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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 20, 2016 8:28:42 GMT -5
RECAP.....??
yesterday at 2:45am amperstand said: SEEMS LIKE a lot of discussion about what Mr. Gates has said. Somewhere along the line, I missed what it was that he allegedly released. Would it be possible for someone to repost his posting or provide a link to his comments? Thanks much.
Amperstand
seagull Mini Mod yesterday at 6:49am via mobile nada999999 and wembley like this
Gates didn't post anything. 6'4 said Gates told him that the money was found but we wouldn't get it. Briwadd spoke with Gates and got something different. We thought that Gates was not going to release his findings until after the court case and if he did, it would definitely be to those who paid.
I think that's right. But if you read the Buzzzz, you will get a better idea of what was said by some.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 20, 2016 16:40:47 GMT -5
this statement is totally flawed IMO - lets all l@@k at it together Something from our group FYI
Our group has gathered information for years, with well over ten thousand dollars spent personally to obtain the truth. Our information in our opinions proved the brokers settled.this is exactly what AH has said all along. They confirmed that AH was right on. As part of our investigation, including hiring our own FBI agent, we talked to Dave Van Gundin. Dave has a record of every trade that took place in cmkx and confirmed what Roger Summers posted, that is Ameritrade covered by buying shares ex clearing from NevWest through Jeff.Does it matter how it was done - maybe to some but not in the end to me. We are concerned with payment. As Al Hodges stated in court, Ameritrade stepped up to the plate.Again - exactly what AH has said all along. Thomas Gates has now confirmed this belief stating the brokers settled and paid a stiff fine.Again - exactly what AH has said all along. But also says we won't see that money.this is being stated as a fact - NOT HIS OPINION. If we are not paid it will be as a result of the massive government corruption who covered up the brokers settlement with full support of our management.Now stated as a opinion as he is using the word "IF" - this IMO contradicts the above he states as a fact. now my opinion (you can leave yours below) this whole statement stated is flawed. All he is stating is his opinion. NO FACTS. The opinion is based on information we had. They are not stating anything new - its just a rehash of everything we were told. It actually makes me feel better as AH has now been proved correct by a totally independent source. The results can now be given to others to use. We were all concerned that AH's information was flawed - he has now been confirmed. We all believed it was compartmented and since current management knows nothing this is also known. AH has stated all along that we have been fighting massive government corruption on this so again they are stating things we already knew. Everything we have been told and retold by AH is correct - therefore the rest about winning and getting paid should be correct also. I BELIEVE AH IS HERE TO MAKE SURE PAYMENT IS MADE. I have never wavered from this belief all we are waiting for is payment to be made whats your thoughts. Mike
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Jun 20, 2016 18:44:43 GMT -5
this statement is totally flawed IMO - lets all l@@k at it together Something from our group FYI
Our group has gathered information for years, with well over ten thousand dollars spent personally to obtain the truth. Our information in our opinions proved the brokers settled.this is exactly what AH has said all along. They confirmed that AH was right on. As part of our investigation, including hiring our own FBI agent, we talked to Dave Van Gundin. Dave has a record of every trade that took place in cmkx and confirmed what Roger Summers posted, that is Ameritrade covered by buying shares ex clearing from NevWest through Jeff.Does it matter how it was done - maybe to some but not in the end to me. We are concerned with payment. As Al Hodges stated in court, Ameritrade stepped up to the plate.Again - exactly what AH has said all along. Thomas Gates has now confirmed this belief stating the brokers settled and paid a stiff fine.Again - exactly what AH has said all along. But also says we won't see that money.this is being stated as a fact - NOT HIS OPINION. If we are not paid it will be as a result of the massive government corruption who covered up the brokers settlement with full support of our management.Now stated as a opinion as he is using the word "IF" - this IMO contradicts the above he states as a fact. now my opinion (you can leave yours below) this whole statement stated is flawed. All he is stating is his opinion. NO FACTS. The opinion is based on information we had. They are not stating anything new - its just a rehash of everything we were told. It actually makes me feel better as AH has now been proved correct by a totally independent source. The results can now be given to others to use. We were all concerned that AH's information was flawed - he has now been confirmed. We all believed it was compartmented and since current management knows nothing this is also known. AH has stated all along that we have been fighting massive government corruption on this so again they are stating things we already knew. Everything we have been told and retold by AH is correct - therefore the rest about winning and getting paid should be correct also. I BELIEVE AH IS HERE TO MAKE SURE PAYMENT IS MADE. I have never wavered from this belief all we are waiting for is payment to be made whats your thoughts. Mike Pay me..
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Jun 21, 2016 6:11:14 GMT -5
I would have to go with Briwadd over that 6'4" guy any day. Briwadd always did his own DD and he's been around a long time doing it. A++++++++++++++ For him.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 21, 2016 7:34:56 GMT -5
Well John, I going to choose to keep all options open UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE. I'll stick to my thoughts below. Many shareholders have been put in the same exact position numerous times throughout the years. Getting "double talk", "Their Talking out of both sides of the mouth" & some outright lies....... from those who we asked for answers. It is a well known fact that some can't even keep their stories straight. So, yes... I respect & thank both Briwadd & 6'4 for sharing, what was told or explained to them.
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Jun 21, 2016 7:41:08 GMT -5
Well John, I going to choose to keep all options open UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE. I'll stick to my thoughts below. Many shareholders have been put in the same exact position numerous times throughout the years. Getting "double talk", "Their Talking out of both sides of the mouth" & some outright lies....... from those who we asked for answers. It is a well known fact that some can't even keep their stories straight. So, yes... I respect & thank both Briwadd & 6'4 for sharing, what was told or explained to them. For my own information, how long has 6-4 been on the boards...? TIA
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 21, 2016 9:49:54 GMT -5
John, He has been a member, on the Millionaire Board, for appx 10 years....
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Jun 21, 2016 10:02:45 GMT -5
John, He has been a member, on the Millionaire Board, for appx 10 years.... Thank You.. Think I'll just leave it all the way it is and WAIT.. LOL
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 7, 2016 19:25:14 GMT -5
kibert79 DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD 7 hours ago kibert79 said: Is the Tom Gates investigation dead also? Does anybody know, or has anybody heard from him lately? TIA.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Apr 5, 2017 13:27:34 GMT -5
sportsman93306 DIAMOND JEDI MASTER 15 hours ago seagull likes this Post by sportsman93306 on 15 hours ago
No surprise, what Mr Gates found. Will give report after trial. Most of report is ready, but will wait till trial is over. Yes, I talked him about 3 -4 weeks back. With respect
Marlboroman DIAMOND JEDI *** Sportsman...Are you suggesting you know what Mr Gates has found ? Thanks. Marlboroman
sportsman93306 DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Post by sportsman93306 on 4 hours ago
Marlboroman I am in touch with Mr Gates , since he started working on this 'project'. I contributed for his expense. Over a period of time we developed mutual respect for each other. So, yes, he did share a lot with me. As per advise by Oldepro ( and I promised ), I won't disclose the content . Oldepro is aware that I am in regular touch with Mr Gates With respect
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 3, 2018 10:42:57 GMT -5
Once again.... the Subject, of the Tom Gates investigation & or Report, has re-surfaced for discussion millie DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Gates' report??? Jan 30, 2018 at 7:32pm via mobile IceCrush, TazGhost, and 3 more like this Post by millie on Jan 30, 2018 at 7:32pmWhatever happened to the Gates report? Doesn't anyone have respect for shareholders anymore? It's all talk and promises until it's time to produce results and then we never hear from them again. JMO sptrader DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Gates' report??? Jan 30, 2018 at 8:04pm gangusgreen, seagull, and 1 more like this The last I heard, Gates was waiting until after the trials were complete, before releasing the report. I wish he would at least tell us if he found evidence of the existance of a "Trust" for shareholders. glty pootsa DIAMOND JEDI MASTER ****It’s been posted by the guys who got the Gates train rolling that the trials must end prior to release. It was posted quite awhile ago so this isn’t some new revelation. There appears to be a correlation. Gates didn’t stiff us, and he has given some information to those who got him hired. Would I love information too because I put my money down? Sure. The problem with that is it will all over this board in a nano second. What’s in the report? I have no clue. It would be considerate to those who were given info from Gates to share with those of us who helped to hire him. I’m not holding my breath,but if one of those guys wants to message me I do solemnly swear to keep said information to myself. To say he scammed us isn’t the truth, as what was true when he initially completed his investigation(that is he will not release until the trial is over) remains true today. It will happen. How about holding the hyperbolic soothsayers on this board more accountable? What about the people who dangle carrots, and then disappear without any consequences,only to reappear when the rumor of the day takes shape? Those are the people causing the ebb and flow in this saga. sportsman93306 DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Gates' report??? Jan 30, 2018 at 11:55pm gangusgreen and JRSwails like this Post by sportsman93306 on Jan 30, 2018 at 11:55pm Gates will certainly give his report. After, the trial is over. He personally told me about 3-4 months back. With respect
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 6, 2018 9:09:05 GMT -5
20 hours ago smeagle said: I did not pay Gates, so I have nothing to complain about, however, why don't all those who did pay him get together and file a class action lawsuit against him to release his findings?
8 hours ago redcat3 said: I never saw, or heard of, a signed document setting forth the provisions of any agreement between Gates and any shareholders. In order to claim he reneged on completing his consideration under a contract, there has to be a contract that is written, signed and dated and it must describe specifically what his obligation was in exchange for payment received. Even if such a document existed, I'm sure it would contain a force majeure clause relieving him of any liability under the contract, and rendering it null and void, if he was unable to fulfill his consideration due to circumstances beyond his control, which he would most likely claim (i.e. being forced to sign an NDA).
I don't see how a lawsuit against Gates would be possible unless someone knows of such a written agreement.
Mrs. Redcat
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 7, 2018 14:18:40 GMT -5
Feb 3, 2018 at 2:49pm flyingj said:investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=138259358pootsa DIAMOND JEDI MASTER ****A general response regarding the rumor that Phx Gold or anyone else for that matter “caught” Ameritrade. I know just a little bit about market makers and the rules. It was common practice for all brokers to sell share markers to their clients, and I can tell you,at that time I owned a nice percentage of those shares. The brokers were allowed to pool these markers for a specified time period. When it was required through CEDE they would have to purchase those shares from the market place. In this case Ameritrade bought from a broker that was pushing boatloads on the market,Nevwest. They do not care where these shares come from,as long as they are cleared through the seller, a fellow broker and CEDE. That cert remained in street name,aka Ameritrade for their clients who had markers in their accounts. People call this selling short,but it’s not. They didn’t sell shares in hopes the security would go under,they wouldn’t jeopardize their billion dollar business for the amount of shares sold at the price of the security at that time. I know factually that some of my shares (markers) were included in the covered shares. You can call it naked shorting if you want,but the broker in question committed no crime and was never given any punishments. They carried the security to closing, the closing that is afforded brokers amongst themselves. Regardless of numbers matching, which was merely Ameritrade putting out to market that specific number of shares they needed, and a Nevwest client selling that exact number to fulfill the request. There is no proof at all with regards to selling short and no reason for that particular broker to gamble on this or any other fractional or sub,sub,sub penny stock. The remedy for not covering within the proper time period Is certainly not mega billions of dollars. Too often today, as we see everyday in juror decisions, there is no longer a beyond reasonable doubt thought process. There is though, a rush to judgement based upon the wildest of circumstantial evidence. Which is the case here. Having said the above, there is more to this than meets the eyes. There has been for some while a need to cancel shares sold from Helen Bagley and friends firms. If these shares are shares sold to Ameritrade or any other broker late to the table, shares from Deli dog, and a whole plethora of unknowing individuals then Ameritrade is on the hook to make the Shareholders whole,which would be to pay either the price of the security at SHs purchase point or to pay the higher amount of the share price going forward. In this situation the security never appreciated but went under. The end of trial should bring forward a cancellation of shares. The unknowing purchasers included a lot of decent people. I believe Hodges purchased some of these shares as well. I also believe there has been a battle going on behind the scenes to get these shares included in any making whole of the shareholder base. But what do I know? I don’t have a source,it’s circumstantial.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Feb 7, 2018 14:30:10 GMT -5
sportsman93306 DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Post by sportsman93306 on 15 hours ago
Guys pay attention. Pootsa just confirmed , what I was told way back. SOME SHARES WILL BE CANCELLED AFTER THE TRIAL IS OVER. Please refer my earlier posts. (Hence delay in payment. Payment only after cancellation of shares.) With respect
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Mar 2, 2018 9:18:23 GMT -5
20 hours ago flyingj said: Thank you very much for all your efforts Mr.Hodges. Would be nice if Mr Gates would also put out a update since myself and many others actually paid Mr Gates for his services.
Thank you once again Mr Hodges. Flyingj
bingo123 DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD ***** I am curious as to what Mr. Gates has to say too.
I hope he puts out his report while we are all still healthy enough to read it.
Or I hope we just get paid which would make the report meaningless for the most part.
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