Post by 2018 on Feb 21, 2016 12:20:48 GMT -5
of course it was, Explain why they would do it other wise.. I'm lost on your statement.. You help fund Gates to find out the truth and then you think you know the truth.. Come on Cat.. What's up with you..? I really think you like to stir up the pot.. Maybe you should have gotten voted off this board.. Sorry..
was a bad guy.
Ok I am glad you put out what you really think, bc I find it frustrating talking in circles and not really saying anything.
Ok .. I see now your opinion.
Now if you find that to be correct, did you read Stoeckleins deposition with SEC?
I actually made a thread on it. its named Stoecklein said.
For the sake of debate and testing every perspective on the subject.. how does your "opinion"/theory stack up when you include information in Donald Stoeckleins deposition with SEC?
imo, I would not agree with you. It does not stack up well.
You would have to be of conviction, as far as .. Donald stoecklein and obviously him being a legal council that Robert Maheu brought along with him in cmkx.. and then to Cmkx task force.. that both of them.. also include Bill Frizzell,
that all of them went as far as depositions with SEC to make up this farce .. to go along with farce only to aid the bad guys.
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You definitely have to include this in your consideration.
You can debate your conviction to what extent Urban was not perfect.. bad guy or ok guy. That is fine.
But you can not exclude everything else that was part of that Cert pull.
If this was lets say "crime scene" and you clearly see it that way, you can not limit your vision examination .. only to one person.. or your perception of one person.
We started this conversation with Cert pull. Now you have to consider everything and everybody .. that is part of that "crime scene".
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the interesting part for us as shareholders is, the fact that originally, we all made decisions on validity to pull the certs ourselves, on our perception, on reading material about the issue, other companies, and also what Acca was telling us cert pull was for, besides obviously, company telling us we needed to do it to participate in distribution, Entourage and Other Assets.
the Validation.. of what we talked about .. at least the idea we started with, came years after when we finally got to see Stoeckleins and others depositions with sec that happened in 2006. ( I think that year )
we never really much words spoken to shareholders from Stoecklein or maheu or even frizzell on the subject of Task force work and cert pull.
so getting the depositions was a big thing for me, and shareholders in general.