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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 12, 2009 22:44:01 GMT -5
drchicostat DIAMOND DIGGER Re: Weekly Buzz Talk June 8 « Reply #132 Today at 12:49pm » Deb, Blackrock and Barclay deal in ETF's (EXCHANGE TRADED FUNDS). This is just a guess, but could Knight's derivatives liabilities be linked to Citigroup's purchase or swap of these funds in past dealings. I have been unable to locate a definite connection, but I'm still looking. I understand these funds can be shorted, same as stocks. drchicostat debintex DIAMOND DIGGERdrchicostat, You might be right. Honestly, I was taking a GIANT leap out there when I mentioned Blackrock, it was pure speculation on my part. Watermermaid said BlackSTONE, but based on the other things she said and something I read in the NY Times a few weeks ago, BlackROCK made more sense to me. I have been following BlackRock a little because it has the world's largest Mining Fund. Here's what she said: 1. "BlackSTONE wants to sell off Citi" 2. "The source was a macro economist - adviser to president and princes". I don't think Blackstone is powerful enough to pressure Citi. Blackrock on the other hand is growing more powerful everyday (all over the world). Read this article in the NYTimes and it will give you a better idea why Blackstone came to mind when I read the two quotes above. When I look at this article and then think of their mining fund... well, it let's me dream a little! LOL www.nytimes.com/2009/05/19/business/19blackrock.html
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 12, 2009 22:51:46 GMT -5
ShowMeTheMoney Mod Squad Jersey... Great find! If Roger Glenn turns out to be a good guy after all... could this be the reason he raised the AS to 800 Billion? e.g. To protect holders of CMKX securities that were fraudulently issued? Dont know... I sure wish someone would start talking. - Show in reference to rg... Fraudulent and Forged Certificates.— A very frequent case is that in which shares of stock of a corporation have been fraudulently issued, but in which such shares are in no sense an overissue. They have been issued without authority from the corporation, but are within the amount which the corporation has power to issue. A party taking with knowledge of the fraud, or of the circumstances giving rise thereto, is not entitled to the rights of a stockholder, and the certificate is void in his hands. Where, however, such certificate, though fraudulent in its inception, has reached the hands of a bona fide holder for value, and the number of shares represented by the certificate will not cause an overissue, the corporation will be held bound to make good such certificates to the extent of any shares owned by the company. Bona fide holders of such stock certificates are to be regarded as stockholders of the corporation and entitled to all the rights of such. Fraudulent stock certificates are not, however, certificates in legal contemplation and give no rights of their own force. The act of the corporation in issuing them, they having been accepted and acted upon in good faith by another, is deemed merely to estop the corporation from denying their validity.18 A corporation which has been induced fraudulently to issue corporate stock cannot, by subsequent ratification, bind stockholders who had no notice of the fraud. A corporation may be held liable in damages for a fraud of its officers in issuing stock, where it cannot be compelled to issue valid shares in place of those fraudulently issued, for the reason that this would cause an overissue of its capital stock. And generally speaking where one has expended money upon the faith of official certificates of stock issued by a corporation, he has a right to be indemnified, to the extent of his expenditure. So where certifi cates of stock in a company have been signed in blank and left with an official of the company to be used as needed, and the official fraudulently fills them up and puts them in circulation, the company will be liable in damages to a bona fide holder of such certificates for value. In many cases corporations have been held liable for damage caused by reliance upon the validity of fraudulent issues of certificates upon the ground that the negligence of the corporation has caused the injury. But it is only when a party holds a certificate to which are attached the genuine signatures of the parties who must sign to make it good, that the question arises as to whether or not the company is liable to him because of negligence, when the certificate is in fact false by reason of having been improperly or fraudulently issued. Where spurious stock is not an overissue, but is entirely within the powers of the corporation, its invalidity being caused merely by some irregularity in its issue, a stockholder may, by his acts, preclude himself from questioning the validity of the stock.* pg 219-221 tinyurl.com/moecn3[/quote]
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 12, 2009 22:53:25 GMT -5
jfarn DIAMOND MINER Re: Spoke with David Kotz this afternoon « Reply #61 Today at 7:07pm » Show, let us stay on guard. Kotz said they are going after Glenn and he is within their scope.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 13, 2009 9:58:19 GMT -5
ShowMeTheMoney Mod Squad Re: Spoke with David Kotz this afternoon « Reply #62 Today at 12:39am » JFARN... I am... I still think this could go either way. e.g. Urban and Roger need their day in court to explain themselves. Of course, the SEC actually has to see this through and get them into court. We'll just have to wait and see what happens. - Show
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 13, 2009 10:18:25 GMT -5
By: jboydwv 12 Jun 2009, 01:03 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 841598 of 841703 By: carquest44 02 Apr 2008, 03:12 PM EDT Msg. 696279 of 714049 (This msg. is a reply to 696258 by elvis-is-here.) Jump to msg. # elvis, Nothing as changed, it's just a bloody war......GOOD vs EVIL.....RIGHT vs WRONG! I had mentioned many many months ago that our foes are very formidable and well financed, as you all know by now since the war rages on. I absolutely believe in a positive roi. However i'm of the opinion that we need to hear from not one but two different enities(in pr form)before we can move forward. Have really must go now, take care all.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 13, 2009 10:20:30 GMT -5
By: l_broke_o 12 Jun 2009, 02:05 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 841600 of 841704 (Reply to 841597 by sportsman93306)
Jump to msg. # Yep sportsman, the people who ask the tough questions about cmkx have always been accused by the, I don't want to call them pumpers so I'll refer to them as the B.S. artists, as "bashers".
Rosencrantz and phatboy for example are not a bashers they want to see the proof, one way or the other.
These B.S. artists don't know how to handle someone who asks the tough questions so they reach into the "Basher" drawer and throw it out.
A question thrown around a lot is why are the REAL bashers here?
I'd also like to know why are these so called GURUS here, time and time again being wrong with their predictions. It's not like they're just off with their predictions. IT'S A PRETTY GOOD GUESS THAT THESE GURUS KNOW THEY ARE WRITING FALSE PREDICTIONS.....but why? Attention wwhhores or for evil reasons?
=Brokie=
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Post by snifferpup on Jun 13, 2009 15:14:21 GMT -5
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 13, 2009 21:09:08 GMT -5
seagull Mini Mod Re: The Weekly Buzz June 8 « Reply #30 Today at 8:51pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Salty's Theory www.zshare.net/audio/61327171e6c1b4d3/#Recap ...Salty ....6/13/09...... I think we are golden actually. I think that based upon the sting that happened... the white knights that have been involved in this... the major valuation that we have ... and the country not wanting to let uranium and oil slip through their fingers... I believe that Bob Maheu knew how to get us paid by getting China involved in this... so that China, US & Canada will be partners... and they used Citibank as the partner to pay us off based upon the fact that so much illegal was going on... Leman Brothers and Merrill Lynch were the main culprits.. Bank of American had to buy Merrill Lynch and was strong armed by Bernanke to do so... Merrill Lynch was big in this NSS... and what we got is ... depository receipts ... I feel it is right... We hold depository receipts and that is what Citibank said they are going to pay on... Our depository receipts are our certificates... they were borrowed by the borrowing pool...many of them x cleared... as Jefferies did... many unregistered shares sold through NevWest Securities ... when Citibank bought Knights derivatives and they never have repurchased them so they are still borrowed... we have depository receipts that were borrowed that need to be repurchased... in order to do that Citibank had to make a deal for the depository receipts in the form of preferred shares... those preferred shares will be converted to common shares this week and issued late July at a ratio of 7.30769... to receive shares of Citibank... worth about .48 per share... when Citibank gets $3.94, CMKX will be worth .54 per shares... I wasn't a big fan of Acca... but now I believe that Acca played a large part in all this to keep us together... They have given him enough info along the way have culminated in what I think right here... I think we will get shares of Citi... Citi will then do the conglomerate ipo ... they will underwrite the ipo with the blessings of the government because the government owns 34-36% of Citi........ our stock will be absolutely nondilutive ... because they have underwritten the largest conglomerate in the history of the world ... Citi's short squeeze will run ... they are trying to make it look as bad as they can... because it is fixing to run when it is announced.... great way to pay CMKX ...because it will be the liquidity of the stock market that pays us... then the actual trusts of some of the claims that had been sold will be released to us... so we will not only will we have shares of Citi worth the .48 and no telling what.... and will have the trusts released to us and we will have the rights offerings for the ipo which citi will make all our money back ...we are in partnership with China and Canada... we are in the stock play of a lifetime ... thanks Cameron for putting on the pressure for what you are going to do... because the bad guys are going to have to pay Question: Are you hearing anything about short term small payments... (paraphrased) Salty: I don't see small payments coming ... Citi will pay us... and the SEC will be off the hook ... then the rest of our trusts can be released... ~seagull « Last Edit: Today at 8:56pm by seagull » millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=26020&page=2
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Post by squeezebox on Jun 14, 2009 8:59:24 GMT -5
seagull Mini Mod Re: The Weekly Buzz June 8 « Reply #30 Today at 8:51pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Salty's Theory www.zshare.net/audio/61327171e6c1b4d3/#Recap ...Salty ....6/13/09...... I think we are golden actually. I think that based upon the sting that happened... the white knights that have been involved in this... the major valuation that we have ... and the country not wanting to let uranium and oil slip through their fingers... I believe that Bob Maheu knew how to get us paid by getting China involved in this... so that China, US & Canada will be partners... and they used Citibank as the partner to pay us off based upon the fact that so much illegal was going on... Leman Brothers and Merrill Lynch were the main culprits.. Bank of American had to buy Merrill Lynch and was strong armed by Bernanke to do so... Merrill Lynch was big in this NSS... and what we got is ... depository receipts ... I feel it is right... We hold depository receipts and that is what Citibank said they are going to pay on... Our depository receipts are our certificates... they were borrowed by the borrowing pool...many of them x cleared... as Jefferies did... many unregistered shares sold through NevWest Securities ... when Citibank bought Knights derivatives and they never have repurchased them so they are still borrowed... we have depository receipts that were borrowed that need to be repurchased... in order to do that Citibank had to make a deal for the depository receipts in the form of preferred shares... those preferred shares will be converted to common shares this week and issued late July at a ratio of 7.30769... to receive shares of Citibank... worth about .48 per share... when Citibank gets $3.94, CMKX will be worth .54 per shares... I wasn't a big fan of Acca... but now I believe that Acca played a large part in all this to keep us together... They have given him enough info along the way have culminated in what I think right here... I think we will get shares of Citi... Citi will then do the conglomerate ipo ... they will underwrite the ipo with the blessings of the government because the government owns 34-36% of Citi........ our stock will be absolutely nondilutive ... because they have underwritten the largest conglomerate in the history of the world ... Citi's short squeeze will run ... they are trying to make it look as bad as they can... because it is fixing to run when it is announced.... great way to pay CMKX ...because it will be the liquidity of the stock market that pays us... then the actual trusts of some of the claims that had been sold will be released to us... so we will not only will we have shares of Citi worth the .48 and no telling what.... and will have the trusts released to us and we will have the rights offerings for the ipo which citi will make all our money back ...we are in partnership with China and Canada... we are in the stock play of a lifetime ... thanks Cameron for putting on the pressure for what you are going to do... because the bad guys are going to have to pay Question: Are you hearing anything about short term small payments... (paraphrased) Salty: I don't see small payments coming ... Citi will pay us... and the SEC will be off the hook ... then the rest of our trusts can be released... ~seagull « Last Edit: Today at 8:56pm by seagull » millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=26020&page=2Sounds like someone's cookin up quite the story to me, but then again what do I know! I guess at this point we can only hope Salty is right.
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Post by soonerlew on Jun 14, 2009 17:00:33 GMT -5
bikinipro Mini Mod Gossip Column Queen Re: The Weekly Buzz June 8-13 « Reply #30 Today at 11:21am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- snifferpup Mod Squad ***** Re: Other Gossip, etc..6/8/09-> « Reply #154 Today at 11:40am » tigerherb: Earlier this morning 06/14/09, Richy said that his contact was hoping to talk to his contact this weekend to see if there was any new info. He repeated what they said previously "It Is Done" millionaires.proboards.com/index.....ad=26020&page=2
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Post by ironman on Jun 15, 2009 7:00:24 GMT -5
Looks like this web link is "done" too! bikinipro Mini Mod Gossip Column Queen Re: The Weekly Buzz June 8-13 « Reply #30 Today at 11:21am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- snifferpup Mod Squad ***** Re: Other Gossip, etc..6/8/09-> « Reply #154 Today at 11:40am » tigerherb: Earlier this morning 06/14/09, Richy said that his contact was hoping to talk to his contact this weekend to see if there was any new info. He repeated what they said previously "It Is Done" millionaires.proboards.com/index.....ad=26020&page=2
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