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Post by JoeRockss on Oct 5, 2007 16:06:16 GMT -5
By: oil.ipo 05 Oct 2007, 11:23 AM EDT Msg. 610418 of 610418 Jump to msg. # The Phantom shares were the concession that bought Bona Fides what will be their restitution IMHO. No way the market could have supported covering that huge of a Naked Short in the first place, and CMKM, and its Shareholder base had to come to terms with righting this monumental wrong, while helping mitigate such massive corruption. So in reality if Bona Fide Shareholders were entitled to receive damages then the presence of the "imminent" filing of an Interpleader Action was merely a ploy to pressure brokers in reality, and nothing more. IMHO2
Electronic shares are considered a market settlement IMHO.
Phantom shares which represented financial terrorism against CMKM initially, ended up being turned upon the same criminals as the ultimate bargaining chip/weapon in the final days to leverage the entire market restructuring process. Such surreal trading activity as experienced by CMKX volume was not supported by the corresponding accounting/trading recipients, and this was the lock for fines and doing serious time.
I feel that a negotiated settlement was struck early on as evidenced by the mandated presence of certificates-based on something that physically could not be handled by its perpetrators later on- Phantom shares, and penalties and interest . The time bought by CMKM helped pave the way for a market wide settlement that we are hearing about today.
With all considered we can only hope and pray that these men that we hold with such high esteem would have CMKM shareholders paid first for not only their participation in this campaign, but the use of the shareholders to pass information onto "others" that was not meant for them in the first place. Do we need to ignore the reality of the price paid by the shareholders, and all that shareholders endured which was so far beyond the scope of their customary obligations as investors? They did their part.
AIMHO
Mega/Oil
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Post by cmkxaholic on Oct 5, 2007 16:51:11 GMT -5
royalstarofthelion: The New York source ... we could see something the weekend , perhaps today , he is waiting to here more today . Something big happened on the 27th of Sept . that could facilitate and end to all this , the outcome of which he is waiting to here ......
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Post by JoeRockss on Oct 5, 2007 17:37:43 GMT -5
jay_adobe 05 Oct 2007, 05:57 PM EDT Msg. 610534 of 610538 (This msg. is a reply to 610494 by justmoby.) Jump to msg. # justmoby, Hang in there. Either you are in or not. Either you know what you know you know or not. It's too late to bring you up to speed. The bus is moving on down the road. I've already gotten all the t-shirts. Might be some new ones later on. Hang in there and be kind to your fellow shareholders. Life is good, really good.
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Post by JoeRockss on Oct 5, 2007 23:08:57 GMT -5
By: mike777 05 Oct 2007, 06:15 PM EDT Msg. 610538 of 610538 (This msg. is a reply to 610418 by oil.ipo.) Jump to msg. # Oil.Ipo :
Brilliantly stated with finesse and punctuated with what can only be construed as an astute investor observation and the most logical statement.
I differ only slightly with the Interplead which I believe was done, and sealed, and not available to the public. It's purpose all for identifying all who are not bonafide and do not get paid... thereby even eliminating bad insiders and their attempts to profit and gain.
Now if the funds collected and kept in trusts could just be released and the freeze taken off them, we could proceed as a comglomerate formation and later IPO CIM. I wonder who has kept these funds frozen for so long? Hmmmm...
All in my humble opinion.
Mike777
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Post by JoeRockss on Oct 5, 2007 23:09:13 GMT -5
tramp Administrator *****
Re: gossip 10/5/07 « Reply #6 on Today at 6:26pm »
cinderfella123: there was a closed SEC meeting on the 27th
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Post by JoeRockss on Oct 5, 2007 23:09:33 GMT -5
By: klonopin2mg 05 Oct 2007, 07:51 PM EDT Msg. 610571 of 610578 (This msg. is a reply to 610543 by sportsman93306.) Jump to msg. # sportsman', lol. and another..WHY?
read the following and refer me to my post your refering to....i'm sure you've done some research. i'm sure i can answer to any of my posts as i never intend to mislead. tia
and who would my source be sir? i've been very clear that my posts are opinions based on dd, common sense and logic ........
coming from a GROUP...
don't confuse the truth....
i still say without doubt that the people owning legally bonafide shares will see a "good outcome". it doesn't matter to me if you believe or not, nothing can change the outcome. it is what it is...
and i wait like everyone else...
am i wrong for that opinion, is it inacurate?
i don't think so... i don't think so...
EVERYONE ENJOY THE WEEKEND!
peace,
cb from the atl and fwiw one of my sources was over there in TX who i do not trust any longer. i will support him regardless....i stick with information, logic and reason from many. no room in my life for gossip and rumor......especially from a freakin MB!
life's short, ENJOY LIFE NOW!!! this comes from someone who has had a horrible year with death in my family, huge financial losses and more i wish not to share on a public forum.e
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Post by hundredtoone on Oct 6, 2007 8:57:10 GMT -5
Poof Update #2 : October 5, 2007 October 05, 2007 "Poofness" "Poofness" is an [glow=red,2,300]Omega[/glow] person. His information may or may not apply to the Dotson Project. Question to "Poofness": Hi Poof, I really like to read your reports. Gives me hope for the future. I am out of work, after a double bypass, and have run out of unemployment pay. I am in Canada and wonder why all the interference from GW is affecting us up here. It always sounds li ke we are there, but it is like the carrot on a stick in front of the donkey. We never can reach it. I do try to remain positive as that is my nature. A few more encouraging words from you would really help. Thank you From xxxxxx Response from "Poofness": This has always been in the hands of Brussels and Brussels wants the new banking system online now. These programs are the gears and grease that swing it into position. Junior thought he had a say in it and Brussels let him know he didn't. You'll see your packy most any moment now. p Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 06:34:05 -0700 TO POOF................ Hey Poof! I am hearing from my sources that the downpour will be fri-sat-sun and to the bank on monday, but monday is a holiday, any input you like to share with us? FROM POOF.................. I know that brussels has ordered the finish and from today on folks need to be paying attention. They want that new banking system online in the americas and it's not up for negotiation. p > TO POOF................Hey Poof! I am hearing from my sources that the downpour will be very soon. Another Comment:I am hearing that delivery could very well be Tuesday, Wednesday. FROM POOF..................I know that brussels has ordered the finish and from today on folks need to be paying attention. They want that new banking system online in the americas and it's not up for negotiation. p www.fourwinds10.com/NewsServer/ArticleFunctions/ArticleDetails.php?ArticleID=17868...Flying Moose(cmkxunofficial)
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Post by cmkxaholic on Oct 6, 2007 10:40:23 GMT -5
Those poof and casper updates have nothing to do with us. why are you constantly posting up that crap?
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Post by soonerlew on Oct 6, 2007 11:00:30 GMT -5
By: huckfinnn 06 Oct 2007, 01:03 AM EDT Msg. 610635 of 610654 Jump to msg. # sneak preview imo............................................................
Record Date Payable Date Per Share
October 15, 2007 October 31, 2007 $0.205 November 15, 2007 November 30, 2007 $0.205 December 14, 2007 December 31, 2007 $0.205
By: klonopin2mg 06 Oct 2007, 08:42 AM EDT Msg. 610650 of 610654 (This msg. is a reply to 610635 by huckfinnn.) Jump to msg. # huckfin'.....
many have seen those number's, sure would be nice to be able to tie those in........haven't found a shred of info that does so....
look at the sharestructure....it doesn't make sense to me trying to be logical, but those dates make sense.
15th, not far away, that's the date i like as a logical start.
only thing is.....i don't think there's any possible way that we'll see anything on this board, but that's just my opinion.
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Post by soonerlew on Oct 6, 2007 11:01:22 GMT -5
By: oil.ipo
06 Oct 2007, 11:20 AM EDT Msg. 610668 of 610679 (This msg. is a reply to 610538 by mike777.) Jump to msg. #
Mike777- that remains the Million dollar bonus answer. When? One can only focus on all of the positive aspects that fluid assets would bring the capital markets. Not that these shareholders would rush the gates nor would ever need to again once a check was cashed. We do ask though, why the delay to starting it all? Past this month?? Really shouldn't be if we are seeing an overhauling of our trading platforms/systems.
Also, Big business can only wait so long and this has been the speculation of Longs. Got to clean up the short first though, and not just by working the balance sheets. None of this Conglomerate discussion works with time running on, and on, for CMKM, and its large overdue shareholder base.
As was thought if anyone is going to see any distribution of damages from any funds (beyond a relief payment) surely it would be the CMKM shareholders first in line. It is a no brainer.
I much prefer metal backed currency also, but this restitution payment is the one thing that the Bush Administration can do right, and during their tenure-IMHO. Kind of like the last thing that Americans can remember about his Presidency that made sense that did not involve bloodshed. It must coincide with market reform to fit circumstances in Legislation, and with other expenditures that are long overdue and expected i.e.; Farmers Mtgs. etc.
Btw-You are an icon to many of the shareholders for good reasons. Your place is unique, and not to be shadowed by the stupidity of the ugly. You made listeners out of bad guys IMHO, and ordinary shareholders like me learned a lot. This seems like the time to be a CMKM shareholder and alert.
Also, I feel that Wodan's old man is significant and so was his trip back home.
JMHO-2
Mega/Oil
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Post by soonerlew on Oct 6, 2007 11:04:40 GMT -5
Re: Gossip Discussion 10/6/07 « Reply #6 on Today at 9:49am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- thanks goes to judy cline.. and the rest of the DD shareholders.. Judy cline got this in a email.. « Thread Started on Today at 8:32am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- camrhon.proboards102.com/index.cgi?board=safe&action=display&thread=1191679346I just received this in an email........ Effective Friday, October 5, 2007, NYSE Arca will reject all Sell Short Exempt (SSE) Orders in accordance with the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) mandate. This action is designed to address the issues surrounding "naked" short selling. Please contact your NYSE Relationship Representative or the NYSE Arca Trade Support Desk at 888.513.9873, if you have any additional questions. ***Edit... this email was sent to all members who have their systems. from sandi.. sarge_66: tinyurl.com/235rgcNYSE Short Interest - May be something to watch -------- this is getting better.. read goldman sach's.. Wingsbeneathme: Judy, here is a memo re short sell exempt, eff October 5, 2007, Goldman Sachs...... www.redi.com/forms/SSEmemo.pdftravelbugaz: Regulation SHO Data contains data related to SEC Regulation SHO per the terms of the SRO requirements. Available as a stand alone product or to TAQ users for no additional fee. In response to SEC Regulation SHO, travelbugaz: SRO's must make Short Sale transactions data available on a monthly basis for trade dates beginning January 2005 through the pilot period ending April 2006. travelbugaz: NYSE has released it's Short Sale data to users of NYSE historical Trades & Quotes ("TAQ") at no additional fee --------- Wingsbeneathme: memo was to Goldman Sachs Clearing --------------- jcline1: Clients are reminded of the SEC’s recent revisions to Regulation SHO which, among other things, eliminated the “sell short exempt” order type. Accordingly, on or before October 5th, 2007, “sell short exempt” (SSE) will no longer be available on REDI jcline1: Effective October 8, 2007, all sales must be marked as either "sell long" or "sell short". Rule 200(g) of Regulation SHO requires an order to be marked “sell long” only if the seller is deemed to own the security and either the security is in the physical possession or control of the broker-dealer jcline1: or it is reasonably expected that the security will be in the physical possession or control no later than the settlement date. ------- Wingsbeneathme: it might be a good idea to post the link to the" SEC FINAL RULE" that they put in that memo sec.gov/rules/final/2007/34-55970.pdf---- and its timing.. timing is everything..
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Post by soonerlew on Oct 6, 2007 13:09:32 GMT -5
By: harley_man0 06 Oct 2007, 08:22 AM EDT Msg. 610646 of 610723 (This msg. is a reply to 610559 by dude.o.rama.) Jump to msg. # solil mikey claims the interplead is done? did someone forget to tell lil mikey that ETGMF has sued CMKX and 101047025 Saskatchewan Ltd for the return of the 45.000.000 soon-to-be-worthless shares? www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1239672/000113717107001173/materialchange.htmHarley: Yes, and that's a good thing... what happens if and when the 45m shares go back to Entourage??? That means the deal's off, and the claims revert back to CMKX... can we say suddenly Valuation? Hmmmm? Ask yourself also why have those claims not been mined aggressively? Would that not propel Entourage's value far above what it is now? Are they holding back for reason? Kevin West can also say whatever he likes because he manages not the same CMKX which involves Urban, Maheu, and others. Check the filing for the companies carefully. If you find they are different, then why two companies with similar names? Can we not say Maheu Magic? Everyone including the bad guys harp on the obvious, they will never see beyond the forest beyond the trees. It was set up like that for a reason. All IMHO. Try being on the side that investigates intelligently your own investment rather than trashing it and the people behind it trying to get you your due. The game is far from dead. Those who bash professionally for pay would have your believe that. In fact, the game of the dark side is to make you believe OVER and OVER again it's coming tomorrow, so when it doesn't you eventually walk away from psychologically being let down repeatedly. Don't fall for that crap. It's easy for "them" to hold our money and skim the interest, they have plenty of time to live high on the hog at our expense. Remember the primary reasons for holding it are not Market cleanups and further legislative progress with the SEC rules, it's more GREED and FEAR as I have stated before. Stay together.. stay united, even if you hold and you disbelieve, STAY TOGETHER AND FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT. Thank you for reading and thank you for listening. Good luck to you Harley and your family. Regards, Mike777 IMO.
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Post by soonerlew on Oct 6, 2007 13:10:02 GMT -5
By: goodolboy27 06 Oct 2007, 01:07 PM EDT Msg. 610709 of 610724 (This msg. is a reply to 610703 by mike777.) Jump to msg. # mike777, wrong... You need to reread that agrement. A default by CMKM cause us to lose both.
By: mike777 06 Oct 2007, 01:11 PM EDT Msg. 610712 of 610724 (This msg. is a reply to 610709 by goodolboy27.) Jump to msg. # Well respectfully mr. goodolboy27:
I think we'll have to wait it out to the 31st and see the Manitoba decision then. Yes?
Best of luck to you if you hold.
Remember it's easiest to be mad at the situation... and bash. It's harder to support what you know from other supporting issues, to sustain and believe it will happen in our favor.
So if you haven't put all the facts together, and you still own, you will be rewarded anyway when it finally plays out. How can anyone think something this big could be held back forever? We must be compensated first for the company, and companies IMO to MOVE FORWARD with the conglomerates, and IPO's.
I hope you weather the storm okay.
Sincerely,
Mike777
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Post by soonerlew on Oct 6, 2007 17:03:18 GMT -5
By: pickleman77360640 06 Oct 2007, 12:09 PM EDT Msg. 610687 of 610754 (This msg. is a reply to 610642 by huckfinnn.) Jump to msg. # huckfinnn: Please post the link you are obtaining this from. tia pickleman773 (Voluntary Disclosure: Position- Long) - - - - - By: jay_adobe 06 Oct 2007, 12:48 PM EDT Msg. 610699 of 610752 Jump to msg. # pickleman, Here you go: http: //news. moneycentral. msn. com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?Feed=BW&Date=20070927&ID=7542573 tinyurl.com/2dt3xz- - - - - By: elvis-is-here 06 Oct 2007, 02:17 PM EDT Msg. 610746 of 610752 (This msg. is a reply to 610699 by jay_adobe.) Jump to msg. # It should be noted that the distributions made pursuant to this policy are not tied to the Fund's investment income or capital gains and do not represent yield or investment return on the Fund's portfolio. - - - - - By: gusjarvis 06 Oct 2007, 02:39 PM EDT Msg. 610751 of 610752 (This msg. is a reply to 610746 by elvis-is-here.) Jump to msg. # just plain weird hey elvis, by the way how are you my friend, it appears very close for real now hey. cheers
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Post by soonerlew on Oct 6, 2007 17:04:57 GMT -5
ANybody care to explain what this would mean to us.......
It should be noted that the distributions made pursuant to this policy are not tied to the Fund's investment income or capital gains and do not represent yield or investment return on the Fund's portfolio.
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