UC is not dead..? Let's talk about this today.

[John Winston Lennon O'Boogie]

WHO IS THIS GUY alrich...? Why is he telling us this..? If the Mods would like me to delete this Thread I will. TIA


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alrich
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12 hours ago flyingj and seagull like this.
Post by alrich on 12 hours ago

Ice, uc isn't really dead , but I get your pt.





legacy2001
DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD

Have you talked to UC? Wait, let me re-phrase that . . . How do you know this?

All in fun, I know your mind set





THEY SAY MONEY CAN'T BUY HAPPINESS, PLEASE LORD JUST GIVE ME THE CHANCE TO PROVE THEM WRONG !!

[vulcanized crawler]

too conveniet everyone dies , huh?

[imSINGLEruRICH]

John,
Alrich is a member over on the Millionaire board. Just goes to show ya that there are STILL, to this day, many different beliefs expressed by many different shareholders & non- shareholders. Rumor around "CMKXtown" has heard different theories, thoughts and opinions ever since we first heard/ or was informed of Urban's passing. Why the disbelief by some?? Because no one seems to have been able to produce a death certificate, for the shareholders eyes. Then again.... there are supposedly other "true" documents & info out that are thought to be lies, coverups, by some who believe in the sting theory, whatever. Just a matter of different beliefs??

The current CEO of CMKX.. NHHI has addressed this "UC Death" matter back in December of 2014...... says he has a copy, of the certificate, on file....... but your not seeing it. As usual... myob.



December 5, 2014
RE: Confirmation of the death of Urban Casavant

To All CMKM/NHHI Shareholders:

I have had inquiries over the last few days concerning the validity of the reported death of former CMKM CEO and insider Urban Casavant. I reported Casavant’s death on February 17, 2014 on this website, and have discussed it on numerous Webinars. Urban Casavant did indeed pass away on February 14, 2014 in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada.

Apparently, there are individuals posting information on Proboards and other blogs that Mr. Casavant is not dead, is under “witness protection”, or other totally false material. Certainly, hearing of false information being circulated by various individuals regarding anything related to CMKM is nothing new. I do not read any Proboard or blog, and will continue to avoid doing so at all costs. However, when I post something on this website, you can rest assured that the information is accurate and truthful.

I have a copy of Mr. Casavant’s death certificate on file, but will not publish it out of deference to the privacy of the Casavant family. The U.S. Department of Justice has dismissed criminal charges against Urban Casavant due to his death. Please use the provided link here if you wish to view the DOJ’s Motion to Dismiss, which is additional validation of Casavant’s passing.

Frankly, even after three years of working as CEO of CMKM/NHHI, I do not understand the motives of a few select individuals that specialize in misinformation and controversy. I also do not understand how myths such as bogus trusts, payouts, conglomerates, “sting operations”, and other unverified stories continue to be circulated by some and even accepted by numerous well-meaning and innocent Shareholders. Regardless of your position on these controversial topics, time will prove that all we have left is a severely-damaged company struggling to survive and to recover the needed capital to build a legitimate business for our longsuffering Shareholders. The work will continue daily to accomplish that worthy goal.

Thank you and God bless.

Steve Kirkpatrick



CMKX... (as I STILL choose to refer to it) has been a crazy, wild and mixed up ride. Many twists and turns to shock. You cannot convince me that there are not more to come. I believe that anything still can happen. I will discard no ones thoughts or beliefs, not even Alrich's. Stranger things have happened !!

Single

[Brigantine]

Funny, that the ceo of nhhi would take it upon himself to acquire the death certificate of a former ceo of a company that morphed into the one he runs, now...

Just the oddest things...

[John Winston Lennon O'Boogie]

I remember SK putting that PR out.. It was to put our minds to rest and keep UCs name out of the courts? I guess it did for a very short time. You would think that Out of a big base of shareholders, someone would have came across the Paperwork on UC.. Why did this guy make this statement without proof? Is he one who does this often..? The old saying is, you have nothing to say, then don't say anything... Do we leave this tread and let the dead man RIP..? Or do we keep making believe he is still alive..? And why would we care if he is..? I guess the whole CMKX story would take another turn if he was.. WHAT IS THAT YOU ASK..? If they are hiding him, Why didn't they kill him off years ago..? Good question, why didn't they kill him off years ago..? Think about it.. I'm going to let the dead man rest in peace..

[imSINGLEruRICH]

AND IT CONTINUES......


Weener, Whiner, Not a Winner
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Post by Weener, Whiner, Not a Winner on 16 hours ago

NO wonder that shareholders are questioning the "DEATH CERTIFICATE", when they have to read that doj arm of extradition, The Office of International Affairs (OIA), does not even file the proper legal paperwork from the right authorities that would actually make the extradition possible.





7 hours ago Weener, Whiner, Not a Winner said:
I am reading this, but I am not convinced there is much proof here at all of his death.
If he was under care of a doctor at the time of the death.. there should be info on that.. which hospital he was in, discharge from the hospital.. no death certificate to be seen, no funeral info..
he was under a care of a doctor at time of death.. no info on the doctor or location..
and examiner only read the report made by somebody else.. but has not done the exam herself.

And it still seems to be a mystery to all involved as to why he was not extradited.. why Canada did not act on it.
Nobody can point any fingers.. to anything.

Everything seems to be vague. It may be true.. or it may not.





alrich
DIAMOND JEDI MASTER
Post by alrich on 15 hours ago

Dead men can't testify in Court, in the wind with a new name.




portrush
Administrator
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I've given this some thought from time to time...a new member in the WPP and a new life on an island somewhere. The more I think about it, the worse it must be. To leave family, friends, relatives and more...for the sake of having to live anew somewhere strange, regardless of the view and the temperature. Not sure its a reward at all.

pr





alrich
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Post by alrich on 14 hours ago

Better than death and UC's is probably living high off the hogs, at our expense. There is only 2 sides to our story, it was a Sting OR it Wasn't, reading dyemenz and I believe her; it looks like it was pure RICO.





bingo123
DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD
If dyemenz is right, then we are screwed and will never get paid anything because there never was any money since Urban stole it!





alrich
DIAMOND JEDI MASTER
Post by alrich on 13 hours ago

Naw, UC didn't steal it, our Govt. did. Protected all the scum Banks and Brokerages, at the expense of majority of the hard working citizens of the World; remember people from all over the World invested in this Co. and it's associated Co's.

[imSINGLEruRICH]

And discussion still proceeds surrounding the who, what, where and how info was obtained, regarding UC's death.

dyemenz
DIAMOND JEDI MASTER
Post by dyemenz on 10 hours ago

There is indeed a lesson in all this 3 page chatter & guess work.

2 researchers by the Authority of Steve, sole officer & principal of the company, are able to speak to whomever is necessary and collection of documents, on Steve's behalf. Have already posted about that.

Steve sometimes makes requests of us, that are menial tasks if he is traveling or immersed in legal conferences, or related to litigation. Or, he simply needs it, Per His Request, or we do to continue research. The company was entitled to information and the death certificate, as was the SEC and the DOJ. Confirming first of all, if there is a death certificate to request.






IceCrush
Mod Squad
Dye, with all respect, yes you may need the information but a court order is required.
Frizzell/SK/SEC could have requested it through a court order, but the fact is no one wanted
to wait or go through legal channels.
Even they, (Steve, SEC, DOJ) shouldn't have had access
to the information without a court order. That's the fact, that's the law.

Confirm it by someone who willing could give it out, such as family or close friend, but requesting
it from anyone within the governmental system isn't via proper channels........and if someone gave you
the information then they stepped out of their legal boundary. The company or whoever find a way
to justify their actions but the law is the law, and when an organization feels they are above the law
or go out of their way to break the law, it shows lack of integrity, that the end justifies the means.

She shouldn't have given out any information, nor should
anyone have pushed for it, because doing so was breaking the law (on our side). The harm done is to her record
of employment as being untrustworthy with private documents and the whole web knows as well.

[vulcanized crawler]

death certificates, birth certificates....arent they all produced on a computer with photoshop?

[3bid]

Jul 29, 2015 18:11:32 GMT -5 vulcanized crawler said:

death certificates, birth certificates....arent they all produced on a computer with photoshop?

To authenticate we need something like the Medallion stamp -- backed by a reputable firm with the fiduciary duty to protect from fraud. Imagine if it was slipped in with certificates WF was quick to rubberstamp. Mistakes happen.

[cmkx4ever]

I haven't been on here for awhile, and was just checking in to see what the topic was, so I thought I would throw in my 2 cents, but the last time I checked which was December of 2014, UC was not deceased, I wish I could elaborate on how I know this but I can't . HAGN

[raidermike99]

Jul 29, 2015 21:30:51 GMT -5 cmkx4ever said:

I haven't been on here for awhile, and was just checking in to see what the topic was, so I thought I would throw in my 2 cents, but the last time I checked which was December of 2014, UC was not deceased, I wish I could elaborate on how I know this but I can't . HAGN

The Beer Jeanie has granted you one wish so go ahead and elaborate.

[skoondog]

Lets don't talk about this!!!! If he is some kind of program (IF) then you might get your ass in deep with the people who put him there... Come on, if they said he is dead. Then in real life he is dead.. If you get your nose in a place that it's not suppose to be in, then it will stink...


Skoondog

[vulcanized crawler]

exactly why i stopped talking about jimmy hoffa a few decades ago

[imSINGLEruRICH]

And people are still talking and discussing it.......

procmkm
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11 hours ago Treadstone, ontheroad and 7 more like this.
Post by procmkm on 11 hours ago

No Novels, I've Been Involved With UC Since I Met Him At An Aviation Company In Traverse City Mi, And What
Followed Is A Journey Which Is Going To be Fulfilled With Riches!




13 hours ago alrich said:
ice, kind of wonder if uc is thawed out and breathing.





9 hours ago flyingj said:
I doubt Urban would need thawing out on the beach.

Flyingj





guymccool
DIAMOND JEDI
Post by guymccool on 7 hours ago

About UC's death from complications from a hernia operation....

I need to have a hernia operation at some point in the not too distant future. I performed some "DD" and there are 3 hospitals in the Southern CA area that specialize in hernia operations. Most of the operations can be performed on an "outpatient" basis. The opening in the abdominal wall is analyzed and a piece of mesh is cut and designed and after a local anesthetic is given to the patient, the patient is cut open and the mesh is applied and stitched to close the opening. The skin is stitched and the patient is given pain pills and told to stay still for several days and afterwards.....GRADUALLY returning to normal activity.

It appears that UC's most strenuous activity was gambling.....so one might assume that he did not have a very MASSIVE hernia that required MAJOR surgery where he would have had to be "put under".

He DIED from complications from a hernia operation? Something just doesn't seem right here. Dying from major open heart surgery.....I could understand.....but a minor "outpatient" hernia operation??? And he wasn't that old. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm? All of this is just IMHO because I am a novice when it comes to hernia operations.....but still??? WTH?




IceCrush
Mod Squad
6 hours ago
In the Roger Glenn deposition, he mentioned how Urban had had a stroke. Perhaps Urban also had another stroke later on, but am not sure.
Urban's health wasn't good. While in Canada he was going to a medical rehab for the strokes and or perhaps for other health issues such as his heart. We really don't know what his health was like when he came back home, but I believe he
came back to Canada, not so much as to run away from the cmkm situation, but more to get Canadian medical care in his home town with family present.

If Urban had hernia surgery, while it may be outpatient surgery, his health being what it was could have caused complications after they sent him home. That's actually the bad part of day surgery, because you're not under
medical surveillance long enough....imho. I believe Dye said he died in his home. In Canada, they'd call an ambulance with 'first responders' who'd try to revive him for transport to a hospital. First responders are not doctors, so they can't certify him as dead. They'd work on him and get him to a hospital where the medical staff would take over and continue medical care or have him pronounced dead by a doctor. Urban may have been on medication from his strokes, or blood thinners prior to surgery....or if he had been on blood thinners they would have taken him off them prior to surgery. Therefore he'd be very susceptible to
another stroke, blood clot or embolism. So, yes, people die after hernia surgery, although it may not have been the hernia surgery that caused his death. But then........who knows with cmkm. Let's see what Acca has to say or if he says anything.
Notice that Acca mentioned Urban, but it wasn't in the past tense. I thought that odd.

[imSINGLEruRICH]

STILL talking about it?? On IHub no less??



ok husband Sunday, 10/11/15 02:15:41 PM
Re: help me post# 346587
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you are inferring that u c is still alive? I thought it was a simple hernia operation not gall bladder.





ok husband Sunday, 10/11/15 03:21:38 PM
Re: janice shell post# 346598
Post # of 346630

i don't think he is dead either. canada is like any third world country ,you can pay to fake your death and get fake papers for a new identity.




janice shell Member Level Sunday, 10/11/15 03:23:41 PM
Re: ok husband post# 346599
Post # of 346630

I think he is. He was never very healthy; looked at least ten years older than he was. And Carolyn still lives in their house.
Obviously the DOJ made sure.



(some insinuated that Locogringo was Melvin?? SK said he gave a copy of the death certificate to Melvin?? ) WTH??

locogringo Sunday, 10/11/15 04:43:39 PM
Re: janice shell post# 346598
Post # of 346630

Yet no obit, no death notice and no record.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
I'm sure the "authorities" could access all kinds of things if need be.

A foreign authority would have no jurisdiction in Canada to access the record without a lot of good reasons.

I would not make a bet on the validity of records that exist or don't exist at the Prince Albert Court House.