WOW!!!! Thanks to sandi.....
By: executivevault
20 Jul 2008, 02:47 PM EDT
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leo,
but what if the original cmkm was wrapped up, and all shareholders were properly certed, and the final agreement was the distribution of entourage shares and other assets?
That would mean the original cmkm was not shorted and everything is clean and green right?
what a crazy world
ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=743836By: leowanta
20 Jul 2008, 02:51 PM EDT
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By: newtopennies
20 Jul 2008, 11:34 AM EDT
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VAULT...THAT 1000 share in a 'cert' Trust is a very interesting hypothetical statement. Would that imply that all shareholders would be treated 'equally' by the trust, no matter the size of their holdings, having already been compensated by the 'pro-rata' distribution? There's an awful lot going on in your post. A 'cert' trust alleviates the terms 'naked' or 'FTD'S' as far as where the money may have come from. Kinda like,'It's a trust, and the portion is the same for everyone'! So once the shareholders have some cash, you are also saying ANOTHER ENTITY like a Berkshire Hathaway company will be offered to CMKM Diamond shareholders? This is basically a different treatment of the rumors we were hoping for, right? We may have money from sales, trusts, royalties, etc., and an opportunity to go into the future with the mineral-extracting conglomerate. So there's money sloshing around all over the globe designated for us, but the question remains, WHEN WILL WE SEE IT?
?? TIA. eom.
By: executivevault
20 Jul 2008, 11:47 AM EDT
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NTP, I believe we are waiting on a distribution of Entourage Shares and "OTHER ASSETS". I noticed they mentioned "OTHER ASSETS" 9 or so times in the PR's.
I like the theory that the original company was wrapped up on March 29, 2007 when UC resigned. Also at that time I liked the theory that all bona fides were identified. I also like the theory that after march 29, 2007 the cmkm name was converted out to tyler but then 622b unregisturd shares were identified, which would be a major problem becuase tyler only has one sharholder.
So when the distribution of "OTHER ASSETS" comes, I liked the theory that it will be pro-rate based on your holdings, but the entourage portion would be an even distribution to get each "BONA FIDE" into the company, at which time they announce a pre-ipo discounted offer or something like that.
One never knows, it is such a crazy world
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1. executivevault....your post is CONVERSION...you may not convert the 4.1 trillion trust to shares of anything....and definitely NOT pro rata....you post proves the company is attempting to use the shareholder's trust for their benefit....NADA...that is illegal, you cannot USE OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY ...anyway you want to color it...
2. other assests as in the DTCC money should NOT be given to the company...those funds should come directly to the shareholder.
3. since we no longer HAVE A TRUSTEE to make distribution...i request the SEC do it legal and proper and take it out of the hands of the company ASAP
leowanta
By: executivevault
20 Jul 2008, 02:58 PM EDT
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1. executivevault....your post is CONVERSION...you may not convert the 4.1 trillion trust to shares of anything....and definitely NOT pro rata....you post proves the company is attempting to use the shareholder's trust for their benefit....NADA...that is illegal, you cannot USE OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY ...anyway you want to color it...
>>>>>WHAT 4.1 TRILLION TRUST?
2. other assests as in the DTCC money should NOT be given to the company...those funds should come directly to the shareholder.
>>>>>WHAT DTCC MONEY?
3. since we no longer HAVE A TRUSTEE to make distribution...i request the SEC do it legal and proper and take it out of the hands of the company ASAP
>>>>DS IS TRUSTEE
ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=743841By: leowanta
20 Jul 2008, 02:53 PM EDT
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executivevault....learning that Maheu quit and gave the trustee to urban...your post is big time bad news for urban, since he "wrapped up" his business and failed to make our distribution....when he "wrapped Up" his business...including holding our trust in his name....which is CONVERSION
legally, wrapping up and not making distribution is defined in the law as EMBEZZLEMENT. Title 18 if you care to look it up.
leowanta
By: executivevault
20 Jul 2008, 03:01 PM EDT
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Leo,
Have you read the trust agreement? What was the time frame on the distribution?
When did Maheu do this----> "learning that Maheu quit and gave the trustee to urban"
"failed to make our distribution" ? when did that happen? If it happened next week or the week after would it still be considered "failed"??
ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=743845By: leowanta
20 Jul 2008, 02:59 PM EDT
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as you can read from my posts, i am through waiting on those "in charge" to do the right thing by the shareholders....
one should understand...you never, ever back a people in a corner with no way out.....that's what you insiders have done to 39,000 shareholders with your "locked-in" game plan to force us to stay in this until 2010....i'm done with it. the law will be enforced, i request the SEC make distribution right away.
leowanta
By: executivevault
20 Jul 2008, 03:04 PM EDT
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leo,
"i request the SEC make distribution right away"
BAM! you go girl, that should do it!
ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=743846By: leowanta
20 Jul 2008, 03:01 PM EDT
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david stevens ...say goodby to being our trustee...
i'm through trusting you folks to do the right thing...growing your company with our money is not an option for you folks.
leowanta
By: executivevault
20 Jul 2008, 03:05 PM EDT
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leo,
take your meds ok, good luck
ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=743847By: leowanta
20 Jul 2008, 03:06 PM EDT
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executivevault...
no, i have not been afforded the information about your trust agreement...you insiders have kept that bit of info "secret"...
but i don't care about your agreement, cause it's illegal from the get go...the money does not belong to you to make a trust of it in the first place...and as far as the time frame for distribution...it should have occured May 2006 without fail
june of 2006, Maheu quit, and he quit also as trustee, tho stoecklein failed to state that in his letter, it is true, he turned everything back over to urban at that time.....bad news for shareholders...at that time we should have approached the SEC to take custody of the money and make distribution...
bottom line, we best get paid Monday, otherwise the SEC will be takin names and filing lawsuits and making our distribution....that's their job, that's what they get paid to do.
leowanta
By: executivevault
20 Jul 2008, 03:09 PM EDT
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leo, does your room have windows?
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