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Post by Display Name on Jun 15, 2010 7:55:53 GMT -5
SO when are you going to tell these fine people what info you stated as fact has now changed? BH I respect what you and AH and the other plaintiffs are trying to do, but dont be hostile with us when we ask for proof, because we have all seen this chapter many times before. This last post of your tells a tale that we have heard before, Iam just waiting for you to tell us with your own words the changes in the 'facts' now. I write this with the upmost respect to you sir, but you know these people are going to explode. And no Sooner its not my place to tell you why we wont like the next update, its BH's place. Iam just waiting like everyone else. imo. Coach Hello Coach, When I posted "What I post is what I know and verified. There may be changes, like the schedule for disbursement, the court date, new information, key individuals..ect, but at the time of the initial release the information was/is correct. Same goes for Attorney Hodges's information. " was in response to a post stating Attorney Hodges and the Plaintiffs were providing misinformation as part of the plan. We are not part of any plan to provide misinformation. We are trying to get the funds released as quickly as possible. My statement is quite clear what has changed. Why did you post "Be ready the next update is not going to be pretty!"? Do you have information that the Plaintiffs and Attorney Hodges need to know? I have not heard this, just wondering where you heard this and why you posted this message "And no Sooner its not my place to tell you why we wont like the next update, its BH's place."? You are the one who made the statement "we wont like the next update.", not me. Thank you, BHollenegg Put up or shut up coach!!
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Post by goldengriff on Jun 15, 2010 7:57:37 GMT -5
THE FOLLOWING IS NOT MY QUOTE AND IT DOES REFER TO SHAREHOLDERS IN ANOTHER ONE OF THE CONGLOMERATE COMPANIES. HOWEVER, YOU CMKXERS ARE APART OF THE CONGLOMERATE SO THIS APPLIES TO YOU AS WELL
"When all the dust settles the time will come for the share holders, patience to be rewarded beyond their wildest dreams!!! "
CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE PATIENT LONGS
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 15, 2010 8:36:11 GMT -5
SO when are you going to tell these fine people what info you stated as fact has now changed? BH I respect what you and AH and the other plaintiffs are trying to do, but dont be hostile with us when we ask for proof, because we have all seen this chapter many times before. This last post of your tells a tale that we have heard before, Iam just waiting for you to tell us with your own words the changes in the 'facts' now. I write this with the upmost respect to you sir, but you know these people are going to explode. And no Sooner its not my place to tell you why we wont like the next update, its BH's place. Iam just waiting like everyone else. imo. Coach Well Coach, YOU are the one that came to this board and made insinuations. Your posting of .."Be ready the next update is not going to be pretty!" ... suggests that you feel you are privy to some sort of information, that allows you to make this statement. Evidently according to BH's reply, it appears he deems he is not privy to the same. The members here would appreciate it if you would back up your claims with specific clarification. If the information you have heard is questionable or just your opinion, it can be stated as such. To come here, dangle the carrot, and then just walk off into the sunset is not giving the shareholders the respect the rightfullly deserve. SINGLE
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 15, 2010 9:13:27 GMT -5
Alan Treffry's clarification of a post from January 2009. (that someone had ressurected) A retraction and an apology to BH.A Letter of Retraction to Bob Hollenegg:In January of '09, before I understood more of who Robert Hollenegg truly was, I wrote the following post on TheLion.com as a response to some of Bob's comments made on Paltalk and perhaps some other boards. Here was the post I wrote: www.thelion.com/bin/forum.cgi?sf=cmkx&msg=212&cmd=r&t=After getting to understand more of who Bob truly is, and being recently asked by Bob if I did indeed write this post in January of 2009, I responded this evening to Bob with the following letter, retracting and apologizing for my former post. Here is my communication to Bob Hollenegg tonight: __________________________ "Hello Bob, Yes, I have to admit I wrote this post before I came to understand more of who you were. I actually had forgotten that I wrote it. I apologize for any negative connotations it raised. My intention was to have people be leery of anyone who was in the "guru" position because there have been so many false prophets out there in the past, and I deal with so many people who have been harmed by the roller coaster ride the gurus keep us dealing with. After a time, it wears on me, not just the ride I see others experiencing, but the one I have dealt with myself. Again, my sincere apologies for any unkindness that emanated from the post or any untruths it may have led people to believe. Please feel free to post this statement on any board. I will post it on TheLion.com and link it to paltalk as well. Sincerely, AT" __________________________ The reality of the situation is that I have come to know Bob through my interaction as a co-plaintiff in the lawsuit with Al Hodges. From that interaction, I believe Bob to be sincere, a man of high integrity, who is strongly behind our cause. I not only apologize to Bob for any comments that were unfair to him, but to anyone else who relied upon my post in forming their opinion of, or in dealing with Bob. Had I remembered I wrote this post before today, I would have already issued a retraction and apology. I still encourage people to be leery of any person they may meet online, especially related to this stock or other investment recommendations. We have had many deceivers frequent our lives over the past several years, and it has cost us as a group in the tens of millions of dollars. However, there have also been many good men and women who have not had the luxury of meeting us personally, some unable to reveal to us their true identities and purpose for good reasons, and those persons should not suffer due to people on the dark side. I promise you that my intention has not been to harm people or wrongfully discredit them as I have done with Bob, but to get to the truth and try to protect people from others who would mislead them. Sometimes it is a fine line to walk and as in this case, I have stepped over it. Thank you for listening. Sincerely, Allan Treffry
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Post by NobleForce2 on Jun 15, 2010 9:26:21 GMT -5
SO when are you going to tell these fine people what info you stated as fact has now changed? BH I respect what you and AH and the other plaintiffs are trying to do, but dont be hostile with us when we ask for proof, because we have all seen this chapter many times before. This last post of your tells a tale that we have heard before, Iam just waiting for you to tell us with your own words the changes in the 'facts' now. I write this with the upmost respect to you sir, but you know these people are going to explode. And no Sooner its not my place to tell you why we wont like the next update, its BH's place. Iam just waiting like everyone else. imo. Coach Well Coach, YOU are the one that came to this board and made insinuations. Your posting of .."Be ready the next update is not going to be pretty!" ... suggests that you feel you are privy to some sort of information, that allows you to make this statement. Evidently according to BH's reply, it appears he deems he is not privy to the same. The members here would appreciate it if you would back up your claims with specific clarification. If the information you have heard is questionable or just your opinion, it can be stated as such. To come here, dangle the carrot, and then just walk off into the sunset is not giving the shareholders the respect the rightfullly deserve. SINGLE No kidding.
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Post by pootsa on Jun 15, 2010 9:50:35 GMT -5
Is this the same coach who was buddy buddy with Acca? Amazing how the Acca and Belgium people are now jaded, those who were responsible and supportive of the years of outlandish BS. Now, there's a new sheriff in town and these Acca, Belgium supporters come out of the woodwork with the same types of posts that some of us used put out there about their heros. At the least you are posting with respect. We have all been concerned to some degree. We shall see what becomes of this. By: bhollenegg 12 Jun 2010, 07:01 AM EDT Msg. 940513 of 940527 (Reply to 940510 by oreodiamonds) Oreodiamonds..I do not post misinformation. What I post is what I know and verified. There may be changes, like the scheduled for disbursement, the court date,[glow=red,2,300] new information[/glow], key individuals..ect, but at the time of the initial release the information was/is correct. Same goes for Attorney Hodges's information. Thank you, BHollenegg ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI SO when are you going to tell these fine people what info you stated as fact has now changed? BH I respect what you and AH and the other plaintiffs are trying to do, but dont be hostile with us when we ask for proof, because we have all seen this chapter many times before. This last post of your tells a tale that we have heard before, Iam just waiting for you to tell us with your own words the changes in the 'facts' now. I write this with the upmost respect to you sir, but you know these people are going to explode. And no Sooner its not my place to tell you why we wont like the next update, its BH's place. Iam just waiting like everyone else. imo. Coach
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 15, 2010 10:50:46 GMT -5
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Post by coachphilm on Jun 15, 2010 13:18:46 GMT -5
I will start by saying,(IMO) because I have no written proof nor does the person inside scanning thier data base.
1. There is no trust with 3.78Trillion dollars in it. You say yes! 2. There is no Trust fund exclusively for CMKX, CMKI,CMKM shareholders. You say yes! 3. It would have to be a more broader name, and if one is there its for a much larger group than just us. 4. You sate the ammount for bonified shareholders is 6.00 per share. I say no!
I will say I think monies may have been set aside from some brokers and Etc. who over sold(NSS) our company, but not 6.00 per share.
5. This one you may choose not to answere, I understand. Has AH conveyed to you 7 that there is a very good chance this will be thrown out by the judge, and the request to dimiss is very high, compared to we have enough to goto court.
As I stated earlier Bob, I have the upmost respect and this is in no way to be construed as an attempt to discredit you or anyone from the Team that is working so hard to get the shareholders, something. Rest assured I understand, when your in communication with certain info and people it is very easy to see the data from a one sided view.
There is know one more than I that would love to get a ROI, after loosing everything I have in the last 3yrs. It has been brutal, on me and my family. But until we see the evidence that clearly shows OUR NAME(and only our name) as recipients of any acct, will I allow myself or any of my friends to get our hopes up. We have done so, so many times in the past and have been let down by some of, what we could verify at the time, very promenant people involved in this company to end up getting nothing in return, but hollow promises and more let downs.
In closing, I wish we could stop this wait another 30days, BS. because it always seems we are asked to wait another week or month. Its getting very old. (Shareholder since 09/03)
Bob you know I respect what you have done, and there is nothing wrong with proper disagreement as long as it is done with respect, and Honor.
IMO Coach, SemperFi "for you non-Marines, that means" ALWAYS FAITHFUL"
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Post by squeezebox on Jun 15, 2010 13:56:16 GMT -5
Coach...why can't you just sit back and wait or go away? You aren't going to get the answers you seek until AH is done with his legal stuff, that is a fact! So why keep trying to discredit BH and just take what he says with a grain of salt and continue to hope? It does look like that's what you are trying to do with your continued attacks on his info. You can cry, whine and demand all you want but my bet is it will get you nowhere, except more stressed out. No one ever said you and your friends have to believe anything, just wait like you already have been doing. BH says $6 a share because thats what the math works out too, that's it! I don't know what you don't get about all this?
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Post by gabbyhayes on Jun 15, 2010 14:00:40 GMT -5
Ok coach...then answer me one question...if you've been here for 7 years...just what would anyone gain from perpetuating a monumental scam of historic proportions for the past 8 years featuring the largest certificate pull by shareholders in HISTORY...do you really believe that with all this water under the bridge..so many years..that an attorney with 40 years litigating in Federal courts is going to fabricate a 3.7 trillion dollar trust and then initiate a court proceeding to come out of it looking like a jackazzz....I really don't think so...not when individuals like Bhollenegg vouch for A.H actions...THAT MY FRIEND SAYS IT ALL......
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Post by coachphilm on Jun 15, 2010 14:05:35 GMT -5
Coach...why can't you just sit back and wait or go away? You aren't going to get the answers you seek until AH is done with his legal stuff, that is a fact! So why keep trying to discredit BH and just take what he says with a grain of salt and continue to hope? It does look like that's what you are trying to do with your continued attacks on his info. You can cry, whine and demand all you want but my bet is it will get you nowhere, except more stressed out. No one ever said you and your friends have to believe anything, just wait like you already have been doing. BH says $6 a share because thats what the math works out too, that's it! I don't know what you don't get about all this? Because Iam not a sheep or a follower, I have used my right as a free American to voice my opinion, with respect and honor. Know where will you see that Iam trying to discredit or deface anyones reputation or honor. I simply ask questions and debate WITH respect and no personal digs to any poster who I dissagree with. Good debate is good for everyone. So until the Gov takes away what few rights we have left, I will continue to voice my opinion, respectfully and continue hoping on a possitive outcome. My training does not allow me to take info at face value anymore without documented proof, even in my daily tasks. Not a luxury in todays economy. Coach PS this is the rumor thread by the way.
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Post by coachphilm on Jun 15, 2010 14:15:54 GMT -5
Ok coach...then answer me one question...if you've been here for 7 years...just what would anyone gain from perpetuating a monumental scam of historic proportions for the past 8 years featuring the largest certificate pull by shareholders in HISTORY...do you really believe that with all this water under the bridge..so many years..that an attorney with 40 years litigating in Federal courts is going to fabricate a 3.7 trillion dollar trust and then initiate a court proceeding to come out of it looking like a jackazzz....I really don't think so...not when individuals like Bhollenegg vouch for A.H actions...THAT MY FRIEND SAYS IT ALL...... Gabby, I dont discredit there is monies somewhere allocated for us( I sure Hope so anyways) Iam simply pointing out AH has said himself he is not asking the Gov for 3.78T but just those funds for us. Iam just pointing out it maybe a more broader "trust" than just for a group of 50k shareholders and is in no means a 6.00 payout. People read into some of this info and when it is not what they presieve get alot more upset than if the info was put into the correct content. And without seeing the info first hand one cannot make thier own outcome. So to sit here and let someone else desifer the info and tell me it's this way, I have some issues with just what EXACTLY the info is. No more no less. It doesnt make me less of a long shareholder, just one that has been burnt to many times because someone else viewed the info the wrong way without looking at same info from both sides. Coach
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Post by squeezebox on Jun 15, 2010 14:21:22 GMT -5
Coach nobody said for you to take anything at face value, how you interpret stuff is definitely your right. But you keep asking questions that have no answers right now. No one has the info you seek but AH (if he even has it) and you aren't going to get it until this is over or maybe not even then so just quit asking for it, it's just the way it is right now. You have lived this long without knowing those answers. I don't believe a lot of it either but understand that there are many things that wouldn't be happening if there wasn't something going on, what I don't know and will not until there is some closure, good or bad! Grab a beer and go sit by the pool and try not to think about it, there is nothing else you can do and that is a fact!
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Post by jimbob on Jun 15, 2010 14:47:25 GMT -5
This company is about CMKX not Coa... right? Let's not forget that.
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Post by scorpion on Jun 15, 2010 14:55:25 GMT -5
Do you think that the info is false coming from BHollenegg? DO you think that it's unreasonable for one of the plaintifs to share that kind of info with us? Bob just got through stating that he is not part of some misinformation group. I'm appreciative that he continues to stick his neck out there, despite being torn to shreds, to give us something. just my $6.00 worth and yes I'm expecting no less than that, unless it's taxable. Ok coach...then answer me one question...if you've been here for 7 years...just what would anyone gain from perpetuating a monumental scam of historic proportions for the past 8 years featuring the largest certificate pull by shareholders in HISTORY...do you really believe that with all this water under the bridge..so many years..that an attorney with 40 years litigating in Federal courts is going to fabricate a 3.7 trillion dollar trust and then initiate a court proceeding to come out of it looking like a jackazzz....I really don't think so...not when individuals like Bhollenegg vouch for A.H actions...THAT MY FRIEND SAYS IT ALL...... Gabby, I dont discredit there is monies somewhere allocated for us( I sure Hope so anyways) Iam simply pointing out AH has said himself he is not asking the Gov for 3.78T but just those funds for us. Iam just pointing out it maybe a more broader "trust" than just for a group of 50k shareholders and is in no means a 6.00 payout. People read into some of this info and when it is not what they presieve get alot more upset than if the info was put into the correct content. And without seeing the info first hand one cannot make thier own outcome. So to sit here and let someone else desifer the info and tell me it's this way, I have some issues with just what EXACTLY the info is. No more no less. It doesnt make me less of a long shareholder, just one that has been burnt to many times because someone else viewed the info the wrong way without looking at same info from both sides. Coach
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