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Post by vulcanized crawler on Apr 5, 2018 10:18:06 GMT -5
so send me my derivatives, in the form of .9999 silver or gold. dont want no schist dollar (aka reset devalued crapola).....gold and silver is money, everything else is debt
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Apr 12, 2018 9:51:15 GMT -5
KUDOS.... SATURN !!
saturn DIAMOND DIGGER VNS 10 April 2018 >>NEW! Possible Plea<< Apr 10, 2018 at 6:26pm RoughCut, portrush, and 8 more like this Post by saturn on Apr 10, 2018 at 6:26pm
Just got off the phone one half hour ago with Debra Waite. I can't believe she was nice enough to call me back.Probably the way I worded my call and waiting all these years.
She stated that it is very possible the Edward's team and him will accept the plea agreement handed out. Debra stated the government has been working patiently for about a year on these plea agreements to come up with some sort of solution to this case.I told her I was extremely upset with the government,SEC,DOJ, and everyone else involved in this case of stonewalling.We have been on the back burner for over eight years and counting. No one likes us and we were always honest shareholders just trying to make a buck, not lose our entire fortune to criminals.I then said the biggest problem I have with this case is no one stepped in along the way when it was clearly shown that billion of shares were being traded on wall street in a day. All the departments that handled trading and policing securities looked the other way. Never did anyone step in and shut things down until the damage was done and close to 50,000 shareholders were hurt. I thought it was also criminal what the justice system did to us in protecting the criminals by installing new laws in trading and forget us. I told her 70 million damages, ha good luck in trying to collect a dime from this guy if you can find the money. All these years drift by and we are going to come up empty handed. She conceded I was probably right and there where so many people involved. I then stated it has been so long and many people have passed away since hoping the case would be resolved. At this point in time she sounded like the case would be resolved but not too sure on any payout. So it looks like a long road for us all these years I told her with not too much to look forward to but all the money we lost with the government not protecting our rights as shareholders. I just hope I vented enough to her but I believe I gave her a message of we were cheated . I hope now we can see some sort of resolution with in the coming months or a press release of hope for us all.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Apr 13, 2018 9:18:11 GMT -5
15 hours ago roberto said: Well, I for one haven't flipped and right now I really just hope that payment is in fact imminent. But since we have a little break in the action, I wrote the following to express my viewpoint...and that is all it really is. And just for you I start it out with:
Trial? What trial? We had indictments handed out about 10 years ago. Several of these potential felons have passed away…some before ever appearing in court, others shortly after a plea deal. Edwards and two others remain…and Edwards is about to plea with time served. The other two(minor players) will also probably plea bargain and get a nice agreement (slap on the back of the hand) because who is going to testify against them? Edwards has no memory…supposedly, and he is the only one of the insiders left that can provide corroborating knowledge of what happened.
So lets recap…we have a judicial system that has rescheduled the start of the trial over 60 times since the indictments were issued, and a trial that was never started…not even for one day. Nobody has yet (to our knowledge) collected any of the “alleged” stolen funds or slapped anyone with a severe penalty that was imposed for maybe longer than 5 days due to the untimely death of the plea bargainer. Nothing legal has been accomplished through this court fiasco that would even justify the time and monies spent, much less provide a sliver of retribution and satisfaction for the shareholders. Why has this darn thing even existed?
It existed: (1) to provide cover for the naked short evildoers based on their willingness to pay to stay out of jail and have their illegal actions hidden from the public, (2) to document what supposedly happened to our company that was run by the corrupt corporate insiders (the new official story), and (3) to identify the prolonged and exhaustive effort made by our government to try to right the wrong and harm that was done to the shareholders.
And maybe, just maybe the actions by the judiciary and DOJ personnel discussed above were required by the good guys hidden in all this confusion, to have a place (pending court trial) to hold evidence of what really happened with the overhanging threat of exposure if the case ever went to trial. If so, then this “court case” (prolonged pending trial) could not be finalized and go away until payment to and thus satisfaction for the shareholders had occurred…thus its prolonged life. And by the way, the word finalized means that the case is formally closed.
All of this to say, when we get paid, I won’t give a rats a$$ which came first, the chicken or the egg…and I will never discussed this subject again because I really won’t care…once we get paid. Also, I may be totally out in left field with my thoughts. In all reality, I just hope ALL will quickly receive just compensation for the monies, time and effort spent these last 16 plus years
Thanks and the best to ALL…and all IMO.
roberto
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Apr 15, 2018 20:36:44 GMT -5
golden110done DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Drifting Into The Darkness 19 hours ago Treadstone, RoughCut, and 17 more like this Post by golden110done on 19 hours ago
As I was drifting off to sleep tonight, something that had not been clear to me before, became clear. (and it was due to the day's experiences)
We fought a Pirates game, although most of us were in no way Pirates.
We have tales of the "High Seas" which, not on the physical seas, were those of commerce and exchange.
I, probably more than many, have been "Hell Bent" on making the public see the True Story . . .Yet today, I learned.
The Public, if not deeply involved, will VERY QUICKLY misconstrue the story and deviate History, therefor cluttering the deep undercurrents that preserve History at it's Truest levels.
While I Desire the Public to have a deep and rich understanding of the corruption that has taken place . . .I, just today, understood why it is important that only we comprehend the True Nature of Our fight, and Our Glory.
This story, that is ours, is only to be passed down by Ourselves, and shared with those close to us, and to those who Exemplify the Meaning and Care of/for Life
I almost feel foolish, as I believed that most, if shown, could comprehend and understand it . . .Which they may be able to, for a few brief minutes, only to completely change it into something confusing and with very misconstrued connotations, within their own mind and belief structures.
Tonight, at this moment . . .I feel Completely Honored to be a part of History . . .A part of History that only a very few will ever hear of, especially from me, ever again.
We carry this within' our souls . . .I did not understand this until tonight . . .This was Our Journey, and we who are/were True to this, did a work that is beyond anything I ever knew was possible.
Thanks, and I apologize for not knowing this before today. golden1101 Sean
Fasttrackermo DIAMOND MINER Drifting Into The Darkness 19 hours ago Treadstone, seagull, and 2 more like this
Agreed Golden,
When communication gets completely ignored and people just happen to “die off”, it’s apparent that this is being covered up, with little tid bits for public consumption. The public will look at this as simply another scam on shareholders. The real truth will never see the light of day to Joe public.
Fast.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Apr 18, 2018 11:13:32 GMT -5
It is what it is..... It will be what it will be. Whichever, HOPEFULLY it will FINALLY be the end game. At this point in time, just end it already.
2 hours ago rockman said:
Shell 1- GCR/Dinar RV
Shell 2 - The insider trial
Shell 3 - The truth
From the way current events are evolving at a rapid pace it seems like we are either being set up for some sort of ROI payment or being shut down altogether with nothing. Whichever one it is - it's end-game time. IMO
woodrot DIAMOND JEDI *** You may be right Rockman .....
However, the real question is, will anyone from a trusted profession tell us which it is. After being fed this farce for 14-ish PLUS years .... I really believe I don't know who to trust.
Seeing might help in believing.... like an account w/ my name on it & a BOAT load of money in it.... Option 1: & most desired. OR, Option 2: we all quietly die off with no trusted source ever telling us its over.... I mean ... who here today wood believe'em?? !!! anyway.
As I am..... bewilderedly confused baffled and buffaloed ... all in the same sentence.
woodrot
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Post by e362 on Apr 18, 2018 11:17:39 GMT -5
It is what it is..... It will be what it will be. Whichever, HOPEFULLY it will FINALLY be the end game. At this point in time, just end it already. 2 hours ago rockman said:Shell 1- GCR/Dinar RV Shell 2 - The insider trial Shell 3 - The truth From the way current events are evolving at a rapid pace it seems like we are either being set up for some sort of ROI payment or being shut down altogether with nothing. Whichever one it is - it's end-game time. IMO
IMO, if this is the end game and there is no ROI, AH's needs to be somehow held accountable for his actions in this debacle.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 4, 2018 12:24:34 GMT -5
Ya think Steve thinks the same ??
excerpts..... 2013 Steve Kirkpatrick I was told from day one that a huge naked short existed with CMKM by previous management and our lawyers. I did not invent that fact – I just inherited the issue
I immediately had to start putting my own funds into the company to help it survive. Due to a settlement made by Frizzell and Lowden, we owed Roger Glenn $5,000 for court costs that if unpaid would have immediately become a $50,000 judgment against CMKM.
I was promised from day one by Lowden and Frizzell that there would be money forthcoming “very soon” that would allow me to get my funds back and get some pay. Frizzell and Shephard promised a settlement with Wells Fargo within 6 months
excerpts...... 2018 4profit "Emerson Koch's letter to Kevin West. Steve Kirkpatrick was never shown this letter bcuz he would not have taken the job, if he knew. With CMKM having $1 in the bank when he came in."
" Emerson Koch's letter to Kevin West dated October 31, 2010, Stating the deal was ending 2 years from the date of the letter"
"so they went with Steve instead. Whose net worth at the time was $1 million plus. CMKM has managed to financially ruin him also."
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Post by 2018 on May 4, 2018 14:36:37 GMT -5
Ya think Steve thinks the same ?? excerpts..... 2013 Steve Kirkpatrick I was told from day one that a huge naked short existed with CMKM by previous management and our lawyers. I did not invent that fact – I just inherited the issue I immediately had to start putting my own funds into the company to help it survive. Due to a settlement made by Frizzell and Lowden, we owed Roger Glenn $5,000 for court costs that if unpaid would have immediately become a $50,000 judgment against CMKM.I was promised from day one by Lowden and Frizzell that there would be money forthcoming “very soon” that would allow me to get my funds back and get some pay. Frizzell and Shephard promised a settlement with Wells Fargo within 6 months excerpts...... 2018 4profit"Emerson Koch's letter to Kevin West. Steve Kirkpatrick was never shown this letter bcuz he would not have taken the job, if he knew. With CMKM having $1 in the bank when he came in."
" Emerson Koch's letter to Kevin West dated October 31, 2010, Stating the deal was ending 2 years from the date of the letter"
"so they went with Steve instead. Whose net worth at the time was $1 million plus. CMKM has managed to financially ruin him also." who really can be trusted here at all ? The whole old tyler gang.. and the story they portrayed. Ok this is my angle here.. Remember Mark Faulk having an interview with Maheu? I would like to find it.. i think i have it printed.. however.. Mark faulk.. whole concern was to say .. how frizzell worked so hard.. meaning they are such good guys.. so he can put it in his book, Also, the whole Tyler gang.. agreed.. to put out this story about Maheu: 1. that he was the old guy who did not know what he was doing.. 2. Maheu said that he regretted getting into cmkx ? in that interview or that was also spin by tyler gang 3. Sk sayhing to me that Maheu regretted getting into cmkx and getting maniuplated by urban. 4. maheu was old. Ok If maheu hated getting into cmkx.. and felt manipulated by urban.. he could of left after being on BOD board of directors. but he did not. Maheu took a day off and in a day he was a Trustee for the task force. Ask Sk about this.. he cant summ up an answer. Ask anybody .. if maheu was so old and was manipulated .. why go to Task force. well opposite of what they all say.. it is stoecklein explaining that it was a different function that Maheu was working on in Bod or in Task force. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In addition to all that.. you will see.. that mark faulk, part of owners group.. threw bunch of softballs to maheu.. in the interview.. and i think even ridiculed the idea.. rumors.. that shareholders said how task force was collecting money for nss in cmkx. So that was ridiculed in the interview , then go and read.. what Frizzell says in his deposition to SEC. By Frizzell to SEC in deposition when task force started operating: There was discussion about payment at one time by the company and its my understanding that the company was going to make an allowance of 10 percent of any monies recovered from any third party settlements because of any naked short sales or whatever other income comes in that the task force was going to receive 10 percent of those funds. <<by frizzell to sec in deposition. so again.. the tyler gang lied.. mark faulk lied, even mahue lied. they said one thing to .. SEC in depositions.. and them they blamed us .. as crazy.. or spining stuff. for saying the same. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ do i trust there was a dollar only? no was there a dollar only after kevin and lunden and frizz and everybody else went through? maybe. maybe bc it was sk that said they were getting 3 salaries paid in the same time doing what? but by extention.. can i even trust everything sk says? no. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ one thing.. they all lied for Maheu. all of them. we dont know if .. task force got paid 10 % of the money collected, and for naked short.. it is what frizzell has talked about to sec. money for nss is also what stoecklein has talked about. we dont even know if frizzell got paid somehow.. even though he says he was not in agreement to get paid out of that 10%. so maybe he agreed to be paid in a different way. BY BILL FRIZZELL TO SEC : There was discussion about payment at one time by the company and its my understanding that the company was going to make an allowance of 10 percent of any monies recovered from any third party settlements because of any naked short sales or whatever other income comes in that the task force was going to receive 10 percent of those funds.
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Post by 2018 on May 4, 2018 14:52:59 GMT -5
This above is frizzel talking to sec. He knew that cert pull was to prove the nss and to extract money for nss.. he says so.
They had plans to pay the task force members 10% off the top of all the money collected..
This sec deposition happened rigth away at the start of the task force. Interview of mark faulk with Maheu was way later. So why was the whole tyler gang lying to protect Maheu?
they were all liers.. taunting and ridiculing shareholders .. for exactly the same thing.. that was actually going on. proving nss and collecting money.
Also.. Frizzell was part of task force. do we really believe.. that he was just collecting certs.. hiding the info on nss and never got any answers on what is going on? really? but he was there to know.. there is defined plan how the Task force members were going to get paid.. by having 10% off the top.. of all the money collected from nss.. ( read stoecklein and read frizell)
They had the whole thing in the bag.. but then lied to shareholders.. about maheu.
in talking with us... tyler gang spread the info how he was old.. used by urban.. he hated getting in cmkx.. but behind the doors.. with frizzell at task force.. he was there and very aware.. that maheu went from cmkx bod.. could have left.. but instead went to be trustee for cmkx task force to collect certs.. and this old man.. along with his personal lawyer stoecklein had a plan how he will get paid.. for doing that work.. well 10% of the top for all the money collected.
so .. just to call square a square.. they all lied to shareholders all the time. And especially about maaheu and what he was doing.. what exactly he did i dont know in regards results to collect money.. but certainly they did not paint the picture that he was doing.. what these despositions show.
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but what if... what if all the members of task force actually did get paid? maheu and stoecklein, then frizz. what if those around them also got paid.. like kevin? and all the other buddies of theirs.. just lining up to make money for the hush.. everybody would want to get paid for hush money.. keep the shareholders at bay.
you know.. first task force.. then all those that supposedly worked on certs.. and all the ones that kept pretences. surely kevin would not want to be slighted.. if Frizzell got paid for working on task force.. so in that case.. lets pay kevin.. he was the ceo after all and has to keep quiet.
who else lined up there? many many.. including mark faulk. free shares.. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
they all got tired quickly.. just a quick gig.. that is fitting. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ i think there could be something that frizz was looking for a .. guy outside his circle.. to take over.. which was sk.. to do the grunt work.
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Post by 2018 on May 9, 2018 13:54:46 GMT -5
playing ping pong with shareholders trust.. Hodges and SK
We are banging walls.. between those 2 opposing statements.. yes trust, no trust, but in both cases.. its just Words.. and not enough words or backup of any kind to transparency.
What they did manage to accomplish.. what was done Right, is to deny information/proof/documents to shareholders that supports either ones claims. deny deny deny
Just playing a horrible disturbing PING PONG with shareholders in every sense of the word..
Shareholders comment:
"Your post is so true, we as shareholders are caught between two absolutely ridiculous and totally contrasting scenarios. The company and AH. A good way to keep shareholders divided, disoriented and placid until they either all lose interest or die off."
Already accomplished that for years
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 14, 2018 20:16:20 GMT -5
Long but interesting !! yesterday at 7:15am gangusgreen said:You do realize that it isn't over till sentencing and according to the latest Buzz that will not be till 9/17 . The never ending story!! Gangus Duc N Altum 1MM Forum **The Whole Big Picture, IMO** 13 hours ago**The Whole Big Picture, IMO** THERE ARE 2 PARTS TO THIS CMKM INSIDER SITUATION. PART 1... IS THE PLEA DEAL SITUATION... WHICH THE PLEA DEAL SITUATION HAS TAKEN THE PLACE OF THE ACTUAL TRIAL..... AND PART 2.... IS THE SENTENCING HEARING...WITH THE RESITUATION SIDE FOR WE THE VICTIMS/SHAREHOLDERS.... AND AS I ACKNOWLEDGED BELOW IN THIS PAST POST. And respectfully, for Steve K to say the trial is done.... is completely wrong. PART ONE JUST HAPPENED. AND PART 2 IS THE SENTENCING/ RESTITUTION FOR THE SHAREHOLDERS...… as we can now see that the sentencing hearing is scheduled for Sept 17th, 2018.
Now before I get into the main points... I just want to re-hit on some past basic past history. There have been many shareholders that have said that the CMKM insider court case trial has nothing to do with us getting paid. Really???
Well lets look at some past interesting points. Some might not like Acca, but I tell you what.... one darn thing Acca said back in 2009 was very telling when compared to Al Hodge's Bivens court testimony. Before Acca left one night from pal talk, he finished off with this exact statement with such a serious tone in voice----> Acca: "Folks, if you have heard nothing else I said tonight, understand this. DO NOT WORRY HOW SMALL THE FIRST PAYMENT IS....JUST UNDERSTAND.....THAT THE FIRST PAYMENT.....NEEDS TO HAPPEN....THEN THE 2 OTHER TRUST FUNDS CAN THEN BE RELEASED." Now lets compare that to what Al Hodges' said in his Biven's court testimony--->Al Hodges: "Your Honor, the reason why I am suing the SEC, is because the government WAS SUPPOSED TO RELEASE THE FIRST PAYMENT.... AND ONCE THEY DID..... THEN THE TWO OTHER TRUST FUNDS COULD THEN BE RELEASED."Anyone notice a very basic similarity? THE FIRST PAYMENT "NEEDS TO HAPPEN" THEN THE 2 OTHER TRUST FUNDS COULD THEN BE RELEASED. And does anyone know why Al Hodges would be suing the SEC because the first payment was not released? In what form, matter, or reason would the SEC have any responsibility in releasing anything to the CMKM shareholder matter? Who is the SEC going after with anything in the CMKM relation? The SEC is the one going after the former insiders of CMKM.... in the obvious CMKM insider court case situation. So obviously through the CMKM insider court case EXCUSE or matter.....THE SEC CAN MAKE THE FIRST IMPORTANT PAYMENT....SO THEN THE 2 OTHER BIG TRUST FUNDS CAN THEN BE RELEASED.So the CMKM insider court case has nothing to do with us getting paid? Yeah Ok....TRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ROLE OUT THERE.... AND IT IS CALLED...."THE FIRST SMALL PAYMENT NEEDS TO BE RELEASED"..... SO THAT WAY... THE 2 OTHER TRUST FUNDS WITH THE BIG MONEY CAN THEN BE RELEASED. Oh but Duc, Al has never put any focus on telling us to pay attention to this Insider court case situation specifically. ----> So again.... "CMKM Insider court case situation has nothing to do with us getting paid?" Try this....IT HAS THE MOST IMPORTANT ROLE... WITH GETTING US PAID ….. WITH BEING THE FIRST SMALL PAYMENT....TO THEN ALLOW US TO GET PAID ON THE 2 BIGGER TRUSTS THAT AL HODGES' BIVENS WAS ABOUT.
So now, people may wonder...."Hey Duc, the surface picture shows that Edwards has died and if he were alive... then the court could of gotten $50 million out of him... but now there is only 3 minor people left with no money. So Duc.... where in the world could any money to the shareholders come from?" Check out what Al Hodges put out at the beginning of the Bivens on "THE SALE OF CLAIMS OF CMKM TO 2 CHINESE COMPANIES AND THAT THE SEC WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS TRANSACTION AND PUT THIS SALE OF CLAIMS INTO A FROZEN TRUST AND WAS TO BE RELEASED AT A LATER TIME------>So again, IF THE FIRST PAYMENT WERE SO IMPORTANT OF NEEDING TO HAPPEN.... WOULDN'T THE SEC NEED TO THEN HAVE AN EXCUSE OF HAVING REAL MONEY TO PAY THE VICTIMS/SHAREHOLDERS WHEN THIS IMPORTANT TIME WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN? Well, there is your sale of claims excuse to be the justifiable excuse in the sentencing/restitution hearing for the shareholders. And lets not forget whom is left amongst the 3 remaining insiders. "Ginger Gutierrez!" She was obviously Urban's Secretary.... and would a secretary have access to files of a company? And could Ginger Gutierrez be the surface picture excuse of she being the secretary that just so happened to of found a file of this said sale of claims that Al Hodges mentioned above? Again....THIS FIRST PAYMENT IS SO IMPORTANT.... AND OBVIOUSLY NEEDS TO HAPPEN FIRST BEFORE THE 2 BIG TRUST FUNDS THAT AL HODGES TALKED ABOUT IN HIS BIVENS COULD BE RELEASED. So as Debra Waite told Saturn as he posted on the millionaires proboard…. "yeah Edwards is out with he dying and it looks like you shareholders are not getting any money" … so the surface picture obviously is making it look like there is nothing left for we the shareholders.... but again.... if this FIRST PAYMENT IS SO IMPORTANT TO BE MADE....THEN THAT WOULD TRIGGER THE 2 OTHER TRUST FUNDS TO THEN BE RELEASED..... I really have in mind now... how interesting it is that Ginger Gutierrez...Urban's Secretary.... can look like the surface picture surprise where it might LOOK LIKE she found a file of this sale of claims and in that file would probably also have the bank account information of where this sale of claims money was parked in. And it could look natural with this surface picture script... that it is said Urban Casavant died and this sale of claims got lost through time... but of course.... if this were so important.... it would make sense as Al Hodges' said in the post above.... that the sale of claims with the 2 Chinese companies were put into a frozen trust by the SEC to then be released at a later time....FOR THE FIRST SMALL PAYMENT IN THE CMKM INSIDER COURT CASE CONCLUSION. And seriously.... think about this... what in the world would the SEC have jurisdiction of being able to be a part of a Canadian sale of claims between CMKM and 2 Chinese companies in Canada? Again... obvious THAT THE SEC WOULD BE ALLOWED TO HOLD THIS SALE OF CLAIMS INTO A FROZEN TRUST.... FOR THE FIRST SMALL PAYMENT. And why does a first small payment seem so smart and important? It is simple. If anyone googles "CMKM" they will obviously see Al Hodges' Biven lawsuit where it said we were owed $3.87 trillion. Well a great way to finalize this whole journey on the surface picture …. to make it look like we the shareholders did not get that large amount of money from the huge naked shorted crimes of the stock market.... HAVE THE SURFACE PUBLIC PICTURE OF THIS FINISHING OFF OF THE SECOND HALF OF THE INSIDER COURT SITUATION OF "THE SENTENCING HEARING/RESITUTION TO WE THE VICTIMS/SHAREHOLDERS..... LOOK LIKE A SALE FO CLAIMS WAS THE ONLY EXCUSE OF US GETTING PAID A COUPLE CENTS A SHARE.... AND NOT SOMETHING IN THE MANY DOLLARS RANGE WITH AL HODGES'S BIVENS' NUMBERS OF TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS. Keep in mind what the Nevada court system said early on with the start of the CMKM insider court case journey ----> [/font] So as we can see in this post above....THE NEVADA COURT SYSTEM WILL MAKE IT PUBLIC OF WHAT WE GET WHEN THE TIME COMES FOR RELEASE. DOES IT NOT MAKE SENSE FOR THE SURFACE PICTURE …. TO COUNTER AL HODGES' BIG MONEY OF BOB MAHEU'S COLLECTED MONEY IN TRUSTS.... FOR THERE TO BE A "FIRST SMALL PAYMENT" FOR THE SURFACE PICTURE TO SHOW THE WORLD THAT WE DID NOT GET MUCH OF ANYTHING COMPARED TO WHAT AL HODGES' BIVENS CLAIMED? And then once the first small payment goes out.... then obviously that would trigger the 2 big trust funds to then be released under the radar. And I also keep in mind that this CMKM insider court case situation has allowed an excuse of an "Interpleader" or "InterpleaderS" to protect the big money from anything that could try to take from it like outside lawsuits, bail-in corrupt laws, or whatever else. And I seriously believe we are waiting on an asset backed system where all money will go asset backed considering who corrupt and weak the global fiat financial system really is and I seriously welcome this 90 day window to the sentencing/restitution hearing on September 17th, 2018.... because it allows the time for this dying fiat financial system to have it's final moments where it can not sustain itself and obviously the world can go to an asset backed system and also indirectly related "Nesara" topic or as I personally classify it as...."The arrests of the political and economic elites" that favor this corrupt current system. Take out the trash and finish it off with taking out their corrupt fiat financial unbacked system where they were able to do their corrupt activities and screw the rest of the people.Folks.... whether we believe in the Insider Court case situation or not.... time will show what is when it finishes out with it's "Sentencing/Restitution hearing." Many at least know in some sort of subconscious way.... that it played a surface picture role and when it does come to conclusion it will most likely mean our end of this whole journey has concluded. Just think about this other part for a second. Lets say the insider court situation pays out 2 cents a share for the first small payment TO ALL BONA FIDE shareholders. Well Steve Kirkpatrick admitted in a webinar about 2 years ago that CMKM/NHHI the company has 100 billion shares on a certificate. Not 100 million but 100 Billion shares on a certificate. And Steve K said...."CMKM will only use the shares it needs and retire the rest. Well, what is CMKM's real main goal. Well actually it needs to stay active long enough so our CMKM shares can have a transfer agent like Transfer Online to remain our transfer agent. BUT THE MAIN END GOAL OR ROLE OF CMKM is to bring us into Emerson Koch's 1010 company as the second Press Release on July 4th, 2009 talked about.... where CMKM would need $4 million dollars or 80% of the $4 million dollars to do the Emerson 1010 agreement where the shareholders go into the 1010 company in the end after CMKM is officially done. Well...where in the world is the empty broke shell of CMKM going to get the $4 million dollars in the end of this to finally bring us into our final destination? Again, if all certified share holders get 2 cents a share for the first small payment.... then that means the CMKM cert would only need 200 million shares at 2 cents for CMKM to get it's $4 million dollars for the 1010 agreement. And remember, Steve K. said that CMKM will only use the shares it needs and retire the rest of the shares. So 200 million shares get used in this example of 2 cents a share.... and the rest of the 99,800,000,000 shares on the CMKM company cert... can be immediately retired like Steve K. said....so that way all of those shares do not get any of the big money in the 2 Al Hodges' trusts because if all of those shares were not retired.... then those amount of shares would put a massive dent into OUR price per share for the big payouts of the big trusts. CMKM main last role and or goal is to go into Emerson's 1010 company and yes, Steve K. has said years ago Emerson was out of the picture and no more. WELL... CMKM DID NOT HAVE THE $4 MILLION AS THE SURFACE PICTURE EXCUSE OF GOING INTO THE 1010 COMPANY as the Press release said needed to be on July 4, 2009. So my point is... everything can be taken care once this "Sentence/Restitution hearing happens." THE FIRST small surface picture PAYMENT CAN HAPPEN AND FINALLY TRIGGER THE 2 BIG TRUST FUNDS TO FINALLY BE RELEASED.... and Steve K. can finally get the money from the insider court case resolution because CMKM the company has a certificate of shares that would obviously get paid on the first small payment to then have the $4 million to bring us all into Emerson's 1010 company. And before the sentencing hearing date was announced.... I was on the phone with Misterhandsome and he flat out said...."there is so much that goes on in the court system with so many more people in the court system that have to do so much in preparation for the "sentencing hearing" and he said, "Duc, this sentencing hearing will most likely be scheduled 2 to 3 months from now because of all the behind the scenes court stuff that needs to happen for the final preparations for the sentencing hearing." And what do you know.... hours later... Xavier found the sentencing hearing date and it was September 17th, 2018.... "3 months later like Misterhandsome said and would know. SO KEEP IN MIND AS MOST PEOPLE MIGHT NOT KNOW OF THIS. Last week on Tuesday when Ginger G. tried to have the June 19th, 2018 court case extended with her emergency motion attempt.... the Judge responded a day later last Wednesday AND BASICALLY SAID...."IF WE GRANT YOU YOUR EXTENSION.... THE NEXT TIME WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE THIS TRIAL AGAIN.....WOULD BE 6 MONTHS FROM NOW....JUST TO HAVE THE NEXT TRIAL DATE. So folks, that would of been Dec 2018 just to wait for the trial to start. And then if it went to Plea deals like this one..... then we would of been in December 2018 and we would of had to wait 3 months for the sentence hearing to play out like now....which would of put us into March 2019. So folks, I count my blessings infinitely THAT FINALLY THE LONG CMKM LEGAL PLAY HAS FINALLY COME TO A PART WHERE THE TRIAL SIDE IS NOW BEHIND US.... AND NOW THE "SENTENCING/RESTITUTION HEARING" IS THE PERIOD AT THE END OF THE SENTENCE OF THIS LONG JOURNEY. I remember it said so many times on the proboards through all of these years where many shareholders have said..." this wait is crazy....I would be happy if they just told THE REAL WHEN of when this was really going to happen and even if it many years out...I would be happy enough in knowing and not wasting my time on the boards being dragged out." Well, we are finally at the end of the legal play where all we have to wait on is the "sentencing/restitution hearing" to finally happen and it is currently scheduled for September 17th, 2018..... 90 days away. We are not waiting for a trial to start.... but we are waiting for the resolution of the trial to end all of this and finally move us on to the "Finalization chapter." I do not know if people are really getting this understanding..... but thank God the trial side is done in disguise of the plea deals..... and now it is just the Sentencing hearing phase of finalization. And again, I believe fully that this 90 day window of time should allow finally for this fiat financial system to meet it's final end.... and a re-birth of a new global financial system will be born and all else indirectly related I believe will all parallel and with just waiting on a sentencing hearing to allow all said above in this post to happen for our situation.... that Sentencing/Restitution Hearing parallel the new system where all of our money will be safe from all things we know bad in this current fiat financial system. Anyway, I just wanted to shed light on connecting some simple points of understanding for those seeking the simplicity of how huge this phase is that we are in. This is truly amazing in my mind with all the tangibility that has progressed up to this point. And just keep in mind this point of progress. AL Hodges main last post was June 15th, 2017 where he mentioned Nesara. He then skipped his Thanksgiving and Christmas message.
And then on Feb 22, 2018 Al Hodges does a post saying, "Based upon my contacts, Payment is Imminent." And it seems like a lot of people got excited thinking that our money was going to just fall out of the sky and we would be paid in weeks to follow from his Feb 22, 2018 post? And some people got ticked and started to blame Al and saying negative things about him. Well we should know how huge this Insider court case resolution is "FOR THE FIRST SMALL PAYMENT TO BE RELEASED" which will then allow the 2 big trust funds to then be released ( paralleling the asset system coming in. ) So people thought Al's imminent was going to happen with out the said EVENTS needed for the payment?
Well again... Al's post was on Feb 22, 2018. And all of the sudden the #1 bad guy of the CMKM insider court situation John Edwards... it is publicly said that this character wanted to plea deal out because he did not believe he was going to make it to the trial on June 19th, 2018 because of a health issue. So he was going to plea deal out which would of brought his sentencing hearing to happen about 30 or so days later.... to finalize his plea deal.... but no... it was said that he then died 3 days later on April 13, 2018. So then all else follows with the last 3 defendants going through their processes and finally a couple days ago Steve Kirkpatrick acknowledges that the DOJ called him to tell him that all the remaining defendants have plead out. So as important for what this "Insider court case situation" can finally finalize.... Al Hodges said.... based upon his contacts, Payment is imminent" which means on the horizon, in the near future.... and this main pillar in the road of this CMKM journey called the Insider court case.... is now awaiting it's final stage of closure. Just hurry up asset backed system because if the court needs to... they could create an excuse... to extend the sentencing hearing if need be … just to align it where it can happen right around the time of the asset backed system comes into play. And I believe the good guys/Maheu team allowed this CMKM legal play to play out as it has right now where they allowed the CMKM legal play to play out as it has right now because I fully believe that they know when all is going to happen just like Jay Adobe called out Lehman Brothers collapse 6 months before that happened in 2008. This time.... I believe the CMKM higher team knows exactly when all is going to happen that needs to happen.... and to which has allowed our CMKM legal play to be only awaiting now for the sentencing hearing finalization.... to parallel the new system coming. If this legal play was resolved and done right now.... there would be no more interpleader to protect the big money so thank goodness for the wait to the resolution of the sentencing hearing finalization.
Anyway.... sorry this is long. I was working on this post much earlier.... and I hit a wrong button and all that I had done on that post got completely deleted.... so I had to redo this post.... so I hit some of the basic points of my erased post.... and just typed many basic points of what I could with a tired brain from doing this through the night. Now time for a quick nap and start the day. Take care and all the best. -Duc
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 3, 2018 8:47:06 GMT -5
Different thoughts...
2 hours ago redbeamgold said: if there is or can be a whittling down of the amount. this is what you see over time. posters stating large amounts and very small amounts and we respond. over the years the psychometric scientists can tweak the assessment and the psychology till the low amount sounds good or if given some choice you're influenced to pick the wrong one. we were told for the naked short side the dtcc owed a dollar a share. that fine/penalty is probably listed somewhere for someone to come to a $1 conclusion. for me that's the only concrete amount i can link to. so i start there. then i link that there must be some amount gotten by bob in vegas. then the big value of the land claims everybody feels we have. a short cover (sterling) and the mention of a legacy stock which i took as payments/growth over time. i dont know if trusts or fines get interest over the years or not but that's my story and i'm sticking to it.
canudigit DIAMOND MINER Those who predicted the Incoming Notification... 9 minutes ago
Are we to believe that we struck something on the claims that was so valuable? So sorry if that were true there we would be no way that you would sit on that and keep it a secret for 15 years. The best claim there is the star claim. That even is not that good. Go look at that companies PPS over the last 14 years? It’s a penny stock. So the best claim is trash. But we have the goods? Stop Spreading hearsay. We have nothing as now. We most likely were scammed and hosed. Yes I do believe we were NSS to death. Like most OTC stocks that are garbage. But I think Frizzell and Martin got money to shut up and hide the NSS. They were probably told stop or we will tie this up in court to protect the government theifs. So they get money to blow it up. IMO we are left holding the bag with nothing in it.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 9, 2018 17:51:46 GMT -5
7 hours ago amperstand said: JUST THINK FOR A MINUTE. Who are the people who have been attacked the most for trying to help?
Bob H, Harv, Traderboy, and even Mr. Hodges himself! (Many others, but these have been the main ones over time.) There is something wrong when those that are trying to help become the enemy and not the ones who are actually holding up the release of the funds!
In case anyone thinks there is not the dark side, the cabal or the deep state, one has no further to look than the current affairs of the FBI, DOJ and even Congress itself. Just follow the media and the opposition is easily explained. When up against these "evil" forces, it is no small matter that explains the extended delay in the release of the funds, IMO.
I have no doubt in my mind that the CMKX funds have in the past, been ready to be released. But because of the large amount of money, there are forces that either want the TRILLIONS of dollars for themselves or at least have their own ideas of how the $$$ should be spent - and not necessarily for the shareholders.
At any rate, our "enemies" are not the ones who are fellow shareholders on this board trying to share what they know - but those in power who have control of the release funds. Those are the powers Mr. Hodges is fighting against. They are the ones preventing justice being done and keeping us from our financial rewards for investing in CMKX.
Unfortunately, the "powers" are sources most can not even identify. Can anyone here name who prevents the payout of our funds? I know Mr. Hodges knows who they are. One thing for certain, Mr. Hodges is not the one holding the funds back, IMO. Yet he and others becomes the target of our frustrations when things don't go our individual way.
Too bad some like to vent on the wrong people when predictions don't materialize. It's time to encourage one another. It's time to work together. Only then will our voices and actions become unified and stronger in support of the common goal we all want to see. It is in that spirit that we need to trust one another. It maybe even comes down to the old saying, "If you don't have something positive to say, don't say it!"
I fully support Mr Hodges and his team. Tidbits of news and communications are released from time to time. I respect that and those that try to share. May the days ahead be more respectful and may our long awaited return "soon" materialize.
In the meantime we wait....
elmarco DIAMOND JEDI Hostile atmosphere 6 hours ago via mobile amperstand and flicker like this
I agree with you ! Al Hodges even told us who is delaying our money in the Dinar phone call chat the other night. I will List below a part of what he said in that interview. It points to one entity that has been our problem all along and that is the Government Agencies. In my opinion are the SEC/DOJ/DOD. Our focus should be on them for all the delays and not the messengers.
As the result of all of this the only thing the that government required at the end of the day was the right to determine when this money would be distributed to the shareholders and when the shareholders would be notified about what had been going on with their company. They then proceeded to promise the shareholders various payments over a number of years."
Moderator interruption: “Thirty seconds to wrap up please.”
AH ~ "Alright I will do it. They had a short period of time in which to make those payments to the shareholders, they refused to do so and strung them along for years; that was the basis of the lawsuit because we considered that a taking under the fifth amendment. Case went all the way to the Supreme Court and I’m happy to report that we are currently in the process of getting paid.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 21, 2018 8:19:49 GMT -5
Duc regarding the delay...... 15 hours ago Duc N Altum said:
Just as I believed would happen on September 17th, 2018... There were 2 separate Sentencing hearings on that day. At 9am to 9:30am was Ginger G's sentencing hearing and then at 9:30am to 10:00am was James Kinney's sentencing hearing.
So my first thought was, "ok, there are 2 separate sentencing hearings... AND IF ONE SENTENCING HEARING NEEDED TO BE EXTENDED... IF WE WERE NOT IN THE "ASSET BACKED SAFE NEW FINANCIAL SYSTEM" YET... THEN THEY MIGHT NEED TO EXTEND ONE OF THE 2 SENTENCING HEARINGS A COUPLE OF WEEKS INTO OCTOBER... TO GIVE THE INTERPLEADER OXYGEN TO STILL EXIST IN FULLY PROTECTING BOB MAHEU'S SAID HISTORIC COLLECTION OF MONEY. BECAUSE ONCE EVERYONE IS SENTENCED... THE INTERPLEADER EVAPORATES AND IF STILL IN THE FIAT SYSTEM... THE BAIL-IN LAWS BY THE CORRUPT POLITICIANS THAT PUT THOSE UNCONSTITUIONAL LAWS IN PLACE WITH THE DODD FRANK ACT IN 2010.... THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE ALL OF OUR MONEY RIGHT BACK AND WE WOULD BE LEFT WITH NOTHING. THANK GOD FOR BOB MAHEU AND TEAM REALIZING THE INFINITE POWERS OF WRAPPING OUR MONEY IN AN INTERPLEADER WITH USING A BOGUS COURT CASE... BECAUSE INTERPLEADERS CAN ONLY COME FROM THE U.S COURT SYSTEM.
So as I believed originally, I thought Ginger G would be the one whom the court would say that her sentencing hearing would be extended on Sept 17th for some bogus excuse … to then have her sentencing hearing give our INTERPLEADER continued Oxygen supply of protection. WELL... WE HAVE NOW BEEN TOLD BEFORE HAND AND NOT HAVING TO WAIT FOR SEPTEMBER 17TH TO FIND OUT HER SENTENCING HEARING WILL NEED TO BE EXTENDED.... WE FOUND OUT NOW... AND I AM ACTUALLY PLEASED BY IT. BECAUSE KEEP IN MIND ON THE SIDE OF FINANCIAL CRISISES …. WHEN DO THEY MOSTLY HAPPEN? "SEPTEMBER/OCTOBER." AND IF GINGER AND JAMES KINNEY WERE SENTENCED ON SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2018... AND OUR INTERPLEADER EVAPORATED.... AND THEN THE BIG FINANCIAL CRISIS HAPPENED IN THE SEPTEMBER/OCTOBER TIMEFRAME.... THEN WE COULD LOSE OUR MONEY IF STILL RELEASED AND OR PAID OUT TO US... ONCE WE WERE STILL IN THE FIAT CENTRAL BANKING CONTROLLED FINANCIAL SYSTEM. - Duc
Now I am posting PART of Bob Maheu's Press Release from November 4th, 2005... when he talked about we being in official Revocation and HIS TASKFORCE doing this for a distribution for the bona fide shareholders. But in this post there is a VERY SPECIFIC PART I WILL LET YOU KNOW OF MY FOCUS. -Duc ---->
Now what is my point with the post above? Bob Maheu said again--->
Basically in the simplest terms...BOB MAHEU BASICALLY SAID THAT REVOCATION/ CERT PULL WAS REALLY THE START OF OUR JOURNEY. So the simple connection as I have said so many times in the past from my opinion of belief of possibility... that CMKM might just end anniversary wise... around when it started. October 28th, 2005 was the start of revocation.... and take a look below on when Ginger G's sentencing hearing was extended to.... a little less than a week before our revocation BEGINNING/ Anniversary. Anyway, All in my opinion and hope. -Duc
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 14, 2018 9:52:24 GMT -5
golden110done DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Post by golden110done on 10 hours ago
I have always believed in this . . .I have been disillusioned at times, not comprehending why this moves so slow.
I now comprehend that we were but on small cog, in a much larger picture . . .It is helpful to see the big picture.
While I have always felt I had a grasp of the largest picture, it appears I did not. I was unaware of the human trafficking/pedophilia aspects of this fight.
I educated myself on many aspect of the financial systems, without understanding where the true money is generated . . .
Our current system is a fiction, at every turn . . .The real money is generated through leveraging real assets, much of which is human beings and enslavement through addiction of drug trafficking.
Understand the big picture and how swiftly it is acutely moving . . .No one will be allowed to be ignorant at the end of this, and I believe that this is a good thing.
We are doing God's work here
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