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Post by soonerlew on Jul 2, 2008 7:14:52 GMT -5
pickleman773 Musketeer 6/27/08 Discovery Plan Conference SEC v CMKM Et a « Thread Started Yesterday at 10:20pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Taken from PACER this evening. Date Filed # Docket Text 06/27/2008 60 MINUTES OF PROCEEDINGS - Hearing re stipulated discovery plan and scheduling order 55 held on 6/27/2008 before Magistrate Judge Robert J. Johnston. Crtrm Administrator: J. Ries; Pla Counsel: Molly M. White and Leslie A. Hakala; Def Counsel: Mark S. Dzarnoski, David Hall and Kara Binz for John Wesley Hall, Jr.; Court Reporter/FTR #: 10:06 - 10:39; Time of Hearing: 10:00 a.m.; Courtroom: 3D; The parties appeared telephonically and also appearing telephonically are defendants Anthony Tomasso, Kathleen Tomasso and Sergey Rumyantzev. The Court canvasses the parties regarding the stipulated discovery plan and scheduling order 55 . ORDERED that discovery in this case is open but the stipulated discovery plan and scheduling order 55 is NOT APPROVED. The parties are required to take a look at the documents and they should be disclosed immediately by the Securities and Exchange Commission. All the testimonies and other documents are to be made available for examination and copy. Within 30 days the parties are to present to Court in detail, by persons names, who needs to be deposed as to each defendant in this case. A further status conference will be set in 30 days and the Court will expect a document to be ready at that time to identify what needs to be done. (no image attached) (Copies have been distributed pursuant to the NEF - JAR) (Entered: 07/01/2008) pickleman773 cmkxdiamond.proboards66.com/index.cgi?board=general1&action=display&thread=57190
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 2, 2008 7:17:19 GMT -5
disavowed Mercenary Urban/CMKX - CNBC's American Greed « Thread Started on Jun 14, 2008, 3:22pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I sent a very basic query to the producers at American Greed about a year or so ago, and obviously, I got no hit on it. However, what would you folks say to us sending a sh%t load of queries to the producer at the show again, and see if they would look into doing a story on Urban, Edwards and the "Stock play of a lifetime"? We all talk about wanting to get this thing plastered everywhere that we can, which may be more justice than we will see in the end...who knows. The email address to send story ideas to the show is americangreed@cnbc.com The sheep are always writing, faxing in mass to people, trying to tell the world how the SEC is stealing our trillion dollar payout, so why dont we all hammer CNBC with the idea of doing an investigative report on Urban and his crew on American Greed? It doesn't cost anything to send an email......mine is going to them again. Just a thought. cmkxdiamond.proboards66.com/index.cgi?board=general1&action=display&thread=57116&page=1
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 2, 2008 7:21:02 GMT -5
rbitulsa Explorer Re: "Naked Truth" Review « Reply #15 Yesterday at 12:57am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think the only way one could accurately use the words CMKX and naked shorting in the same topic, would be to argue that the illicit tactics used to scam CMKX investors were an evolved and very technical set of strategies, whose origins came from a group of fraudsters, each of whom was practiced in their specific brand of stock fraud, including naked shorting. Some of the many examples follow: Michael Mitton was a pure naked shorter. Selling stock he didn't own, using fraudulent margin accounts; when the stock went down, he bought in. When it went up, the check bounced, and he opened new accounts. Mitton is linked to our group through Peter Berney - Mitton's attorney was Robert Potter - Berney's partner. Berney's crew did things a little different. Instead of attacking a stock from the outside, they went inside, secretly taking control, and usually brought the pumpers and the shorters on board to work together, in tandem. Donald thingyson with others at Broadband Wireless - they took a handful of worthless shells they controlled, and PR'd agreements between them, which fraudulently inflated the asset values of each shell. thingyson was involved in the transfer of the FALC claims into the corrupt CMKX shell, which does now appear to have been a Peter Berney shell. Tanner and Evans (Coffey was their attorney on many deals), and guys like Aaron Tsai (MAS incorporator), were using shells and creating dozens of false nominees, so they could issue massive amounts of shares to accounts they controlled, without giving the public appearance that they were controlling the stock. Stoecklein was involved with multiple compainies which employed the use of "straw men" to illegally issue and dump stock. And he was also directly involved with mafia-infested Legend Sports, showing up near the end, to shut the company down, and distribute what remained of any assets. Slayton, an attorney, made his living falsifying financial documents for scammers like Freestar and Freedom Surf. Stoecklein, Dvorak, Cook, and Hackman were all involved in one or more of some 15 different shells with Slayton. ...................................... I believe that every one of these strategies was employed against CMKX shareholders, at one time or another with the primary goal to find any and every means to allow the attorney to craft another opinion letter allowing the issuance of more unrestricted shares. But the collision of all these tactics into one of the biggest financial scams ever wasn't coincidental; Edwards was the hub that tied all of these crooks (their associates, their tactics) together, and kept it organized, hidden, and under control. Urban brought his "illicit style" into the mix as well, taking profit out of dressed-up pasture, and always leaving investors with the taste of failure. He was a perfect and willing conduit for Edwards' plans. For the most part, naked shorting is only relevant in CMKX to the extent that the manipulation of it by fraudsters fooled a whole bunch of well-intended people, including myself, for quite some time. The quest for "the cover" is what led me, in early 2004, to look for a stock that was heavily nss'ed, and had a chance to force a cover. Guess which stock I picked? cmkxdiamond.proboards66.com/index.cgi?board=general1&action=display&thread=57122&page=2
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 2, 2008 7:28:19 GMT -5
By: sparkysantos 02 Jul 2008, 07:33 AM EDT Msg. 738347 of 738354 Jump to msg. # Sparky thinks Wednesday could be a wild session:
Over the night Japan's Nikkei 225 slid another 177 points, or 1.3%, to close @ 13,289; this marking the 10th declining day in a row, a trend extension not seen in 43 years.
And in China the Shanghai Composite closed virtually flat @ 2,652, the lowest level that index has seen in 16 months.
But economic data already released today (7:00 am ET) by the Mortgage Bankers Association indicates that mortgage applications fell again last week, with volume off 9.3% year to year.
Sparky's been in the mortgage business for 28 years and had already personally, and accurately, sensed this sad trend; but the reason Sparky finds this so particularly significant is that every single one of the US-based "financials" sports a balance sheet that is literally cluttered with crappy paper instruments that are tied directly and irreversibly to US housing prices. And with applications still running this far behind last year, Sparky sees no immediate end to the ongoing, and now suddenly steeper, slide in US real estate values.
With over two hours to go before the opening, Oil is presently unchanged @ around $ 141 a barrel, Dow futures are up about 52 points, S&P 500 futures are up about 7, and Nasdaq futures are up 16 points.
In Sparky's opinion, yesterday's widely-publicized rally, after the Dow was off more than 160 points, was not really a rally at all (the Dow only closed up 32 points). Rather, Tuesday's reversal was nothing more than an unpredictable and relatively-tiny spurt of short covering. And yes, you guessed it, a few hedge fund hors were simply closing out short positions they had established mostly in US-based "financials," but also in a slew of recently-battered Blue Chips like GM.
And hey; the hedge funds that covered yesterday cleaned up - trust Sparky on this!
But now that those lucrative trades have been completed, and now that the underlying issues have been bid back up by 5% to 10%; Sparky foresees a whole new wave of short selling on the near-term horizon.
The bottom line is simple folks; there just isn't anything going on anywhere on any economic front that looks even remotely positive. And if there is, please do bring it to Sparky's attention.
Stay tuned; and safely sidelined, cushioned with Put options betting against the US-based financials ~
Sparky
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 2, 2008 7:30:04 GMT -5
By: mquietstorm3 02 Jul 2008, 08:04 AM EDT Msg. 738348 of 738355 Jump to msg. # How many people pride or loyalty to a certain party would not allow them to accept change even though they know deep down on the inside that it is more than needed? By: rosencrantz2010 02 Jul 2008, 08:23 AM EDT Msg. 738352 of 738355 (This msg. is a reply to 738348 by mquietstorm3.) Jump to msg. # mquietstorm3, having our money being held hostage as part of some leverage to help change the system doesn't seem right, no matter how just the cause. most of us didn't sign on (i.e., invest) to make a political statement. most of us were hoping to see a return on our investment over a reasonable period of time. i'll bet most of us, myself included, figured they had invested in a diamond mining exploration company hoping to see a modest return on our investment in a year's time. i doubt many investors would have kept their funds in cmkx if they had been told they were really investing in a political campaign focused on changing the way markets work and that we wouldn't have access to our money for 6 to 10 years. if some of us would have made the same investment in SHORE GOLD back in 2004 we made in CMKX we would now be worth hundreds of thousands, maybe millions. ;-) Shore's not doing too well now, but they were up from 75 cents back in 2004 to $8 dollars a few years ago. d*mn! ten times your investment in a matter of a few years. just think what that would be like. sweet. www.stockhouse.com/tools/?page=%2FFinancialTools%2Fsn%5Foverview%2Easp%3Fsymbol%3DT%2ESGF%26table%3Dlist
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 2, 2008 7:32:06 GMT -5
By: david_stevens 02 Jul 2008, 08:26 AM EDT Msg. 738354 of 738356 (This msg. is a reply to 738352 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # rosen -did u actually buy shares or NSS - so was really holding your money
By: david_stevens 02 Jul 2008, 08:29 AM EDT Msg. 738355 of 738356 Jump to msg. # remember -the company said 2 pull your certs n 2003 - my guess is -anything after that was NSS - be thankful if u get your money back "+" no matter how long it takes
By: david_stevens 02 Jul 2008, 08:30 AM EDT Msg. 738356 of 738356 (This msg. is a reply to 738355 by david_stevens.) Jump to msg. # the company could have closed up shop and moved on like "all" the other companies who were robbed
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 2, 2008 12:05:09 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 02 Jul 2008, 09:04 AM EDT Msg. 738363 of 738590 Jump to msg. # how about that SHORE acquiring all those old craaapy CMKX claims that weren't worth #####.
what is with that? no wonder SHORE's stock price has been going down. they're so stupid not to have listened to jonas and others about how worthless all those CMKX claims were.
what are those idiots at SHORE thinking? what dummies! HA HA! boy oh boy did ENTOURAGE pull a fast one of those north woods yahoos at SHORE GOLD!
good one, ENTOURAGE. you snookered those guys at SHORE to acquire all of the worthless CMKX claims.
oops! wait a minute! ENTOURAGE didn't sell all those old craaapy CMKX claims they let those claims lapse because they weren't worth anything. good move ENTOURAGE! no one can say those guys at SHORE can pull a fast one on you! it's a good thing you unloaded all that craap land before you had to pay any more money to maintain it. good move ENTOURAGE!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 2, 2008 12:19:03 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 02 Jul 2008, 09:16 AM EDT Msg. 738367 of 738598 (This msg. is a reply to 738366 by klonopin2mg.) Jump to msg. # klon,
yeah, but i'm tired of letting them park there for free! lol
that latest map on SHANE RESOURCES site is quite an eye opener. SHORE has just about acquired the entire FALC. SHANE has a big chunk, as does STAR URANIUM, but those three just about have the whole thing locked up.
when the hell is this thing going to break open.
and what about all this other talk of oil or coal or oil sands? where are those claims? around Prince Albert or further south? i've read about the bakken (sp?) field in southern SK, but i've never heard about urban having anything down there. so, if it's not down there and urban, or whoever, has oil then where is it? and how much? and how long could something that big really be kept secret? they need a lot of energy (and water) to process oil sands so maybe that's why they are putting in that new hydro power plant.
ah, speculation, speculation, speculation.
By: david_stevens 02 Jul 2008, 09:23 AM EDT Msg. 738372 of 738599 (This msg. is a reply to 738367 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # hey rosen - "SEALED"
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 2, 2008 12:20:28 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 02 Jul 2008, 09:25 AM EDT Msg. 738375 of 738601Jump to msg. # klon, i found where urban's oil is located. we just have to do a little processing. www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2008/06/27/VI2008062702641.html?hpid=multimedia1&hpv=national lol By: klonopin2mg 02 Jul 2008, 11:46 AM EDT Msg. 738481 of 738601(This msg. is a reply to 738375 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # rosencrantz' i like it! we NEED pioneers..... we can't be defeated by corruption and that's what "THIS" is all about! nice clip! tia Have A Great Day Bud!e
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 2, 2008 12:24:37 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 02 Jul 2008, 09:27 AM EDT Msg. 738379 of 738601 (This msg. is a reply to 738371 by david_stevens.) Jump to msg. # david, i saw that eric step down the other week/month. yeah, that holds promise. so, who do you think? i wouldn't mind a surprise announcement involving our favorite canadian gambler/drag racer.
but let's get this show on the road!
By: david_stevens 02 Jul 2008, 09:28 AM EDT Msg. 738382 of 738601 (This msg. is a reply to 738379 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # rosen - if its who i think it will b - we will b really surprized
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 2, 2008 12:28:19 GMT -5
By: david_stevens 02 Jul 2008, 09:59 AM EDT Msg. 738415 of 738601 Jump to msg. # if any of u think all this was for nothing - HERES YOUR WAKE-UP CALL - ITS COMING :-))))
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 2, 2008 12:31:32 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 02 Jul 2008, 11:06 AM EDT Msg. 738433 of 738603 (This msg. is a reply to 738429 by mquietstorm3.) Jump to msg. # mquietstorm3, the more i think about it i would have to back up and ask a simpler question, "what is even being controlled?" until we know that there isn't much sense in asking who is in control. lol
is it the FALC? is in the government's actions? is it some large new corporate entity? what needs controlling?
By: rosencrantz2010 02 Jul 2008, 11:11 AM EDT Msg. 738443 of 738604 (This msg. is a reply to 738433 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # let's answer what is being controlled, first, then we can turn to who is doing the controlling.
i say cmkx is in control of the FALC. but what role does NEWMONT play? and how about CAMECO?
we could be looking at a CMKX/SHORE/NEWMONT/CAMECO merger. who knows, maybe we'll even throw debeers in there. why not?
and this entity then rivals RIO TINTO and BHP Billiton for top spot in controlling most of the world's mineral/energy commodities.
so, what part of it do we own? 10%? okay, 10 percent of maybe the third largest mining company in the world ain't bad.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 2, 2008 12:34:03 GMT -5
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 2, 2008 12:35:19 GMT -5
By: stockrich0 02 Jul 2008, 11:31 AM EDT Msg. 738465 of 738606 Jump to msg. #
Who is Batman?
I would have to say Maheu...he's the Dark Knight who lurks in the shadows. Bill Frizzell is Comissioner Gordon, the upright stalwart man dedicated to doing the right thing. And I guess Kevin West is Robin, waiting for his next command to back up any situation.
I guess that leaves Urban as "Two-Face", because most people are still torn as to which side he's on.
...however, I think he stands for 'truth, justice and the American/Canadian way.'
Stockrich.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 2, 2008 12:41:09 GMT -5
By: david_stevens 02 Jul 2008, 12:02 PM EDT Msg. 738516 of 738610 Jump to msg. # cmkx is dead - SEC, Faulks book, maheu - huge effort 2 kill the cmkx name
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