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Post by JoeRockss on Jul 7, 2008 17:22:54 GMT -5
By: lefty-jargon 07 Jul 2008, 05:53 PM EDT Msg. 739966 of 739981 Jump to msg. # Mona did you know the A/S is 5 trillion? Are you that stupid Mona or just claim to be stupid?
By: david_stevens 07 Jul 2008, 06:00 PM EDT Msg. 739970 of 739981 Jump to msg. # 5 trillion - what an unusual number :-))))
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Post by JoeRockss on Jul 7, 2008 17:23:45 GMT -5
By: david_stevens 07 Jul 2008, 06:11 PM EDT Msg. 739975 of 739981 Jump to msg. # urban didnt show - that lil rascal
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Post by JoeRockss on Jul 7, 2008 17:24:44 GMT -5
By: david_stevens 07 Jul 2008, 06:12 PM EDT Msg. 739976 of 739983 Jump to msg. # i guess what he told me on the phone was true
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 7, 2008 18:35:48 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 07 Jul 2008, 02:01 PM EDT Msg. 739898 of 740003 Jump to msg. # the truth before they sealed the info was grreat along with the letter to the board from john martin letting everyone know urban was extorted, the posts by andy saying urban made a four billion dollar deal and outed roger worked with leslie, and of course the the fact that they say we have fake shares but along with them real certs paid for by some transaction to make that possible.
This info is amazing and came out around the time of all that work kevin did on the interplead with the work product from this amazing cert pull that hodges says trapped the largest short ever:
you laugh at the bullchit put out by tyler now, especially the faq's, what a joke:
I have to agree that it is time for the company to pay shareholders a dividend even if it’s token to acknowledge that the company is viable and willing to apply pressure on the short. I look back when Kevin West was on the CMKM Taskforce and he told me that the company would be putting out a PR on a day when I was talking with him. The attorney’s told Urban that the PR would be out that day and it never happened. I asked Kevin what happened and he told me that Urban was even surprised it didn’t come out. He explained his frustration with the lack of communication from the company to shareholders. He told me that the attorney’s are running the show and not even Urban can decide when a PR is issued. Basically the attorneys have a task at hand and they could care less what the shareholders think because they have a job to do and that is all that matters, their success ultimately is our success. They refuse to show any part of their hand for whatever it is they are working on. The shareholders are locked in and basically everyone must trust the team whether they like it or not.
I find it rather ironic that Kevin who is a shareholder is now the interim CEO and by position must have a better insight as to what is going on. Kevin believes in communication, he really does. Interestingly enough now that he is on the inside, he is not allowed to communicate because of the attorneys. He might not like it, but he understands why. Kevin is a shareholder and believe me, if he is okay with it, so am I. Kevin stated to me while on the CMKM Taskforce that CMKM had substantial assets. He confirmed to me that there was no way he would be spending all of his time and effort if the only asset was Entourage. The SEC basically warned the CMKM Taskforce that if they tried to tell everyone to pull their stock certificates that the SEC would try to charge them with market manipulation. The attorney’s in turn created a transaction which was clever enough to force a stock certificate pull and that is really the only reason why the Entourage deal was done. Not because it was the “only” asset, there are other assets but because it was the only way to get a stock certificate pull underway.
Key point here, I asked Kevin if interpleader was something that was thought of after the stock certificate pull was pretty much near completion. Kevin made it very clear to me that interpleader was the goal from day 1. Basically Robert Maheu told everyone in a meeting that the goal of the CMKM Taskforce was to identify and cert as many CMKM shareholders as much and accurately as possible. The goal was to provide him with a list that he could take to interpleader. Basically different attorneys would be used for different tasks depending on where we were in the overall plan. It was my understanding that despite the PR that Stocklein and Maheu were no longer part of the CMKM Taskforce that they were still consulting with the company. Kevin made it very clear to me that he was extremely confident in what the company was doing because as far as they were concerned they were successful in certing enough shareholders to move forward with interpleader. We knew of the holdouts and that would be addressed through interpleader if they wouldn’t cooperate. The fact that interpleader is not filed could be an indication that we are getting some cooperation.
Kevin and I, identified the issue of broker/dealers hiding stock certificates from the CMKM Taskforce. It was obvious to me that the company had some sort of open ended settlement. The reason being that why would the attorneys need to keep their own set of data on shareholders when the transfer agent had the data. Faxing in our stock certificates to the law firm for verification made no sense to me if we are already verified by the mere issuance of our stock certificates with the transfer agent. Also why would the brokerage firms who did order stock certificates and had the shares hide them from the CMKM Taskforce. What would be the purpose of hiding them in their vaults unless by giving them to shareholders and in turn the shareholders faxing them into the law firm created a liability for them. The fact that the DTCC cleared out all of their CMKM was also very interesting. Basically CMKM in the process of distributing Entourage and any other assets would not be using the DTCC. Why would that be? I understand that CMKM is revoked and is a private company and should not use the DTCC, so then brokerage intermediaries have no reason to be holding electronic shares and should have issued certs to their clients. I suspect that if CMKM has settled with the DTCC it could not give the Entourage and any other assets, including settlements, back to the DTCC to distribute. That is why everyone had to fax in to the law firm because ultimately distribution would have to be done through them and not the DTCC.
My purpose here is to try and give a better insight as to where we were and where this is going. It’s obviously going forward. I myself get very impatient at times, however when I put it in perspective, there is progress. The cert pull has identified what brokerage firms are naked short, which is critical if this has to be taken into the courts. Nevwest has been busted along with Edwards for their part in all of this. The fact that Nevwest sold 259 billion shares of stock clearly explains why CMKM issues more and more shares to make sure the company retained control with all these additional shares in the market. Shareholders should be intrigued with the fact that these restricted shares were recommended by Frizzell to Stocklein to be null and void for violating the company’s restricted stock rules and therefore if done would not only lower the number of shares issued and outstanding, but also create a naked short. If these shares are counted currently in the Taskforce count and now are to become null and void, what is the true count. Also if the company had shares in the treasury that were sitting there to offset a hostile takeover, how many of those shares can be retired now that the threat has been addressed. If 259 billion shares were wrongfully issued, and the company issued the same amount to the CMKM treasury to offest it, what if 518 billion shares are eliminated or retired. Then if there is hardly any float and the naked electronic shares is very high, this could skyrocket the book value of our shares. The naked short, if held by the company, could give us a multiple of our current value. Understand that if the company issues a dividend it means outright “war” and there is no more room for negotiations for those who are short. A dividend is a punch made directly in their face. It is the last resort option, we would like a “settlement” and a peaceful interpleader that pays us nicely. A settlement is better than a dividend, but I must agree with shareholders as to they have had a enough time. It’s time to inflict some serious pain if they can’t make good on what they sold to the public. Where the line is drawn, only the attorney’s know. I am confident in what I know, and therefore I am more intrigued with how this will play out rather than when am I getting paid. I’m more in the mode of how much will I be paid rather than when will I get paid.
Very key points that need to be known this late in the game. 1. do we have assets? 2. is there a naked short? 3. does the company own the naked short? Well according to the recent conference call Kevin addressed my questions. 1. He said the Emerson Koch he recently met with and felt comfortable with what is has done. Basically Emerson in my opinion verifies the assets and well as my previous conversation with Kevin that CMKM has substantial assets. 2. Kevin outright said there is a naked short and he identified them with me who they were. Etrade, Ameritrade and TD Waterhouse. I also verified through a phone call to the transfer agent that these firms were playing games with their clients that they ordered certs and they were quote “lost” when in fact they never placed an order with the TA for a cert. 3. Most importantly Kevin said on the conference call that the naked short could give huge valuation to shareholders. The only way that could give bonafide shareholders valuation is if electronic shares are owned by CMKM.
I have been silent for a long time because I am confident in where this is going. I’m not happy with the constant delays, but understand it is not the company creating the delays, it is the non cooperation of the brokerage firms. The attorneys are running the show, I am glad they are running the show. We are obviously close to getting a conclusion on this saga. I could care less if the whole market place gets cleaned up, all I care about is us getting paid. I bought CMKM to make money not clean up the marketplace. It is not CMKM’s responsibility to clean up the marketplace. It is the government that is responsible. If they have to pay us to shut up, I’ll take it. Other companies and their shareholders need to step up and determine their own destiny.
It is the sad reality of the situation, but let’s be serious, if CMKM locked in the shorts and it get’s us paid that is all that matters to me. Call it selfish, I don’t care, I’ve been in this long enough and all I want is the payoff.
The Listener
isn't it great to be in cmkx pedro - - - - -
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 7, 2008 18:37:58 GMT -5
By: david_stevens 07 Jul 2008, 02:13 PM EDT Msg. 739902 of 740003 Jump to msg. # kevin said alot before he went quiet - ive confirmed this with several people
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 7, 2008 18:39:48 GMT -5
By: my69z 07 Jul 2008, 02:48 PM EDT Msg. 739907 of 740004 Jump to msg. # What I can't understand about "Urban" is....every deal he's associated with outside of CMKX,,,,he's always called a crook,,,scammer....requested to have stocks deposited into 18 accts,,,couldn't pay because the SEC was watchin his accts,,,Jan '05 was lookin to movin 486 claims...."Entg" pops up 8 months later,,,,to now...."was and are under investigation by the F.B.I.".
So he was dirty in alllll these other deals but wait....on "CMKX",, he's done everything imaginable under the sun for the benefit of the shareholders??
Don't see it myself.....wayyy to much pre-CMKX history.
And I can't think when was the last time i saw someone who turns out to be some great piece of an investigation,,,,face plastered all over the place.
Only a nut would believe the "Govt",,SEC....F.B.I. or whoever,,,would see that as a good tactic....what would be the benefit for one??
Hell,,,,look at the Olympic Park bomber.....he got paid for puttin him out there cause he was innocent.
lol
My bet is,,,,everyone named in that SEC case also hears from the DOJ.....including Urban and it won't be for a,,,,look where they are now a year later.....interview.
Chris
By: rosencrantz2010 07 Jul 2008, 02:57 PM EDT Msg. 739908 of 740005 (This msg. is a reply to 739907 by my69z.) Jump to msg. # my69z,
i see your point, but i'd be a lot happier if the government would step it up a bit. this endless twirling around and around is making me dizzy.
i'd be a lot happier is we all knew for sure one way or the other, as i know a few tens of thousands of other cmkx investors would be too.
By: my69z 07 Jul 2008, 03:15 PM EDT Msg. 739915 of 740006 (This msg. is a reply to 739908 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # Rosen,,,the Govt in what sense??
By: rosencrantz2010 07 Jul 2008, 03:23 PM EDT Msg. 739921 of 740006 (This msg. is a reply to 739915 by my69z.) Jump to msg. # my69z,
as in setting up a Kangaroo Court! lol no, not relaly.
seriously,,, it seems as though some of these proceedings are on a slow track. i know many have commented about the speed of recent filings by edwards and others but it still strikes me as slow. but, not having much familiarity with court proceedings i honestly can't tell if it's slow or fast in terms of the legal proceedings,,, it just seems slow from an outsider's perspective. i believe you've even commented once or twice about the lack of speed surrounding some of the court proceedings.
no, i guess i'm more interested in where you see things going at this point. for example, i can't imagine frizzell is doing this on his own dime or out of the goodness of his heart. the same with kevin. and so, the question becomes, what do they see as an outcome. they must think they can get some decent money out of edwards and urban, or their associates.
but given what has transpired so far, what are you thinking about the court actions.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 7, 2008 18:44:06 GMT -5
Cont'd from above....By: my69z 07 Jul 2008, 04:43 PM EDT Msg. 739939 of 740006(This msg. is a reply to 739921 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # Rosen,,,," as in setting up a Kangaroo Court! lol no, not relaly." I agree,,,,imo...the cases are real,,,would require wayyy to many thngs to this extent....and the claim block that Shore wanted never belonged to CMKX.i understand Walkers dad worked there,,,,,but he was a director and not runin tha show over there. " seriously,,, it seems as though some of these proceedings are on a slow track. i know many have commented about the speed of recent filings by edwards and others but it still strikes me as slow." I think if this is really all there is to be included in our suit....those that are already named,,,,then it's actually movin at a decent speed.....but if there's stillll going to add,,,,then imo....it is movin slow. And here's the kicker.....with the Ewdards info that came out,,,,they have "good cause" as to why they haven't served Urban...AND those others.But we'll see,,,,,if they finally move to publcate....that'll say alot.I think they will because it makes no sense to start that back up AGAIN and not act on it when most had gotten used to why they hadn't already and made up their own reasonings as to why...it was starting to be accepted imo. " i can't imagine frizzell is doing this on his own dime or out of the goodness of his heart. the same with kevin. and so, the question becomes, what do they see as an outcome. they must think they can get some decent money out of edwards and urban, or their associates." That was my whole point to Gus.....what if CMKX really is in the shape they say it is today.....all they'd ahve to say is,,,,"we" didn't cause this damage and did the best we could,,,,,BUUTTT...for all those who still can't get a cert,,,,,,please insert your info here. Having the "largest short ever" is one thing,,,,,who benefits from it is another issue.When "unshareholder" came out...it made me consider a whole nother angle to "largest short",,,,,Kevin/Bill have never,,,never been about in ground assets. " but given what has transpired so far, what are you thinking about the court actions." Look at the judgement mins.....Edwards is cooperating on the $33M,,,so people who are runin around alll over the place sayin.....we'll never collect,,,,are obviously not reading tha docs. I think they'vbe already collected it cause there's a line through how much intrest he'll have to pay.....basically,,,,,no intrest from Edwards.So either Kevin/Bill are stupid to not ask for intrest,,,,or it's already collected. And yep....i don't understand how Koch only asks for 1/2 of everything the NASD AND SEC said Edwards did.... ? Was it maybe a compramise that they just vaguley threw out there and hoped noone would notice so they didn't see a bunch of blow back by shareholders??.....but thats' why they continue to make people look at them as borderline shady,,,,,all Kevin had to say was......we've reached a negotiated settlement. But then again....their vaguness worked cause not one single discussion about it was even started.....I tried,,,but....lol The recent stuff is good as long as there's more to finally come.....but left to stand alone,,,,,it's crap. By: rosencrantz2010 07 Jul 2008, 05:04 PM EDT Msg. 739949 of 740007(This msg. is a reply to 739939 by my69z.) Jump to msg. # my69z, thanks for all your input and effort. i assure you it is greatly appreciated by many.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 7, 2008 18:55:40 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 07 Jul 2008, 03:36 PM EDT Msg. 739925 of 740007 (This msg. is a reply to 739918 by my69z.) Jump to msg. # my69z,
the reason for not seeing "a single convo about it" is, i suspect, because most people are like me and aren't sure what to make of it.
first, it's wonderful cmkm gets the win, but what exactly did we win? sure, we can't sneeze at $33m but the guy took more than that. so, is it a win for us?
second, why no comment from tyler? why no whooping and dancing from the boys in texas?
third, there seems to be a feeling among many on the board that edwards will never pay,,, for a variety of reasons - he's hidden the assets, he appears broke, he will thumb his nose at the SEC, etc.
and four, most people think this decision will just somehow be argued by edwards or his surrogates down the line and nothing good for the shareholders will come of it.
there is a great deal of ignorance about the court system and what it all means,,, and i certainly count myself in with that group.
so, the more you can explain step by step by thinking "out loud" about the court actions will help many of us try to figure out what happened and what might happen down the line.
By: my69z 07 Jul 2008, 04:48 PM EDT Msg. 739941 of 740007 (This msg. is a reply to 739925 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # Rosen,,,," and four, most people think this decision will just somehow be argued by edwards or his surrogates down the line and nothing good for the shareholders will come of it."
Nope,,,can't do that.....he would of had to file a Good Cause explanation as to why he was so late joining the suit,,,,,he could actually still file a dispute....but he'd still have to answer to tha suit,,,and given they said he hired an attorney to liquidate to pay CMKX.....my bet is no dispute gets filed.
I would've never betted that he would've cooperated with CMKX to that extent. LOL
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 7, 2008 18:58:18 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 07 Jul 2008, 03:41 PM EDT Msg. 739926 of 740007 Jump to msg. # now this is an amazing pr, think about the price they give and how much it really cost to purchase those shares, where did the additional value come from
By: diamondguru-one 07 Jul 2008, 10:02 AM EDT Msg. 32431 of 32485 Jump to msg. # Fortress Financial Group, Inc. -- Substantial Stock Repurchases 9:38a ET July 7, 2008 (Market Wire) Fortress Financial Group, Inc. (PINKSHEETS: FFGO) confirms that the Company has repurchased an amount of 14,709,083,248 shares of its Common Stock and cancelled an additional amount of 1,500,00,000 shares of its Common Stock. A total amount of 16,209,083,248 shares of the Company's shares of Common Stock are now being cancelled by the Company's Transfer Agent. This represents a 27.4% reduction in the Company's outstanding shares of Common Stock.
The total cost to date of this repurchase of the Company's shares of Common Stock is now in the amount of US$204,456,256. This valuation excluded the value of the Company's intangible assets and the Company's stockholdings in St James Capital Holdings, Inc.
The Company's Net Asset Value is valued in the amount of US$617,541,466 as at July 7, 2008. This translates into a Net Asset Value per Share in the amount of 1.44 cents based upon the number of the Company's outstanding shares of Common Stock now being in the amount of 42,941,766,809. The Company has marked down its valuation in respect of its stockholdings in Hunt Gold Corporation to a price of US$0.002 per Hunt Gold Corporation share, for the purposes of this calculation.
The Company's Management notes that the Company has lost hundreds of millions of dollars "on paper" in respect of its stockholdings in Hunt Gold Corporation. It is expected that this will be rectified in the medium term. The Company's Management remains extremely bullish in respect of Hunt Gold Corporation's prospects and upon the value of that Company's Gold Assets.
The Company's Management considers the outstanding number of its shares of Common Stock to be considerably higher than desired and intends to undertake further and more aggressive steps to reduce this number of outstanding shares, in the short term.
The Company is filing a very detailed Form 8-K with the SEC in and during today, in respect of these transactions.
The Company has been formally notified that several unrelated stockholders now hold in excess of 5% of the Company's "free trading" stock based upon the reduced number of outstanding shares. Several parties have informally notified the Company that they have now accumulated significant amounts of the Company's shares of Common Stock.
The Company is awaiting the filing of these various Form 13(g) and Form 13(d) notifications by these third party investors, with the SEC; and upon receipt thereof will be in a position to advise our stockholders as to the exact number of shares in the "free float."
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 7, 2008 19:02:26 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 07 Jul 2008, 04:11 PM EDT Msg. 739935 of 740008Jump to msg. # urban gets around! it's all over the press. "Kidman and Urban have a little girl." By: rosencrantz2010 07 Jul 2008, 04:16 PM EDT Msg. 739936 of 740008(This msg. is a reply to 739935 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # honestly, i don't see what nicole kidman would see in urban - given their age difference and his weight problem - but i'm sure nicole has heard the whispers and no doubt has her breath taken away by his commanding presence in bed.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 7, 2008 19:04:20 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 07 Jul 2008, 04:03 PM EDT Msg. 739932 of 740008 (This msg. is a reply to 739927 by sportsman93306.) Jump to msg. # sport it was written around interplead time you remember that precedent setting interplead that was so important it had to be done just right and was about more than just cmkx.
It was written when kevin almost communicated with us, you know when he answered the phones.
And yes kevin and bill run the new cmkx, with no assets attached, no info attached, no cert from entourage given, no interplead given, no cert pull deposition given, No info but the boxes given from urban's lawyer to another lawyer in her firm, but non of the opinion letters, or correspondance from roger to leslie or leslie to roger while this was happening.
The old cmkx was run by the gov't and bob, with help from the team including the og, just sealed
By: klonopin2mg 07 Jul 2008, 04:30 PM EDT Msg. 739937 of 740008 (This msg. is a reply to 739932 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # gus',
again...
we AGREE! was told well prior to march 07 that "the interplead was completed", then only later told it wasn't in march 07. can't prove a d*mn thing though. i'll just have to go with logic and what was said at the time. the above was not from a source, more like straight from the horses mouth.
was there more than one? who freakin knows....if they wanted chaos, mayhem, misdirection, unconventional communications, etc....
THE PLAN is working to perfection....
i must admit, i've been astonished for a long, long time!
"it isn't fun, is it?"
Hope You Enjoyed Canada Day Neighbor!
klon'...i'm old school!e
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 7, 2008 19:06:50 GMT -5
By: my69z 07 Jul 2008, 05:13 PM EDT Msg. 739952 of 740009 (This msg. is a reply to 735148 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # Gus,,,this post....."Kevin never says that "the SEC has Not collected money" from the firms that were Naked Short CMKX in order for us to get our certificates."
" He words his sentences in a manner that he is not lying. But he never says the SEC DIDNT collect money."
You said your here for the NSS payout......this isn't a NSS payment route,,,,think about it.....Seaboard Rule,,,Worldcom,,,etc.....
"Also notice how June 18th the SEC said they invited Urban Casavant to attend the conference they had. Invited Him? Does that sound like you are going after the Mastermind of a scheme that stole from investors."
"Urban" wasn't the only one who didn't show....I can't understand 4 the life of me why things are always focused as an "Urban" only issue.
This is civil....that's why they word their cases as an invite....the DOJ has a differnt kind of "invite" for whoever they wanna speak to.
By: gusjarvis 07 Jul 2008, 06:10 PM EDT Msg. 739973 of 740009 (This msg. is a reply to 739952 by my69z.) Jump to msg. # chris exactly, this isn't the route they were part of the route but forgot their way in the foggy forrest of nda's, they did a great job though and still are. They told us that all along, but the way they tell it, I guess they have to be convincing.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 7, 2008 19:10:49 GMT -5
By: my69z 07 Jul 2008, 05:21 PM EDT Msg. 739960 of 740012(This msg. is a reply to 739949 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # Rsoen,,,servin "Urban"...they could now tell Denton,,,,here's Good Cause as to why we didn't acton our previous right to publicate: Shortly after reciving Right to Publicate,,,we came in contact with Mr.Edwards & began working in cooperation with his attorney to recover assets.It was time consuming but we are now prepared to move forward against the remaining individuals. Or somewhat along those lines probably.....lol And it would "legally" explain why we didn't see that publication yet. By: spunkwater 07 Jul 2008, 05:32 PM EDT Msg. 739962 of 740014(This msg. is a reply to 739960 by my69z.) Jump to msg. # my69z You said "And it would "legally" explain why we didn't see that publication yet." Plausible, but I kinda doubt that the court would buy that excuse. I don't know what it would be, but I'd guess that there is some other reason they still have not done a publication. BTW I too appreciate your work and posts, Chris. Plus, I have listened to you a lot in Hybrid's Show Me room. You are a good speaker as well as writer.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 7, 2008 19:21:08 GMT -5
hmmmm.... Okemo....... you see this ??Bees are buzzingggg bout FFGO (5 trillion A/S.)... Mona Lisa Smiles DIAMOND DIGGER Great News Today!« Thread Started Today at 4:48pm » FFGO!!! : After Hours: 0.04 +0.04 / +35,000.00% Vol. 750,000 FFGO: biz.yahoo.com/iw/080707/0413339.html Hunt Gold news.moneycentral.msn.com/provide....0707&id=8863320 Today 7/7 Urban goes to court? Can you say..DEFAULT?? We have been talking about the possible FFGO connection to cmkx. Interesting that UC's court date coincides with FFGO skyrocketing. And it's official about FFGO...Ranpbill called etrade and confirmed its true..also MSN..etc...all confirming FFGO! 4:22 PM) bobakclabs: FROM .0001 to 0.04 (4:22 PM) gkhaus1: what's the link with cmkx? for fact? (4:22 PM) 1970moneymaker1970: was it a glitch (4:22 PM) Mihaly12: (4:23 PM) Mona Lisa Smiles: no glitch (4:23 PM) Mona Lisa Smiles: real By: cbaughan 07 Jul 2008, 06:50 PM EDT Msg. 739998 of 740022Jump to msg. # Further confirmation! finance.aol.com/quotes/fortress-finl-group-inc-wyo/ffgo/nao look in upper right hand corner...extended hours By: gusjarvis 07 Jul 2008, 06:39 PM EDT Msg. 739993 of 740030(This msg. is a reply to 739992 by david_stevens.) Jump to msg. # ya david did you know that gwgo's o/s after the forwards splits brought it to alomst cmkx's exact ticker number, just a coincidence probably given the massive number it was, right. Things are looking interesting finally, and was it really urban's court date today? By: cbaughan 07 Jul 2008, 08:18 PM EDT Msg. 740025 of 740035 Jump to msg. # Time (EST) Volume Price Exchange Bought/Sold Tran/Type Legend 16:08:36 750000 0.0351 + OTCEQ_NBB T (F) 15:53:36 4000000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 15:32:36 999999 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 15:31:54 999999 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 15:31:27 999999 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 15:26:03 900000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 15:15:45 4000000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 15:05:36 9000000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 14:58:42 30000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 14:38:06 999999 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 14:38:06 999999 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 14:38:06 999999 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 14:34:36 500000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 14:33:15 2000000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 14:33:12 9000000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 14:32:03 3000000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 14:00:54 5000000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 13:42:15 1000000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 13:38:51 250000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 13:38:33 1000000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 13:27:24 10000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 13:22:18 750000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 13:22:06 1000000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 13:22:06 1013849 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 13:22:06 550000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 13:22:06 800000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 13:22:06 1000000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 12:53:27 3500000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 12:44:45 7649000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 12:44:24 5000000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 12:17:03 1000000 0.0001 + OTCEQ_NBB 12:11:27 Anyone know what the "T" and "(F)" mean after the .0351 trade??
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 7, 2008 19:48:26 GMT -5
From the Millionaire board.... ty Pennypauly
ty Illumin8
I spoke to Donald Stoecklein « Thread Started Today at 2:44pm »
-Donald Stoecklein is holding the 45 Million shares of Entourage.He put me on hold and pulled out the Cert and it was the Original Cert. -He said he is waiting for a court order from somebody sometime to distribute it."I'd love to get a subpoena from a court to turn it over" Only a Legal authority can request it.
-I asked him if it was true that Frizzell is holding the ETGMF cert(Frizzell told shareholders he is holding it) He said that he is Holding it in his safe and he doubts a new one would have been issued because Entourage would have contacted him to cancel the original Cert before issuing a new one.
-He said the Task Force was attempting to distribute Entourage but couldnt Properly Identify the shareholders. -He said "We are the Custodians for the ETGMF shares"
-I said I thought money was collected for our certs being that Trillions of shares were sold to people and only 703Billion were outstanding. There would not have been enough certs.I told him that money that was collected was put in a trust. He said well who collected it?(Like as if he doesnt know)I asked if that was possible. He said "I doubt it,but it is a possibility" (Why not just say No?) -When I told Kevin West that I thought money was collected for our Certs, Kevin Said "I hope you're right" (He didnt deny it it either)
-I asked him If he paid Acca to be on the boards. His answer was No "What benefit would that be for us to do that"(IMO He wouldnt tell you if he did so that answer is useless)
He said "We believed based on the so called experts that there was a Huge Naked Short in the company"
He acted as if he didn't know CMKM settled and that Edwards Settled.
He wouldnt answer the question of "Who is the Trustee? I said if there is a Trustee then their is a Trust. I said You don't designate a Trustee if there is no Trust.He changed the subject and said he didnt want to argue.
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In reality, West and Frizzell are stopping anyone that illegally obtained shares from being counted. They are trying to cancel illegal shares.Including shares that discount brokers have in their name which is against Nevada State Law.That is good for us because that just means more money for us.
Some people dont like that because they have shares that were illegally obtained. Maybe Acca and others have shares like that and thats why they don't like West and Frizzell. Some people even have counterfeit shares. West should cancel those.
Its good that CMKM has a Judgement for $33 Mil. but that is nothing compared to what is in the Trust accounts and whats in the CitiBank accounts. we will take anything we can get.
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