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Post by yetihunter on Apr 14, 2010 10:20:10 GMT -5
I haven't been around for many years, because I seem to get banned when I do my research and no one likes what I post. I still have shares and still have about 20 family/close friends in this. When I heard the buzz, I had to make some calls. There is nothing done yet and no money is on it's way. I spoke to Hodges office late yesterday. They haven't heard a response yet back from the SEC SINCE the extension. So whoever is spreading the BS about packages going out and so forth, needs to stop. I was also told the new TA has NOTHING to do with getting paid with Hodges. Two totally separate things. The TA is a good thing for future trading of something, but that's about it. We already have the bonified shareholders. Also, if we do get a settlement and receipt of funds, all the shareholders with the exception of the 7 in the lawsuit have to be certified in the Court before we get a penny. And who knows how long that will take. I will however say it's very interesting that the SEC asked for an extension rather than go to court to have the lawsuit thrown out. So this looks favorable to see a settlement or a release of these funds within 60 days. Unless of course, another extension. I don't know how many extensions they can get, but with a judge that is sympathetic towards the SEC, I would imagine as many as they want. If anyone could find this out and post, it would be nice to know. I was under the impression with my conversation that the 3.87 trillion is is just a bargaining chip to get the trust released and that the trust was significantly lower than the lawsuit. This is just my opinion, but seems logical. Why can't anyone tell us how much money is in the trust? This would be nice to know. I just can't believe that Mahue Picked up over a trillion dollars and now with interest it's almost $4 trillion. Just doesn't seem realistic, but in the billions maybe. If we, the shareholders are holding 850 billion shares, and that's everything; and say we get 400 billion from the trust, that's about .50 cents anyway the way I see it. I would be happy as I think most of you would be too. After reviewing all the information in the past 5 years, I have to believe that we are getting something and big things are coming for those who hold the CIM shares. I just don't think this kind of money will be available in our personal accounts for a few months if we get it at all. Good luck. interesting...cuz this post has a completely opposite feel to what the plaintiffs (mainly wyatt, salty, and bhollen) are currently portraying... we'll just have to wait and see what hodges' update has to say... when you say you spoke to hodges' office just yesterday, who did you exactly speak with?
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Post by squeezebox on Apr 14, 2010 10:22:06 GMT -5
Great post Logan, My sentiments exactly!
and you verified what I said about not needing an account with the new Ta FOR THE 3rd TIME! Thanks for that. and welcome back! I'm sure I to will get banned sooner or later, I have been from all others also, lol, oh well!
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Post by TallyHo on Apr 14, 2010 10:55:51 GMT -5
After reviewing all the information in the past 5 years, I have to believe that we are getting something and big things are coming for those who hold the CIM shares. I just don't think this kind of money will be available in our personal accounts for a few months if we get it at all. Good luck. Are you saying only those with CIM shares will get the payout? I don't have CIM shares but have a paper cert for my CMKM shares.
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Post by NobleForce2 on Apr 14, 2010 10:56:06 GMT -5
Great post Logan, My sentiments exactly! and you verified what I said about not needing an account with the new Ta FOR THE 3rd TIME! Thanks for that. and welcome back! I'm sure I to will get banned sooner or later, I have been from all others also, lol, oh well! You seem so scared to register. I don't get it. It's kinda like how people acted when we were told to pull certs.
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Post by squeezebox on Apr 14, 2010 12:03:43 GMT -5
Thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard Noble!!! I'm am scared of nothing and nobody! I was just passing along info that the lady at the TA's office gave me. Then I was attacked by Manny for posting it. Then The same info was put up by 2 different people verifying exactly what I had been told and posted. There is no reason other than your own piece of mind to open an account, that's it! Money will not be put in it, you will get no notification thru it, nothing, that's what I was told. So go stick you stupid comments wherever you want!
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Post by squeezebox on Apr 14, 2010 12:06:47 GMT -5
I haven't been around for many years, because I seem to get banned when I do my research and no one likes what I post. I still have shares and still have about 20 family/close friends in this. When I heard the buzz, I had to make some calls. There is nothing done yet and no money is on it's way. I spoke to Hodges office late yesterday. They haven't heard a response yet back from the SEC SINCE the extension. So whoever is spreading the BS about packages going out and so forth, needs to stop. I was also told the new TA has NOTHING to do with getting paid with Hodges. Two totally separate things. The TA is a good thing for future trading of something, but that's about it. We already have the bonified shareholders. Also, if we do get a settlement and receipt of funds, all the shareholders with the exception of the 7 in the lawsuit have to be certified in the Court before we get a penny. And who knows how long that will take. I will however say it's very interesting that the SEC asked for an extension rather than go to court to have the lawsuit thrown out. So this looks favorable to see a settlement or a release of these funds within 60 days. Unless of course, another extension. I don't know how many extensions they can get, but with a judge that is sympathetic towards the SEC, I would imagine as many as they want. If anyone could find this out and post, it would be nice to know. I was under the impression with my conversation that the 3.87 trillion is is just a bargaining chip to get the trust released and that the trust was significantly lower than the lawsuit. This is just my opinion, but seems logical. Why can't anyone tell us how much money is in the trust? This would be nice to know. I just can't believe that Mahue Picked up over a trillion dollars and now with interest it's almost $4 trillion. Just doesn't seem realistic, but in the billions maybe. If we, the shareholders are holding 850 billion shares, and that's everything; and say we get 400 billion from the trust, that's about .50 cents anyway the way I see it. I would be happy as I think most of you would be too. After reviewing all the information in the past 5 years, I have to believe that we are getting something and big things are coming for those who hold the CIM shares. I just don't think this kind of money will be available in our personal accounts for a few months if we get it at all. Good luck. That's a good post... thanks for calling and posting - you make a lot of good points... Still, IMO, the TA probably has/had nothing to do with Hodges negotiations, etc, but I think the TA still needed to be in place before any distributions are made to the shareholders - I can't imagine anything being mailed to 50K shareholders! Wouldn't it make sense for distributions to be electronic - kind of like efiling your taxes and having a refund direct deposited to your account... if there is a non-disclosure statement required, one could do that online as well. TransferOnline seams to be the perfect TA for this scenario. And look at the timing of all of this -maybe just a coincidence? Regarding Hodges's office, I can't imagine them releasing any "juicy" info over the phone - think it has to come from Al at this point as many of the plaintiffs have said - good call still. I have to admit, Bhollenegg's post yesterday gave me hope that we are "there" or "close" - he isn't the kind of poster to mess with our emotions or pump, and from what I've read, neither is Al Hodges. I'm biting my finger nails waiting for "the news". ... btw, we really have to be thankful for all the plaintiffs and Al Hodges. Imagine it Beavis...you obviously don't understand mass marketing thru the mail. Hell they did it once telling us to pull certs. d*mn some of you guys read way to far into stuff!
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Post by 2018 on Apr 14, 2010 12:28:28 GMT -5
I haven't been around for many years, because I seem to get banned when I do my research and no one likes what I post. I still have shares and still have about 20 family/close friends in this. When I heard the buzz, I had to make some calls. There is nothing done yet and no money is on it's way. I spoke to Hodges office late yesterday. They haven't heard a response yet back from the SEC SINCE the extension. So whoever is spreading the BS about packages going out and so forth, needs to stop. I was also told the new TA has NOTHING to do with getting paid with Hodges. Two totally separate things. The TA is a good thing for future trading of something, but that's about it. We already have the bonified shareholders. Also, if we do get a settlement and receipt of funds, all the shareholders with the exception of the 7 in the lawsuit have to be certified in the Court before we get a penny. And who knows how long that will take. I will however say it's very interesting that the SEC asked for an extension rather than go to court to have the lawsuit thrown out. So this looks favorable to see a settlement or a release of these funds within 60 days. Unless of course, another extension. I don't know how many extensions they can get, but with a judge that is sympathetic towards the SEC, I would imagine as many as they want. If anyone could find this out and post, it would be nice to know. I was under the impression with my conversation that the 3.87 trillion is is just a bargaining chip to get the trust released and that the trust was significantly lower than the lawsuit. This is just my opinion, but seems logical. Why can't anyone tell us how much money is in the trust? This would be nice to know. I just can't believe that Mahue Picked up over a trillion dollars and now with interest it's almost $4 trillion. Just doesn't seem realistic, but in the billions maybe. If we, the shareholders are holding 850 billion shares, and that's everything; and say we get 400 billion from the trust, that's about .50 cents anyway the way I see it. I would be happy as I think most of you would be too. After reviewing all the information in the past 5 years, I have to believe that we are getting something and big things are coming for those who hold the CIM shares. I just don't think this kind of money will be available in our personal accounts for a few months if we get it at all. Good luck. That's a good post... thanks for calling and posting - you make a lot of good points... Still, IMO, the TA probably has/had nothing to do with Hodges negotiations, etc, but I think the TA still needed to be in place before any distributions are made to the shareholders - I can't imagine anything being mailed to 50K shareholders! Wouldn't it make sense for distributions to be electronic - kind of like efiling your taxes and having a refund direct deposited to your account... if there is a non-disclosure statement required, one could do that online as well. TransferOnline seams to be the perfect TA for this scenario. And look at the timing of all of this -maybe just a coincidence? Regarding Hodges's office, I can't imagine them releasing any "juicy" info over the phone - think it has to come from Al at this point as many of the plaintiffs have said - good call still. I have to admit, Bhollenegg's post yesterday gave me hope that we are "there" or "close" - he isn't the kind of poster to mess with our emotions or pump, and from what I've read, neither is Al Hodges. I'm biting my finger nails waiting for "the news". ... btw, we really have to be thankful for all the plaintiffs and Al Hodges. agree with logan and beavis.. on points about ta. also about payouts.
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Post by squeezebox on Apr 14, 2010 12:33:07 GMT -5
Imagine it Beavis...you obviously don't understand mass marketing thru the mail. Hell they did it once telling us to pull certs. d*mn some of you guys read way to far into stuff! LOL, I may be Beavis, but I'm not a complete moron! Just makes more sense to me now-a-days to go the electronic route - faster, cheaper, and less chance of error. Virtually everything can be done online. I'm not saying you are a moron but think of the people who don't get online? email is not that reliable, I don't get emails sent to me all the time and hear some that I send were never recieved, so...
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Apr 14, 2010 13:01:22 GMT -5
Today at 12:08pm, loganwolverine wrote:Then say nothing and listen to your attorney. We've been down this road how many times? Why would you want a riddle. Are you into head games? I'm not. Id rather see nothing. Everyone wants to be the hero here, and that's why all the rumors are all over the place. Dennis told me YESTERDAY that everyone would know before a PR hit. This is not a public company. When an agreement is reached, Hodges will tell his plaintiffs and they will tell the world. As of yesterday, the SEC has NOT contacted Hodges about a settlement. That's black and white! Loganwolverine, bhollenegg God of Diamonds Re: Mr. Bhollenegg, Could You Elaborate? « Reply #14 Today at 12:56pm » I am not concerned about any hero status. My concern is with the Shareholders' concerns and welfare. There is no riddle in my response to Wolfbela's question he directed to me. It is clear and is not a rumor. Wolfbela was concerned about the silence. I assured Wolfbela we will hear from Attorney Hodges within hours...days as was told to me by Attorney Hodges. Your one phone call does not mention release of the funds. Confirmation and release of the funds were being worked on back in December 2008. The settlement with the SEC is pertaining to the lawsuit. Attorney Hodges will provide the details. Thank you, BHollenegg
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Post by makersmark on Apr 14, 2010 13:06:16 GMT -5
I haven't been around for many years, because I seem to get banned when I do my research and no one likes what I post. I still have shares and still have about 20 family/close friends in this. When I heard the buzz, I had to make some calls. There is nothing done yet and no money is on it's way. I spoke to Hodges office late yesterday. They haven't heard a response yet back from the SEC SINCE the extension. So whoever is spreading the BS about packages going out and so forth, needs to stop. I was also told the new TA has NOTHING to do with getting paid with Hodges. Two totally separate things. The TA is a good thing for future trading of something, but that's about it. We already have the bonified shareholders. Also, if we do get a settlement and receipt of funds, all the shareholders with the exception of the 7 in the lawsuit have to be certified in the Court before we get a penny. And who knows how long that will take. I will however say it's very interesting that the SEC asked for an extension rather than go to court to have the lawsuit thrown out. So this looks favorable to see a settlement or a release of these funds within 60 days. Unless of course, another extension. I don't know how many extensions they can get, but with a judge that is sympathetic towards the SEC, I would imagine as many as they want. If anyone could find this out and post, it would be nice to know. I was under the impression with my conversation that the 3.87 trillion is is just a bargaining chip to get the trust released and that the trust was significantly lower than the lawsuit. This is just my opinion, but seems logical. Why can't anyone tell us how much money is in the trust? This would be nice to know. I just can't believe that Mahue Picked up over a trillion dollars and now with interest it's almost $4 trillion. Just doesn't seem realistic, but in the billions maybe. If we, the shareholders are holding 850 billion shares, and that's everything; and say we get 400 billion from the trust, that's about .50 cents anyway the way I see it. I would be happy as I think most of you would be too. After reviewing all the information in the past 5 years, I have to believe that we are getting something and big things are coming for those who hold the CIM shares. I just don't think this kind of money will be available in our personal accounts for a few months if we get it at all. Good luck. Your post seems more realistic cause nothing happens over night and we all know how things have been going in CMKXland. but as much as we get excited on rumors and posters claim they have spoke to someone at Al Hodges office how is it that you are able to call Al's office and get that information about the SEC not settling? I would assume the only people that are going to get any inside information would be the plantiffs. Again, your post is realistic and I am so sick of this dragging out and hearing all the rumors but it goes both ways ya know. If you can't get good news from Al's office how is it that you can get not so good news or bad news from Al's office? Good Luck to you too. I want money but I want closure just as bad.
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Post by deltadon30228 on Apr 14, 2010 13:06:34 GMT -5
At this point in the game anyone who comes on this site and pushes their anger at other posters is useless, waste of time and sound ridiculous. If your mad because you haven't been paid or disagree with any rumors you should just go to the source who is making you angry, don't push your negativity or anger toward others versus calling Mr. Hodges himself. Anyone who claims they know the ending is blurting out BS and looking for attention, there is only a very selective group and a small one at that, that knows how this will end, the rest is just pure guessing. I have to say looking at some of these posters spewing negative crap and trying to aggravate other shareholders is funny, they sure make themselves look ridiculous, some say they have been away for years and all of a sudden they appear after a so called sabbatical, for one thing why would they only have a few posts, if so did they feel a need to change their user name? Some say it doesn't add up or the facts are the facts, whatever! Don't pay attention to them, they either are living a life of misery or they are working for the losing side. I've noticed an increase in these type of posters lately, that is a good sign. This will end in our favor, if you don't like it, leave and go annoy your wife, girlfriend, sister, brother or whoever. No true longs buy your BS and we will get the last laugh. I bet those on the losing side sure wished they had our shares, I would be miserable too if I were them. If they were truly smart and put all the clues of the puzzle together they wouldn't be so angry. It's very simple "IF" any of these posters are bashers, they want you to be so fed up and tired when the lid blows off, that you don't exercise your RR shares so they can get their hands on them. There is NO OTHER REASON FOR A BASHER TO BE HERE, other than to wear you down, hoping you give up easy in the end. Attack away guys, I don't care what you say or think. (I'm curious to see who attacks me) LOL! Of course this is just my opinion! Don
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Post by makersmark on Apr 14, 2010 14:42:53 GMT -5
At this point in the game anyone who comes on this site and pushes their anger at other posters is useless, waste of time and sound ridiculous. If your mad because you haven't been paid or disagree with any rumors you should just go to the source who is making you angry, don't push your negativity or anger toward others versus calling Mr. Hodges himself. Anyone who claims they know the ending is blurting out BS and looking for attention, there is only a very selective group and a small one at that, that knows how this will end, the rest is just pure guessing. I have to say looking at some of these posters spewing negative crap and trying to aggravate other shareholders is funny, they sure make themselves look ridiculous, some say they have been away for years and all of a sudden they appear after a so called sabbatical, for one thing why would they only have a few posts, if so did they feel a need to change their user name? Some say it doesn't add up or the facts are the facts, whatever! Don't pay attention to them, they either are living a life of misery or they are working for the losing side. I've noticed an increase in these type of posters lately, that is a good sign. This will end in our favor, if you don't like it, leave and go annoy your wife, girlfriend, sister, brother or whoever. No true longs buy your BS and we will get the last laugh. I bet those on the losing side sure wished they had our shares, I would be miserable too if I were them. If they were truly smart and put all the clues of the puzzle together they wouldn't be so angry. It's very simple "IF" any of these posters are bashers, they want you to be so fed up and tired when the lid blows off, that you don't exercise your RR shares so they can get their hands on them. There is NO OTHER REASON FOR A BASHER TO BE HERE, other than to wear you down, hoping you give up easy in the end. Attack away guys, I don't care what you say or think. (I'm curious to see who attacks me) LOL! Of course this is just my opinion! Don Well Said I just can't wait for us to get paid so we can finally close the mouths of the bashers. good luck man!
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Post by yetihunter on Apr 14, 2010 15:09:54 GMT -5
I am not a basher at all. (Except on Ihub against Janice Shell) where I have recently unleashed furious anger. lol LOL nice. she deserves all the "nice" words coming to her. so yesterday, dennis smith told you we could see an update in 30 minutes or 3 months?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Apr 14, 2010 15:10:18 GMT -5
Ahhh Don, don't let it upset you. Most of us, longs, have become very thick skinned over the years. There is nothing that anyone says nor does that will or could get to us (for me anyhow). You are right, they expose themselves and their agenda for choosing to frequent a CMKX board, that is well known to be a predominately positive board.
Debating ,the naysayers views, is sometimes interesting and sometimes not, nonetheless all part of the reasons for chat forums. Who knows we may even be able to "convert" a few of these naysayers..... lol
I have been bashed, ridiculed (as others have been) by some of the worse of them, all because I (we) choose to wait this saga out believing the glass is half full. But..... They make no never mind to me. I actually sometimes enjoy sitting back watching & laughing at them as they prove to others what azzhls they are. Proving to others that their character, morals & manners are worse than a sewer rat.
sooooo my suggestion to all is ..... don't let the naysayers and or bashers get under your skin..... just ignore them.
SINGLE
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Post by yetihunter on Apr 14, 2010 15:29:06 GMT -5
yetihunter- yes, he did. See, if we get the funds released, it's over Maybe the SEC doesn't have to contact them to release the funds. WTF knows. He just mentioned that the SEC hasn't contacted them about the lawsuit. This could be spun so many ways. Maybe Hodges told the lucky 7 everything since he is representing them, and they can't say anything until the money is actually in Hodges possession, trust, or whatever. I tell you what though, I am not calling Dennis again. LOL that is quite possibly true, since they are the 7 plaintiffs. we could all just be waiting on the outside for the news. or the update could just be more of the same: fluid situation, blah blah blah.
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