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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 15, 2015 7:44:05 GMT -5
ChuckWheat DIAMOND JEDI MASTER **** Post by ChuckWheat on Jul 12, 2015 at 1:30am
For years we've split ourselves largely along ideological lines, with a large segment of the population believing that money is coming and another believing that nothing is likely coming. Since I've found myself on both sides of this argument over the years, I think perhaps it's reasonable that I start the conversation about it. So here's some thoughts, hopefully laid out logically, that perhaps resonates across the spectrum of belief within our community:
1. I believe we've individually started this journey with whatever we had at the point of investment. Most of us are working class, investing what we could to make a better tomorrow for ourselves and our families. We didn't seek to become multi-millionaires (at least initially), we just wanted to make our lives better financially.
2. At some point along the journey we all dreamed the dream of getting significant money. We felt the dreams explained to us through the drag races, the message boards, people who seemed to know what was going on..they seemed reasonable as told.
3. We've had a significant number of events that have happened that point to the dream being plausible..and many events that have cast serious doubt on the idea that any payment could happen.
4. We've seen a parade of personalities over the years that were consistent in more than one way...they almost all believed the conclusion of the journey would have meaning, gave us unsubstantiated information that required great investment in faith but provided virtually nothing in return, and most come and go without any results to show for their statements and expectations. Some are treated as celebrities, but their statements have never reconciled with actual results either.
5. Finally, none of us are getting younger. For better or worse, if ever this hits many of us won't be able spend as much time enjoying it as we've spent waiting for it. Losses among original shareholders continue to mount, dreams unfulfilled in their lifetimes converting by default to dreams that ended up having no real meaning to their lives.
So I'd hypothesize that we are in a state of conflict...not with each other or whether we are going to be paid or not...but within ourselves. I'd say the real struggle is between what we desperately want (the big payday that allows us to fulfill our dreams of being wealthy) and what we have (people who tell us things that align with our desperate wants, and results that never align with these people's statements).
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My mother is a gentle, wise woman. Many times in childhood I felt the desire to have something (a Boy Scout uniform, a new bicycle), as many children of modest means did. Sometimes the pull of having these things was so great that it came out in negative, childish ways. One of her many pearls of wisdom she gave me in those times was simple: "Spit in one hand, and wish in the other...and see which one fills up first".
I'm not a child any more, neither are none of you. But my mother's wisdom still whispers in my ear...fanciful dreaming yields only warm emptiness; only action produces results that converts a dream to a reality.
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Dreaming is not a bad thing, in and of itself. It is our imagination meeting our best intentions...when coupled with a plan that changes the dream to a reality, it is perhaps one of the best things in life. It can be the mental and emotional conception that breathes life into a new reality.
Our journey has been full of promising dreams...some home grown in our hearts, some cultivated by those who tell us things we want to hear.
But the inescapable truth is that an unrealized dream produces nothing. Without action, progress, or results a dream is little more than a fairytale...new conception is aborted before it takes shape, prevents creation of a new reality.
And perhaps this is the point of my post this evening...for all the years of paying forward patience, understanding, and faith in the people and events that were allegedly transpiring, we essentially are in no different condition as a result of our participation in this journey than we were in the mid-2000's.
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A person's credibility can be well defined by two elements:
1) Does the person know the truth? If so,
2) Does the person speak the truth?
We have many in our community who claim to know truth, but essentially none of them have ever produced information that they can back-up with independent sources that collaborate their statements. They almost all say we need to take their words on faith, that great things are coming with the next passing event de jour.
OK. We've provided faith, patience, and understanding time and time again. And again. And again. And again.
And again.
What has our faith bought us? Essentially stagnancy in our position relative to where we were when we initially invested. New stories of what is holding things up, what will trigger our payments, and our entanglement in programs most of us never imagined could exist when we invested in a Canadian diamond mining venture.
What we don't have is progress or results.
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In closing, we have dreamed the dream; I've not been immune either, clearly. Some of you will continue to live in the dream, regardless of the thoughts expressed here. But I ask all of us to ponder what will we do to resolve "The Conflict" that sits before us.
When do we recognize that an unrealized dream is not a reality...but a waste of limited time and life energy?
How do we let go of something we so deeply want (or even need) that our highly-consistent history has shown us is not realistic or achievable?
How much more can we invest without giving away ourselves too in the process?
Are we each strong enough to understand the true conflict within ourselves, and then to take action to end that conflict by doing what we all know inherently is the right thing to do..and not keep chasing the thing we want instead?
For me the simple answer to these questions is also the one that also rings truest for me: Spit in one hand, place a decade of our actual results in the other...which fills the fastest?
With respects to all in this community, C-Dub
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 15, 2015 7:49:35 GMT -5
Some other thoughts.....
BHollenegg DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD
C-Dub... Time will tell...I strongly believe Attorney Hodges will be proven correct to the non-believers, to the unsure, and to All who kept the faith. "The Shareholders will be paid". As always, please stay grounded until funds are in YOUR hands. It's a Win! When? situation.
Thank you C-Dub,
BHollenegg
ChuckWheat DIAMOND JEDI MASTER
Hey Robert, it's always a pleasure to see you.
I have invested faith and advocated for patience over the years, wanted to believe that things were just delayed. You know this as well as anyone here on the boards.
But the discussion on credibility (above) has meaning...with respects for Mr Hodges (and others) who may believe they have sources or knowledge, I imagine that even he has to question what's going on each time he puts his credibility on the line to tell us it's almost over, and it ends with deafening silence.
Clearly he has strongly believed that we were very close to the end so many times over the years...yet for every couple of "we've won" statements we get annually there's 363 other days worth of silent non-progress...multiplied over the last 6-7 years, that's more than 2,000 measurable actual non-results to 12-14 promises.
So with reluctance I am compelled to ask a simple objective question to myself:
Does he know the real truth? If not, he is unable to communicate truth...and therefore things he communicates cannot be validated by actual results.
Whether it's a conscience choice to deceive us or he simply embraces information given to him without validating it's verocity, I cannot say...results don't betray reasons, they simply state what is.
But even if those who tell us things that consistently fail to materialize choose to keep believing, and then lending their credibility by insisting that the information is meaningful..it doesn't compel independently intelligent people to ignore the track record that has been created by both prediction and result.
So I stand by this thread's meaning...we are conflicted between what we want and what is real. We've done everything that has been asked of us, and still we sit more than a decade later without satisfaction or even basic knowledge of what's really going on with this investment. Never mind the "when" of it...we can't even say with absolute certainty that we actually do have some kind of payment due to us...it's been a leap of faith that we do have something, provided courtesy of people who cannot/will not tell us how they know such a thing.
If we are unable to see reality because we're so blinded by what we desperately want...where does that leave us?
And if we are so blinded, how will we ever know when it's time to stop trusting and extending faith?
Or as Dennis once said: "When it is "time", the message will be unmistakable and no one will be constrained to look for hidden clues or meanings." Our results are unmistakable, and they holds no hidden clues or messages beyond the obvious truth:
We are going nowhere, slowly.
With Respects, C-Dub
BHollenegg DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Post by BHollenegg on Jul 12, 2015 at 6:16am
C-Dub,
I understand your feelings and concerns. They are valid. I have gone through the same thing over and over. I became part of the lawsuit because of the same feelings and concerns. It turned out more complicated than I anticipated and longer than I anticipated...I learned solutions for complex situations take time. If Attorney Hodges had his finger on the release button, we would not be here today. Attorney Hodges assured me we will be paid. I took a stance and I will continue to stay with it until the Shareholders are paid, just as Attorney Hodges continues to do.
Thank you again, C-Dub, BHollenegg
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 15, 2015 7:56:24 GMT -5
IceCrush Mod Squad Jul 13, 2015 at 11:47am FourZero, kashman9 and 1 more like this.
C-Dub I respect what you are saying, and yes it is an internal conflict which each member has to address within themselves... and while I respect what you are sharing with us, according to your post, there is no importance to be here, or have this board, or share information or hope for an outcome to our investment, because as I read it, your understanding based on the lack of action or confirmation of information dictates there's nothing to be here for.
As I read it, the conflict is within you and it's your choice to continue on or not. That's a hard choice to make. You have great value on this board as a member, so if friend
I have no such conflict. I have the wherewithal to understand that all things eventually come to an end and to make of them what I can. I made an investment, understanding the risk and choose to follow it to the end, even if no end seems in sight.
If I don't want to come here I don't.
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Jul 15, 2015 8:32:31 GMT -5
Can one say this is A losing battle..? Not at all, it's not over. This was never a dream for me, it was a battle. Law suits and words were the weapons. The battle field was laid out and we seen it all. I don't see many more areas that have to be taken before the white flag is flown and the money flows somewhere. Today seems to be a big day in the CMKX law suit battle. We wait again to see what the commanders Steve K., and his team brings to the front line. Thanks for the read this morning.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 15, 2015 8:45:10 GMT -5
"Hope" remains for those who choose & wish to accept it. The US lottery system would be a "Dead Duck" without the "Hope" of millions and millions of people. In fact, A lot of things would fall victim to being labeled as "Dead Ducks", if all people in the world refrained from using/practicing.... "Hope". Imo... no harm in holding on to "HOPE", despite the odds associated with it. SINGLE
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Post by johnlocke3 on Jul 15, 2015 8:45:55 GMT -5
I come on every so often and read not making any comments . today i feel that we are getting closer to the end the journey I got in long ago and we will see a victory of some sort JOHN
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Post by gabbyhayes on Jul 15, 2015 10:41:37 GMT -5
I like the vibes on these threads today………...
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Post by JoeRockss on Jul 15, 2015 20:57:42 GMT -5
"Hope is the one thing that sometimes keeps us going."
Catherine Pulsifer
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Post by Display Name on Jul 15, 2015 21:46:37 GMT -5
"Hope is for suckers and fools."
Charlie Sheen
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Post by 3bid on Jul 17, 2015 19:46:17 GMT -5
"Hope is for suckers and fools." Charlie Sheen
Hope fuels the engine of willpower.
Charlie should contemplate the potency of false hope.
-3bid
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Jul 17, 2015 20:22:04 GMT -5
"Hope is for suckers and fools." Charlie Sheen
Hope fuels the engine of willpower.
Charlie should contemplate the potency of false hope.
-3bid
Charlie is false hope.
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Post by Display Name on Jul 17, 2015 23:26:44 GMT -5
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Post by Brigantine on Jul 17, 2015 23:44:05 GMT -5
John, John, John... One of the reasons you are so disillusioned is you are paying attention to the wrong bouncing balls. Steve K is a bouncing ball and a distraction for the moronic masses. CMKX in its current form is a joke, always has been and always will be. Until it is terminated after having consumed its usefulness in distracting the moronic masses.
CMKX was wrapped up in Nevada, before the stooge Kevin West brought it to Texas. Wrapped up is a legal business term. Read and understand the definition of Wrapped up and perhaps you will begin to comprehend how little value is expressed by CMKX in its current form. It's nothing but a stage show sleight of hand.
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Jul 18, 2015 7:18:56 GMT -5
Read the Bible. Who gets into Heaven first..? The rich or the poor.. Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.”
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Jul 18, 2015 7:21:05 GMT -5
John, John, John... One of the reasons you are so disillusioned is you are paying attention to the wrong bouncing balls. Steve K is a bouncing ball and a distraction for the moronic masses. CMKX in its current form is a joke, always has been and always will be. Until it is terminated after having consumed its usefulness in distracting the moronic masses. CMKX was wrapped up in Nevada, before the stooge Kevin West brought it to Texas. Wrapped up is a legal business term. Read and understand the definition of Wrapped up and perhaps you will begin to comprehend how little value is expressed by CMKX in its current form. It's nothing but a stage show sleight of hand. Yea the Bouncing ball again.. Smoke and Mirrors.. And all the rest of big A.H. words.
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