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Post by soonerlew on Jun 29, 2007 21:43:32 GMT -5
By: my69z 29 Jun 2007, 05:47 PM EDT Msg. 568784 of 568800 Jump to msg. # i'am good with this,,,,except for no money/pps value of course,,but there's ALOT,,they didn't shoot down.....alot.
"New" CMKM started early this year,,,,,,think it'd been done by June/July with the old ?
no way & I said a long time ago,,,,,i'd be surprised to see larger than even 10B NSS released.And they don't seem like they're in too much a hurry to deal with it either.IMO,,,,,conditioning for a finale. I like it
and hey,,,,,,,isn't Sept riiiight bought the time the GF should be coming full circle???....once on books,,,,say another 2-3 weeks,,,,and 60 days after that is what?? hmmm
gltua, chris
By: my69z 29 Jun 2007, 06:42 PM EDT Msg. 341654 of 341655 Jump to msg. # " Management will provide quarterly updates ".....hmmm,,,sounds like they're doin what they said.....act like a professional company,,,,& that's what they do....operate/report on quaterly basis UNLESS,,, something before that next reporting deadline comes up.
Gltua, Chris
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 29, 2007 21:44:26 GMT -5
By: stockseekerok 29 Jun 2007, 05:34 PM EDT Msg. 568765 of 568802 (This msg. is a reply to 568760 by bulletgirlny.) Jump to msg. # silver- sometimes I have to check my wires to be sure. LOL How you been girl ? I still want to get paid , but I am not holding my breath if that is what you are wondering.
I have been through to many years of x-mas in July , next week, next month,
I am just watching what I can verify, as for the rest I would believe Gary Walters over any of these Guru's spewing out rumors. - - - - -
By: bulletgirlny 29 Jun 2007, 05:38 PM EDT Msg. 568770 of 568802 (This msg. is a reply to 568765 by stockseekerok.) Jump to msg. # alvin,
I am good and really beleive the goods are all under ASSET PROTECTION for us and this whole fiasco is mostly smoke and mirrors that smoke will pass and we will see clearer very soon.
p.s. Do you still have that post with can am? etc..... ucad nevada minerals etc.. the whole big post you wrote on yahoo? if so pass it here tia
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 29, 2007 21:44:57 GMT -5
By: harmonre 29 Jun 2007, 03:08 PM EDT Msg. 23951 of 23955 (This msg. is a reply to 23939 by _nathanial.) Jump to msg. # Mr. Stoecklein has continued to hold the Entourage certificate in his possession.
Hummmmmmmm..............Our only thing of "VALUE" and Kevin doesn't have it....
Trust the Team!
Happy 4th of July.
Harm
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 29, 2007 22:02:19 GMT -5
By: rleggett1945 29 Jun 2007, 08:56 PM EDT Msg. 568883 of 568912 Jump to msg. # Everybody has an opinion about what is going on...however nobody has any facts (except maybe abgg and bhollen). There are many different scenarios that could be in play at this time regarding cmkx...I would just like to share my thoughts about one possible scenario from the many. It is void of a great level of detail to keep it understandable and is totally my opinion based on what I see and read. It is possible that the Govt and CMKM have agreed to a series of events to bring final resolution to the issue of naked shorts, including needed govt reform and financial renumeration to the damaged shareholders. Thus, perhaps the court case filed by CMKM is being used both by the Govt and CMKM as the initial step to implementing resolution. Looking from the govt side, they can not allow the extent of the market problems associated with naked shorting to become public knowledge...for the result could be quite devastating to our financial system, as we all know. (The naked shorting links would probably include significant domestic fraud and involvement by international terrorism groups) Thus, if I were the Govt, I would require that CMKM, more specifically Urban, remove himself from the limelight as "savior of the system", downplay the magnitude of the problem, and initiate a series of events that would allow the Government...especially the SEC...look as if it were willing and able to identify and resolve all outstanding problems/issues in the stock market and remain the trusted protector of the investor. It is important to our system they achieve this! As part of the settlement agreement, I would also guess that the Govt and the DTCC have a payment scheduled for cmkx shareholders and that the brokers probably contributed to a trust fund currently being guarded by Mr. Maheu. Now, if I were CMKM, I would probably agree to the following: that in conjunction with the implementation of the above mentioned steps by the Govt, CMKM would initiate actions to downplay Urban's abilities as CEO and cause events to occur that would question the legality of his actions in the early years of CMKX's share structure. However, in order to "believe but verify" the government's commitment to carrying out the terms of the agreement in a timely manner, I would suggest that CMKM would require that the "downfall" of Urban be achieved through the courts system. Why? Because, it gives credibility to the charges (good for the govt's side), and it would more importantly allow CMKM to hold a hammer over the Govt's head in the event the Govt (heaven forbid) reneged on or tried to alter the agreement. If the Govt did attempt such foolishness, Mr. Casavant would be miraculously found and "served" and legally allowed to "tell all" about who owns the majority of shares in the company, the extent of the naked shorting (over 2 trillion shares), where the company's operating funds came from, and what steps he had taken to protect the shareholders....including the possibility of significant monetary assets in a trust under the protection of Mr. Maheu, the retention of the Entourage shares by Mr. Stocklein, and the protection of mineral assets by Mr. Koch. Once the agreement is fully carried out, I would think the case against Urban would be quietly dismissed. For CMKM to carry out their part of the bargain, KW, BF and MF were probably chosen to try and convince the shareholders and other interested parties, that Urban was the bad guy! Now the interesting part of their approach is the limited audience they are addressing...primarily those on the internet. They even bought an internet radio station though TOGI to spread their new revelations. Now it is possible that in order to be convincing, the mouthpiece for the TOGI, MF, was shown limited info and could very well believe that Urban is the bad guy. Otherwise, he would be an excellent actor. Regardless, it kind of backfired on them because of the loyalty amongst the shareholders toward Urban. But their efforts have partially achieved their purpose by causing many shareholders to question what really is the truth...thus, taking a lot of the hype out of the boards and chat rooms. If this scenario is true, then KW, BF and MF have a job to do and they cannot at this time, probably per agreement, let out anything they know to the contrary (and I don't know the extent of their knowledge of the process). If this scenario is correct, then be gentle with them. If not correct, then you don't have to be gentle with them. It is also my opinion that the agreement process is being implemented as we speak because: 1) the Grandfather Clause is being removed, 2) a new market trading system is being implemented and regulatory sections are being modified to significantly limit/remove naked shorting from the trading process, 3) Urban has not been served to appear in court (big gun in reserve), and 4) the information coming from the New CMKM is less and less...and updates are now to be on a quarterly basis...ie., sitting by and watching the agreement being implemented but remaining alert in case of a "call to arms". (It should be noted that the CMKM lawyers will still aggressively pursue actions against Edwards and others.) Regarding the monetary side, BF stated in the latest update that "The rumors of payouts and huge trust funds are not supported by the records being examined by Kevin, the accountants and the attorneys." That is probably absolutely correct as stated! But that does not include the possibility of Mr. Maheu guarding a trust fund of substantial assets or the possibility of SEC/DTCC distribution plans for cmkx shareholders. Love ya Mona!! Roberto ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=568883
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 29, 2007 22:37:38 GMT -5
By: cmkxdiamonds 29 Jun 2007, 08:59 PM EDT Msg. 568884 of 568907 (This msg. is a reply to 568882 by my69z.) Jump to msg. # hey chris your dead on with that post...its all in the wording....
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29 Jun 2007, 10:00 PM EDT Msg. 568907 of 568907 (This msg. is a reply to 568884 by cmkxdiamonds.) Jump to msg. # Cmkx,,,,,and they just introduced the SEC into our "civil" matter.
were movin along
Gltu, Chris
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 30, 2007 0:15:57 GMT -5
By: my69z 29 Jun 2007, 08:55 PM EDT Msg. 341656 of 341659 Jump to msg. # ...Re: Todays Pr...
" A full and complete response by the company requires information which we are seeking at this time through the Courts. I have discussed this matter with the SEC and I am confident the company can make a full and complete response in cooperation with the SEC. "
what?...."in cooperation with",,,,,,now they're helpin us reply to THEM? LOL
But like i've said,,,,,kinda ironic we praised/thanked them AND made an excuse for'em not enforcing our problems in our legal doc.
cooperation
Sounds to me like the ground work for,,,,hey SEC look at what we've uncovered,,,,,,securities fraud. ( after all,,,,we THANKED the SEC for giving Frizz docs from the hearing and without'em,,,,CMKX wouldn't have the data to bring "this suit" )
But oh yeah,,,,,,the SEC ----- hey yeah CMKX,,,this all looks illegal....better turn this over to people with the cuffs.
" The Entourage and interpleader situation is undergoing extensive review and discussion. "
Now Entg is a situation?....LOL,,,one mo again,,,,,,IMO...itz talk of working a deal wit'em...look at the "dispute" between Entg and Ed now. ( imagine that )
5-11-07: " I have been visiting with experts about the Entourage claims and the core samples which I have personally examined. I will report to you any plans regarding these assets when I have something definitive to discuss with you. "
THIS,,,,and the O/S are the ONLY thing people need to be concerned with.And by the way,,,,the most important thing from our "civil",,,,isn't about recouping monies nowhere near as much as it is......being authorized to clean up the O/S
" sterlization of stock"
Gltua,
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 30, 2007 0:53:03 GMT -5
faulkingtruth The Faulking Editor member is offline Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 163 Re: CEO update 6/29-Bill Frizzell « Reply #12 on Yesterday at 3:19pm »
You're not missing anything, but you're assuming that the IRS isn't all over the former officers, etc. of the company. They're one of the branches who have been investigating this for quite some time.
Why no one has been indicted and/or arrested is another question altogether....and one I've been trying to get answers to.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 30, 2007 2:18:44 GMT -5
ShowMeTheMoney DIAMOND JEDI
Re: CEO/BF Update 2007-Jun-29 « Reply #35 on Yesterday at 10:59am »
The CEO Update is the best we've had to date no doubt... but also opens up many more questions. The following quote, imo, is most interesting:
Quote:The Entourage and interpleader situation is undergoing extensive review and discussion. Mr. West has not yet received any files from previous Company attorneys regarding work that was done on the interpleader. Mr. Stoecklein has continued to hold the Entourage certificate in his possession. Please follow the company website for developments.
Now, I can see those attorneys who represent Urban directly not wanting to give out personal records without a court order. But presumably, these are company records they are talking about. Also, it seems pretty clear that Bill and Kevin have asked Mr. Stoecklein to turn over the Entourage Certificate. What legal basis does Mr. Stoecklein have to hold on to this Certificate since he is no longer employed by CMKX?
The fact that he hasn't tuned the cert over to Kevin and Bill seems to indicate to me that Mr. Stoecklein doesn't think Kevin and Bill have the right to control that document. Does that also mean Mr. Stoecklein questions the authority of Kevin and Bill to act on behalf of the company?
I don't think we know all the facts yet... that's for sure. - Show
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 30, 2007 2:27:40 GMT -5
ocd DIAMOND JEDI Re: CEO/BF Update 2007-Jun-29 « Reply #51 on Yesterday at 11:54am »
Frizzel said"
Quote:"Although the company is continuing its investigation into the problem of identifying its bonafide shareholders," I'm on the record for calling this BS and here's why. If everything is as it seems then you guys have the certs and we are the bonafides...duh. So if you're saying you can't figure that part out how can I think you can figure complicated banking records out?
Quote:The rumors of payouts and huge trust funds are not supported by the records being examined by Kevin, the accountants and the attorneys. Have you looked at all the records? You can't even identify the bonafide shareholders?
Well, I could've been wrong in thinking these guys were on Urban's team. Looks like the Friz is trying to make a name for himself in typical ambulance chasing attorney fashion. Time to place an injunction on his butt and settle him down!
I did like the part where the other attornies are not cooperating with him...wonder why?
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Post by tec1958 on Jun 30, 2007 10:09:28 GMT -5
Does this deserve a rational, well thought out response?
By: CHICPICK 30 Jun 2007, 10:48 AM EDT Msg. 569038 of 569047 (This msg. is a reply to 569018 by oil.ipo.) Jump to msg. # oil.ipo, I know that the date on your post should have read June 27. That being said, how will you feel when the 4th., comes and goes and nothing comes to pass? If we are to believe ACCA, something BIG has to explode here on Mon., or Tues. That idiot has never been right, and I would give a million to one odds that his record continues. The man is a lying scumbag. He's a heartless rat bashturd who cares not a bit about the desperate shareholders who are hanging on by a hair.
Msg. 569018 of 569029 (Msg. is a reply to by None.) International 500 Room July 27, 2007
Momike asks; "Acca I'd like to ask you a question... maybe from a different viewpoint. We've heard ah stories, not stories but real life testimonials about people who are losing their homes, or the verge of it... people who are ill, need treatments, people who have loved ones that are dying...I don't mean to be morbid, but I would ask you this...could you.., do you feel that you could look those people in the eye tonight and say to them with the utmost confidence hanggg.. on because by the forth of JULY I think a lot of your problems are gonna go away, and be solved .. can you honestly do that?"
Acca responds; "ABSOLUTELY, I'd look um straight in the eye and say that to um . Absolutely..., Absolutely I would do that.."
IF ACCA DOESN'T LOSE EVERY ON OF HIS FOLLOWERS JULY 5, 2007, THE ONES THAT REMAIN SHOULD BE CONSIDERED TOTALY INSANE. HIS NEXT EXCUSE WILL BE ANOTHER DELAY. THE 100TH., ONE. I AM WAITING TO SEE HOW YOU HANDLE THE NEXT EXCUSE AFTER ACCA SAID:
Acca responds; "ABSOLUTELY, I'd look um straight in the eye and say that to um . Absolutely..., Absolutely I would do that..
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 30, 2007 10:10:55 GMT -5
By: jabberjaw521 29 Jun 2007, 07:31 PM EDT Msg. 23958 of 23989 (This msg. is a reply to 23948 by sportsman93306.) Jump to msg. # sportsman93306, not meaning to take sides in your post to MIKE777, but take a look at the last few sentences in the third paragraph it's kind of worded funny..
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX(start):
"There is not a set of books from 2002 through the present date. We will eventually obtain (all) the records necessary to have an audited set of books. I can give you no specific date when this process will conclude. The work is ongoing daily. This is the first and most important step to a return to trading by the company. The rumors of payouts and huge trust funds are not supported by the records being examined by Kevin, the accountants and the attorneys."
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX(end)...
The (last sentence) is accurate if you read the previous sentences as it is worded.. Maybe they just (aren't) going to say anything about the rumors of payouts and huge trust funds until everything else is in order first, or maybe they just haven't gotten to that point yet..
It simply says these rumors aren't being supported by the records being examined now.. What it (doesn't say) is: (No) payouts or hugh trust funds..
It also says: "We will eventually obtain (all the records) necessary to have an audited set of books." Maybe at that point we will find out if there is a payout or not..!!
Maybe I'm just reading more into this than most, but I think "MUM's" the word until this is all sorted out to the last detail..!! We just have to wait until this story unfolds.. Hopefully that will be sooner than later..
Respectfully,
Jab
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 30, 2007 10:11:39 GMT -5
By: dennissullenger 29 Jun 2007, 08:17 PM EDT Msg. 23960 of 23989 (This msg. is a reply to 23958 by jabberjaw521.) Jump to msg. # Jabb..I am neither a devotee of Acca or Jay Adobe (or the 'dark side' either)..so with that disclaimer proffered..I cannot imagine a more 'weasel worded' update from someone(s)allegedly proficient in the English language. How about just stating 'There is not any payout now or ever coming from the NSS, any trusts, hidden assets, individuals in any way shape or form...'...You get the picture, I'm sure.. And then, 'there are no records available'.. but next.. 'we are compiling same so as to get back to trading'...This update says a whole lotta nothing with loopholes the size of an 'oreo' in it. More akin to 'filler' than anything else. Nebulous, ambiguous, intractable, unprofessional and without clear substance/meaning. Sheesh, my fifth grade teacher would have taken me to the wood shed if I presented her with such a 'communication'. Crikey, James Joyce was more lucid. If this slipshod communique isn't intentional, then we are in for a very rocky ride, indeed. Or maybe our 'packet' will include a decoder ring. go cmkx em dennis - - - - -
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 30, 2007 10:12:20 GMT -5
By: oil.ipo 30 Jun 2007, 09:39 AM EDT Msg. 569018 of 569027 Jump to msg. # International 500 Room June 27, 2007
Momike asks; "Acca I'd like to ask you a question... maybe from a different viewpoint. We've heard ah stories, not stories but real life testimonials about people who are losing their homes, or the verge of it... people who are ill, need treatments, people who have loved ones that are dying...I don't mean to be morbid, but I would ask you this...could you.., do you feel that you could look those people in the eye tonight and say to them with the utmost confidence hanggg.. on because by the forth of JULY I think a lot of your problems are gonna go away, and be solved .. can you honestly do that?"
Acca responds; "ABSOLUTELY, I'd look um straight in the eye and say that to um . Absolutely..., Absolutely I would do that.."
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 30, 2007 10:12:52 GMT -5
By: ravenpeach1 30 Jun 2007, 10:04 AM EDT Msg. 23989 of 23989 (This msg. is a reply to 23949 by nascent_vindication.) Jump to msg. # Nascent....
You probably said that jokingly.... but I reread it several times....
You know....
Quarterly updates and Yearly updates are done by companies.... active companies.... is that the clue.... Quarterly.....
Well, just a thought for today... I am ready to except my package anytime.... So many companies have reported things this week, that surround our little ole' stock in land, claims, and all the rest ....
Sounds great to me..... this little ole' stock, revoked, and standing up to the likes of some big ones....makes you wonder.....
I have no doubt that I feel good about my investment.
There is no way the course of time, events, and this many shareholders are all a coinsidence.....
I will stand firm and wait.... I just hope for all of us..... this wait will come to an end and the light is clear at the end of the tunnel....
Looking back will be enjoyed one day...... because the time will have been worth it, IMHO... And I hope that we all have enjoyed this education that we have received from the best.....and I mean THE BEST TEACHER ever!
God Bless
Ravenpeach
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 30, 2007 15:04:49 GMT -5
By: oil.ipo 30 Jun 2007, 03:18 PM EDT Msg. 569226 of 569229 Jump to msg. # There would be no reason for Acca or anyone else working this campaign to mislead people in need/sick, etc., people so desperate that when asked (Acca) point blank "Would you look them in the eye and promise them closure by the 4th of July?" (in so many words), and then Acca answering in the affirmative with no pause ... "absolutely"..(3x)
Did Acca step out of the misinformation box, and extend "that closure" probability with complete honesty? Sensitivity? Timing?
Remember that question could just as easily been answered like all the time line questions. With an open end attached, or not at all. Why did Acca do what he did here?
I sure am not attaching any negative connotation by presenting it. No need to. Time is attached.
I know what you all are thinking.
Let's watch this week.
Oil
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