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Post by soonerlew on Feb 8, 2010 18:57:08 GMT -5
By: nbphony 08 Feb 2010, 04:37 PM EST Rating: Msg. 910024 of 910094
Jump to msg. # the time is here al lets go
By: yetihunter04 08 Feb 2010, 04:41 PM EST Rating: Msg. 910026 of 910094 (Reply to 910024 by nbphony)
Jump to msg. # yeah, now's the time for that hodges update!
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Post by soonerlew on Feb 8, 2010 18:58:13 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 08 Feb 2010, 05:00 PM EST Rating: Msg. 910034 of 910095
Jump to msg. # I will have absolutely no responses to negativity
it is time spend my time away from my family productively, I will start the campaign today, you can start anytime, but we will also have a very coordinated effort out by tomorrow it will include:
first move, we put together a mailing list, small one, we can add names but lets think very very hard about this. One after another they will be contacted with the info that the wsj isn't reporting and whoever else is added to the list is not reporting the largest fraud case in history, we will tell them their name will be added to the list if they don't report the story.
we will force them to report this, to report Al's case, or be outed for being corrupt.
this will start very soon, lets think about who we contact and how, officially, but one after the other contacted and accounted. At the same time we will put out the places to email complaints to add to our complaints filed, you can also email evidence to add which will be great or just a simple letter.
A pr of our progress will be out early next week, but will include the main stream media who refuse to cover the largest case ever
have a great day, and cross your fingers, maybe this ends right away, but until it does lets started demanding things and accepting nothing less than real answers
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Post by soonerlew on Feb 8, 2010 18:59:07 GMT -5
By: paltalk-updater_ 08 Feb 2010, 04:59 PM EST Rating: Msg. 910033 of 910096
Jump to msg. # so how does this work - the sec defaults - the judge calls the white house and says - u have 2 pay these people - SEC peeps say no - then what?? - lol
By: yetihunter04 08 Feb 2010, 05:01 PM EST Rating: Msg. 910035 of 910096 (Reply to 910033 by paltalk-updater_)
Jump to msg. # yes, question: how come the SEC defaulted in this case, yet in the US the SEC defendants are gathering representation?
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Post by soonerlew on Feb 8, 2010 19:00:37 GMT -5
By: briwaddtx 08 Feb 2010, 06:27 PM EST Rating: Msg. 910078 of 910097
Jump to msg. # Gus, assuming this goes to Court,
(I am hoping it is resolved by then), will you have legal representation present. In other words, if the SEC attorneys are present at the next hearing, will you have someone qualified to represent you.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what you are doing; however, the last thing we need is a couple of very qualified SEC attornies making you (us) look silly!
I would pay money towards Al Hodges plan ticket to Canada!
Briwadd
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Post by soonerlew on Feb 8, 2010 19:01:14 GMT -5
By: sportsman93306 08 Feb 2010, 06:26 PM EST Rating: Msg. 910077 of 910098
Jump to msg. # GUS ADMIRE YOUR EFFORT. I HAVE FEW QUESTIONS THOUGH.. Whuch were never answered and I believe VERY IMPORTANT. I know u r talking AL a lot Did u ask him follwing 1.Did Al really see the acct/s in which money is held? 2.Is it in trust or with Govt? 3.if in trust does he knows trustees name? ONLY YES OR NO WOULD DO. AND FINALLY 4. The real reason for not releasing the fund. THANKS SPORTSMAN
By: gusjarvis
08 Feb 2010, 06:59 PM EST Rating: post rating 4 Msg. 910097 of 910113 (Reply to 910077 by sportsman93306) Jump to msg. #
sport Al could not say everything, but what he would have
said in court for me is this, and this is what I know:
1. That the SEC has told him the trusts are there for sure.
2. They have been in the process of getting the money released.
3. He sued because they have been stalling and lying to him.
4. That money was taken out for taxes already.
I will quickly as possible be in touch with the SEC, after drafting a letter to go along with my re-serving. I will ask to be included in the talks going on immediately given my new evidence.
cheers, and lets hope that doesn't have to happen, but it will as quickly as I can get it done.
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Post by soonerlew on Feb 8, 2010 19:01:56 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 08 Feb 2010, 06:43 PM EST Rating: Msg. 910087 of 910098
Jump to msg. # moves one and two to expedite matters for us
OK here is the first court move I am making, it is to serve the sec as soon as possible with my first filing but also my second filing which they did not receive. The paper work will be done by a lawyer as we have that much money now, thank you all, it only needs to be looked over as it really complete as is, I took a chance with this by not re-filing in the first place as I had new evidence that was added.
The second it is served, and even before, I will be sending letters to the sec asking to be part of the on going talks to release our money as that is what I am asking for in my damages as well, so it should not be only Al that is involved in that process. They should have no issue with including me if these talks are ongoing already, Al has agreed to back up those statements in court for me today, they are true.
I will force my way into this.
Second move, which will be done right away, is I will be in contact with the inspector general as soon as possible to talk about this and other issues we have.
please though do one thing yourself for me, start the ball rolling with the campaign to out this, contact the wsj and washington post and just ask why they are not running our story, it is very easy
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Post by briwadd on Feb 8, 2010 19:30:55 GMT -5
Now why can't Al say this:
By: gusjarvis 08 Feb 2010, 06:59 PM EST Rating: Rate this post: Msg. 910097 of 910109 (Reply to 910077 by sportsman93306)
Jump to msg. # sport Al could not say everything, but what he would have
said in court for me is this, and this is what I know:
1. That the SEC has told him the trusts are there for sure.
2. They have been in the process of getting the money released.
3. He sued because they have been stalling and lying to him.
4. That money was taken out for taxes already.
I will quickly as possible be in touch with the SEC, after drafting a letter to go along with my re-serving. I will ask to be included in the talks going on immediately given my new evidence.
cheers, and lets hope that doesn't have to happen, but it will as quickly as I can get it done.
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Post by speedomodelisback on Feb 8, 2010 19:35:31 GMT -5
All I wanted was a Pepsi.
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Post by deltadon30228 on Feb 8, 2010 20:18:23 GMT -5
One question to anyone, where is the 33 million in a judgement against Urban that was to be paid within 10 days to the Tyler group? If I remember that was about 6 months ago and was ruled on in court by a judge, has anyone seen this money?
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Post by deltadon30228 on Feb 8, 2010 20:20:15 GMT -5
twolilfish,
Things are starting to not add up and I don't want to discuss why. I feel like Al is just going to stall and will fizzle out just like the rest.
No offense to Gus, but do you really think he can accomplish what the others couldn't, I have all the respect for his doing what he is doing but they will eat him alive even if they have to shut him up, money talks trust me.
You can bash me all you want, I'm just looking at reality.
Don
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Post by hundredtoone on Feb 8, 2010 20:28:08 GMT -5
One question to anyone, where is the 33 million in a judgement against Urban that was to be paid within 10 days to the Tyler group? If I remember that was about 6 months ago and was ruled on in court by a judge, has anyone seen this money? Delta...you should ask TYLER that question...Flying Moose(cmkxunofficial)
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Post by squeezebox on Feb 8, 2010 20:52:04 GMT -5
twolilfish, Things are starting to not add up and I don't want to discuss why. I feel like Al is just going to stall and will fizzle out just like the rest. No offense to Gus, but do you really think he can accomplish what the others couldn't, I have all the respect for his doing what he is doing but they will eat him alive even if they have to shut him up, money talks trust me. You can bash me all you want, I'm just looking at reality. Don Reality? what color is the sky in your world? The reality is that you are a negative nilly! If you feel this way why are you here?
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Post by ptrk99 on Feb 8, 2010 21:05:22 GMT -5
twolilfish, Things are starting to not add up and I don't want to discuss why. I feel like Al is just going to stall and will fizzle out just like the rest. No offense to Gus, but do you really think he can accomplish what the others couldn't, I have all the respect for his doing what he is doing but they will eat him alive even if they have to shut him up, money talks trust me. You can bash me all you want, I'm just looking at reality. Don Don, As you sit in the cheap seats, continually poopooing all that Mr. Hodges and the rest are doing, would you mind jotting down a list of all the steps you have undertaken to right this wrong? I look forward to reading the list. AIMHO.
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Post by deltadon30228 on Feb 8, 2010 21:44:34 GMT -5
ptrk99,
Why is it when someone tries to vent and talk about the truth they get jumped on, I know I'm in the same seats your in. I'm just saying what 90% of the shareholders feel, they are tired of the B.S. all the guru's who think they have the answers and are NEVER right.
I didn't know if you're in direct connect with the insiders and have the facts and know with all, or that you know exactly how this is going to end, why don't you share your proof of what you think is happening since you seem to want to defend the obvious.
All we have is hear say and not one ounce of true FACT in writing that says how much has been collect other than a judge ruled 33 million in default against Urban which I haven't seen one penny of.
Look I want my money I deserve as well as you, but it's this cult like rumor mill that everyone buys into that has not once ounce of proof that we will be paid, I'm just waking up after buying into it myself for 6 1/2 years. We as shareholders had our chance a long time ago to do something about it, it's too late for us as a group to do anything about it now, if Mr. Hodges doesn't get the so called money released that he says is there within the next month, will you then realize he is stalling just like those before him? or will you still be sitting in these cheap seats talking about the same ole' thing, which is RUMORS.
Wished I could be more positive at this point but sorry I can't, trust me I won't say another word.
But if you still want to show me some proof of your information let me know. Until then stop dogging me for what I think is happening, it's not like I or you are able to buy or sell our stock.
Trust me I'm sure many feel like I do.
Don
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Post by shmokie2 on Feb 8, 2010 21:58:55 GMT -5
Don, Just curious why you say "We as shareholders had our chance a long time ago to do something about it, it's too late for us as a group to do anything about it now" and what would be Hodge's motivation to stall??? If nothing was here to gain from all this why would someone resort to stalling tactics as you stated? IMHO there has to be more to it or all this attention on this delisted penny stock would have dried up along time ago.
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