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Post by 2018 on Aug 23, 2015 15:11:54 GMT -5
Just Funny how they can try to make 50 grand from the shareholders for this and they never ever asked us to help fund the NSSing, only the Cert pull. I think it was 25 dollars. When it was time to file the task force distribution in federal court , nobody asked for the money to get it done. We spent money on cert pull, then got bunch of bs from everybody. We spent years pulling and registering certs. So when it was time for that nobody said ok Moran is not doing it but we need to get it done so let's collect to get somebody else. Or the money to have the shareholders meeting And vote. Everything we want to know about is clear as mud. With such things they keep us out of the loop. Of course all that is supposed to be buried , and Kirkpatrick is a new guy saying he knows nothing, it's before him , and let's just pretend none if that ever happened or was the most important thing for shareholders. So instead of shareholders getting paid for NSs, now they are asked to put in more money. It's a wonderful way to burry the whole NSs situation with willing participants.
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Post by 2018 on Aug 23, 2015 15:27:37 GMT -5
Aug 21, 2015 at 12:09pm dyemenz said:Steve was told from the government, even if something like that happened, a trust, it would go to the company. It was stated in a power point for a webinar. portrush Administrator Aug 21, 2015 at 12:34pm seagull, roberto and 4 more like this. But of course. And he just got done saying, repeating emphatically in this most recent webinar..."its YOUR company"...implying the company IS the shareholders. The honest, verifiable ones. That said...and slightly off topic...if there is nothing to any of this, I am still baffled that Frizzell would accept a reported 6 billion shares in lieu of a contracted payment plan (with interest) for the amount owed for his services. After all, there is the $2.7M Durr case and the unstated amount from the WF case and so on. Surely he was unaware those would become reality--but at the same time the chances had to seem more likely than what 6 billion shares in a dead-end company might deliver. Unless.... pr I disagree w points that dy has made. If the trust does exist it is to go to shareholders, not the Company. It's clear what the cert pull was for . Distribution of entourage shares and other assets. Stoecklein depo w sec further clarifies what other assets are, which is the money from those that had to buy into certs shorty. It was also clear that money from the same would pay for distribution itself . It was to go to the shareholders, not the company. Federal court was to decide at the end of cert pull who the shareholders are for the distribution . Now we have not been paid in all these years. Is company itself vying to get those funds for themselves , and take them away from shareholders? Shareholders have been discussing that in the past, that it could be new cmkx that has been trying to get bigger cut or get to the trust, and it's part of the reason for years of delay. All the task force members including frizzel who was part of it knows it was for the shareholders and not the Company. That was one weird statement, that dy put out saying that Kirkpatrick was told by the government it would go to the company, I certainly don't like it. Sure she said if there was one, but who the heck is Kirkpatrick talking w about shareholders trust, and why would they be comfortable putting statements like that out, when they all very well know why it would exist and that it was supposed to go to shareholders directly and individually.
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Post by thunkerdrone on Aug 23, 2015 16:12:15 GMT -5
I am getting worried about the predicted crash this fall. This could really be bad, so anything hopeful is welcome at this point. Everyone is talking about Jade Helm and possible food shortage riots on top of it all.....for people with nothing to fall back on this could be a scary next few months, if it bottoms out to be half as bad as they are all predicting.
even Sprott gold guru John Embry is talking about the coming financial collapse and Jade Helm
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 25, 2015 6:45:33 GMT -5
swordfish168 Junior Miner Aug 23, 2015 at 11:30am testarossa, nandi and 1 more like this.
I gave money to Frizzell 2 times and got nothing for it. It was the same kind of thing - many people giving small sums of money. He did not even get back to us - as far as I can see he just kept the money. He is still with the company today - just in the background.
Now you want us to give money again with some of the same players just a different coach. The team needs a new roster for me to pony up or even consider it.
This speaks very poorly about a situation where many have been told for years that we will be rich SOMEDAY, been taken advantage of and yet asked to forget the past with some of the same players. Its just a different story. The players including people that have been obviously made more wealthy through us but have to come to us for $25,000 when millions are coming someday and there is not enough confidence in them to come up with such a small sum by other means or through themselves.
SK should ask Frizzell to use the money he collected to pay off this sum or explain what he did with the money collected and why he ignored us or give it back to the people he collected it from. I need answers and I think we deserve it. If someone at the company harmed us why is he still there and not made accountable for his past actions.
Something is definitely wrong with this situation. To me this does not look very promising for any of us.
best, Mike
larsburger Junior Miner Post by larsburger on Aug 23, 2015 at 9:42pm
SK is a small fish trying to swim with the oil whales. In my opinion it is farcical that he even presented this to the shareholders. He has come on the scene late in the game after Frizzell tapped some of us more than once for money, as did Mark Faulk with his book that I ordered and paid for but still wait for delivery.
Good luck to SK and his handlers (Frizz & Team) me thinks that you're going to need it.
Lars
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 15:11:29 GMT -5
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Aug 26, 2015 16:20:37 GMT -5
August 26, 2015 RE: Update on Conceptual Oil Venture To All CMKM/NHHI Shareholders: The response to the concept of NHHI investing in the oil/gas industry has been very exciting to say the least. I am both humbled and thankful for the interest shown by many shareholders, and am happy to say that the interest is high enough to move forward with the required expenditures and documentation to progress from a conceptual phase to a real venture. I will be communicating directly with those shareholders that have expressed interest in the concept, and will provide additional information to them on the process of formalizing an offering. Once the process is completed, and if the preliminary interest remains firm, NHHI will ultimately receive a “free” stake in an oil exploration and production venture. If successful, the venture will provide the footprint, track record and revenues necessary to build a viable and profitable company over time. I will not be hosting a webinar tomorrow night, but will update the general shareholder population next month with regard to ongoing news, business and litigation. Thank you. Steve Kirkpatrick stevek@cmkmdiamondsinc.com
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 26, 2015 17:04:25 GMT -5
Then again...... SK thought Amway was doing really good. Makes me wonder just how many , is considered many, shareholders and how much are they willing to "hand over" ?? Good luck to those who choose this path. From what I have read on the different boards.. many many shareholders seem to think it will be needed.
drillbit DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Post by drillbit on about an hour ago
"free" stake in an oil and gas venture? LOL
Ya'll want to invest go ahead on but remember my warnings about this guy. He has my phone # if he wants to talk but I won't stand on one foot waiting for that call.
"I will be communicating directly with those shareholders that have expressed interest in the concept, and will provide additional information to them on the process of formalizing an offering." This too gives me pause as ALL shareholders should be made aware of that information. A true CEO doesn't select individuals with which to share any deal. It should be open to all of us.
. johmond DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Post by johmond on about an hour ago
After yesterday poll only 9-10 people would invest I know there are many more sites, but I would take this as a basic number.....something doesn't smell right.......well things have been stinking for awhile.....ohh!! well and it continues.
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Post by gabbyhayes on Aug 26, 2015 18:34:16 GMT -5
???Sorry….I agree….something doesn't pass the smell test here….invest at your risk..imo……...
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 27, 2015 7:14:25 GMT -5
13 hours ago momoney said:So let me get this right.... According to him its the shareholders company but he is only going to communicate with the few who chose to invest in the companies new oil and gas venture ? Oh ok so we will see how well that goes.....because I'm personally done with stupid !!! AIMO 11 hours ago seagull said:Mo We have been told it is not our company...our business, etc 13 hours ago momoney said:That's not what Steve said during the last webinar # 46 : He stated: this is the hard fact—Steve didn’t buy a shell (CMKM). The company isn’t his—it’s the shareholder’s company. This is YOUR company.All he is trying to do is turn this company into something of value for the shareholder’s benefit.
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Aug 27, 2015 7:37:01 GMT -5
If he is, then he is not explaining it to us. You can't dive into the ocean and then say to yourself you can't swim. You know what will happen..? You will drown. The coffee was good this morning.. More input please.. 1 dollar a share.. Who gave them that valuation..? The SEC...?
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Post by portrush on Aug 27, 2015 8:27:36 GMT -5
A dollar? During the webinar he said it may be more like $10. He can set it...this is new investment into the company by independents willing to kick in some new cash so he can kick something into gear to generate revenue. Half of what is invested goes to NHHI, the other to the investor who earns ROI over a 3-5 year period. Once the timeline is satisfied it reverts to NHHI, you're out...but will have earned 10-15% on your money over that time.
pr
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Aug 27, 2015 9:13:58 GMT -5
A dollar? During the webinar he said it may be more like $10. He can set it...this is new investment into the company by independents willing to kick in some new cash so he can kick something into gear to generate revenue. Half of what is invested goes to NHHI, the other to the investor who earns ROI over a 3-5 year period. Once the timeline is satisfied it reverts to NHHI, you're out...but will have earned 10-15% on your money over that time. pr Webinar #46 Discussion NOTES / NEW Update from SK Aug 19, 2015 at 4:31pm Quote like Post Options . Post by portrush on Aug 19, 2015 at 4:31pm August 19, 2015 RE: PowerPoint Outline for Webinar #46, Reg D 504 Offering for Oil/Gas Acquisition To All CMKM/NHHI Shareholders: Webinar #46 was held last night, with a peak attendance of 56 in the NHHI PalTalk room for the 3 hour event. Please click here to view the PowerPoint outline of webinar. www.cmkmdiamondsinc.comThe primary topic of the webinar was the concept of CMKM/NHHI shareholders investing in our first oil/gas prospect in lieu of waiting on extended legal proceedings to provide the necessary capital to buy the assets. A tremendous amount of complex and detailed information was provided last night, and it is probably impossible for any attendee to grasp everything that was presented using the unsophisticated medium of a “free” PalTalk room. However, the meeting provided a starting point in the process of helping shareholders understand the concept, the risks and the upside. If the company proceeds with the concept, the investment offering would be structured under a Regulation D 504 offering, with the goal of raising a minimum of $50,000 in units of $1 each, limited to CMKM/NHHI shareholders only.
[/b]The Rule 504 offering would be structured as an equity deal, in which investors would receive a 50% stake in the oil venture, and NHHI would receive a 50% stake. Depending on the total amount raised and the asset purchased, the investors would receive monthly checks for their pro-rata share of the net profit for a 3 to 5 year period. When the investors have received their initial investment back, plus a substantial return on their investment, the ownership of their 50% stake would revert back to NHHI. The next step in this process is to get a preliminary idea of how much capital we can raise, with a minimum of $50,000 needed. Prior to any money being accepted, investors would receive a complete Private Placement Memorandum with spreadsheets, disclosures and disclaimers, and a subscription agreement. However, I need to get a better idea of how many dollars could be raised prior to spending the cash to generate a PPM and the necessary legal documentation. If you an interest in investing into NHHI’s first oil venture, please send me an e-mail to stevek@cmkmdiamondsinc.com, and please provide a preliminary idea of how much you might be willing to invest, pending further informational exchange. So far today, I have received numerous e-mails and have preliminary commitments of at least $17,500, which is a very encouraging number this early in the process. If we are unable to secure preliminary commitments of at least $50,000 prior to August 25, 2015, then we will simply wait until our legal proceedings play out to raise the necessary funding. However, if the preliminary commitments reach or exceed $50,000, then I will host another webinar on August 27, 2015 to more clearly define the opportunity. I look forward to hearing from you. Thank you. Steve Kirkpatrick Patience is not simply the ability to wait--it's how we behave while we're waiting. --JMeyer
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Post by portrush on Aug 27, 2015 11:35:08 GMT -5
I guess I'm just remembering what he said in the webinar...which was $1, but then he said it could be $10. Apparently I overlooked his decision when I posted this website reply. If the company pays the 10-15% interest on the investment its a lot better than a local bank savings account or CD can deliver. Aggressive, but it's not a ton of money overall based on a nominal investment of $1000 or less. You have to start somewhere though. It appears for the CMKM cert holder any advantage would come from what results the company might generate in profits from its O&G endeavors...apart from the investors who kick in the $50K he's looking for.
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Aug 27, 2015 11:43:31 GMT -5
I guess I'm just remembering what he said in the webinar...which was $1, but then he said it could be $10. Apparently I overlooked his decision when I posted this website reply. If the company pays the 10-15% interest on the investment its a lot better than a local bank savings account or CD can deliver. Aggressive, but it's not a ton of money overall based on a nominal investment of $1000 or less. You have to start somewhere though. It appears for the CMKM cert holder any advantage would come from what results the company might generate in profits from its O&G endeavors...apart from the investors who kick in the $50K he's looking for. pr He really didn't say what over all amount he received from the Shareholders to date. He was up to 17,000 the first day. With the price of oil and all the wells that are dried up.. I'll wait for the big pay-day. If that ever happens in our life time. God rest the souls of the good hearted shareholders who have died waiting..
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