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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 25, 2009 12:36:44 GMT -5
By: chrisl_weekend 25 Jan 2009, 09:44 AM EST Msg. 802163 of 802251 Jump to msg. # Think about the time line of events that transpired with this recent information. Back in 2006 a few others talked to this person who stated they "collected money". Now collected is past tense as when I spoke with him to this person they used the same word "collected" past tense. Does this mean they still are collecting or have been collecting since 2006. Does not matter cause a court order stated they cannot talk about it. Early/Mid 2006 was prior to Kevin West. Kevin West was hired as "Interim CEO" in August 2006. This information was before the hiring of Kevin West. Who was the CEO of CMKM in 2006? Thats right Urban Casavant. Bill Frizzell did not become "Corporate Counsel" till 2007 when Kevin took over the reigns. So what makes this interesting is Urban was still in charge. Another problem is the buying/selling of certs during 2006/2007/2008. Think about this for a second. If they would of stopped the T/A back in 2005 or early 2006 of transferring certs out of people's names into others there would be an accurate accounting of who owns what correct? I mean some certs could of been bought and sold 3-5 times during this time. Right? So if money was collected how would they really distribute money when the T/A was still allowing transferring of certs to go on? Who was in control of CMKX in 2006? The company was revoked no active officers or management who gave a d*mn it seems but money was collected supposedly. How would they distribute money and to whom? They had no records that were accurate enough to distribute. Now lets bring this to the present. Say money was collected and still has been collected during the last 2.5 years what is the major obstacle again? Who are the bonafides? So all you people that blame Tyler for the problems might be time to stop. They were not running this show back in 2002/2003/2004/2005/2006 and in all reality 2007. How do you distribute money to shareholders of a company when the company does not even know who the bonafide shareholders are? They system is crooked but Tyler is not. I don't care much for Tyler but the time line of events removes them from this equation. Now lets see what they do with this recent information and hold them accountable for this. By: gusjarvis 25 Jan 2009, 10:27 AM EST Msg. 802165 of 802253 (This msg. is a reply to 802163 by chrisl_weekend.) Jump to msg. # chrisl interesting, but what about the fact bill knew everything about the silver state bank fraud, we all did as it was all over the boards in early 05, but worked with urban with nda's for years. And collectively the og said some great things about urban including he was extorted after knowing those fraud records were on the net By: chrisl_weekend 25 Jan 2009, 10:41 AM EST Msg. 802169 of 802253 (This msg. is a reply to 802165 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # gusjarvis the Silver State Bank Fraud was out there a long time many were aware of it back then. Stick with what I typed and do not interject different stuff into and I will gladly have a discussion. How can money be distributed to shareholders if there is no clear accounting of who shareholders are? Who was running this company as there was no clear evidence of anyone being at the helm? Why are brokers still looking for certs today? Was Kevin West the CEO of this company when the original phone call took place? Urban is a crook plain and simple gusjarvis. His friends are crooks. It was easier to print paper then it was to work claims. Ok lets move on now past that.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 25, 2009 12:37:26 GMT -5
By: monetaryshift 25 Jan 2009, 10:37 AM EST Msg. 802168 of 802253 Jump to msg. # SEC Lady told me the 622B unregistered shares were seperate from the BonaFides - I guess Tyler represents the 622B unregistered shares/40k shareholders - now we know Y the company used GOT CMKX? ?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 25, 2009 12:38:27 GMT -5
By: chrisl_weekend 25 Jan 2009, 10:46 AM EST Msg. 802172 of 802254 Jump to msg. #
jacbert I do not think Tyler is in control what I do believe is Tyler was oblivious to this information. When this information was out there over 2 years ago nobody wanted to rock the boat cause they were nervous it could screw things up. That is why I always laughed and said the phone calls never took place just another pumper tactic.
Now it is almost 3 years later and I make the phone call and the same information was told to me.
Tyler had no clue that is a fact. They know now of this information so lets see how they handle it. The people that made these calls and communication are not lying Tyler knows this now.
jacbert there is a smoking gun now.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 25, 2009 12:40:41 GMT -5
By: chrisl_weekend 25 Jan 2009, 10:41 AM EST Msg. 802169 of 802255 (This msg. is a reply to 802165 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. #
gusjarvis the Silver State Bank Fraud was out there a long time many were aware of it back then. Stick with what I typed and do not interject different stuff into and I will gladly have a discussion.
How can money be distributed to shareholders if there is no clear accounting of who shareholders are?
Who was running this company as there was no clear evidence of anyone being at the helm?
Why are brokers still looking for certs today?
Was Kevin West the CEO of this company when the original phone call took place?
Urban is a crook plain and simple gusjarvis. His friends are crooks. It was easier to print paper then it was to work claims.
Ok lets move on now past that.
By: gusjarvis 25 Jan 2009, 10:49 AM EST Msg. 802173 of 802255 (This msg. is a reply to 802169 by chrisl_weekend.) Jump to msg. #
no no no chris because that is vital to
the future, the fact all entities and bill and don and bob and roger and you and me and the bank knew that this fraud happened that means everything that happened after that happened knowing urban and je money laundered and were criminals and scamming us. So to say years later that how could we have known, that means you are a liar or working with nda's
So pretending not to know this and work with urban for years is vital. It proves that this was either what bud said and a scam that turned into a sting and we were working with the sec and task force now or that whole group screwed us and we will have an easy lawsuit. And chrisl look at the silver platter updates bill put out after he knew this money laundering fraud happened, after he knew the checks were written and to who (checks were still written for millions after the subpoenaes and just let go throw, nobody including bill or the entities involved doing anything), while we still had major assets.
so ya don't forget the past in your little posts of the future and if you have to forget that then you are full of chit
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 25, 2009 12:41:16 GMT -5
cont'd.....
By: chrisl_weekend 25 Jan 2009, 10:56 AM EST Msg. 802175 of 802256 (This msg. is a reply to 802173 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. #
See gusjarvis this is where you and I will always disagree and I am being respectful here but it is obvious you cannot have a discussion without insults.
I am not addressing that part of this issue cause I really do not care. How is that?
I care about the recent events from the past events which is a representative of the DTCC stated to shareholder almost 3 years ago money was collected. See how that works.
I made a phone call spoke to the same person and received the same information with additional information of there being a court order.
You seem to have a problem staying on the subject at hand.
gusjarvis I will help you. Answer the questions I ask before you go off on one of your tangents.
If money was collected why hasn't it been distributed?
If there is a court order to gag these people why and who originated this order and for what reason?
Do you believe part of the problem is they truly do not have a clue who the bonafides are and could this be one of the reasons they have not distributed the supposed funds?
Opinions on these questions are welcomed gusjarvis as we do not have the answers.
So please answer these questions first.
By: gusjarvis 25 Jan 2009, 11:24 AM EST Msg. 802190 of 802257 (This msg. is a reply to 802175 by chrisl_weekend.) Jump to msg. #
ok chris no insults and answers
and they are simple. Eagletech won their rico case, criminal, that means they already won their civil, it is just how much. Those shareholders have nothing yet but have won, we have won but have nothing yet. Byrne has won his case already with his overwhelming evidence but has hidden most of the damaging evidence so far and most of the 8000 emails. They have the ring of billionaires and the head of the ring already and have their emails but doesn't out the ring yet or the head of it. O'Quinn is saying nothing and nothing about his massive suit on tv, cmkx hid all their broker info bill collected, they hid their interplead and cert pull work product, all nobo list companies are not talking but have easy wins, cnbc said the story was hard to tell but have all the info, I could go on.
Most stocks were covered by late 2006 by my info from someone in the industry, cmkx certs were paid for as a transaction had to happen for those waiting months to get their certs but that transaction hidden and work product hidden and interplead again hidden. Lets not be stupid and think kevin couldn't have sued and got the entourage certs, the interplead, and our work product. He didnt get them because they couldn't show what was hidden. And they worked on them they know what is in them and can't say.
Everything sealed nice and tight like a, oh you said to be respectful.
when the other half of eagletech's fraud case is unsealed we will get paid imo, the money is clearly already won but the nda's continue until it is over for all the companies and the classaction settlement is announced
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 25, 2009 12:45:21 GMT -5
cont'd....
By: gusjarvis 25 Jan 2009, 11:40 AM EST Msg. 802202 of 802258 (This msg. is a reply to 802175 by chrisl_weekend.) Jump to msg. #
the answer to all those questions is
naked shorting is not one company, it was proven that it was system and that had to be fixed. The money is held and has been in some form of iou or another for years now waiting to get printed up when the bail out was announced that was planned years ago. Nobody is talking in any company as there is a gag order on them all, a poster talked about this awhile back when he talked to a couple ceo and they said they couldn't talk and byrne said he heard rumblings of a full market settlement years ago but says nothing of it now.
The answer is simple, the cert pull proved our bona fides, the list is in, it was in the sealed interpleader and we were the precedent setter kevin said but no company will get paid and we won't get paid until the classaction is settled. This was planned years ago and fixed years ago despite how it looks.
you keep up your good WORK now
By: chrisl_weekend 25 Jan 2009, 11:42 AM EST Msg. 802204 of 802259 (This msg. is a reply to 802175 by chrisl_weekend.) Jump to msg. #
gusjarvis just for you again: Show me in a post where you answered one of these questions below. You went on a Eagletech tirade. That is what you are good at gusjarvis deflecting questions into different subjects.
Lets try this again just answer the questions below;
If money was collected why hasn't it been distributed?
If there is a court order to gag these people why and who originated this order and for what reason?
Do you believe part of the problem is they truly do not have a clue who the bonafides are and could this be one of the reasons they have not distributed the supposed funds?
Opinions on these questions are welcomed gusjarvis as we do not have the answers.
So please answer these questions first.�
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 25, 2009 12:47:41 GMT -5
By: chrisl_weekend 25 Jan 2009, 11:06 AM EST Msg. 802179 of 802259 Jump to msg. # I would like to thank the Admin in INES Room and the other person (you know who you are) for talking me into making this phone call on Friday. I always thought you guys were nuts in regards to this information but it does give me some hope that the corruption of the system might not get swept under the rug. I hope that the powers to be do not let this slip away quietly as the confirmation of this information is not only from me (level 5 basher) as tramp would say but from respected individuals on the boards. So I thank you for making me look like a fool but I still think most of the saps in CMKX are just that saps.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 25, 2009 12:52:13 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 25 Jan 2009, 11:16 AM EST Msg. 802182 of 802259 (This msg. is a reply to 802179 by chrisl_weekend.) Jump to msg. #
chrisl,
let me see if i understand your interpretation of events.
first, you believe urban was/is a scam artist. that there never was any attempt made by him to explore for diamonds, etc., but instead he simply was using the acreage to pump anddump shares of cmkx.
second, in the process of pumping and dumping those shares, the market naked shorted those shares by a wide margin and in the process of getting revoked, etc. the truth came out about the naked short and the government then stepped in to correct the matter. and the way that it will be corrected is to pay shareholders a modest amount to compensate.
third, what cmkx does have is slowly being put back together by the tyler group. and that in the end cmkx will trade again and have a modest number of claims on which to build a mining company.
okay?
finally, urban will go scot free and apparently never have to pay anything since the courts or whoever seem unwilling or unable to even issue a summary judgement on the man.
is that about right? and am i leaving out any important items or thoughts? thanks.
By: chrisl_weekend 25 Jan 2009, 11:27 AM EST Msg. 802193 of 802259 (This msg. is a reply to 802182 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. #
let me see if i understand your interpretation of events.
first, you believe urban was/is a scam artist. that there never was any attempt made by him to explore for diamonds, etc., but instead he simply was using the acreage to pump anddump shares of cmkx.
Yes
second, in the process of pumping and dumping those shares, the market naked shorted those shares by a wide margin and in the process of getting revoked, etc. the truth came out about the naked short and the government then stepped in to correct the matter. and the way that it will be corrected is to pay shareholders a modest amount to compensate.
Yes/No/Possibly
third, what cmkx does have is slowly being put back together by the tyler group. and that in the end cmkx will trade again and have a modest number of claims on which to build a mining company.
Not sure about that really do not care anymore. If money was collected to be distributed that is all I care about. If the company trades again in the future great if not so what I really do not care.
okay?
finally, urban will go scot free and apparently never have to pay anything since the courts or whoever seem unwilling or unable to even issue a summary judgement on the man.
Not sure about that. I could form an opinion on this but it will get twisted. Don't really care about Urban anymore. I care about is if money was collected where is it and why has it not been released? And who put the court order out to gag this information if true?
is that about right? and am i leaving out any important items or thoughts? thanks.
I hope that helps as all my posts will be gone come Monday morning.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 25, 2009 12:56:23 GMT -5
By: chrisl_weekend 25 Jan 2009, 11:39 AM EST Msg. 802200 of 802259 Jump to msg. #
nordic in INES how can they know who the "bonafides" are when they finally stopped Marco from buying/selling certs?
Think about that nordic. Now if they would of never allowed it the day revocation happened back in October 2005 and put a freeze on the T/A yes it would of been easy.
But Marco was buying/selling for almost 2 years. Not only Marco but others as well.
The same cert could of been sold 3 times.
I will use a phrase someone told me yesterday:
Cert selling is like musical chairs as long as the music continues you will never know who the true cert holders are. Once you stop the music now you can find out who the real cert holders are.
Hopefully this has stopped.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 25, 2009 12:57:54 GMT -5
By: nufced 25 Jan 2009, 11:54 AM EST Msg. 802208 of 802259 (This msg. is a reply to 802190 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # gusjarvis, where did you hear that? this is up-to-date..By: nufced 20 Jan 2009, 06:45 PM EST Msg. 7864 of 7864 to read .... click the link ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=802208
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 25, 2009 12:59:45 GMT -5
blu1236 Diamond Miner Any one hear from phoenix? « Thread Started on Jan 20, 2009, 10:55pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- He has been on boards but not posting that I see. Not hearing from him is a good sign. He would have jumped ship if Tyler was up to no good. As much as I distrust Tyler, something is being held under wraps. Lot's of guesses but they hold the cards. « Last Edit: Jan 20, 2009, 10:59pm by blu1236 » tenbeers TDEM Flyover Pilot Level 3 Re: Any one hear from phoenix? « Reply #1 on Jan 21, 2009, 6:38am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The not speaking seems to happen to everyone that gets dragged in to the inner circle of CMKX. blu1236 Diamond Miner Re: Any one hear from phoenix? « Reply #3 on Jan 22, 2009, 4:00am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I did not know Phoenix was involved in hiring Mark. Phoenix seemed fairly tight with UC at the party. But as time went on Phoenix was bent on exposing this mess and UC was not looking so good. He is good at investigating, I think that is why is is with tyler now. I really think if it was not right he would be out of Tyler. I am on the edge of doing ok or going BK. If I can rent out a building I'll be OK. Point is if I can get on the other side of my money mess and taxes I will go to Tyler and campout for a week and get some answers, or go to jail trying. kingofsiam Admonishedtrader OFFICIAL NO-MOD of PB70 Re: Any one hear from phoenix? « Reply #4 Yesterday at 3:48am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Seems only INSIDERS at Tyler get real information, The rest of us get stupid Mark songs and posts. MARK FAULK Earn your money. Keep your contract. Give us a real company and real information. Why would it be wrong to ask for an accounting of Mark Faulk has done so far. What he will do in the future? He has a contract for $10,000 per month and even if he had not recieved any money yet. He still has a contract. So far all I see (correct me if I am wrong). 1) A book that sold very little copies. 2) a Few Fireside chats that tell us nothing. 3) canceled updates anything I missed? « Last Edit: Yesterday at 4:28am by kingofsiam » cmkxunitedforum.proboards70.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=14048
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 25, 2009 12:59:55 GMT -5
By: nufced 25 Jan 2009, 11:54 AM EST Msg. 802208 of 802259 (This msg. is a reply to 802190 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # gusjarvis, where did you hear that? this is up-to-date..By: nufced 20 Jan 2009, 06:45 PM EST Msg. 7864 of 7864 to read .... click the link ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=802208 By: gusjarvis 25 Jan 2009, 12:04 PM EST Msg. 802215 of 802259 (This msg. is a reply to 802208 by nufced.) Jump to msg. # nufced eagletech already has convictions in their case, the charges are already proven my friend. The wallsteet portion of the suit has been sealed imo eagletech and sedona, eagletech already won so why don't their shareholders have their money, the same reason we don't. Why has only the crime family side been outed and convicted and the rest sealed, well they had to hide that part just like us Sedona Gets Discovery in Civil Case, Major News Location: Blogs Bud Burrell - Front and Center Posted by: bburrell 7/20/2006 1:29 PM For the last three plus, nearly four, years, I have told everyone who would listen that the Sedona case was not only the most important criminal prosecution along with Eagletech (the latter resulting in 4 criminal guilty pleas and 14 no contests), it was an absolutely the most important civil case in New York. The Judge in the case has ruled giving them discovery across the Board against the named defendants, including Ladenburg, Pershing, et al. She further instructed plaintiff's counsel to resubmit prior pleadings, indicating she would give consideration to the motions previously ruled on that were against the plaintiff's interests. The text of this opinion will be made available shortly to all. This is an action of enomous import to our entire cause. Coming on the heels of all the recent news including Harvey Pitts' Forbes article (which included use of a key catch phrase of mine used repeatedly about not wanting to "kill the goose laying the golden eggs"), and the many other reversals of positions to opposing naked shorting, this was both not expected, either in its timing or the force of the ruling. Anyone wanting a copy of this ruling may contact me through Robert O'Brien, to whom I have sent a copy, with my authorization to re-send it to any member of the site.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 25, 2009 13:01:53 GMT -5
By: reality.bytes 25 Jan 2009, 12:00 PM EST Msg. 802212 of 802259 (This msg. is a reply to 802208 by nufced.) Jump to msg. #
nuf- gus heard it in paltalk chat rooms. so it's gotta be true, dontcha think?
By: nufced 25 Jan 2009, 12:05 PM EST Msg. 802217 of 802259 (This msg. is a reply to 802212 by reality.bytes.) Jump to msg. #
reality..well they were wrong..and as for chrisl and your post, chris is only asking for Tyler to verify what he was told. not only was he told this on Friday, but other shareholders have been told the same thing, by the same official, over the last 3 years. this individual is a dept. head at the dtcc. I think thats fair enuff.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 25, 2009 13:04:15 GMT -5
By: nufced 25 Jan 2009, 11:54 AM EST Msg. 802208 of 802259 (This msg. is a reply to 802190 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # gusjarvis, where did you hear that? this is up-to-date..By: nufced 20 Jan 2009, 06:45 PM EST Msg. 7864 of 7864 to read .... click the link ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=802208 By: nufced 25 Jan 2009, 12:06 PM EST Msg. 802218 of 802259 (This msg. is a reply to 802215 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # please post the EATC ones, gus. Im only going by the court documents in the Florida case By: gusjarvis 25 Jan 2009, 12:06 PM EST Msg. 802219 of 802260 Jump to msg. # and here is rod young sayin rico proven, so nufced and friends just be happy for once, things look good RICO CHARGES ALREADY PROVEN IN EAGLETECH CASE PER ROD YOUNG: to read..... click the link ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=802219By: nufced 25 Jan 2009, 12:09 PM EST Msg. 802223 of 802260 (This msg. is a reply to 802219 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # gus..That was an article that came out when the suit was filed. Its an interview of Rod. I wanted Rod to be right...but the courts have failed to find that the case, to this point. Now don't post an interview. Thats like a reporter stating OJ says hes innocent..well DUH. Post the facts please, that you said you had. By: gusjarvis 25 Jan 2009, 12:12 PM EST Msg. 802227 of 802260 (This msg. is a reply to 802223 by nufced.) Jump to msg. # nufced rod is right and doing just fine and as jcline said there are grand juries By: nufced 25 Jan 2009, 12:21 PM EST Msg. 802240 of 802260 (This msg. is a reply to 802237 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # I will email Rod, and if he can answer I will post it. No surprise, that you never produce a document. useless is correct.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jan 25, 2009 13:06:36 GMT -5
By: chrisl_weekend 25 Jan 2009, 12:07 PM EST Msg. 802221 of 802260 (This msg. is a reply to 802215 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. #
gusjarvis if there is a sealed judgment or court order you should be able to find the case number that clearly states it is sealed.
The problem is you cannot so you just assume this to be fact.
By: gusjarvis 25 Jan 2009, 12:11 PM EST Msg. 802226 of 802260 (This msg. is a reply to 802221 by chrisl_weekend.) Jump to msg. #
yes I can and bush signed a directive
that says you can hide anything you want if it is part of national security and you know sandia hit our website tens of thousands of times, and bill signed nda's with the original team and naked shorting is done by terrorists with wall street.
a sealed case per f4d on this boards says you have to pretend it didn't happen, just like bill is doing with kevin and the gang, pretending they don't even know the work they have done themselves
like I said a monkey could see it
By: chrisl_weekend 25 Jan 2009, 12:13 PM EST Msg. 802228 of 802260 (This msg. is a reply to 802226 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. #
Ok gusjarvis prove your statements with a copy of the document instead of posting your thoughts.
If this document is real you should have no problem providing it.
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