From: Jay Adobe Date: Saturday,
July 4, 2009 7:06
Subject: Re: Fwd: Edwards' Penalty
To: Scott
> Scott,
My thoughts are no longer needed.
Just re-read my old posts.If nothing else, they are spoken too soon. We are where
> we are, and soon enough we will have finally arrived.The
> astonishment is yet to come, but this is a good start.
It'll end >
with derivatives' finality. Enjoy your day.
Hang in there as the >
script unfolds all around us and countries continue the re-
>
alignment. 'Tis a wonderful day to be a shareholder. IMO.
Read more:
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So obviously the end has not been reached yet with the derivative finality not here yet..... so therefore if the END has not arrived yet.... THEN HIS POSTS ....despite the dates in which they were posted means nothing.... so as Jay said and admitted... "Just re-read my old posts. If nothing else, they are spoken too soon."
And here is a post by Jay posted September 3rd, 2009... which is one year after the financial crisis of September 2008.... which now has been admitted that the core issue or reason was "DERIVATIVES" and not as it was fully labeled when the 2008 financial crisis was happening they were only saying it was "subprime issue," and nothing more.
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By: jay_adobe03 Sep 2009, 03:35 PM EDT
Rating: Rate this post: Msg. 864467 of 869992
(Reply to 864465 by oldepro)
oldepro, I think it was magnificently scripted and portrayed masterfully by some key players involved, wouldn't you say? You can 'bet your bippy' on every Cree sinew near and in the FALC that he Shore blew that whistle, long and loud, strategically putting into place all that has come to pass, much of which you'll never ever see. A lot of this whole thing is about to be exposed to the public in such a fashion as has never been witnessed before,
especially when the derivative phantoms appear, and it will affect and strain relationships between countries globally. Friends and enemies will change sides. Countries will continue to re-align. Full exposure of the derivatives fiasco will hurt, and hurt badly. What a plan. What a marvelously intricate and perfect plan. All in my humble opinion. Enjoy your weekend. BTW, was he 'thrown' under the bus, or did he guide the bus to where we are today? It had to appear as it did. More to come real quickly.
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SO WITH THE DERIVATIVES BEING THE CORE ISSUE IN 2008.... AND JAY ADOBE SAYS HERE IN THIS POST DATED SEPTEMBER 3, 2009... ONE YEAR AFTER THE DERIVATIVE CRASH OF 2008... HE IS OBVIOUSLY SAYING THAT THERE IS A LARGER DERIVATIVE MESS COMING IN THE FUTURE.
Anyway, when we now know that the MAIN ISSUE OR REASON WAS THE DERIVATIVES.... and if we have paid attention to how the Federal Reserve has lowered the interest rates...INTENTIONALLY right after the financial crisis of 2008.... WHY? Because there is $400 Trillion worth of derivatives that are wrapped up in "interest rate swaps" and since the Fed has been OBVIOULSY holding down the interest rate below 3% at around 2.49% to 2.75% range..... with THEY THE FED HOLDING THE INTEREST RATE BELOW 3% HAS HAD THE DERIVATIVES IN HIBERNATION MODE SINCE THE 2008 FINANCIAL CRISIS. So we have not felt a darn thing of the whole $1.4 quadrillion ( $ 1,400 Trillion dollar derivatives... which is 25 times the size of the whole global economy) so once there is a financial crisis like the petro dollar getting killed when countries finally say they are not using it anymore..... and then the Federal Reserve loses it's oxygen supply and or blood supply when the petro dollar is majorly damaged or killed when the whole world does not keep the global demand by using it anymore.... to which currently is why the Federal Reserve is the strongest bank in the world.... because every country HAS BEEN FORCED since the early 1970's WHEN THE PETRO DOLLAR AGREEMENT WENT INTO PLAY.
So what is very interesting is how in July 2014 the BRICS IMF is starting and when all of these countries jump out of the current controlled US IMF to which the United States is in 1st place control with 17% and a distant second place is China with only 3% and third and fourth are less and less. So Basically the United States has full control of the current and only IMF right now. But when this BRICS IMF starts in July 2014... and all of these countries can co-exist and not be controlled by the United States and it's stupid petro dollar agreement crap.... do you think when these countries are over in their separate new financial system where they will be allowed to back their currencies.... unlike the current controlled IMF by the United States... where if the U.S allowed any of these countries to back them selves.... it would depreciate the PETRO DOLLAR...WHICH MEANS THE DEMAND OF THE U.S PETRO DOLLAR WILL BE KILLED AND WE THE UNITED STATES ONLY PAY OUR BILLS BY GETTING THE MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL RESERVE...... SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE PETRO DOLLAR DEMAND IS KILLED? THEN THE FEDERAL RESERVE'S MONEY CAN NOT BE PRINTED INFINITELY AS IT HAS BEEN DOING UP TO THIS CURRENT POINT AND WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE UNITED STATES ECONOMY WHEN THE FEDERAL RESERVE MONEY CAN NOT BE PRINTED TO THE LEVELS IT HAS..... AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THE UNITED STATES MONETARY SYSTEM WHEN THE UNITED STATES IS THE NUMBER ONE DEBTOR NATION IN THE WORLD AND ECONOMISTS HAVE FLATOUT SAID... WE THE UNITED STATES CAN BARELY PAY THE INTEREST ON OUR OWN DEBT.
SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE PETRO DOLLAR IS DAMAGED BY THE DEMAND NOT BEING THERE ANYMORE WHEN COUNTRIES FINALLY SAY WE ARE DONE WITH USING IT? WOULD THAT NOT CAUSE A MAJOR FINANCIAL CRISIS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES THAT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE? AND WHAT IS ONE THING THAT WOULD PREVENT THE FEDERAL RESERVE FROM HOLDING DOWN THE INTEREST RATES AS THEY HAVE BEEN DOING SINCE 2008? "A FINANCIAL CRISIS!" AND IF THE PETRO DOLLAR GOT SLAUGHTERED THEN THIS WOULD BE EVEN A MAJOR ONE. AND NOW THE $400 TRILLION OF THE DERIVATIVES THAT ARE WRAPPED UP IN THE INTEREST RATE SWAPS MARKET ......WHEN A FINANCIAL CRISIS STARTS OR ONE LIKE THIS WHERE THE PETRO DOLLAR DEMAND IS FINALLY KILLED..... THE INTEREST RATES ARE GOING TO GO SKY HIGH WAY BEYOND THE FEDERAL RESERVES CONTROL OF TRYING TO HOLD IT DOWN BELOW 3%.
SO RIGHT NOW THE INTEREST RATES ARE BELOW 3% AROUND 2.49% TO 2.79% RANGE.... AND IF THOSE $400 TRILLION OF DERIVATIVES ARE ONLY WRAPPED IN THE RELATION OF INTEREST RATE ONLY.... WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A FINANCIAL CRISIS COMES.... AND THE INTEREST RATE GOES TO 6%? WOULDN'T THE $400 TRILLION IN INTEREST RATES THEN HAVE DOUBLED TO $800 TRILLION? AND I AM BASING THIS OFF OF THE 3% RANGE WHICH THE FEDERAL RESERVE DOES NOT WANT THE INTEREST RATES GOING ABOVE WHICH WOULD IGNITE THE DERIVATIVES OF THE $400 TRILLION THAT ARE WRAPPED UP IN THESE INTEREST RATE SWAPS THAT MANY HAVE SAID WILL KILL THE GLOBAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM.
And as a reminder of others who have spoken specifically on these derivatives of $400 trillion wrapped up on the interest rate swaps and just how these $400 trillion of the $1.4 quadrillion ( $1,400 trillion ... which is 25 times the size of the whole global economy ) .... these $400 trillion that are locked into the interest rate swaps are specifically spoken by ---->
Mexican Billionaire Hugo Salinas Price: "I think we are going to see a series of bankruptcies. I think the rise in interest rates is the fatal sign which is going to ignite a derivatives crisis. This is going to bring down the derivatives system (and the financial system)." -----------------
Now Jim Sinclair when he talked about in his video about Russia has the power to destroy us economically --->
" The truth is to take Russia out of the SWIFT system .... is to put a bullet right in the U.S foot. They have an ability to reciprocate in a manor that could cause us total collapse .... especially because the derivative market ... in which it is so tied into interest rates." --------------------
So once again, IF A FINANCIAL CRISIS HAPENS ON A MAJOR SCALE... ESPECIALLY IF WE THE UNITED STATES WHO GETS IT'S MONEY FROM THE FEDERAL RESERVE TO PAY IT'S BILLS.... IF THE PETRO DOLLAR'S DEMAND IS KILLED AS THE BRICS IMF STARTS IN JULY 2014.... WHAT IN THE WORLD OF A FINANCIAL CRISIS IS THAT GOING TO START HERE WHEN THOSE INTEREST RATES ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE HELD DOWN BY THE FEDERAL RESERVE ANYMORE AND WHEN THOSE $400 TRILLION OF DERIVATIVES THAT ARE WRAPPED UP IN INTEREST RATE SWAPS GOES UP?
SO AS SAID ABOVE... IF THE 3% RANGE OF INTEREST RATES IS THE MARK THAT THE FEDERAL RESERVE DOES NOT WANT TO REACH AND HAVE THE DERIVATIVES MONSTER WAKING UP OUT OF HIBERNATION BECAUSE THE 3% RANGE ALARM CLOCK WENT OFF..... AND BASED ON THE DERIVATIVES VALUE OF $400 TRILLION THAT ARE WRAPPED UP IN INTEREST RATE SWAPS.... IF THE INTEREST RATES GO TO 6%.... THEN THE VALUE OF THE $400 TRILLION OF THESE INTEREST RATE SWAPS JUST WENT TO $800 BILLION AND IF THE INTEREST RATE WENT TO 9% THAT WOULD BE $1.2 QUADRILLION ( $1,200 TRILLION ) AND IF 12% THAT WOULD BE $1.6 QUADRILLION ( $1,600 TRILLION ) AND 15% WOULD BE 2 QUADRILLION DOLLARS ( $2,000 TRILLION ) AND 18% WOULD BE $2.4 QUADRILLION ( $2,400 TRILLION DOLLAR) and 22% would be $2.8 QUADRILLION ( $2,800 TRILLION ) AND THE $2.8 QUADRILLION IS DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THE CURRENT TOTAL OF $1.4 QUADRILLION ..... AND THEN ADD ON THE $400 TRILLION IN INTEREST RATE SWAPS WITH THE INTEREST RATES RISING TO ALL OF THESE LEVELS..... THIS WILL ALL GO BEYOND 50 TIMES THE SIZE OF THE WHOLE GLOBAL ECONOMY!!! FACT!!! AND IF EVERY COUNTRY WERE TO PRINT OUT THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY WITH COVERING THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY.... IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE EVERYONE IS ALREADY WEAK FINANCIALLY BUT EVEN IF EVERYONE WAS STILL STRONG.... EVERYONE'S CURRENCIES WOULD IMPLODE IN VALUE OR THE LACK THERE OF. ALSO THIS IS NOT A WHOLE WORLD DERIVATIVE ISSUE. THE UNITED STATES AND IT'S LACK IN REGULATING THE DERIVATIVES BEFORE OCTOBER 2013, HAS ALLOWED THIS COMPOUNDING MESS OF THE DERIVATIVES THAT IS STILL LINGERING OVER THE U.S FINANCIAL ECONOMY MAINLY... AND PARTS OF EUROPE BECAUSE Deutsche Bank IS THE NUMBER ONE BANK OVER IN EUROPE THAT HOLDS THE MOST AMOUNT IN DERIVATIVE VALUATION ON THE PLANET. BUT IN SECOND PLACE IS JPMORGAN CHASE WHO HOLDS 90 TRILLION IN DERIVATIVES THAT IT CAN'T GET RID OF, AND BANK OF AMERICA HOLDS 70 TRILLION IN DERIVATIVES THAT IT CAN NOT GET RID OF BECAUSE THESE DERIVATIVES ARE ALL GARBAGE. 85% TO 90% OF ALL DERIVATIVES ARE ALL GARBAGE WHICH GOES TO SHOW WITH NO REGULATIONS ON THE DERIVATIVES BEFORE THE DERIVATIVE RULES WENT INTO EFFECT IN OCTOBER 2013.... ALL OF THESE INSTITUTIONS ARE HOLDING A HOT MESS THAT THEY CAN NOT GET RID OF. And to put a perspective on Bank of America's said derivative mess of $70 trillion. Lets say Bank of America is worth $500 billion and if they have a derivative mess holding of $70 trillion... that means that Bank of America is 140 times in the hole of their example of value of $500 billion as an organization.
This is massive folks. The derivatives have been forced in hibernation since the financial crisis of 2008. And while we have been waiting... there has been a ton done in regulations. There has never been a success at forcing the derivatives to ever have regulations put on them and that has been accomplished in this window of time. Also the Volcker Rule went into effect on April 1st, 2014... for the big banks... which goes hand in hand with the derivatives. TO put this in perspective of the JPMorgan Chase $2 billion dollar bad bet that was made a couple years ago with the London Whale..... 2 economists were on WTOP... a news radio station one in the 2 O'clock hour and the second in the 3 O clock hour when this happened.... and they both said the same exact thing.... " If the derivative title 7 rules and the Volcker Rule were in effect now, there is no way that JP Morgan Chase would of ever been able to make this derivative bet." So they just said the "derivative title 7 rules" and not ALL the derivative rules and since October 2013.... Gensler who was the top of the CFTC.... and the CFTC was the main organization to put in the derivative regulations with the financial reform bill.... said they were all done in October 2013.
And lets not forget, in the 2008 financial crisis Goldman Sachs was said in many articles through the years to of written most of the bad mortgages that would go bust and did go bust that led to the subprime issue..... but many articles said that Goldman Sachs during the financial crisis of 2008.... THEY did off balance sheet derivative bets THAT THE MORTGAGE INDUSTRY WAS GOING TO COLLAPSE. WELL THEY KNEW IT WOULD WHEN IF YOU GIVE SOMEONE WHO MAKES $25 THOUSAND A YEAR.... A $3 MILLION DOLLAR MORTGAGE THAT THIS PERSON COULD NOT AFFORD. SO IF THEY WROTE SO MANY BAD MORTGAGES LIKE THIS AND THE MAJORITY OF SUCH, THEY WOULD THEN KNOW THAT THIS INDUSTRY WAS GOING TO COLLAPSE. AND IF THEY THEN INTURN DID A BET OF BILLIONS OR TRILLIONS IN DERIVATIVE BETS WITH THEIR OFF BALANCE SHEETS.... THEN THERE IS THE DERIVATIVE MESS WITH THE FINANCIAL CRISIS IN 2008 TO WHERE PROBABLY A LOT OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS WERE DOING THESE OFF BALANCE SHEET DERIVATIVE BETS WHEN THERE WERE NO DERIVATIVE REGULATIONS IN SIGHT........... AND NOW PEOPLE DO NOT SEE HOW IMPORTANT IT IS AND WAS TO HAVE THESE DERIVATIVE RULES IN PLACE TO PREVENT SUCH?
AND LETS NOT FORGET IN 2010 WHEN THE DERIVATIVE RULES WERE SUPPOSED TO OF BEEN DONE.... ARTICLES IN 2012 SHOWED THAT BANKS HIRED LOBBYISTS TO FIGHT THE DERIVATIVE RULES FROM GOING INTO PLACE BACK IN 2010. AND DOES ANYONE NOT SEE THE COMMON SENSE OF AL HODGES' BIVENS LAWSUIT STARTING IN JANUARY 2010? REALLY?
? WHAT WAS AL THREATENING? TO LEAK OUT THAT OUR $3.87 TRILLION WAS OWED TO THE SHAREHOLDERS. AND WHO WAS AL'S BIVEN SUING? THE SEC. AND WHAT RIGHT DID THE SEC HAVE? THEY HAD A RIGHT TO CONTEST A LAWSUIT AGAINST THEM WHICH ANYONE DOES SO THIS WAS BEING HANLED BELOW THE SURFACE OF THE BACK AND FORTH REBUTTALS BETWEEN THE SEC AND AL HODGES. BUT IF THIS WERE TO OF GONE INTO A PUBLIC COURT ROOM... THEN THIS WOULD OF OPENED PANDORA'S BOX. HOW AND WHY? THE COURT WOULD OF MOST LIKELY ASKED FIRST...." WHY ARE THESE SHAREHOLDERS DESERVING OF THIS SAID $3.87 TRILLION DOLLARS?" AND AL HODGES COULD OF SAID IF IT REACHED AN OPEN PUBLIC COURT TRIAL.... " YOUR HONOR, THERE WAS A CERT PULL DONE FOR THESE SHARE HOLDERS WHERE THE NAKED SHORTERS OF THIS STOCK PAID FOR THEIR MANIPULATIONS TO WHICH THE VALUE ENDED AS SUCH AT $3.87 TRILLION ONCE THE MONEY WAS COLLECTED. And why has CMKM task force people been so quiet most likely? Because as soon as you let all out... you just used up all of your ammo and or LEVERAGE. So lets look back to what Bill Frizzell said to Attorney Fryar---->
We asked Frizzell about whether the company has any evidence of naked short selling. Frizzell has guarded this information as extremely private and claims that the company is not allowed to release this information. Attorney FryarSo if this information were let out, then it could not be used as leverage to FIX ALL THAT NEEDED TO BE FIX AS THOSE WHO USED THIS STOCK AS A VEHICLE TO CORRECT WHATEVER THEY WANTED CORRECTED. ALSO MANY HAVE SAID THAT THEY DID NOT JUMP ON BOARD WITH THIS STOCK FOR THE NAKED SHORT STUFF AND THEREFORE THEY JUST WANT THEIR MONEY. WELL CMKM WOULD OF BEEN ANOTHER NAKED SHORT STATISIIC OR DEATH AND WOULD OF NEVER GOTTEN OUT OF IT'S NAKED SHORT HELLLLL IF THOSE WHO USED THIS FOR A BIGGER PICTURE OBJECTIVE.
So back to the point of Al's leverage of using CMKM ...... if it were said and the proof had to be shown if those who this leverage was for to scare did not follow then in a public court trial ...... the proof could be seen in a public court manor where the thousands of other pink sheet stocks who have been naked shorted into the ground could use this proof of evidence for their own to fight their cause and get justice with this proof. As an example.... in many court cases an attorney would use as reference another court trial or many where they say... "we are using the court case of Al Hodges vs. the SEC where in that evidence it proved that massive manipulation happened with naked short selling," if Al's bivens made it to a public court room.
And here is a Jay post I found interesting and looks exactly what I believe Al's threat was and Jay did this post 4 years prior on Jan 12th, 2006 and Al started his Bivens January 8th, 2010--->
By: jay_adobe 12 Jan 2006[/b], 11:25 AM EST
Msg. 89061 of 785736
(This msg. is a reply to 88981 by machcobra.)
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mach, Surely you jest. Surely you do not believe that the manpower, dollars, and other resources being expended through all of this is merely to distribute 45 million shares of stock. You are a much more intelligent person to have stepped back and looked at a bigger picture and taken into consideration the effort, time, and resources being consumed for merely a stock distribution. No, mach, this is much bigger. And no, mach, you cannot see below the surface yet. You may never be allowed to see everything below the surface. But surely you do not think that "screw you" resides in Mr. Maheu's vocabulary do you? That exudes a sense of giving up. No, mach, Mr. Maheu doesn't give up. He does carry a big stick, though.
Why would he jeopardize international economic systems and order to just give up and say "screw you"? Are you kidding?
We have regulatory agencies in place that force action and obedience to rules and regulations[/size].[/b] When you are caught speeding by a policeman, you are strongly encouraged to slow down. If you choose to not slow down, then there are regulatory agencies, if you will, known within the judicial system that will force you to slow down or remove your ability to speed. The same exists in the financial markets. The regulatory agencies are designed to force the perpetrator to do right and ensure he doesn't do wrong again. Okay, so maybe they have not been doing such a good job.
Hmmmmm, why is it that we all have on the tip of our tongue that Mr. Maheu has never lost a case against a regulatory agency? Why is that statement burnt into each of our brains?
If certain regulatory agencies do not clean up what we have found to be dirtied, doesn't Mr. Maheu have the power to use the highest judicial entity in the land and every one subordinate too? Of course. No, we will not air our country's dirty laundry too much. We may hang it out on the line to dry, but it will be behind a curtain. Some may see it flapping in the breeze, but no one will see all the laundry hanging there. We have a country to protect, as well as international economic systems. Of course, this is imo.--------------------
I did not believe that our said $ 3.87 trillion was going to be proven in a public court with Al's bivens. If that happened then all companies that were naked shorted would have the court system operating with a revolving door with never ending lawsuits AND MORE IMPORTANT, THE STOCK MARKET IS SUPPOSED TO BE A HUGE PART OF OUR FINANCIAL..... AND IF THIS CMKM EVIDENCE WERE LET OUT.... THEN SO MANY AVERAGE PEOPLE WOULD KNOW THE REAL TRUTHS OF THE STOCK MARKETS CORRUPTIONS AND THEN THERE WOULD BE NO STOCK MARKET FOR A VERY LONG TIME MAYBE FOR GENERATIONS UNTIL 30 OR 40 YEARS FROM NOW THERE MIGHT BE SOME WHO WOULD RESURRECT A WALL STREET WHEN MOST WHO KNEW THE OLD CORRUPT ONE WOULD BE NO LONGER LIVING TO REMEMBER THIS OLD CORRUPT ONE IF ALL THIS INFORMATION GOT OUT FOR ALL TO SEE.
Anyway, what is very interesting with Al Hodges' threat/ leverage of his CMKM bivens.... starting July 10th, 2012.... through July 26, 2012.... the flood gates opened where on the average 2 sets of derivative rules went into effect every other day on the average.... and they continued to keep coming out AND WHEN AL'S BIVENS DID NOT GET ACKNOWLEDGED BY THE SUPREME COURT.... A COUPLE DAYS LATER IT WAS RELAYED THAT AL HODGES WAS GOING TO TALK TO US BUT HE COULD NOT TALK YET.... AND THEN I BELIEVE IT WAS 3 DAYS AFTER THE SC DENIED THE BIVENS.... AT 5PM EST " THE CROSS BOARDER DERIVATIVE RULES CAME OUT." AND 5 HOURS AFTER THE "CROSS BOARDER DERIVATIVE RULES CAME OUT... AL FINALLY SAID "THERE IS NO NEED TO CONTINUE, WE WON." And then he spoke about what was going to happen with the financial system changes with the dollar and so on. Anyway, the "cross-boarder derivative rules" I believe were the last set of derivative rules to be done or needed to be done. Well the cross boarder derivative rules were one of the most important set of derivative rules to go into place. Research them if folks are not aware of their significance.... but basically it prevents any organization that is global.... from making derivative bets from other country soil and making derivative bets from there back to the U.S .... so basically the cross boarder derivative rules eliminate the loop hole of getting around from these organizations using other avenues to manipulate our system.
And for those who think CMKM diamonds right now is important it is in one respect.... it needs to have a pulse or a heart beat so we have a viable relation/ pulse with a transfer agent since all of our shares are on certs.... seems to be an important thing to keep alive and I give Steve K. respects in that regard for keeping that pulse alive also until we do get over into Emerson Koch's 1010 company. Yeah, Steve K. said he can not reach Emerson Koch.... but if he claimed that he could reach him.... we the shareholders would be asking why are we not over in the 1010 Steve? Well lets not for get something that was shared with me about a year and a half ago, and a poster by the name of Dizardos said it on millionaires out in the open many months back so I feel since he said it on an open board, I will then talk about it and I will not say who I heard it from in respects to the shareholder that shared it with me over a year and a half ago.
But at the Ecuador mining trip there was Urban Casavant, Roger Glenn and many shareholders. And all that was talked about in this 2005 mining trip was what? "DERIVATIVES."
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Here is Dizardos' post, mentioning exactly what I heard about the Ecuador Mining trip was about---->
The (average) shareholders who went to South America and met Roger Glenn, Ed Dhonau, Emerson Koch, Urban Casavant and Rendall Williams stated that those individuals were only talking about derivatives on that trip. Those shareholders in question did not even know what derivatives were at that time, so they started looking into derivatives upon their return. This certainly fits in with the quote by Jay Adobe. Maybe CMKX engaged in more strategic manoeuvres than we even assumed. Derivatives often imply more leverage and with an unexpected curve-ball such as CMKX, maybe they went all in and entered the derivative market too to make it ´sting´ even more....... I cannot imagine all those important CMKX people to be only talking about derivatives unless it was a critical part of their long range strategy, so the most important question seems to be how they and thus by extension CMKX was directly involved with derivatives? I would assume derivative trades took place and were settled behind closed doors like naked shorted shares were. Rendall Williams even had large gold bars at his house from what I understand just like Urban Casavant apparently.
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So why did I re-post this? Yes this mining trip was in 2005 AND AS IT WAS SAID HERE AS I HEARD IT EXACTLY AS WELL.... "those individuals were only talking about derivatives on that trip." BUT MOREOVER MY POINT, IF THE DERIVATIVES WERE SUCH A HUGE RELATION WITH CMKM...... AND AS JAY ADOBE TALKED ABOUT... IT WILL END IN THE DERIVATIVE FINALITY AS HE SAID TO TASKFORCEVIKING IN THAT EMAIL AS I STARTED THIS POST OFF WITH..... THEN LOOK AT WHO I HIGHLIGHTED..... EMERSON KOCH. WHY? VERY SIMPLE IN POINT.... IF THE WHOLE BIG PICTURE OF CMKM'S RESULTS OF REWARDS/ PAYMENT ARE TO END IN THE DERIVATIVE FINALITY.... AND EMERSON KOCH WAS THERE WITH ROGER GLENN, URBAN CASAVANT AND ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ...... THEN EMERSON KOCH ALSO KNEW THE WHOLE BIG PICTURE RELATING TO THE DERIVATIVES. AND AS STEVE K. MAY LOOK HOPELESS NOW WITH TRYING TO FIND ASSETS OF SOME SORT FOR MAKING HIS CMKM GET VALUE....... AND AS HE SAID HE HAS GIVEN UP ON EMERSON KOCH BECAUSE EMERSON KOCH CAN NOT BE FOUND.... DOES IT NOT MAKE COMPLETE SENSE THAT AS THE PR FROM BACK IN JULY 2009 WHEN THE ENTOURAGE SHARES WENT BACK IN THE FIRST PART OF THE PR.... AND THE SECOND PART OF THAT PR.... SPOKE ABOUT EMERSON KOCH AND WE GOING OVER TO THE 1010..... IT ONLY MAKES COMPLETE SENSE OF STRONG POSSIBILITY THAT WE ALL WILL BE BRIDGED OVER RIGHT AT THE END OF THIS AFTER THE DERIVATIVE ISSUE HAPPENS. STEVE K. ONCE AGAIN IS KEEPING A PULSE ALIVE WITH CMKM ...ALLOWING A RELATIONSHIP WITH A TRANSFER AGENT.... BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE CERTED SHARES AND IF WE HAD NO COMPANY, IT WOULD SEEM IMPOSSIBLE FOR TRANSFER ONLINE OR ANY TRANSFER AGENT TO EXCEPT US AND MARK OUR SHARES. AND ANOTHER HUGE THING WITH KEEPING CMKM WITH A PULSE.... IS CMKM BEING BRIDGED OVER TO THE 1010 AFTER THIS CMKM THING ENDS OUT. SO THANK YOU TO ALL HEADS OF CMKM THAT HAVE KEPT THE PULSE ALIVE AND CONTINUE TO UNTIL THE BRIDGING OVER TO THE 1010.
By: jay_adobe 17 May 2007, 09:47 AM EDT
Msg. 547480 of 779574
(This msg. is a reply to 547474 by seatech3.)
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seatech,
I believe he was talking about the shell CMKM Diamonds, Inc only. So, yes, I believe that statement to be currently true about CMKM Diamonds, Inc. CMKM Diamonds Inc is merely a shell now with $588 in the coffers and 45 million Entourage shares at this point in time. I believe current management believes everything they are putting out as it pertains to CMKM Diamonds Inc.
My beliefs are of a much larger, more encompassing viewpoint.
This whole plan is so much bigger than the current CMKM Diamonds Inc. I believe CMKM Diamonds Inc is the current bouncing ball or distraction. imo
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So once the derivative crash happens, it fully makes sense that something this out of control large financial mess that is in play with the derivatives and all other garbage alike from the current financial controllers that allowed all of these messes to happen up to this point..... Al Hodges' said "RESET" only makes sense considering something like this has never happened before in the history of financial markets. But something this massive of corruption most likely has not been this large either to force such a need for a "reset." Anyway, we will have to see but it does make sense considering all that has gone.
So once again I agree, these dates and all that have happened up to this exact point have meant nothing and nothing has been accomplished, lol.
P.S- I will bring over many threads to PB 29 that I have done in the past 5 to 6 months like....
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*the DTCC Documentation Cover-up* ( relating to the DTCC manipulation with cmkm's naked short
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*Shore/ diamond project Signed with James Smith Cree Nation*3)
"If a STING.... ALL BETS ARE OFF FOR RULES" 4)
CMKM's Naked Short Story 5)
Focus on the word "CONTROL," claims are fine imo 6)
Events leading to Al Hodge's "Reset" - IMO