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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Oct 12, 2015 17:17:51 GMT -5
Just one more thing. Who ever thinks that Steve purchased this shell, you better think again. This shell was given to him to run. Bill.F and the team pull all the triggers. They are the ones who are going after Oil/Gas. I'm sure it's not Steve's call. Steve was told to keep the doors open and keep everyone from knocking at the door.. Oil and Gas makes people think about can or can't they make money. One has to think that after 10+ years. They are out to make money. So pay our due or get the squeeze.. I love my imagination.. JMHO
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Oct 12, 2015 17:24:10 GMT -5
Nothing for nothing but, you seem to always be in the past.. And you never seem to talk proof.. I can't make heads to tails with what you say.. You bring up Entourage shares and that was settled a long time ago. You bring up Kevin and Bill getting paid the shares that Steve said were put back and we all know that Kevin and Bill and took shares a long time ago. You don't make sense in what you post.. The doors are open because of what Iron Bob, Kevin and Bill did. The Cert pull was over a long time ago. No need to go there again. These guys are keeping the doors open for a reason.. You can't seem to understand that. We need to get all the shares that were put into the market given to people who didn't deserve them. Then we can trade again or they can pay us our dew without being put in the short box.. JMHO Sorry. What's wrong with being in the past and or remembering & discussing the past?? I know SK & some others would like nothing better than for the CMKX shareholders to forget the past (as they have told us so) ..... BUT .... isn't it, a fact, that the actions & events, from the past, are the one main cause..... with the one main effect, of yielding any $$$$$$$$ whatsoever to this entity NHHI?? I dunno...Put a wig on it, add lipstick call it any name you want ...but underneath, Little Sally Ann is still Little Sally Ann dragging behind all the baggage & musings that come with her... AKA "THE PAST" ?? "Family Trees" hold many secrets & answers that people search for. Sometimes, scary skeletons are uncovered and other times great riches or royal status is your reward for digging in and examining each and every leaf, on the tree. Without $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ from the CMKX past where will NHHI be going?? So far nowhere from what we have already experienced with ventures such as...Amazon & Amway. "To each their own".... but IMO, No need to forget the past, when the "PAST" is STILL playing such a MAJOR part, in this saga ?? Could prove to be that BECAUSE of "PAST Actions" & "PAST Events"... the loyal long time shareholders could possibly prevail. SORRY, the "PAST" is an important piece of the puzzle. Not to be forgotten. Just my 2 cents.. John, Could you please tell me where it was stated that SK said, that Kevin & Bill put back the shares they helped themselves to a few years back? Seems I missed that little tidbit or event. SINGLE I never said Kevin and Bill put the shares back. I'm very sure they worked very hard to get them. Please re-read it.. The past got us here. What about the past do we have to talk about now...? There is the past and then there is the past. Entourage is over, the Cert pull is over.. What do you want to talk about...?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Oct 12, 2015 17:40:45 GMT -5
"You bring up Kevin and Bill getting paid the shares that Steve said were put back and we all know that Kevin and Bill and took shares a long time ago." Guess I misunderstood this sentence.
Nothing bothers you, regarding the early actions, of the OG and Tyler crew which I always considered, "Red Flags'... ?? Hard to trust people who seemingly were involved, in unethical actions, that seemed to go against the shareholders....... secret meetings, dumping shares while pumping to the shareholders, Brewer Fiasco, NOYB tactics, Fattening portfolios and pockets... etc.
Too many to over look IMO..... ?? For me anyhow. I would like nothing better than to be proven wrong. For it to be proven that these seemingly self-enriching actions were indeed for the benefit of ALL shareholders !!
SINGLE
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Oct 12, 2015 18:14:12 GMT -5
"You bring up Kevin and Bill getting paid the shares that Steve said were put back and we all know that Kevin and Bill and took shares a long time ago."Guess I misunderstood this sentence. Nothing bothers you, regarding the early actions, of the OG and Tyler crew which I always considered, "Red Flags'... ?? Hard to trust people who seemingly were involved, in unethical actions, that seemed to go against the shareholders....... secret meetings, dumping shares while pumping to the shareholders, Brewer Fiasco, NOYB tactics, Fattening portfolios and pockets... etc. Too many to over look IMO..... ?? For me anyhow. I would like nothing better than to be proven wrong. For it to be proven that these seemingly self-enriching actions were indeed for the benefit of ALL shareholders !! SINGLE I was quoting this---- (3 hours ago p 2015 said:Except john they did not get retired. They got divided between the kevin frizzell and bod and others.) The only way to prove you right, is not to get paid.. That would mean Bill kept everything for himself. I don't think so, as pr said before, a " from IBM... I doubt that Ines. But I don't doubt that everyone who made money illegally from shareholders will be held accountable. What was it IBM said? Anyone who saw illegal gains from CMKX will live to see it taken back? I think that's what someone said he told them. If accurately stated, it will undoubtedly be unnerving for some, don't you think? pr
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Oct 12, 2015 18:26:23 GMT -5
Just one more thing. Who ever thinks that Steve purchased this shell, you better think again. This shell was given to him to run. Bill.F and the team pull all the triggers. They are the ones who are going after Oil/Gas. I'm sure it's not Steve's call. Steve was told to keep the doors open and keep everyone from knocking at the door.. Oil and Gas makes people think about can or can't they make money. One has to think that after 10+ years. They are out to make money. So pay our due or get the squeeze.. I love my imagination.. JMHO Nawwww .... I don't think many believe that Steve Kirkpatrick purchased this shell..... I have posted many times that it was stated as fact by SK, himself ....... that he was hired/brought on board and given a BLANK CONTRACT, to do with as he wished with .... Just another example IMO..... of Tyler NOT having the best interest, of the shareholders, at heart. I have always thought that BF was pulling the strings......No matter who came and went he remained as the constant. Problem is not liking the strings he has been pulling over the past so many years...... IMO..too many seemingly underhanded shenanigans. Some who have been involved (inside) with TYLER have managed to tell a tale that shines a not so bright light on them. Until proven that the company has been kept afloat for more than the insiders to enrich their pockets and portfolios I'll remain steady in my thoughts. I would gladly eat crow should it ..... come out, in the final chapter, of this saga, that in, fact, the ones I point fingers at and state no trust for ...indeed did have the best interest of ALL shareholders at heart... and ALL shareholders come out WINNERS !! Just not counting on it. Not from Tyler anyhow . JMO SINGLE
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Oct 12, 2015 18:56:16 GMT -5
Just one more thing. Who ever thinks that Steve purchased this shell, you better think again. This shell was given to him to run. Bill.F and the team pull all the triggers. They are the ones who are going after Oil/Gas. I'm sure it's not Steve's call. Steve was told to keep the doors open and keep everyone from knocking at the door.. Oil and Gas makes people think about can or can't they make money. One has to think that after 10+ years. They are out to make money. So pay our due or get the squeeze.. I love my imagination.. JMHO Nawwww .... I don't think many believe that Steve Kirkpatrick purchased this shell..... I have posted many times that it was stated as fact by SK, himself ....... that he was hired/brought on board and given a BLANK CONTRACT, to do with as he wished with .... Just another example IMO..... of Tyler NOT having the best interest, of the shareholders, at heart. I have always thought that BF was pulling the strings......No matter who came and went he remained as the constant. Problem is not liking the strings he has been pulling over the past so many years...... IMO..too many seemingly underhanded shenanigans. Some who have been involved (inside) with TYLER have managed to tell a tale that shines a not so bright light on them. Until proven that the company has been kept afloat for more than the insiders to enrich their pockets and portfolios I'll remain steady in my thoughts. I would gladly eat crow should it ..... come out, in the final chapter, of this saga, that in, fact, the ones I point fingers at and state no trust for ...indeed did have the best interest of ALL shareholders at heart... and ALL shareholders come out WINNERS !! Just not counting on it. Not from Tyler anyhow . JMO SINGLE Then why dose everyone blame him for getting into the Gas and oil business..? About the strings, you would rather have us de-listed forever. No one else wanted to stay.. About eating crow, heard that from way to many people in this stock, maybe Bill should have gone into the crow business. How was shopping today..?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Oct 12, 2015 21:19:32 GMT -5
Shopping as big a disappointment as CMKX.....lol lol, Thanks for asking !! Below, A Different story....from my own thoughts on the situation......I think of it as, Steve Kirkpatrick, being fed a picture of beautiful roses and delicious chocolates......But in actuality THEY took the opportunity to dump the whole mess, known as CMKX, square into his unsuspecting lap. And then..... Here's the story mixture ....... Steve was brought on as the new CEO...with a Blank contract...He being an alpha male, would take control and would not be a pushover for anyone. No one would influence him on what has/had to be done. At the beginning THEY promised him within a short period, of time, the Wells Fargo case would come to closure. I believe he took it literally, and didn't realize what the words "shortly" or "soon" meant here, in CMKX Land. We know of his disappointment, in regards to those promises as it was stated in an update or webinar?? The story told is that He (SK) was extremely unhappy with Bill Frizzell, as he thought Frizzell did not move fast enough on ANYTHING (Procrastinated). Word has it that SK supposedly gave or was to give Frizzell a timeline, to get moving, or he would take action and get rid of him. Must have lit a stick of dynamite under Frizzell's butt as we see He is STILL here. Although SK was not happy with the actions of any of the Tyler Crew or former BOD ....he says he could not worry about things from the past that he could do nothing about, but would give credit where credit was due. Still involved with Tyler AKA Frizzell et al.. So IF this story is true, then SK is his "own man"?? and makes ALL the decisions , on running, the company ?? ...including sole responsibility for getting involved with Amazon?? Amway?? And now years later, attempting to enter into the oil & gas business?? So which do you believe....... ?? Is it ?? Steve Kirkpatrick is a one man band?? Or is someone or a few someones ... pulling his strings?? Inquiring minds want to know....
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Oct 12, 2015 22:31:22 GMT -5
regulatory agencies would certainly be upfront and transparent if there was a huge nss its easy to get wrongdoers to pay up I doubt that Ines. But I don't doubt that everyone who made money illegally from shareholders will be held accountable. What was it IBM said? Anyone who saw illegal gains from CMKX will live to see it taken back? I think that's what someone said he told them. If accurately stated, it will undoubtedly be unnerving for some, don't you think? pr OK.... Quoted sentence, as well as all other points, on that list, are "Tongue in Cheek" remarks....correct?? So what's to doubt?? Am I missing the point here?? And, regarding ALL being held accountable ... I dunno, imo there is no way, in h$ll, ALL can or will happen, to the satisfaction of the shareholders. Too many had their dirty crooked fingers in the pot. Too many MADE SURE that THEY barely kept their unethical actions inside legal limits. Yet these unethical jerks, gained monetarily, just as those illegally did. There is very thin line between UNETHICAL and ILLEGAL. Where, when or how will the UNETHICAL receive their just due?? IMO.... Then and Only then will it be considered to have gotten THEM ALL. SINGLE
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Post by 2018 on Oct 12, 2015 22:35:41 GMT -5
What's wrong with being in the past and or remembering & discussing the past?? I know SK & some others would like nothing better than for the CMKX shareholders to forget the past (as they have told us so) ..... BUT .... isn't it, a fact, that the actions & events, from the past, are the one main cause..... with the one main effect, of yielding any $$$$$$$$ whatsoever to this entity NHHI?? I dunno...Put a wig on it, add lipstick call it any name you want ...but underneath, Little Sally Ann is still Little Sally Ann dragging behind all the baggage & musings that come with her... AKA "THE PAST" ?? "Family Trees" hold many secrets & answers that people search for. Sometimes, scary skeletons are uncovered and other times great riches or royal status is your reward for digging in and examining each and every leaf, on the tree. Without $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ from the CMKX past where will NHHI be going?? So far nowhere from what we have already experienced with ventures such as...Amazon & Amway. "To each their own".... but IMO, No need to forget the past, when the "PAST" is STILL playing such a MAJOR part, in this saga ?? Could prove to be that BECAUSE of "PAST Actions" & "PAST Events"... the loyal long time shareholders could possibly prevail. SORRY, the "PAST" is an important piece of the puzzle. Not to be forgotten. Just my 2 cents.. John, Could you please tell me where it was stated that SK said, that Kevin & Bill put back the shares they helped themselves to a few years back? Seems I missed that little tidbit or event. SINGLE I never said Kevin and Bill put the shares back. I'm very sure they worked very hard to get them. Please re-read it.. The past got us here. What about the past do we have to talk about now...? There is the past and then there is the past. Entourage is over, the Cert pull is over.. What do you want to talk about...? Divided up .. not retired. Exactly my post.
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Post by 3bid on Oct 12, 2015 22:51:31 GMT -5
A successful gas/oil business could eventually make possible a company sponsored racecar. But by then the fun would be limited to old technology reenactment because all high performance engines will be electric. A mismatch for sure, but still much better than feeling forever delisted.
Thoughts of a bored/board speculator. I really don't care what takes us to the moon or over the rainbow, as long as most of 'us' will make it there, ALIVE.
-3bid
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Post by portrush on Oct 12, 2015 23:28:05 GMT -5
I doubt that Ines. But I don't doubt that everyone who made money illegally from shareholders will be held accountable. What was it IBM said? Anyone who saw illegal gains from CMKX will live to see it taken back? I think that's what someone said he told them. If accurately stated, it will undoubtedly be unnerving for some, don't you think? pr OK.... Quoted sentence, as well as all other points, on that list, are "Tongue in Cheek" remarks....correct?? So what's to doubt?? Am I missing the point here?? And, regarding ALL being held accountable ... I dunno, imo there is no way, in h$ll, ALL can or will happen, to the satisfaction of the shareholders. Too many had their dirty crooked fingers in the pot. Too many MADE SURE that THEY barely kept their unethical actions inside legal limits. Yet these unethical jerks, gained monetarily, just as those illegally did. There is very thin line between UNETHICAL and ILLEGAL. Where, when or how will the UNETHICAL receive their just due?? IMO.... Then and Only then will it be considered to have gotten THEM ALL. SINGLE Yes, I believe you are. pr
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Post by portrush on Oct 12, 2015 23:30:33 GMT -5
Divided up .. not retired. Exactly my post. Can't verify it though, can you? pr
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Oct 13, 2015 6:08:03 GMT -5
So some think Bill and his team are here only to steal what we don't have. We have shares. They can't take them away from us, unless they split them. Or maybe close the doors. And that won't happen, because if ours split, so do theirs. If they close the doors all this very hard work goes away. A long time ago they could have said good bye. And we all wouldn't be here writing what we are writing. The same garbage day in and day out. I believe the company was left in good hands. 9) There are some CMKX shares out there that will be cancelled. It won’t make the company money short term, but there are 20-30 billion that need to be cancelled and restored to the Treasury because they weren’t paid for like most paid for theirs. I love that statement. Maybe it will make the company money long term if not short. My guess is that most seem to think that the Lawyers who are going overseas and also are doing the work of 30 men are doing it for nothing. Collections cost money.. Cost money for what they are doing. Do you really care about that...? Legal work cost money, a lot of money. Settlements cost money. Court cases cost money. Trying to find out who has a share that they paid for the right way and not given to them to pay off a debt of an insider or given to them as a promotion at a race track. Or given to workers who didn't do the work. 11 years doing this. You guys wanted them to go on with the NSS, and if they did, they had to account for every share and if need be go after them in court. This my friends IMO is where we are at now. God knows and the team knows how many shares Edwards and his team has stored away. Dirty shares. We need to get them out of the system. Not sure if Al sees a trust, but if he does and the trust is also waiting on the out come of the Edwards trial, then we will be OK. Maybe one will do away with the other. If we get the trust the Company goes away, if we don't get the trust, we trade squeeze box. One way or another we get something, and I said it before and I'll say it again. If the shares were paid into a trust once before, they won't want to pay on them again. Trust or Trade... This is JMHO here, take it as that. I am only a shareholder with my 11 years of opinions.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Oct 13, 2015 8:15:17 GMT -5
Worked very hard to get them?? From what I was told .... kevin West was the worse screw up amongst them all... that He mismanaged monies & actions beyond belief.. No business acumen whasoever. He left the bank account in worse shape than Urban Casavant did. What UC left a mere $558.00 in the account? Well the company was dumped into the lap of Steve Kirkpatrick with a $1.00 balance, in the account. For this they get rewarded?? BUT as we have seen, in the document, from the CMKM Meeting Minutes..... they sure seemed to set themselves up pretty...... Billions, Yeah, with a "B", compared to the normal CMKX shareholders holdings, of Millions.. Yeah with an "M".. Nice sharing thoughts & opinions..... Of course in CMKX Land, everybody has one.
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Oct 13, 2015 8:23:58 GMT -5
Worked very hard to get them?? From what I was told .... kevin West was the worse screw up amongst them all... that He mismanaged monies & actions beyond belief.. No business acumen whasoever. He left the bank account in worse shape than Urban Casavant did. What UC left a mere $558.00 in the account? Well the company was dumped into the lap of Steve Kirkpatrick with a $1.00 balance, in the account. For this they get rewarded?? BUT as we have seen, in the document, from the CMKM Meeting Minutes..... they sure seemed to set themselves up pretty...... Billions, Yeah, with a "B", compared to the normal CMKX shareholders holdings, of Millions.. Yeah with an "M".. Nice sharing thoughts & opinions..... Of course in CMKX Land, everybody has one. Kevin and Bill had a lot to work with.... $558.00. Steve (Sorry Bill) is lucky he got a dollar out of it.. Didn't they work together..? As far as Bill having a Billion + shares, again, I'm sure he worked hard for them and is still to this day is working hard for them. He will and is doing the right thing. But you don't want to hear that now do you..? We all live in a yellow submarine.. Coffee was real good this morning. Chocolate Donut Flavor. Yum.
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