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Post by soonerlew on Nov 6, 2007 21:11:25 GMT -5
ming117 Junior Miner tramp2.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1194398072By: elvis-is-here 06 Nov 2007, 12:36 PM EST Msg. 621554 of 621757 Jump to msg. # George Soros warns of 'serious' US correction One of the world's most influential investors has said that America is on course for a worse-than-expected downturn Marcus Leroux George Soros, the currency investor who almost single-handedly drove the pound out of the European exchange-rate mechanism on Black Wednesday, has given warning that the US is on the brink of a slowdown far more serious than the Federal Reserve is expecting. Mr Soros said that the US economy is "on the verge of a very serious economic correction” after decades of overspending. His opinion caused disquiet among investors and central bankers, as Mr Soros made £1 billion betting against the Bank of England in 1992. His comments came as Alan Greenspan, Ben Bernanke's predecessor as Chairman of the Federal Reserve, said that a housing downturn could drag the US economy towards a recession. Mr Soros told an audience at New York University: "We have borrowed an awful lot of money and now the bill is coming to us.” Asked whether a recession was inevitable, Mr Soros replied: “I think we are definitely in for a slowdown that I think will be a bigger slowdown than Bernanke is seeing.” Mr Bernanke has described the past few months as "a challenging period". Speaking in October, he said: "Conditions in financial markets have shown some improvement since the worst of the storm in mid-August, but a full recovery of market functioning is likely to take time, and we may well see some setbacks." This is the first time that Mr Soros has spoken out about America's macroeconomic state since credit markets seized to a halt after a surge in foreclosures on subprime mortgages. He said that China, the biggest US creditor, was the "absolute winner" and said that its economy would soar for years to come. Jim Rogers, the investor with whom Mr Soros founded his Quantum Fund in the 1970s, recently recommended that investors get out of the dollar and sell shares in investment banks and American housing companies. Mr Greenspan, whose pronouncements are scrutinised carefully by traders around the world, added his voice yesterday to the chorus of despair. He told a conference in Tokyo that high inventories of unsold housing in America presented a risk to the US economy. He said: “We still need to accelerate the rate of inventory liquidation, and that will mean bringing housing starts down and sales up. We have a long way to go.” Mr Greenspan added: "The critical issue on the whole subprime, and by extension the whole financial system, rests very narrowly on getting rid of probably 200,000 to 300,000 excess units in inventories in the United States.” Speaking in Boston last Wednesday, he gestured towards the likelihood of further crises, and the improbability of averting them. "Will we have another crash? Yes. Will we have another credit crisis? Yes. Can we do anything about it? No,” he said. Mr Greenspan and Mr Soros are joined by another collossus of international business in their gloomy forecasts. A fortnight ago Warren Buffett, the billionaire investor, predicted that the subprime crisis would have a long-lasting impact. He said: "In the next 6 months, one year, two years the problems in the mortgage market can cause a lot of problems with consumers and hurt buying power in the United States,". But, unlike Mr Greenspan, he does not envisage the subprime fall-out precipitating a wider slowdown in the American economy. "Overall the economy will make progress," he said. Mr Soros's and Mr Greenspan's pessimistic evaluations of the American economy come as Mervyn King, the Governor of the Bank of England, said in a rare broadcast interview that uncertainty over the extent of banks' losses in the subprime crisis would continue for months. In recent days Charles Prince, the chief executive of Citigroup, and Stan O'Neal, the chief executive of Merrill Lynch, have stepped down, becoming the highest-profile victims of the market turbulence.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 6, 2007 21:27:44 GMT -5
Older post.... from October 1, 2007 Borrowed from the millionaire board....
By: leowanta 01 Oct 2007, 09:03 AM EDT Msg. 608815 of 621426 (This msg. is a reply to 608812 by zahnj.) Jump to msg. #
naw...bill does what he is told to do by those large shareholders ...
i did talk with bill a few weeks ago, he doesn't know all the facts, and admitted so....frizzell doesn't know what has been done in the past...2003-2004, frizzell was not even onboard til we had the hearing....May 2005....he only knows what he's been told, which isn't much...he's trying to piece it back together, he believes the SEC has not protected us, i think he is wrong, he doesn't know anything of what has been going on behind the scenes, neither does Kevin, so i gathered from the telephone conversation. I suggest you take Kevin is good for "smoke and mirrors"....isn't it.
leowanta
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Post by soonerlew on Nov 6, 2007 22:39:24 GMT -5
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Post by JoeRockss on Nov 7, 2007 6:55:22 GMT -5
pj DIAMOND MINER -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AccaInt.Rm.Tues~ 11-6-07 www.zshare.net/audio/4726956d31f7ec/----------------------------- Gr8hiker: Ok Acca. Do you believe there are any holdouts who haven't settled with our TEAM or is it fair to say that IBM didn't allow this to close down until he had everyone to the table..even if it took as long as it did? Acca: I am glad you asked that. There hasn't been a holdout for...I will say..for weeks...several weeks. The certain predictament that has not released this Relief Fund is an entity that is not somebody to be taken lightly, if you will. And um..I won't even touch it or even discuss it. As far as the crooks that illegally shorted this company..that has been over for a long time, actually.
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Post by soonerlew on Nov 7, 2007 8:46:06 GMT -5
By: lilburrito0 07 Nov 2007, 06:39 AM EST Msg. 621840 of 621843 Jump to msg. # bhollenegg
Now that you have spread around your thoughts on the checks being forged, you should answer this question:
What is the relevance of claiming the two checks were forged?
If you can answer this question with a logical explanation; You'll gain my respect!
So please, what is the relevance of claiming the two checks were forged?
- - - - - By: bhollenegg 07 Nov 2007, 07:13 AM EST Msg. 621843 of 621843 (This msg. is a reply to 621840 by lilburrito0.) Jump to msg. # Lilburrito0...
Misinformation...if not,then investigate who wrote the checks.
There are two sides to most information...in this case, the back side of the check. It is obvious the checks are not written by the same person. Some of the checks are written using copies of the original blank check and check number.
BHollenegg
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Post by soonerlew on Nov 7, 2007 8:46:47 GMT -5
mgl of millionaires......... By: greedy_malone 06 Nov 2007, 01:05 PM EST Msg. 621579 of 621843 Jump to msg. # A delusion is commonly defined as a fixed false belief and is used in everyday language to describe a belief that is either false, fanciful or derived from deception. In psychiatry, the definition is necessarily more precise and implies that the belief is pathological (the result of an illness or illness process). As a pathology it is distinct from a belief based on false or incomplete information or certain effects of perception which would more properly be termed an apperception or illusion. Delusions typically occur in the context of neurological or mental illness, although they are not tied to any particular disease and have been found to occur in the context of many pathological states (both physical and mental). However, they are of particular diagnostic importance in psychotic disorders and particularly in schizophrenia. - - - - - By: bhollenegg 06 Nov 2007, 01:55 PM EST Msg. 621610 of 621843 (This msg. is a reply to 621579 by greedy_malone.) Jump to msg. # Greedy Malone, Why do you insist on using the word “delusional” to describe shareholders who are positive about their investment? Is this the new catch word of the month? Try collusion, because the definition of "extreme delusion" is defined as the act of monitoring and constantly reminding people that they are suffering from delusion. Please explain why you are here and why you posted the message below in 2006? BHollenegg By Greedy Malone: This is my cue to exit the boards I have been told a massive sting operation is underway by Federal officials from several departments including the FBI, CIA, Secret Service, State and local police to round up the naked short sellers and their associates. I am told that there will be a rather significant departure of top level sad people on RB. Me being one of them. If the legal arm of this investigation reaches me I want you to know this was done for the betterment of my family and that I did my best to remain inside the level of the law when I posted on RB. I do not believe any of my posts were ever illegal in nature or in violation of any securities regulations. We have been told that a denial of service campaign is underway by the shorts to hamper the gathering of evidence by the Federal agents. I felt the need to have something posted here apologizing for any illegal actions I may have been a part of in hopes that there will be mercy shown to me if needed. Sincerely, greedy_malone ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=381963 “And did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts ? Hot ashes for trees ? Hot air for a cool breeze ? Cold comfort for change ? And did you exchange a walk on part in the war against corruption for a lead role in a cage ?” Floyd BHollenegg - - - - - By: greedy_malone 06 Nov 2007, 03:29 PM EST Msg. 621666 of 621843 (This msg. is a reply to 621610 by bhollenegg.) Jump to msg. # egg I posted that message as sarcasm to show that while the majority of the people would rightfully dismiss it as a fable, there would be a chosen few who would believe it, copy and paste it, bring it up as often as they could, try and use it to prove some point about sad people, pretend as if it were true in the absence of any factual support and pretty much worship it as proof that naked shorting exists and hedge funds pay sad people to troll around on message boards. And each and every time you post it, demand answers from me and wave it like a victory flag you prove my initial point of posting it in the first place. Thanks. And I use delusional because being positive about an investment 2 years after revocation and in the face of countless facts, documents and verifiable proof showing it to be a monumental scam still try and keep hope alive by creating unbelievable stories. Well, I guess all one has to do is read your posts here over the years to understand exactly what I am talking about. Your "investment" is gone. And it never was an "investment" in the first place. Fraud is not an investment strategy egg. Fraud is something that takes your money and does not give it back. - - - - - By: bhollenegg 07 Nov 2007, 05:30 AM EST Msg. 621831 of 621843 (This msg. is a reply to 621666 by greedy_malone.) Jump to msg. # Greedy Malone..you are not a CMKX Stockholder hanging out on a CMKX subject investment board for several years postig sarcasm and and telling the shareholders that their investment is worthless. You do this day after day, month after month, year after year and then you boast that you wave your posts like a victory flag. It's a flag alright, but not a victory flag. You may want to spend your time in pursuing another four-letter investment...invest in LIFE, part of a major exchange, and best of all, it is free. BHollenegg - - - - -
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Post by soonerlew on Nov 7, 2007 8:47:18 GMT -5
By: september_rain 07 Nov 2007, 07:25 AM EST Msg. 621845 of 621853 Jump to msg. # "WE WAIT" )) - - - - - By: september_rain 07 Nov 2007, 07:26 AM EST Msg. 621846 of 621853 Jump to msg. # Faulks book is delayed another 30 days - - - - - By: september_rain 07 Nov 2007, 07:27 AM EST Msg. 621847 of 621853 Jump to msg. # The "ending" has not been written )) - - - - - By: september_rain 07 Nov 2007, 07:28 AM EST Msg. 621848 of 621854 Jump to msg. # Will the book "really" be released )) - - - - - By: september_rain 07 Nov 2007, 07:29 AM EST Msg. 621849 of 621854 Jump to msg. # There will be "no" book )) - - - - - By: rosencrantz2010 07 Nov 2007, 07:37 AM EST Msg. 621853 of 621854 Jump to msg. # sept, when will the ending be written? will it be this NOVEMBER? are we waiting on court cases against some bad guys and the return of the claims from ENT? are we waiting to see if grandfather is going to work? or are we waiting on a decision in the SHORE GOLD case? By: sparkysantos 07 Nov 2007, 08:24 AM EST Msg. 621869 of 621878 (This msg. is a reply to 621847 by september_rain.) Jump to msg. # You must be correct Sept Rain: There is absolutely no way the "author" would have any faulking idea how this is going end, thus there is no way an "ending" could have possibly been completed; and this lack-of-a-conclusion, IMHO, is the real reason for this latest delay. As for whether or not "the book" will ever even be published; IMO that depends on what the ending ends up being. Stay Tuned ~ BR, Sparky By: mr_fantastic 07 Nov 2007, 08:28 AM EST Msg. 621871 of 621879 (This msg. is a reply to 621869 by sparkysantos.) Jump to msg. # sparky: The ending they want is one that makes Martin and Frizzell look like "heroes". It's not only a shameless and pathetic promotional tool for the Owners' Group, but another method of squeezing money out of CMKX shareholders...not only through book sales, but potential investments in their laughable company. ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=621871
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Post by soonerlew on Nov 7, 2007 8:47:53 GMT -5
gusjarvis King of Diamonds after the cert pull from ric « Thread Started on Yesterday at 10:49pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- After the Cert Pull * Stoecklien and the TF recommends and interplead * Stoecklien and Maheu resign the Task Force and no longer has any involvement in CMKM. * Was understanding that a PR was to be released in a week which never happened. * Bill Frizzell no longer represents shareholders and doesn’t no anything more then us. * TF is dissolved * 18 months after the last update from UC he issues a PR stating an interplead and new CEO. * Kevin West is named interim CEO. * NevWest was charge for Money Laundering with John Edwards as the client funneling shares through numerous companies. * Company still refuses to communicate with shareholders * UC refuses to testify at his own civil trial taking the 5th yet again * After a phone calls to Moron the Company was forced to issue a PR in Dec. 06. Company wants shareholders to stop calling Moran's office. * The Company met with their corporate attorney, John T. Moran III of the Moran Law Firm, to discuss the status of interpleader to be filed with the Federal Court as discussed in the PR of 8-28-06. The Company was informed that the pleadings are almost complete, however, Attorney Moran was made aware of and discovered additional Company information that dictated further investigation and due diligence that needed to be performed by all of the attorneys involved before the document can be completed. * Kevin West, interim CEO seems to be nothing more then a IR person to answer phone calls * Company promises to write a PR once a month to keep shares informed of interplead. * Kevin claims Interplead is treading on new grounds and that is for the delay. * In telephone calls, Kevin tells each shareholder that called there is no settlement, that the Interplead is all that is happening at the moment. now what do you think kevin ment by this and what did you see to make you say that: Kevin claims Interplead is treading on new grounds and that is for the delay. tramp2.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1194414585gusjarvis King of Diamonds Re: after the cert pull from ric « Reply #1 on Yesterday at 10:51pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- and claims frizzell knows nothing more than us, well did he mean now he has to say he knows nothing more than us because he better dam sure have found out about a lot more than us along the way to do his job right. I am sure he did and if the cert pull just proved what they say it does now and that is they just dumped the shares to us, what was kevin bringing to the interplead? what was making this so special?
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Post by soonerlew on Nov 7, 2007 8:48:31 GMT -5
By: bhollenegg 07 Nov 2007, 04:19 AM EST Msg. 621817 of 621864 (This msg. is a reply to 621660 by f4ds.) Jump to msg. # f4ds...you stated "We've just begun to expose the crooks and those that have helped them." Great undercover work...Are you with Shore Gold? By: jboydwv 26 Oct 2007, 08 F4D .. LETS MAKE IT CLEAR ..... I dont know Bhollenegg but he is 100 times more respected poster than you ....... remember when your source was the " best " souce one could have ?? the one who said money was 100% .... remember when you mnade sure everone know that your source couldnt be topped by anyone else you made it very clear you had the correct info of cash and noone else knew what they were talking about ?? alot of people remember all that !! do you have the same source now ?? is your source that tells you GLEN is a crook and is going down the same source as you had that knew of cash for us ?? you said its not glens " turn " yet as though you know the whole list of everyone that is going down !! I dont think ive ever seen anyone who had the " best source possible " on both sides of the issue !!! YOU ARE THE MAN .... I dont know what the outcome is yet and im willing to admit I know nothing but I can smell an ego filled moron a mile away !!! you take care now ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=618476 f4d ... when you used to guarantee cash was coming and you had a better source than anyone and you were 100% confident are you as confident now that Glen is going down IS it the same source ? Remember when you acted like you knew it all and we were gonna make big cash ?? are you the same as far as glen goes and knowing whos " turn " it is ? Nice that you can get such great sources on both side of this issue and be so confident both ways !! maybe you dont know a DAM* thing and you just like being THE MAN who knows things !! ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=617549 f4d ( Fishing4diamonds ) ...... when you were a head GURU who knew of cash coming for CMKX holders were you helping someone dump shares ? You were one of the biggest happy people with your " chirps " .. remember ? Who were you helping dump ? remember all your teaser lines you used to come in the INT room and let slip out to create excitement ?? I do !!! so do many !! ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=617511 f4d .... remember when you used to come into the INT room and say you had a chirp and everyone would follow you back to your private mssage board where you would tell your news of cash coming ??what was all that about ?? you had as many dates for cash as acca @!!! not sure how you are diff from acca or anyone in the INT room ..... ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=617512 ..... Just be sure to add yourself to your list of happy people who had a " source " who knew of cash coming for us !! ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=617515
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Post by eastcoastswing on Nov 7, 2007 13:15:48 GMT -5
I just listened to ACCA and he is so awful. The Navy caller asked some really good questions (or one really good question twice) and he danced around it for minutes until a phone call saved him. ACCA cannot answer what we are waiting for or what events that have taken place that have been part of the progression for CMKX. He is so bad!!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 7, 2007 13:55:00 GMT -5
luci Queen of Diamonds
By: Bellingus 07 Nov 2007, 12:44 PM EST Msg. 27300 of 27300 Jump to msg. # Why a Default Judgment? I was reading some of the frenzied responses earlier this year to the complaint against Urban and other defendants last night. Then I realized I actually had a copy of the PDF saved and read it again this morning. It would seem there are a lot of serious charges contained in the document. But it raises some questions.
First, and to me, the most curious item is this: why would UC appoint certain ppl to take over the company only to have them charge him with so many serious violations? Naysayers might just dismiss this as UC is just plain dumb. But dumb like a fox is more like it. And, at least at the time the Tyler guys agreed to be part of all of this, they had to agree to certain things.
In the past I made reference to having to have a default judgment entered against UC and others. Only then could we be ruminated. I’m sticking to that. A default means that there has been no trial, no testimony and no actual admissions to anything – only that, because no defense has been brought forward, the parties are guilty because they did not defend against the charges. This part is important.
It’s been rumored that original management has actually proved that the company was raped and pillaged at the hands of certain crooks. I’m not going to go into names, dates and other stuff but it took the likes of Mahue, Stocklien, Glenn and a cast of plenty to actually get the goods and show the forces within the Federal Reserve that it’s time to actually pay up on their guarantee of a just and equitable market.
As I’ve been saying for the past three years, the Feds will never openly admit that the system was so screwed up that anything like this could happen in the ‘safe’ markets of the U.S. But as TONS of recent evidence would show, it was and is that screwed up. And let’s say that there is a nice reward waiting for us. How do we get it while they maintain a certain illusion?
Built right into the complaint is the remedy – if you’re paying attention. In the complaint against UC and other defendants dated April 25, 2007, on page 14 under the heading Fourth Cause, line 19, it reads:
“ CMKM requests the Court to exercise its equitable powers and order that all assets received by defendants from their wrongful acts and resulting investments from those assets be awarded to CMKM.” (CMKM = Bona Fide Shareholders)
Okay, word is that UC and others ‘stole’ in the neighborhood of $200M from stockholders. But the operative phrase in that sentence is “…and resulting investments from those assets…” That should, could, and eventually will result in remuneration far beyond the original $200M. But there’s more.
Page 17, line 78: Defendants should be made to disgorge all benefits derived from unjustly owning, holding or disposing of company assets. Defendants should be made to return all funds received directly from the company or as proceeds from the sale of company stock or other assets.
The kernel here is “other assets.” Or, assets in excess of the $200M. There’s more, but those two lines are quite enough. It allows everyone (except the moron shorts) to be happy. Almost no one except the principals is ever going to know EVERYTHING that happened. But once UC is declared guilty by default of these accusations, the feds can cut loose with what they have, and the slate can be wiped clean because the defendants have actually complied with the built-in remedy. Pretty cool huh? The government saves face, UC is guilty for those who so desperately need him to be, and we get some long-awaited moola.
So why hasn’t the default been declared? Hmmmmmmm?
Oh, I happen to believe that such remuneration is only one part of what’s coming. There are those pesky claims that so many say have disappeared. Stay tuned…
AMHO
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 7, 2007 14:01:57 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 07 Nov 2007, 12:19 PM EST Msg. 621980 of 621981 Jump to msg. # remember years ago when cmkx's hundred bank accounts remember how long ago that was, 2005 I think. Now what dd did our lawyer do back then with that very public information, he must have dd'd it thouroughly as we all saw it on these boards right. This must be almost over one would think as most of the bad news we alllll saw years ago is now coming out in court the way it had to, too bad we have to sit through this mess with our own team pretending it is all new to them
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 7, 2007 14:03:07 GMT -5
By:mr_fantastic 07 Nov 2007, 08:30 AM EST Msg. 621873 of 621873 (This msg. is a reply to 621870 by f4ds.) Jump to msg. #
F4Ds: You're no "basher". Bashers were the people who were calling this a scam from day one. You don't qualify, since you actually pumped this POS, and are now stroking the OG as well.
Sorry, but it's an insult to many when you, a deluded moron, refer to yourself as a "basher".
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 7, 2007 14:07:15 GMT -5
luci Queen of Diamonds (this is interesting - especially robert's response... are we still being "conditioned"? lol the phxgold of old would NEVER have resorted to this...) By: phxgold 06 Nov 2007, 05:12 PM EST Msg. 621728 of 621856 Jump to msg. # omg! egg is onto something here there is alot going on on these checks! tinypic.com/view.php?pic=10opiqp&s=2 By: bhollenegg 07 Nov 2007, 06:11 AM EST Msg. 621837 of 621856 (This msg. is a reply to 621728 by phxgold.) Jump to msg. # Phxgold...I have always respected your dd and posts in the past. You have contributed immensely to the pool of researchers and interested shareholders. I am sorry to see that you find it neccessary to resort to this type of posting..it doesn't fit with the Phxgold that I have a considerable respect for over the years. Thank you, BHollenegg
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Nov 7, 2007 14:08:37 GMT -5
PJ Senior Diamond Miner ****
Re: Acca MP3 11-6-07 « Reply #1 on Today at 12:06am »
Gr8hiker: Ok Acca. Do you believe there are any holdouts who haven't settled with our TEAM or is it fair to say that IBM didn't allow this to close down until he had everyone to the table..even if it took as long as it did?
Acca: I am glad you asked that. There hasn't been a holdout for...I will say..for weeks...several weeks. The certain predictament that has not released this Relief Fund is an entity that is not somebody to be taken lightly, if you will. And um..I won't even touch it or even discuss it. As far as the crooks that illegally shorted this company..that has been over for a long time, actually.
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