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Post by soonerlew on May 2, 2010 13:01:53 GMT -5
By: silverbulletny1 02 May 2010, 12:33 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 929948 of 929953
Jump to msg. # Wonder which big brokers loved that our Valuation/ASSETS was never reported to the Government, because it was never pulled out of the ground? Wonder which one's bet against us having anything of Value? OTC derivitives places their VALUE on ASSETS.
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Post by soonerlew on May 2, 2010 13:03:36 GMT -5
By: jboydwv 02 May 2010, 10:58 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 929938 of 929953 (Reply to 929936 by newtopennies)
Jump to msg. # newto ..... I know someone that spent the day with UC at a race back in the day .... " its all about the derivatives" .... that may not be exact buts its close.... back then we had no idea what a derivative was.... we sure do now after they almost took out the entire banking system!!!!
By: tuscan9 02 May 2010, 01:10 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 929952 of 929953 (Reply to 929938 by jboydwv)
Jump to msg. # yes jboyd.. but in reality.. they DID take it all out.. its all in shambles like humpty dumpty and they really don't know how to put it together again.
There are too many countries involved.. too much anger now.. the egg shell is broken and all are on their own.
Someone(sssssssss) in the Hub of this are talking.. and that puts all the others in a bad way.
The Headlines in our future Days/Months are going to be filled with people that .. well, you know. Fright and Fear make people do stupid things...
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Post by soonerlew on May 2, 2010 13:05:37 GMT -5
ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=929936By: snoopstock5 02 May 2010, 11:47 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 929944 of 929953 (Reply to 929936 by newtopennies) Jump to msg. # Nice post and I do somewhat agree. Though I don't think 622 billion is the O/S. If UC is NOT guilty, it cannot be. You go back to the original DEF 14C back in 3/2003. It clearly stated the following: 7,241,653,404 shares of Common Stock issued and outstanding. Shares Beneficially Owned Percent of Class Urban Casavant (1)(2)(3) 600,000,000 8.3% Casavant Family As A Group (2)(4)(5) 170,300,000 2.4% Majority Shareholders (2)(6) 6,988,191,000 85.8% The Majority of shareholders represented the 6,988,191,000. The O/S was 7,241,653,404. Minus the Marjority of shareholders with the O/S and you get 253,462,404. We also read about the shareholders that received the 100 for 1 forward split. It is amazing just how close the math is, since we do not have exact figures for the "unregistered shares". UC had 600,000,000. His family had 170,300,000. Minus that from the 6,988,191,000. You get 6,217,981,000. Laws of math would round it up to 6,220,000,000. Times that by 100 and you get 622,000,000,000 billions of unregistered shares. You still have 253,462,404 that are not unregistered shares. If I were a hedge fund doing ILLEGAL activity, and I was SMART, what would you do? Sell the billions of unregistered shares to unsuspecting investors or sell the shares to offshore shells, trust, phoney names and so one. If you naked short shares, you are STILL considered a "shareholder" until you buy back the shares. I can see where they would get the 7.2 trillion shares from all the trust accounts and companies that sold the stock. If you sell 622 billion shares between five different accounts. Then you resell 622 billion into other accounts. Then you resell 622 billion into more accounts. Then you sell 622 billion in to more accounts? Gee you get the message. What better way for these crooks not to get caught for many years by using shell companies, trust accounts, phoney names and so on. If they HAD used "real investors", they would not have lasted this long. Also regarding UC losing the claims, the original contact gets null and voided for any illegal activity. The task force site also stated, IF YOU LEGALLY BOUGHT YOUR SHARES AND NEVER SOLD THEM, YOU WERE ENTITLED TO A STOCK CERT. Swingtraders would not GET A CERT. By: snoopstock5 02 May 2010, 11:57 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 929945 of 929953 (Reply to 929944 by snoopstock5) Jump to msg. # Don't forget about UC forward split of 2 for 1, which would make the crooks shares 622,000,000,000 x 2 = 1,244,000,000,000 to start naked shorting. There were approimately 28 different accounts that shares were sold into. Just to give an example, 28 divided by 5 equals 5.6 1,244,000,000,000 x 5.6 = 6,966,400,000,000. Give or take just an example.
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Post by soonerlew on May 2, 2010 13:09:22 GMT -5
Starlight King of Diamonds Re: Question about gifting « Reply #4 Yesterday at 10:41pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I did a bit of research a few months ago about gift taxes on the internet and found out that I can "gift" an individual $13,000 per year without MY having to pay any taxes on it; and if I were married then both my husband and I can each individually gift that person $13,000 per year ($26,000 total) without incurring any taxes. But I also talked with a dear friend of mine who is an accountant and he shared with me a loophole in the system. Let's say I wanted to buy someone a brand new car for $30,000. Then I would be liable for the spread difference between $30,000 and $13,000 (which would be the taxes on $17,000). THE GIFTER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE TAXES, NOT THE ONE RECEIVING THE GIFT. But let's say that I "sold" that car to this friend for let's say ($1.00 or $100.00) then it is no longer a "GIFT" but a "SALE." This is the loophole where you can give more generous gifts without having to be responsible for the taxes above $13,000. Another loophole is to give GIFT CARDS for anything above the $13,000 the government allows an individual to gift another. Can't use gift cards for rent or the mortgage...but for most other smaller expenses (groceries, restaurants, clothing, etc...) Hope this helps... Starlight « Last Edit: Yesterday at 11:05pm by Starlight » tramp2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=12447
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Post by briwadd on May 2, 2010 13:19:06 GMT -5
I have to agree with Portrush, it is very possible that we may never hear from Mr. Hodges again unless something gets us delayed for a extended period of time. If we are a go, I think we will hear from the Trustee next through a packet at the front door. Don, IMHO! It is HIGHLY unlikely that we will not hear from Al Hodges again. In fact, we will hear from Hodges again, guarantee it. Regardless of the outcome, Hodges will inevitably address the shareholders at some point in the future. Hopefully, he announces that economic receipt is received this week. Once receipt is received, the plantiffs will be notified. I am guessing the news will make the boards before Al makes the official announcement. IMO - which is usually right Briwadd
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Post by soonerlew on May 2, 2010 13:39:06 GMT -5
By: leowanta 02 May 2010, 02:21 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 929954 of 929957
Jump to msg. # WARNING, ..DO NOT CONVERT YOUR NEVADA CERT FOR THE TYLER CERT!
Tyler Texas CMKM DIAMONDS,INC and ONLINE TRANSFER are NOT CMKXERS COMPANY...they are a fraud.
once you convert your Nevada Certificate, you cannot get it back.
PROOF: Call your broker and ask them if CMKM Diamonds, Inc, Tyler Texas with their ONLINE TRANSFER..in anyway is connected to your Nevada Certificate......THE ANSWER IS NO.
i explained the fraud to TDAMERITRADE...the broker i talked to warned me not to get involved with ONLINE TRANSFER or TYLER TEXAS CMKM because they have no records in their brokerage supporting TYLER TEXAS CMKM as being in charge of any business related to my Nevada Certificates....CMKM Diamonds, Inc. and CASAVANT INTERNATIONAL MINING........
the broker advised i should go to the Texas State Administrator and make them aware of the Securities Fraud by TYLER TEXAS CMKM and have their CERTIFICATE OF CONVERSION REVOKED....i told the broker i already talked to the TEXAS SOS, and they told me they could not delete the Certificate unless a court ordered it or SEC/FBI demanded they do it.....therefore, the broker ENCOURAGED me to contact the FBI.
so, folks, if your broker has the tyler company listed as point of contact, they may be aiding and abetting....TDAMERITRADE IS CLEAN.....the broker is going to elevate this information to their re-organization department and request they let other brokerages houses know of the tyler texas fraud.
i called to ensure my correct address was on my account, explained that it is possible the DTCC Trust will make distribution and will verify my address through my borkerage. The broker told me that was very possible; the the DTCC would have access without question to my account information; since they ex-cleared my trades.
so there you have it people....THERE IS NO NEED FOR A TRANSFER AGENT.....THE BROKER TOLD ME LEGALLY, NO CERTIFICATES CAN BE TRANSFERRED AT THIS STAGE OF THE GAME...I TOLD ME TYLER HAD CONVERTED SOME NEVADA CERTIFICATES TO THE TYLER CMKM CERTIFICATES USING ONLINE TRANSFER......HE SAID CONTACT THE SEC IMMEDIATELY!
THANK YOU FATHER
leowanta
leowanta
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Post by soonerlew on May 2, 2010 13:43:14 GMT -5
goodolboy Diamond Driller Re: Is this true about the new CMKX? « Reply #3 Today at 7:45am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yesterday at 7:36pm, csneither wrote Welcome to the board csneither! Looks like Tyler is moving forward and we should have this trading again within the next year or two. My undersdanding is they have completed (or very near completion) the 2 years audited financials as required in order to trade again. And, don't mind Jack. He's a good guy but has his quirks. cmkxunitedforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=14483
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Post by soonerlew on May 2, 2010 13:47:50 GMT -5
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 2, 2010 14:40:35 GMT -5
By: tuscan9 02 May 2010, 03:06 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 929960 of 929963 (Reply to 929925 by oil.ipo)
Jump to msg. # oil.ipo... no doubt in my mind the Trustee has had the money since years end .. 2009~
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Post by deltadon30228 on May 2, 2010 15:45:39 GMT -5
Briwadd,
If you feel that way then why are you so negative and asking 100 questions like you don't know, your last response to me sounds like you have it all figured out, Which is it?
Don, IMO!
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Post by beavis on May 2, 2010 15:58:02 GMT -5
Had to bring this over... -------------- "Well then I feel sorry for you allfor believing in that. I'll feel sorry for myself if you all are right in your belief that we will receive money from our government. The state of our ecomony I find hard to believe that they will let this money go to us." Nicholas Portrush: "I won't feel sorry for you one bit...and I'm sure I'm not alone. So you will be left to wallow in your state of sorriness. THAT and the fact that your blatant misrepresentation or misunderstanding is so obviously stated to deter those that might not understand from realizing that the government isn't releasing any of its money at all." cmkxunitedforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=14484Put them in their place! (tired of people " " about how "it won't happen, etc, etc")
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Post by skiptracy1 on May 2, 2010 16:29:12 GMT -5
i am glad you dont have certs ....... every time for the rest of your life you see a limo,,,think of us .........dimwit
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Post by Catdaddy on May 2, 2010 16:34:33 GMT -5
i am glad you dont have certs ....... every time for the rest of your life you see a limo,,,think of us .........dimwit Later, Catdaddy
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Post by briwadd on May 2, 2010 17:06:24 GMT -5
Briwadd, If you feel that way then why are you so negative and asking 100 questions like you don't know, your last response to me sounds like you have it all figured out, Which is it? Don, IMO! My last response to you was regarding whether or not we would hear from Al Hodges again. I am more than confident we will hear from Hodges again regardless of the outcome. As far as a 100 questions....Well, if I have a question I ask it.. Don't know any other way to explain it. I am well aware that noone owes me an answer, but it doesn't mean I can't ask! Briwadd
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Post by soonerlew on May 2, 2010 17:35:17 GMT -5
By: tuscan9 02 May 2010, 03:06 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 929960 of 929963 (Reply to 929925 by oil.ipo) Jump to msg. # oil.ipo... no doubt in my mind the Trustee has had the money since years end .. 2009~ By: oil.ipo 02 May 2010, 05:55 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 929988 of 929995 (Reply to 929960 by tuscan9) Jump to msg. # Tuscan9- Sometime between year end forward is my guess, and previously those (shareholders) who are highly regarded by some of the shareholders in PT land (two in particular and nameless here) had this ER accomplished already last year sometime. My point is if that mistake could have been made once by those expecting with their connections to government/banking influences then I can assure you that I am correct and CMKX is all about what I posted earlier. Leveraged settlement, last in line= CMKX, and when it comes it's payday for all in line preceding it. Just like many of us heard so many times previously. Now, what the hold up is I really don't care anymore as it's always someone in the way of others. Just freakin get it out. As well, this is not about Mr. Hodges for me, never is. I like the guy. So I have no doubt that if the rumors regarding such receipt of funds to trustee were insinuated , coming from plaintiffs themselves in the background, etc., wherever it leaked, then there is only so much possibility of that origin. Many heard them. These plaintiffs themselves have a vested interest in seeing this happening, and only if they did not would there be a huge compromise of their integrity, and I am not going there today. Not my interest at all. I am willing to call it good intention. That being said. We are there. No other call to be made. None. - Once the ball rolls over the top of any hill ,it then rolls back down, over the other side. Not back the way where it initially came, and that is why I cannot see some of these constant ambiguous, and arbitrary discussions about the where with all of such obvious happenings after the facto. I can see the reasons for some of these other rumors and grandiosity. Now if rumors of completion were done/generated to create more havoc, and further stall people then these are some evil individuals. Let's not go there either. It's done, WELL DONE. JMHO2~ Cheers...Oil, and in the end it's all good so who cares. Just pay the shareholders. Oil
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