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Post by Ed Jagacki on Feb 13, 2014 10:55:17 GMT -5
I feel a song coming on...
"So tired... tired of waitin'... tired of waitin' for Wu...
(hey, I have to entertain myself some kinda way...)
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Post by marbearcat on Feb 13, 2014 14:31:33 GMT -5
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Post by Brigantine on Mar 10, 2014 12:36:46 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2014 17:32:54 GMT -5
Brig, Still have your Miata? Fun little ride. Mike
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Post by Duc N Altum on Mar 10, 2014 22:04:39 GMT -5
Hey Brig, it has been a while and as always hope all is going great with you! Anyway, did a post on another board and figured you might appreciate this on Millionaires.----> ----------------------------- **Who is now said that controls the Fed Res?** Lets not forget a couple years ago that is was said and posted on the boards, and I also remember posting it somewhere on the boards as well that the Federal Reserve wound up under the control of the U.S Treasury but I do not have the time now to go looking for the post. At that same time the SEC also wound up under the U.S Treasury ad it was said also that 28 years prior to the SEC winding up under the U.S Treasury, finally has happened at this point a couple years ago, 28 years late. Anyway, it was said to of happened and when the Federal Reserve wound up under the U.S Treasury's control, so did the SEC. Nothing really important about the SEC hear, I just remember the SEC was also said to go under this exact day. Anyway, it has been said many times in this CMKM journey that we are in very good hands and the way it looks to my perception is that the Federal Reserve has to act out its part with the hopes of taking the blame and or fall when this said current system takes its fall and the new system will take its place in a new system, with the hopes that the Fed takes its blame and fall with the old. Anyway listen to this video at the minute mark of 1:55 of who is said to control the Federal Reserve-----> ------------------------------- So as was said above in this video was the Treasury branch known as the "Exchange Stabilization Fund."So here is a piece on the Exchange Stabilization Fund----> ________________________________________ Exchange Stabilization Fund www.treasury.gov/resource-center/international/ESF/Pages/esf-index.aspxIntroduction
The Exchange Stabilization Fund (ESF) consists of three types of assets: U.S. dollars, foreign currencies, and Special Drawing Rights (SDRs), which is an international reserve asset created by the International Monetary Fund. The financial statement of the ESF can be accessed at "Reports" or "Finances and Operations." The ESF can be used to purchase or sell foreign currencies, to hold U.S. foreign exchange and Special Drawing Rights (SDR) assets, and to provide financing to foreign governments. All operations of the ESF require the explicit authorization of the Secretary of the Treasury ("the Secretary"). The Secretary is responsible for the formulation and implementation of U.S. international monetary and financial policy, including exchange market intervention policy. The ESF helps the Secretary to carry out these responsibilities. By law, the Secretary has considerable discretion in the use of ESF resources. The legal basis of the ESF is the Gold Reserve Act of 1934. As amended in the late 1970s, the Act provides in part that "the Department of the Treasury has a stabilization fund …Consistent with the obligations of the Government in the International Monetary Fund (IMF) on orderly exchange arrangements and an orderly system of exchange rates, the Secretary …, with the approval of the President, may deal in gold, foreign exchange, and other instruments of credit and securities. _____________________________________________________ So while it still looks like the Fed is in control, my elementary perception and or guess or opinion would be that the Fed is under a higher control, obviously, but maybe the Fed has to be the one that carries all the blame and junk of the current system, before the new one comes in to where the hope will be the Treasury will be the only top dog on the block and for what its origination was supposed to be, for the People. Anyway, I figured many might find this topic of thought with appreciation with the understanding that the Fed is not the topic dog considering they were or are the huge reason why our economy has gone to the mess it currently has snowballed into up until today. As Al Hodges Said, we Won but look out for the changes that will take place and to be on the look out for when they do. Anyway, just sharing this piece of thought, take care and all the best. P.S- I would watch that whole video above from start to finish and really listen to what Rob Kirby says.... it is really a GREAT LISTEN about our financial system. millionaires.proboards.com/post/726505noahltl1.proboards.com/post/19971
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Mar 11, 2014 5:55:55 GMT -5
Hey Brig, it has been a while and as always hope all is going great with you! Anyway, did a post on another board and figured you might appreciate this on Millionaires.----> ----------------------------- **Who is now said that controls the Fed Res?** Lets not forget a couple years ago that is was said and posted on the boards, and I also remember posting it somewhere on the boards as well that the Federal Reserve wound up under the control of the U.S Treasury but I do not have the time now to go looking for the post. At that same time the SEC also wound up under the U.S Treasury ad it was said also that 28 years prior to the SEC winding up under the U.S Treasury, finally has happened at this point a couple years ago, 28 years late. Anyway, it was said to of happened and when the Federal Reserve wound up under the U.S Treasury's control, so did the SEC. Nothing really important about the SEC hear, I just remember the SEC was also said to go under this exact day. Anyway, it has been said many times in this CMKM journey that we are in very good hands and the way it looks to my perception is that the Federal Reserve has to act out its part with the hopes of taking the blame and or fall when this said current system takes its fall and the new system will take its place in a new system, with the hopes that the Fed takes its blame and fall with the old. Anyway listen to this video at the minute mark of 1:55 of who is said to control the Federal Reserve-----> ------------------------------- So as was said above in this video was the Treasury branch known as the "Exchange Stabilization Fund."So here is a piece on the Exchange Stabilization Fund----> ________________________________________ Exchange Stabilization Fund www.treasury.gov/resource-center/international/ESF/Pages/esf-index.aspxIntroduction
The Exchange Stabilization Fund (ESF) consists of three types of assets: U.S. dollars, foreign currencies, and Special Drawing Rights (SDRs), which is an international reserve asset created by the International Monetary Fund. The financial statement of the ESF can be accessed at "Reports" or "Finances and Operations." The ESF can be used to purchase or sell foreign currencies, to hold U.S. foreign exchange and Special Drawing Rights (SDR) assets, and to provide financing to foreign governments. All operations of the ESF require the explicit authorization of the Secretary of the Treasury ("the Secretary"). The Secretary is responsible for the formulation and implementation of U.S. international monetary and financial policy, including exchange market intervention policy. The ESF helps the Secretary to carry out these responsibilities. By law, the Secretary has considerable discretion in the use of ESF resources. The legal basis of the ESF is the Gold Reserve Act of 1934. As amended in the late 1970s, the Act provides in part that "the Department of the Treasury has a stabilization fund …Consistent with the obligations of the Government in the International Monetary Fund (IMF) on orderly exchange arrangements and an orderly system of exchange rates, the Secretary …, with the approval of the President, may deal in gold, foreign exchange, and other instruments of credit and securities. _____________________________________________________ So while it still looks like the Fed is in control, my elementary perception and or guess or opinion would be that the Fed is under a higher control, obviously, but maybe the Fed has to be the one that carries all the blame and junk of the current system, before the new one comes in to where the hope will be the Treasury will be the only top dog on the block and for what its origination was supposed to be, for the People. Anyway, I figured many might find this topic of thought with appreciation with the understanding that the Fed is not the topic dog considering they were or are the huge reason why our economy has gone to the mess it currently has snowballed into up until today. As Al Hodges Said, we Won but look out for the changes that will take place and to be on the look out for when they do. Anyway, just sharing this piece of thought, take care and all the best. P.S- I would watch that whole video above from start to finish and really listen to what Rob Kirby says.... it is really a GREAT LISTEN about our financial system. millionaires.proboards.com/post/726505noahltl1.proboards.com/post/19971 Very interesting find here.. Maybe it should have it's own thread.. Very nice indeed..
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Post by Duc N Altum on Mar 11, 2014 12:51:21 GMT -5
Duc N Altum DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Posts: 1,206 You know I love your posts! thanks! do you see us getting paid before the 1st of april? what are your thoughts? Thanks ski, glad you get something out of them. Do I see us getting paid before April 1st, my opinion? No. I am of the basic and or elementary belief that the whole messed up financial system or what has snowballed into the mess it is today... from the decade after decade, has to be dealt with. Just on the derivative side alone has the notional value of $1,400 Trillion dollars ( $1.4 Quadrillion ) and that is 25 times the size of the whole global economy ( in the negative) and no one wants to buy those garbage holdings. So the only thing that seems feasible if no one is going to buy this junk or get rid of it in a timely enough manner then "A FINANCIAL RESET" seems to be the only thing to accomplish this in a timely enough manner instead of having all the parties attached to all the bad derivative deals agreeing to x out all the bad derivative deals which would take forever. So it would seem that a reset button could be hit at any moment in time and to just be done with it. Well we the 50 thousand shareholders would love it and appreciate this and understand it enough but if they hit the so called "reset button" ( theory thought ) today the 300 million other people would most likely be in complete question of why a reset button was hit and constantly question it or whatever other negative reactions could be. But if a part 2 of the financial crisis of 2008 which did not finish out and did finish out in a phase 2 in the near future and if the whole nation felt the strong concern of financial stability in a deeper sense than 2008, then if a reset button were hit in that situation, it would seem to make sense that almost everyone would be grateful for a reset button into a new financial system would be very welcomed. But I doubt the hold off is the concern of the people with this example above. It really looks like the system is currently changing in a positive way with all the rules and regulations that are going into play up to this point and in the near future. So far we have ALL of the derivative rules of the Frank Dodd act done and completed as the former head of the CFTC said on October 24th, 2013 in an article that they all were completed. And then by the end of the year the Volcker Rule was voted on with the rules they wanted to structure it with and they now go into effect for the big banks on April 1st, 2014 which is great because it was the big banks that are the concern with the derivative bets as we witnessed JP Morgan's (said) $2 billion dollar bad bet a couple years ago. As my news station said at that time, " if the derivative title 7 rules and the Volcker rule were in place at that time of this bad $2 billion derivative bet, there would of been no way for JP Morgan Chase to of made this bet.... it would not of been allowed." So we as CMKM shareholders if we got this $6 dollars a share or whatever the price, if a large portion 50 thousand shareholders put their millions in the current banking system and there wasn't a Volcker Rule to prevent the big banks from using their clients money on the bank's bad bets, then the banks would have a field day with our money once they saw thee amount of money flowing through the system into their banks, to where they would have the green light to take the clients money because nothing is telling them right now on March 11th, 2014 that they can't. So this Volcker Rule makes sense to be huge insurance of the protection of our money and everyone's money. Also I am excited about the March 14th, Stock Borrow program going out the window which has been here since 1982 and all of the sudden they say that it is not a profitable thing to have, or whatever their excuse was? Yeah it would not be profitable especially if shorty and the market has lost their arse in covering naked shorted stocks of choice up to this point, yeah most likely is not profitable, lol. Anyway, I called a friend who used to work in the markets to hear what his opinion was on the stock borrow program going out the window and he was shocked and pleased to hear this and he said, " if there is no stock borrow program, then even legal shorting of shares would seem to be impossible." I thought that to be interesting if that is the case. Anyway, if he is correct on that statement then I find that to be an interesting event of taking out the "stock borrow program" and if that does not allow any naked shorting, then how interesting it is that all the average folks not invested into the markets or know anything about naked short selling.... we all can look like we were crazy and that there was no such thing as naked short selling because there was never "a rule change" that went into effect that said, "no more naked short selling" if this " Stock Borrow program" just took care of this whole thing of no more naked short selling. It has been said by the media in the past that 6 billion phantom shares go into the market on a daily basis and I believe that number is a joke and too small but if this "stock borrow program" does eliminate naked short selling then there would obviously be no more of this said "6 billion phantom shares going into the market on a daily basis," and that alone would have real shares keeping true value into companies throughout the markets and share prices should be going up after that point. Well I am looking to see, or hoping to see 13 days after March 14th, 2014.... to see thee effects because there is a 13 day window of processes that should have finished out so I am really looking at March 27th. But with all that is going on in this window of time, I am very pleased to see finally happening and I am of the belief that there has to be a part 2 crash of 2008 because back then Goldman Sachs and others alike were said to of made tons and tons on derivative bets and there were no regulations then on the derivatives, and no Volcker Rule and naked shorting was allowed which was said to take down Lehman so all of these things were a huge part of the 2008 financial crisis and these bad guys made a ton with their said "off balance sheets" and yet still received bailouts on the surface looking like they were hurting. And we know that Goldman wrote most of the bad mortgages to the point they knew that the mortgage industry was going to have to collapse because of all the mortgages they gave to people who they knew would never be able to afford to keep paying.... so they did derivative bets that the mortgage industry would collapse and yet they were also on the other side of the fence being a strong reason why the mortgage industry was going to collapse? Really? This is insane what happened then and with there being no derivative regulations, no Volcker Rule, and Naked short selling was allowed along with other things that assisted to the financial crisis of 2008...... if this crisis was still allowed to keep going on where they were able to do HUGE DERVATIVE BETS BELOW THE SURFACE and there weren't going to be any regulations then to prevent them from stopping the use of derivative bets...... it seemed that the pause button had to be hit at a certain point. And look at what the Federal Reserve did in early 2009 after the bubble burst with the 2008 financial crisis..... the Federal Reserve pushed down the interest rates below 3% to around 2.5 % which put the $1.4 Quadrillion dollar derivatives asleep. And then look back in hindsight. Frank Dodd/ Financial Reform bill came about. And hindsight now proves and shows that the banks hired lobbyists to fight to prevent derivative regulations from going in. And then this person by the name Al Hodges shows up on the scene threatening to leak out the CMKM story about $3.87 trillion was collected because of the stock market and alike got caught manipulating this CMKM company and that the money was not released to the shareholders yet because their "right to property" was not given to them. Hmmm? A public court room hearing proof if it were leaked out into a court room should of scared the death out of the market if $3.87 trillion was marked, caught and to be paid to this particular shareholder base. That could of busted open Pandora's Box of this so secretive moment called CMKM that has a hard time admitting anything from their cert pull efforts despite the E-Trade situation of their private plane flying down 5 thousand certificates in their first trip and a couple days later flying down 4 thousand more. And the other stories alike.... RIGHT NOTHING TO SEE HERE...SURE. I personally did not believe that Al Hodges would of been able to get $3.87 trillion released in a public court room and that said amount of money would catch attention from everywhere if it really did hit a public court trial. Instead it makes complete sense and especially in hindsight that the whole SEC thing of they having a right to contest the lawsuit and Al Hodges had to prove his points for it to be allowed or taken into a court trial setting. And back and forth it dragged out, Al Hodges' rebuttal then a couple months later the SEC had their rebuttal and back an forth and then it looked like the chance that Al might get approved for his Bivens reaching a court trial and leaking out the potential dark secrets of the CMKM money and then on July 10th, 2012 and all the way through July 26th, 2012.... the flood gates opened with 2 sets of derivative rules going into effect almost ever other day in that window of time. And then the derivative rules kept coming in and finally were completed. And I do not think people are really understanding thee importance of the derivatives being regulated. There have been many attempts with trying to get derivatives regulated in the past and the TRIES that always failed. And it was said that Bob Maheu has NEVER lost against a regulator agency ever when he has gone against them. And even Jay Adobe said so as well. And I am not saying in my opinion that Bob Maheu was here to do this CMKM said sting for only derivative regulations, but if He was able to prove the whole system was caught and could take down the whole system ......could Bob Maheu of had the infinite proof and leverage to say...." You all are going to clean up the naked shorting and the derivatives and what ever else he wanted cleaned up if his cert pull effort proved enough being caught in this whole said Sting? How would the average day person feel if the real truths about how corrupt the financial system really is or was if all of this were put out for all to know? Lets not forget, Bob Maheu showed up on January 31, 2005 as co-chairman of CMKM, and on Feb 28th, 2005 a couple weeks later, Bob Maheu shows up on 60 minutes showing how his efforts of giving a $100,000 cash to President Nixon's brother to which $7,000 of that money went into a putting green on the White House lawn which had shown that President Nixon knew of this money coming from the Hughes organization and this is what led to President Nixon forcing 5 FBI agents into the Watergate building to get this document out of the top democrats desk that Nixon was fearful of. So basically 60 minutes showed that this man Bob Maheu, with cause and effect, shown that he lead to Nixon's reaction of the break in with the Watergate scandal, so basically this man could be shown to of taken out a president which obviously Nixon did step down. And the other thing this had shown is that Bob Maheu made it on television at this point and how hard would it of been for he to go onto television again about the largest corruption ever caught with his cert pull effort and all that that uncovered. Most likely Bob Maheu would not of done that but I bet the threat was made known if the naked shorters did not pay up. So back to Al Hodges. As Bob Maheu said in the PR of November 4th, 2005 ----> "The Task Force has been given full and complete authority to use all means necessary, including bringing federal or state court legal action, to make certain all bona fide CMKM stockholders receive their proportionate allocation of the Entourage common stock and any other assets of CMKM available for distribution." So yes it looked like Al Hodges was going to use the court system to get us paid but once again, does anyone really believe that if $3.87 trillion were a result of a public court trial ..... that then that said $3.87 trillion would of gotten a ton of attention and most likely this caught and hidden manipulation would of been known by the masses. It makes complete sense that this was not what this was about. It looks completely like a threat/LEVERAGE..... fix what we want fixed (rules and regulations) or we will let out what YOU ( the bad guys ) all do not want out, and especially when you paid.... you admitted to doing wrong or why else would we have $3.87 trillion dollars in our possession? Anyway, to end the whole point on Al Hodges, when the Supreme Court threw out Al's bivens, a couple days later Al Hodges said he would communicate to the shareholders but he could not yet. Then the next day at 5pm eastern time..... the last HUGE RULES of the derivatives....THE CROSS BOARDER DERIVATIVE RULES were put out and then at 10pm eastern time Al Hodges put out his communication to us saying, "We won and no need for any further court action." Al's bivens could of been thrown out but if he were needed for any extra leverage he could of started a class-action lawsuit as a front for continued leverage if he wanted. But no, coincidentally the last of the derivative rules were put into effect with the Cross Boarder Derivative Rules and Al said there was no need for anything else. And also Dizardos said a couple months ago in a post, as I heard the exact same thing as well, EXACTLY... which confirms his statements were correct about the trip with Urban Casavant and Roger Glenn down south to gold mine trip, all that Roger Glenn and Urban were talking about were "derivatives." Hmmm? Really? Back in 2005? And coincidentally when Al started his bivens there was not one derivative rule done yet with the stalling Frank Dodd Financial Reform bill and by the very end of Al Hodges' bivens movement all the main derivative rules were finally completed? Really? No one sees this? And Al said "We won." But obviously if we were paid before April 1st before the Volcker Rule goes into effect for the big banks, if our money were in the banking system as said above, the banks could have field days with that money if there were no Volcker Rule to insure it's safety from the bankers manipulations. But as I believe, and my personal strong opinion, it only makes sense to my thought that the main rules and regulations are in or about to be in but I really see a CRASH AND THEN A RESET needs to happen to wipe out all of this debt that the Federal Reserve has created since its start and with the 6 main banks that make up the Federal Reserve also hold HUNDREDS OF TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS in DERIVATIVES THAT THEY CAN NOT GET RID OF so a financial reset would wipe the slate clean but a lot of economists that have said that there is a huge financial system crash coming...... that those that have tons of money might lose a lot of it in the crash because the rich or wealthy have it all spread out and can not protect it all. So if WE THE CMKM SHAREHOLDERS HAVE THE SAID WEALTH THAT HAS BEEN SAID FOR US....I WOULD NOT WANT IT PAID OUT NOW TO THEN LOSE IT ALL IN AN UP COMING MAJOR CRASH BEFORE THE RESET WOULD BRING US INTO A NEW AND SAFE SYSTEM FOR RELEASE. Anyway, that is my strong opinion and that is all.... and makes complete sense to me. Anyway, take care Ski and I too hope the next few months lead to what I believe is coming because China's economy and many others are about to burst and since currencies globally seem to be in such a related balance...... if other countries start to buckle, we will feel it here. And the 3% interest rate or below that interest rate number can not be held down if the economy gets better or worse.... and when that interest rate climbs above 3% and stays above for a while and keep growing, here wakes up the sleeping giant called the $1,400 Trillion derivatives and when that comes crashing down, a good ole reset button has to be hit before that giant touches down, which makes sense to my elementary enough thinking. Congress and Treasury ( not the Fed ) will want to hit the reset button before that touches down, in my belief. So come on crash, and lets see the interest rate go up and then we'll see how bad things really could be with the $1.4 Quadrillion derivatives coming crashing down. And didn't Jay tell TaskforceViking in that private email that he shared with us that Jay said...." It'll END in the derivative finality." Wow that really makes sense in this whole line of thought, imo my personal opinion. P.S- I want this to end so badly too like golden1101 has said and like we all want. I also can not wait until I do not have to read stupid and obvious 1-liner posts that finish off with...."Duc, still have no check"..... and really? I thought we all got paid and I thought I would waste my time writing a post when there would be no need to be because we all had our money. I am so looking forward as the rest of us to get paid but I feel confident that all is working out in a positive light with the many huge changes in the financial system that should lead to a new and much safer financial system to have our said large amount of money protected and safe. I do not believe that if the Team did collect this historic amount of money, that they would want it lost before what looks like needs to happen, a crash then a reset. But that is just my opinion. millionaires.proboards.com/post/726541
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Post by siriusnews2014 on Mar 11, 2014 13:52:22 GMT -5
Duc
as usually, it was an amazing post. I sure hope that the Stock Borrow Program elimination on March 14th, 2014, plays a role moving forward. Just a few more days till then.
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Post by Brigantine on Mar 12, 2014 8:43:23 GMT -5
Pay attention to the current squabble about the 2010 IMF Reforms. The bloody Congress is still doing the bidding of the cabal. Trying desperately to hold onto their veto power in the IMF.
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Post by goldengriff on Mar 12, 2014 9:04:08 GMT -5
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Mar 12, 2014 9:10:16 GMT -5
Very interesting post above. Question here.... Is there a time frame of 13 days for the market to clean up the borrowed stocks.. Like buying back the shorted Certs..? Like a clean up program..? Just asking.. TIA
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Mar 12, 2014 9:18:46 GMT -5
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Post by Duc N Altum on Mar 12, 2014 10:34:45 GMT -5
Oklahoma Senate Passes Bill to Authorize Gold and Silver as Legal Tender, 37-4OKLAHOMA CITY (March 11, 2014) – Yesterday, the Oklahoma State Senate passed a bill that would legalize gold and silver as legal tender, moving the legislation on to the House for consideration. The vote was 37-4. Senate Bill 862 (SB862), was introduced by Sen. Clark Jolley and Rep. Gary Banz, with cosponsorship from Sen. Natham Dahm. It reads, in part: Gold and silver coins issued by the United States government are legal tender in the State of Oklahoma. No person may compel another person to tender or accept gold or silver coins that are issued by the United States government, except as agreed upon by contract. If passed into law, Oklahoma would become the second state to recognize gold and silver as legal tender authorized for payments of debts and taxes. Last month, the Arizona senate also passed a similar bill by a vote of 18-12. Currently all debts and taxes in Oklahoma and the rest of the United States are either paid with Federal Reserve Notes (dollars) which were authorized as legal tender by Congress, or with coins issued by the U.S. Treasury — very few of which have gold or silver in them.The United States Constitution states in Article I, Section 10, “No State shall…make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts.” The Constitutional tender act is a big step towards that constitutional requirement which has been ignored for a long time in every state of the country. Such a tactic would achieve the desired goal of abolishing the Federal Reserve system by attacking it from the bottom up – pulling the rug out from under it by working to make its functions irrelevant at the State and local level. Passage of this legislation would introduce currency competition with Federal Reserve Notes. Professor William Greene explains further: “Over time, as residents of the State use both Federal Reserve Notes and silver and gold coins, the fact that the coins hold their value more than Federal Reserve Notes do will lead to a “reverse Gresham’s Law” effect, where good money (gold and silver coins) will drive out bad money (Federal Reserve Notes). As this happens, a cascade of events can begin to occur, including the flow of real wealth toward the State’s treasury, an influx of banking business from outside of the State – as people in other States carry out their desire to bank with sound money – and an eventual outcry against the use of Federal Reserve Notes for any transactions.” Once things get to that point, Federal Reserve notes would become largely unwanted and irrelevant for ordinary people. Nullifying the Fed on a state by state level is what will get us there.
SB862 will first be assigned to a house committee where it will need to pass by a majority vote before the full house has an opportunity to send the bill to the governor’s desk for a signature. Without a single act of Congress, the Federal Reserve system can be brought to its knees by passing such bills in states all over the country.
blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2014/03/oklahoma-senate-passes-bill-to-authorize-gold-and-silver-as-legal-tender-37-4/#.UyB6153D_IU
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Post by Brigantine on Mar 18, 2014 16:45:56 GMT -5
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