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Post by briwadd on Sept 19, 2013 12:55:58 GMT -5
Thanks Jboy.. for bringing this over....There ya have it again Folks !! This time From the hand of CEO Steve Kirkpatrick.....although not addressed to ALL shareholders, but addressed to only one. Seems to me SK could have taken some of the time he used to address JRSwails' email ... to post a quick note on the company website for ALL shareholders to read. Would have avoided a lot of drama. Unbelievable to me is......... HE will email Bob when he has time?? Really?? Dear lord....... !! Another "Rumor" down the drain......SINGLE ps..... Another Prime example exactly what I am talking about. Shame on Steve, what was he thinking causing all this unnecessary drama!! Really? Give me break! Do you actually expect the CEO to address new message board rumors on the companies website. Unbelievable!! Steve, as CEO, has made his position on the trust known. He doesn't believe it. His following up on the issue was a courtesy to the shareholders that inquired about the rumor.
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Post by skoondog on Sept 19, 2013 12:58:31 GMT -5
king10009 minutes ago 1 2 3 4 5 Since flyinj posted an e-mail from Steve K. I don't see any reason why I can't post his e-mail to me concerning Bob's comments. Just trying to keep it real folks. I would like to qualify this by stating I still appreciate what Bob has done and is continuing to do on behalf of the shareholders. My intent is to be transparent as to what is and or has transpired with what Bob has posted without being ambiguous. We deserve to whole story without embellishment. These are the facts as I know them at present. I'm on my way out of town this afternoon thru Monday and won't be able to respond to any questions posted to me. Best regards, JRSwails _______________________________________________ From: Steve Kirkpatrick Date: 9/19/2013 1:11:20 AM To: jswails@xxxxxxx Subject: RE: BHollenegg Jerry: Bob gave me the name of the shareholder who told him about the “trust”. This shareholder has a buddy that works at Wells Fargo. His buddy told him that he had seen something on a screen showing a $1.2T trust marked CMKX. The shareholder has never seen the info – its hearsay from a friend that he knows and does not believe would lie to him. Bob has not seen any evidence firsthand. The shareholder asked Bob not to discuss it or post anything about it. He is shocked that Bob has run wild with this and it has gone viral. The bank employee never said anything about payment – just that he had seen something on the bank’s computer. The shareholder would not provide the name of the bank employee – I gave him my number and asked him to ask the bank employee to call me. He said he would, but doubted that I would get a call. I plan to e-mail Bob about this when I have time. This fiasco has cost me several hours/day for three or four days now. I need to be working on funding – not more “payment soon” rumors. Thanks, Jerry. Steve K ragingbull.com/forum/topic/969496Well goes to show you the people we have hear, folks when are you going to stand up and face the music? Let the CMKX WORLD GO, GIVE STEVE THE TRUE RESPECT THAT HE DESERVES!!! CMKX IS DONE!!!! NEXT CHAPTER....NHHI Skoondog
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Sept 19, 2013 13:02:55 GMT -5
king10009 minutes ago 1 2 3 4 5 Since flyinj posted an e-mail from Steve K. I don't see any reason why I can't post his e-mail to me concerning Bob's comments. Just trying to keep it real folks. I would like to qualify this by stating I still appreciate what Bob has done and is continuing to do on behalf of the shareholders. My intent is to be transparent as to what is and or has transpired with what Bob has posted without being ambiguous. We deserve to whole story without embellishment. These are the facts as I know them at present. I'm on my way out of town this afternoon thru Monday and won't be able to respond to any questions posted to me. Best regards, JRSwails _______________________________________________ From: Steve Kirkpatrick Date: 9/19/2013 1:11:20 AM To: jswails@xxxxxxx Subject: RE: BHollenegg Jerry: Bob gave me the name of the shareholder who told him about the “trust”. This shareholder has a buddy that works at Wells Fargo. His buddy told him that he had seen something on a screen showing a $1.2T trust marked CMKX. The shareholder has never seen the info – its hearsay from a friend that he knows and does not believe would lie to him. Bob has not seen any evidence firsthand. The shareholder asked Bob not to discuss it or post anything about it. He is shocked that Bob has run wild with this and it has gone viral. The bank employee never said anything about payment – just that he had seen something on the bank’s computer. The shareholder would not provide the name of the bank employee – I gave him my number and asked him to ask the bank employee to call me. He said he would, but doubted that I would get a call. I plan to e-mail Bob about this when I have time. This fiasco has cost me several hours/day for three or four days now. I need to be working on funding – not more “payment soon” rumors. Thanks, Jerry. Steve K ragingbull.com/forum/topic/969496Well goes to show you the people we have hear, folks when are you going to stand up and face the music? Let the CMKX WORLD GO, GIVE STEVE THE TRUE RESPECT THAT HE DESERVES!!! CMKX IS DONE!!!! NEXT CHAPTER....NHHI Skoondog It's can't be without CMKX... What does your Share cert say...?
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Sept 19, 2013 13:05:50 GMT -5
Thanks Jboy.. for bringing this over....There ya have it again Folks !! This time From the hand of CEO Steve Kirkpatrick.....although not addressed to ALL shareholders, but addressed to only one. Seems to me SK could have taken some of the time he used to address JRSwails' email ... to post a quick note on the company website for ALL shareholders to read. Would have avoided a lot of drama. Unbelievable to me is......... HE will email Bob when he has time?? Really?? Dear lord....... !! Another "Rumor" down the drain......SINGLE ps..... Another Prime example exactly what I am talking about. Shame on Steve, what was he thinking causing all this unnecessary drama!! Really? Give me break! Do you actually expect the CEO to address new message board rumors on the companies website. Unbelievable!! Steve, as CEO, has made his position on the trust known. He doesn't believe it. His following up on the issue was a courtesy to the shareholders that inquired about the rumor. No!!! Shame on Steve for not getting the Lawyers involved and have them get to the bottom of who this person is and if they can see what this guy sees at Wells Fargo... After all they are working on this case together..
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Post by briwadd on Sept 19, 2013 13:11:04 GMT -5
Get the lawyers involved in what? There is nothing here! This is an unsubstantiated third hand rumor! As We have seen over the past 3 years, proof is extremely important when it comes to the legal process.
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Sept 19, 2013 13:12:52 GMT -5
Get the lawyers involved in what? There is nothing here! This is an unsubstantiated third hand rumor! As We have seen over the past 3 years, proof is extremely important when it comes to the legal process. One phone call is all they have to do.. Then Steve can say, we contacted WF and there is no 1.2T in a trust.. Easy as that.. Right..?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 19, 2013 13:13:53 GMT -5
Thanks Jboy.. for bringing this over....There ya have it again Folks !! This time From the hand of CEO Steve Kirkpatrick.....although not addressed to ALL shareholders, but addressed to only one. Seems to me SK could have taken some of the time he used to address JRSwails' email ... to post a quick note on the company website for ALL shareholders to read. Would have avoided a lot of drama. Unbelievable to me is......... HE will email Bob when he has time?? Really?? Dear lord....... !! Another "Rumor" down the drain......SINGLE ps..... Another Prime example exactly what I am talking about. Shame on Steve, what was he thinking causing all this unnecessary drama!! Really? Give me break! Do you actually expect the CEO to address new message board rumors on the companies website. Unbelievable!! Steve, as CEO, has made his position on the trust known. He doesn't believe it. His following up on the issue was a courtesy to the shareholders that inquired about the rumor. Well Bri.... he coulda nipped it in the bud 1:00 AM this morning if not sooner. And correct me if I am wrong... but wasn't it BH who inquired about the "rumor" and asked for help to try to confirm it or not?? ........on behalf of the shareholder s?? And wasn't it He (BH) and the rest of the shareholders who were waiting for a courtesy reply?? Anyhow ..... Whats done is done... and so much for Transparancy for ALL . Ya want info..... call or email SK.... but be prepared to have to and keep it from all other shareholders?? NICE HUH?? .... NOT. But I guess that's the way the cookie crumbles. SINGLE
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Post by briwadd on Sept 19, 2013 13:22:51 GMT -5
In the time it takes you to complain about Steve's lack of communication, you could have called him yourself. No one has ever communicated with the shareholders like Steve. In fact he hosts web conferences frequently. The problem is, the discussion is about the business not message board rumors. However, I have a feeling, he may address this madness at the next conference.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 19, 2013 13:33:46 GMT -5
In the time it takes you to complain about Steve's lack of communication, you could have called him yourself. No one has ever communicated with the shareholders like Steve. In fact he hosts web conferences frequently. The problem is, the discussion is about the business not message board rumors. However, I have a feeling, he may address this madness at the next conference. No Thanks.... As I have previously stated.... I have already been down that road regarding private communication with SK. After a few times of being informed.. "to not post", "For your eyes only" "Keep it to yourself" etc. ......... I bowed out as I did not want to be put in that uncomfortable position. I finally let him know.... that when I ask a question... any answer will be posted on the boards!! My loyalty is to the shareholders period. I will never intentionally keep any real information from them . They certainly deserve better than the way they have been treated.. SINGLE
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Post by marbearcat on Sept 19, 2013 13:45:29 GMT -5
It sure doesn't sound like this Wells person is an EXEC as stated. In fact, wasn't this info out years ago? I remember something almost identical to this. I certainly thought all the info that had been provided was a lot stronger than it now seems to be, especially considering the Big Announcement it got. Once again, led down the merry path. This is the "flipps" fiasco all over again. Sheesh! =^ .". ^=
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Post by skoondog on Sept 19, 2013 13:58:05 GMT -5
Well goes to show you the people we have hear, folks when are you going to stand up and face the music? Let the CMKX WORLD GO, GIVE STEVE THE TRUE RESPECT THAT HE DESERVES!!! CMKX IS DONE!!!! NEXT CHAPTER....NHHI Skoondog It's can't be without CMKX... What does your Share cert say...? 26,590,000 Next question? skoondog
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Post by arctan on Sept 19, 2013 14:05:27 GMT -5
Board Admins should tell or ask Bob to post exactly where he got the info. next time. This time he got the info. from a another shareholder but he claimed that he got that info. directly from an Exec at WFC which was not true.
1 more time then he should be banned.....from all boards....
That's my suggestion!
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Sept 19, 2013 14:10:17 GMT -5
It's can't be without CMKX... What does your Share cert say...? 26,590,000 Next question? skoondog You don't have to answer this one... You sure that's all it has to say...? BTW Didn't you have some proof to show me ..?
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Sept 19, 2013 14:18:52 GMT -5
In the time it takes you to complain about Steve's lack of communication, you could have called him yourself. No one has ever communicated with the shareholders like Steve. In fact he hosts web conferences frequently. The problem is, the discussion is about the business not message board rumors. However, I have a feeling, he may address this madness at the next conference. I talked to him many times. When GG was looking for his# who do you think post it..? He has my # it's not like he hasn't read the boards before and got back to me about what I wrote. No need for the web cast crap. Nothing comes from it. Communication of the same over and over stuff that he ends up noting onto the web site. I would think if he wanted to go a little extra he would have Notified OUR Lawyer working on the Wells Fargo case to have them get in touch with the working Lawyer of Wells Fargo. Then he would have some truth to the matter at hand. One more to you, Just like I said once before, it's hard to believe you own shares in CMKX.. You seem to come on here Praying for the worst.. JMHO
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Post by marbearcat on Sept 19, 2013 14:36:44 GMT -5
26,590,000 Next question? skoondog You don't have to answer this one... You sure that's all it has to say...? BTW Didn't you have some proof to show me ..? Mine is Rosie red & cream colored with "for this distribution only" on it. =^ .". ^=
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