily see how Urban would be taken in and end up the fall guy.
15 hours ago dyemenz said: Urban was the only legal signature accepted on those resolutions, forensics prove he alone signed, for hundreds of billions of unregistered shares Urban illegally created in names who weren't shareholders & re-issued to himself & Insiders.
Stock apparently Urban didn't think was worth keeping, nor Edwards.
Urban created his own fraud to dump shares he illegally controlled, during a cert pull he created.
"Case 2:12-cr-00484-LRH-VCF Document 48 Filed 06/30/14 Page 3 of 7
Abetted by Helen Bagley (CMKM’s complicit stock transfer agent) and a collusive attorney, most of those shares were fraudulently issued to the schemers without restrictive legends under the false pretense that those shares fell within the exemption carved out in Rule 144(k) and could be publicly offered and sold as free-trading shares. Casavant and his accomplices and nominees surreptitiously flooded the market with hundreds of billions of unregistered shares of CMKM stock. The conspirators realized more than sixty million dollars ($60,000,000) from the fraudulent public sale of hundreds of billions of unregistered shares of CMKM stock before the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) deregistered CMKM in October 2005.
After the SEC deregistered CMKM, several of the conspirators moved on to repeat the scheme (on smaller scales) using other corporate shells.
Casavant, on the other hand, was not ready to abandon the lucrative CMKM scheme. Casavant held or controlled billions of unregistered shares of CMKM stock which had been issued to straw purchasers. Notwithstanding that the SEC had deregistered CMKM and effectively barred the public sale of CMKM stock, Casavant (abetted by Bagley) set about selling those shares.
As part of their scheme, Casavant and his co-conspirators had fraudulently evaded filing registration statements and periodic reports with the SEC. In the absence of meaningful disclosures regarding its activities and shares, myths were cultivated and grew in internet chat rooms and message boards which eclipsed reality. Notwithstanding the fact that CMKM was a hollow shell with no viable business or mining operations, the myths and the demand for
Case 2:12-cr-00484-LRH-VCF Document 48 Filed 06/30/14 Page 3 of 7
CMKM stock endured. Beginning in late 2005, MARCO GLISSON stepped into this void and began publicly offering and selling CMKM stock over the internet. Although GLISSON was not a registered broker or dealer of securities, he acted as a dealer and engaged in the business of offering and selling CMKM stock. While GLISSON occasionally purchased relatively small numbers of CMKM shares over the internet from diverse individuals, GLISSON conspired with Casavant and Bagley to purchased billions of shares of CMKM stock controlled by Casavant as well as billions of shares of stock with Casavant and Bagley misappropriated from their rightful owner. GLISSON used the internet, the interstate wire, the mails, and other instruments of interstate commerce, to offer and sell CMKM stock which he had purchased from Casavant and others."
GLISSON’s sales of billions of unregistered shares of CMKM stock in 2006 and 2007 yielded gross-receipts of more than $1,700,000. While GLISSON paid hundreds of thousands
Case 2:12-cr-00484-LRH-VCF Document 48 Filed 06/30/14 Page 4 of 7
of dollars to Casavant and others from whom he purchased CMKM stock, GLISSON realized a substantial profit from the sale of CMKM stock.
As part of his plea agreement, defendant also agreed to cooperate in the investigation and prosecution of others.
III. RECOMMENDED DEPARTURE
As noted above, this defendant agreed to cooperate with the UNITED STATES as part of his plea agreement. Pursuant to that agreement, defendant met with government agents and attorneys and provided information regarding his dealings with Casavant, Bagley and others. Defendant also testified before a grand jury of this Court. Defendant provided material information to the government and was ready to testify against Casavant and Bagley at trial in 2:09-cr-132-JAD-GWF and potentially other actions.
Defendant’s cooperation with the UNITED STATES was cut short by the untimely deaths of both Casavant and Bagley. Bagley passed away in late 2013 following a lengthy illness. Casavant reportedly died unexpectedly in Canada earlier this year. Nonetheless, in recognition of defendant’s substantial assistance in the investigation of his co-conspirators, the UNITED STATES respectfully moves that the Court grant defendant a 2 Level downward departure pursuant to § 5K1.1 of the Sentencing Guidelines.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED this 30th day of June 2014. Daniel G. Bogden United States Attorney /s/ _ Timothy S. Vasquez Assistant United States Attorney
Edwards is methodical in his own illegal affairs & money. Urban managed his own illegal affairs with Michael Williams, Trustee of Urban's private UAJC Trust, once holding $8,000,000 paper trail proves he stole from shareholders in CMKM funds & others in his private CMKXtreme Trust, which once held more than the UAJC Trust, paper trail proves he stole from shareholders in CMKM funds. Urban didn't borrow it, he spent it.
There are 2 Million documents and a RICO trial regarding what Urban, as CEO & Director & owning the shell, allowed to happen to the detriment of his shareholders. Urban was offered the deal, he took it, made multi millions, he took it.
Ice can you explain to me how Urban legally made over $31 Million dollars from Nov 2002 - March 29, 2007 and it's 2015 now & we sit here with nothing? Then hundreds of thousands of dollars again, post revocation in his own scam.
The fall guy? The fall guy isn't the guy who walks away with or spends over $31 Million he can't legally explain. The fall guy is the guy left holding the empty bag, from the crime. That would be the CMKM Urban left behind & the shareholders he deserted. Not the guy who profited & left. How's that a punishment or being the fall guy?
It must have been simply torturous to have all that money deposited by checks Urban wrote himself & wired in Urban's own bank accounts.
No gun was put to Urban's head to buy a $3.5 Million home or take multi expensive vacations, or drop millions in the casinos, or use money belonging to his shareholders when ever he pleased for his lavish lifestyle & siphon from shareholders to stick into his own over $4 Million, personal racing hobby.
Yes, that must have been really rough.
IceCrush Mod Squad **** My comment still stands and my comment wasn't addressed.
Why would Urban have made sure that the Kevin West deal was honoured if he was such a bad guy? Does that mean Kevin West was in cahoots with Urban and he's a bad guy too?
As Ines says, there's too many holes in this cheese to determine who's the bad guy or the good guy, especially as information from you on Edwards shows how devious he was. He'd easily throw anyone under the bus and have a pre set plan of who'd take the fall, that being Urban. That's how those guys work.
jmho
10 hours ago dyemenz said: The answer is simple, Urban was Indicted for RICO, not Kevin West or Bill.
IceCrush Mod Squad 10 hours ago That's not an answer as to why Urban wanted the Kevin West deal honoured. But thanks any way.
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Jan 27, 2015 8:41:59 GMT -5
Yes, why did the Company go forward to today..?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 27, 2015 19:23:18 GMT -5
portrush Administrator Posts: 13,635 3 hours ago via mobile ines, rivertrader1000 and 1 more like this. Isn't it interesting that the two who could answer most of the questions, Urban and Helen, have "died."
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