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Post by jayhawk1 on Jun 25, 2010 12:55:19 GMT -5
Squeezbox "It all sounds good Oaks except for the fact that I was with TD waterhouse and they did a company wide cert pull on their own and sent my remaining certs without me asking them too. I got all mine, if they didn't have enough, how did they determine who got theirs and who didn't. I'm not sure I believe you about your friend." I can confirm what Oaks is saying is true, because "his friend" was my stepson!! My stepson has not only spoke to TD Waterhouse managers, he has spoke to Bill Frizzel, TransferOnline, Gus Jarvis all to no avail. He has now resorted to sending TD Waterhouse a registered letter (along with a copy of his statement, showing the shares in his account) stating that he is holding TD Waterhouse responsible for any losses that he inccurs due to then holding up his certs! TrueBrit True.. Make sure he is sending these requests registered mail and he is keeping any number by which these requests can be traced or tracked. As you know the DTCC has liquidated their CMKM position and sent the shares to the brokerage. I trust that he has this all laid neatly and copied the Company with these requests as well. As I've stated, he could be part of the FTD position in CMKM.
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Post by coachphilm on Jun 25, 2010 13:35:00 GMT -5
No wonder AH never charged the plantiffs with any fees, this whole case seems to rely on "inside info" and I doubt there was never any evidence showed to AH. Just an inside source. Once again it seems we have been played with again, this time they used people we trusted to spread these "rumors" to the shareholders, I think we are in for a very long and disapointed weekend, imo Go ahead a rip me a new one, I said weeks ago, without proof these updates are going to pizz people off. But everyoneone wants to believe every word promising riches without demanding evidence. So when we get the update, and there is no mention of a payday, dont you dare change sides and get pizzed off. Some of us have asked in a polite way for proof that they have SEEN the trust and the 3.78T, but everyone kept saying they are trusted people. I agree they are trusted people, but it does not excuse the fact that they maybe played just like Mahue and several others. If the powers to be can lie to Governments arround the World you dont think they will lie to trusted shareholders and lawyers?. Please! This is starting to look like the same ole empty promises from un-named sources that never pan out. Ive been pizzed since I wrote the msg "we are not going to like the update". Coach all imo ps. I hope Iam wrong, but the last 7-8 yrs of the same ole empty promises of riches,(based on rumors) tells me different. I find it rather amusing that you are pissed now? Lmao. Ok coach. Now your mad about "un-named sources that never pan out." Kinda like you cheerleading for your buddy acca all those times in paltalk, eh? You toyed with people's emotions over and over. I am personally excited about this update that we are supposed to get and the letter that the astute Port received from Hodges. I have full faith that this will happen, I'm just not overly confident that it will happen anytime this year. And hey F4d....hate us all you want. You're the one that decided to make your bed as such, so lay in it, wallow in it, and be happy when you get paid. I hope you do some good with it. I truly believe we are going to be given the chance to remake the iconic phrase "pay it forward" a total, radically new meaning! GLTUA! Thank you Al, Bob Hollenegg, every admin/mod here and those committed to seeing us through the end of this crazy cmkx machine, and may God bless each and every one of us with focus, compassion, forgiveness and the fortitude to ultimately give Him the glory he deserves and desires so much. Your correct, butt what you fail to point out is the daily phone calls and skype meetings where I tore him up with questions and demanding proof, when he provided info the 5-10 people who were also on the skype, we would call and try to verify all the info he brought to our attention, and yes alot of info he gave was at best obscured data that took us days to connect, we even talked to UC and several people he would bring up. There was alot of info that what he said did confirm with the links and people we talked to, then Acca went off the deep end and I hammered him to no end, thats when I started getting less info and decided to let it go and just hammer him with questions he couldnt respond to. So yeah I speak to you with lots of expierence in getting PROOF now from ANYONE promising riches, no matter who they are. We even talked to Morris from the DTCC when that story broke and was asked for my diposition on the subject from previous mgmnt. So dont sit there and think for one second that I and many others wasnt trying to find the truth in all this clouded BS we keep seeing! We have all learned from the past and with that demand and ask hard questions. Dont think for one second that I was a blinded cheerleader, I have asked hard questions and have demanded proof form everyone for a very long time. I'll end with this, ask Manny if I didnt ask and demand answeres to tuff questions, Ive spent many of dollars and travel all over to seek the info, from Acca, spending hours with UC and traveling to meet even Deli. at one time I was very active in finding the truth for all of us long shareholders without asking for nothing but the truth. So be careful throwing stones in a glass house, without knowing the facts! Coach
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Post by deltadon30228 on Jun 25, 2010 13:42:43 GMT -5
Redistribution of Wealth
I’ve been posting several posts about where Obama stands on certain issues and what has been transpiring from Financial Reform Bill to Cap and Trade in regards to what I think CMKX is directly related to. There are other things we are indirectly connected to as well. My faithful crew that always wants to attack my posts will do the same with this one but maybe this one will bring together where I’ve actually been going with my last several posts, other than the ones I’m defending myself against those dirty little scoundrels with ugly intentions.
Everything you see Obama doing and working on that has anything to do with the economy is purely a big redistribution of wealth agenda, and this is what brings me to my assessment from my DD and that of others, not just beating a drum to get you to believe what I believe without giving you a basis for my assumptions and theory. Remember this is just my opinion.
Example: Cap and Trade, let’s say we have a Green Job after Cap and Trade is passed, and let’s say it’s to build solar panels. The cost per job for Green Jobs, meaning the subsidy to create each one, is on a par for efficiency and wastefulness with a “Stimulus” job. Although tremendous amounts can be spent creating each job, that does not mean the money goes to lavishly compensated solar panel manufactures, installers, and maintainers. That money, which is often in the hundreds of thousands dollars per job, goes to what we might call “overhead”, meaning that it only makes sense that the unionized federal labor force will also proliferate under these mandates. Spain is a good example for Green jobs since they have been down this road already. In Spain the taxpayer spent the equivalent of $753,778 dollars for each Green job, that the sum vastly exceeds a standard union workers wages was no exception (where does the excess go?). White House claims the average stimulus “Green Jobs” would be $135,294 per job. I think that is a very low figure with the amounts of funding that is going or allotted to Green companies. Example Job, 11-05, 2009 Boston Globe reported, Evergreen Solar, a factory in Devens, MA. was given $58 million in state aid for creating 350 green jobs, which it did, within a year production was moved to China, jobs gone, what happened to the $58 million? Transfer of huge wealth from taxpayer to Evergreen solar. HMMMMM!
This is an awfully large transfer of wealth from individual taxpayers to institutional framework supporting these programs. What happens to the extra stimulus aid that these companies get? Well if it is in the stimulus requirements to have them union jobs, wouldn’t it be a great way for the unions to funnel that extra money back to their massive underfunded pensions? More Union dues being paid, Or even giving politicians some campaign funding, for reelection? This is just one aspect of Cap and Trade, there's more.
Example: Financial regulation reform, taxing each investment transaction, funneling money from investors to the government so they can redistribute to welfare programs that are underfunded.
Example: Health Care Reform, this bill is full of new taxes on the middle class and Cadillac plans all to redistribute to those who don’t have insurance.
Example: BP Oil Spill, I know he didn’t cause the oil spill but even that is a massive transfer of wealth from a corporation to the working class, a minimum of $20 billion. I know this one is not so much because it’s a disaster and BP should pay, but as far as how Obama has handled it, I think it shows his way of thinking.
Example: CMKX and other NSS stock of Wall Street, this will be a massive redistribution of wealth by means of transferring funds from the robber barons of Wall St. to the mostly middle class investor, through stock purchases like CMKX, mutual funds, pensions, etc.
These are a few of why I feel we are going to be paid, I’ve never mention a dollar figure, I have no idea of how much, but if you look at how Obama is working his agenda and what his agenda’s main focus is on, you see that we very well could be part of that redistribution of wealth that seems to be so consistent with his way of moving us forward. Why is it taking so long? This is a timed event and everything has it’s time and place for being instituted, as you can see we are getting closer to passing the financial regulations reform bill.
I hope this clears up where my train of thought is with CMKX and this is why I believe we will be paid and Mr. Hodges is going to carry the baton passed the finish line, and he is playing his role in the biggest transfer of wealth the globe will ever see in one event. Believe it or not! You decide for yourself.
TIMED EVENTS! TICK TOC, WE ARE SEEING TRANSFORMATION ALL AROUND US, GETTING CLOSER!
Ok, attack away boys!
Don, IMHO!
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Post by jayhawk1 on Jun 25, 2010 13:45:59 GMT -5
Just imagine...That little ol BP oil Spill is at least 100 times smaller than that Trust Fund Al's supposedly got evidence of..
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Post by deltadon30228 on Jun 25, 2010 13:51:55 GMT -5
Just imagine...That little ol BP oil Spill is at least 100 times smaller than that Trust Fund Al's supposedly got evidence of.. Yeah, isn't that cool!
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Post by varnson on Jun 25, 2010 18:29:19 GMT -5
Gee Don you really believe an avowed Marxist will give us each 10s of millions or even a million when that money can be used to fund programs like the failed mortgage debachle at Fannie/Freddy considering a year ago Jan 09 Fannie had capital value of 38 Billion and today it is valued at 500M.
Freddy is now valued at 1B losing 44 Billion in value. Both have been removed from the NYSE. I have read many that believe trillions will be given to the "common people" for what? We as investors may get something but no where near what you think or what others think.
Look around the world is broke and these mythical world settlements of 42 trillion a pure fantasy just as the 3.7T is for us...10B maybe but that is 3,690 Billion short of the 3.7T remember AH says HE BELIEVES there is a trust but we don't know if he has confirmed that in a way that is refutable.
The idea of this middle class wind fall is all wrong the middle class is having their wealth taken to be given to those below them and illegals thru free everything. Yes it's Utopia at its best....
I wish I felt the warm fuzzies like your view of the world mine is 180 degrees from yours and my view comes from the world view.
Your glorious leader is pleading at the G20 for more stimulus spending as we speak and all our allies are saying we have been down this road and we won't do it ever again and we advise you don't either...but sadly we are headed off a cliff.
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Post by squeezebox on Jun 25, 2010 18:58:54 GMT -5
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 25, 2010 20:10:28 GMT -5
Posted by: jimmym4 Date: Friday, June 25, 2010 7:04:20 PM In reply to: CHUNKY44 who wrote msg# 311223 Post # of 311252
Hmmmm Now WHY was
Al there that FAITHFUL day in 2007 when Urban turned the company over to
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Post by enoughalready on Jun 25, 2010 21:09:11 GMT -5
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Post by deltadon30228 on Jun 25, 2010 21:50:31 GMT -5
Gee Don you really believe an avowed Marxist will give us each 10s of millions or even a million when that money can be used to fund programs like the failed mortgage debachle at Fannie/Freddy considering a year ago Jan 09 Fannie had capital value of 38 Billion and today it is valued at 500M.
Freddy is now valued at 1B losing 44 Billion in value. Both have been removed from the NYSE. I have read many that believe trillions will be given to the "common people" for what? We as investors may get something but no where near what you think or what others think.
Look around the world is broke and these mythical world settlements of 42 trillion a pure fantasy just as the 3.7T is for us...10B maybe but that is 3,690 Billion short of the 3.7T remember AH says HE BELIEVES there is a trust but we don't know if he has confirmed that in a way that is refutable.
The idea of this middle class wind fall is all wrong the middle class is having their wealth taken to be given to those below them and illegals thru free everything. Yes it's Utopia at its best....
I wish I felt the warm fuzzies like your view of the world mine is 180 degrees from yours and my view comes from the world view.
Your glorious leader is pleading at the G20 for more stimulus spending as we speak and all our allies are saying we have been down this road and we won't do it ever again and we advise you don't either...but sadly we are headed off a cliff. Varnson, Does this mean your a fiscal conservative? I am. I will say you surely have a agenda here, that is obvious. I've never once said I'm a progressive or believed that is the way forward. As far as do I believe Obama would do this, yes, it's his M.O. redistribution of wealth, I never said he was a economical genius. I'm just glad I'm on the winning side having shares in CMKX. Once again though you have shown that you're only responding to my posts to attack them, because you seem to just speed read through it and not actually READ it, you need to brush up on your reading comprehension. You sure miss a boat load of words when you read my posts. I also said, I've never been quoted as saying how much, did you miss that part? I will give you this, you have a lot of experience in posting for your objective. You're still too quick to draw with your posts, tells me you're intentions are to really battle with me, you're still not spell checking though. Slow Down a bit. As far as a middle class windfall, I didn't say that, I said that the redistribution of wealth in the NSS with the trusts will give to a group of middle class investors through stock, mutual funds and pensions, I didn't say the entire middle class would have a windfall. Plus I said the middle class will be hit the hardest with taxes in the health care bill. Dude you have to read the post entirely. You're just scanning so you can fire and attack me quick. Man, you're so obvious with why your here. Now, I didn't call you any names or swear, I would ask that you do the same from here on out. I think deep down inside you really enjoy the tug a war with me. Your posts have educated meaning, but we just disagree with the outcome of this venture. Cheers! Don, IMHO!
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Post by goodolboy on Jun 26, 2010 8:04:56 GMT -5
Gee Don you really believe an avowed Marxist will give us each 10s of millions or even a million when that money can be used to fund programs like the failed mortgage debachle at Fannie/Freddy considering a year ago Jan 09 Fannie had capital value of 38 Billion and today it is valued at 500M.
Freddy is now valued at 1B losing 44 Billion in value. Both have been removed from the NYSE. I have read many that believe trillions will be given to the "common people" for what? We as investors may get something but no where near what you think or what others think.
Look around the world is broke and these mythical world settlements of 42 trillion a pure fantasy just as the 3.7T is for us...10B maybe but that is 3,690 Billion short of the 3.7T remember AH says HE BELIEVES there is a trust but we don't know if he has confirmed that in a way that is refutable.
The idea of this middle class wind fall is all wrong the middle class is having their wealth taken to be given to those below them and illegals thru free everything. Yes it's Utopia at its best....
I wish I felt the warm fuzzies like your view of the world mine is 180 degrees from yours and my view comes from the world view.
Your glorious leader is pleading at the G20 for more stimulus spending as we speak and all our allies are saying we have been down this road and we won't do it ever again and we advise you don't either...but sadly we are headed off a cliff. Varnson, Does this mean your a fiscal conservative? I am. I will say you surely have a agenda here, that is obvious. I've never once said I'm a progressive or believed that is the way forward. As far as do I believe Obama would do this, yes, it's his M.O. redistribution of wealth, I never said he was a economical genius. I'm just glad I'm on the winning side having shares in CMKX. Once again though you have shown that you're only responding to my posts to attack them, because you seem to just speed read through it and not actually READ it, you need to brush up on your reading comprehension. You sure miss a boat load of words when you read my posts. I also said, I've never been quoted as saying how much, did you miss that part? I will give you this, you have a lot of experience in posting for your objective. You're still too quick to draw with your posts, tells me you're intentions are to really battle with me, you're still not spell checking though. Slow Down a bit. As far as a middle class windfall, I didn't say that, I said that the redistribution of wealth in the NSS with the trusts will give to a group of middle class investors through stock, mutual funds and pensions, I didn't say the entire middle class would have a windfall. Plus I said the middle class will be hit the hardest with taxes in the health care bill. Dude you have to read the post entirely. You're just scanning so you can fire and attack me quick. Man, you're so obvious with why your here. Now, I didn't call you any names or swear, I would ask that you do the same from here on out. I think deep down inside you really enjoy the tug a war with me. Your posts have educated meaning, but we just disagree with the outcome of this venture. Cheers! Don, IMHO! What agenda?
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Post by TallyHo on Jun 26, 2010 9:29:58 GMT -5
This is from the article posted by Southtexan on Disinformation Tactics: Can we see any of these tactics in some of our posters? HMMMM! Don, IMHO! Trolls use a wide variety of strategies, some of which are unique to the internet, here are just a few: 1) Make outrageous comments designed to distract or frustrate: An Alinsky tactic used to make people emotional, although less effective because of the impersonal nature of the web. 2) Pose as a supporter of the truth, then make comments that discredit the movement: We have seen this even on our own forums — trolls pose as supporters of the Liberty Movement, then post long, incoherent diatribes so as to appear either racist or insane. Here is a live example of this tactic in use on Yahoo! Answers. The key to this tactic is to make references to common Liberty Movement arguments while at the same time babbling nonsense, so as to make those otherwise valid arguments seem ludicrous by association. In extreme cases, these “Trojan Horse Trolls” have been known to make posts which incite violence — a technique obviously intended to solidify the false assertions of the notorious MIAC report and other ADL/SPLC publications which purport that constitutionalists should be feared as potential domestic terrorists. 3) Dominate Discussions: Trolls often interject themselves into productive web discussions in order to throw them off course and frustrate the people involved. 4) Prewritten Responses: Many trolls are supplied with a list or database with pre-planned talking points designed as generalized and deceptive responses to honest arguments. 9/11 “debunker” trolls are notorious for this. 5) False Association: This works hand in hand with item #2, by invoking the stereotypes established by the “Trojan Horse Troll.” For example: calling those against the Federal Reserve “conspiracy theorists” or “lunatics”. Deliberately associating anti-globalist movements with big foot or alien enthusiasts, because of the inherent negative connotations. Using false associations to provoke biases and dissuade people from examining the evidence objectively. 6) False Moderation: Pretending to be the “voice of reason” in an argument with obvious and defined sides in an attempt to move people away from what is clearly true into a “grey area” where the truth becomes “relative.” 7) Straw Man Arguments: A very common technique. The troll will accuse his opposition of subscribing to a certain point of view, even if he does not, and then attacks that point of view. Or, the troll will put words in the mouth of his opposition, and then rebut those specific words. For example: “9/11 truthers say that no planes hit the WTC towers, and that it was all just computer animation. What are they, crazy?” I can think of a few who appear to be using some of these tactics. you do know that jay is an admin on Fish's board, right? He is a shareholder, just pro Tyler and anti Hodges.
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Post by 3bid on Jun 26, 2010 15:15:41 GMT -5
By: oil.ipo 26 Jun 2010, 11:23 AM EDT Msg. 943244 of 943290 (Reply to 943126 by oil.ipo) Everyone's on board now. Tyler/Frizzell, Kevin West, Mr. Hodges, Old Team = New team, SEC, and their Porn sites, MADOFF (his wife), DTCC, DOJ, FBI, CIA, LEON PANETTA, BONNEY, COTTRELL, Leo Wanta, the one on Raging bull also, FRIZZELL (you get 2 mentions for implications of the double standards which you maintained/portrayed) , Prosperity Programs, even the World Scam Reports, not to forget Casper and Poofakins, and even most shareholders seem to buy into this garbage package. 'The hammer', the public threat for 'CMKX' to return to trading, the Huge valuation, the thrust of the trusts, which now suddenly exists, and great narration of such by those who have been drummed and are now drumming. ACCA gets it too, always has, just focuses on the little stifling stuff, and repeats a whole lot, always 30 days away 'end of the month'. Must pay his bills that way. 'We' have much to be grateful for. These CMKM DIAMONDS' SHAREHOLDERS. Everyone who needed to be paid off, in order to be paid, has been. Dipped in several times over, and even some who got a little relief, while others perished mostly. Now freakin cut this cash loose already. The public for the most part have bought into this scam of a lifetime. Not too many (shareholders) will sue your azzes if you pay up already. 'You' know who you are . Who you kid- din!?! Like you weren't here all along. Timed for the demise of the Federal Bankrupt Socialist, Elitist Reserve. How sweet it is, brilliant even. I call it the greatest science experiment on humanity, of a lifetime. Documented to be regrettably forgettable. (sarcasm) (BIG YAWN) PAY THE SHAREHOLDERS. AIMHO, Oil ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=943244
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Post by Sugarpaw on Jun 26, 2010 15:30:58 GMT -5
okay everyone, just remember.... Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. Sugarpaw
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Post by deltadon30228 on Jun 26, 2010 16:23:48 GMT -5
This is the most mass confusion I've seen for a long time, division building, propaganda, conspiracy theories, left wing/right wing. All is going as planned, confusion in the end, deniability, under the rug it goes.
I'm making a commitment to all, no more arguing with those who attack, except a LOL response. I have to admit, I allowed myself to get sucked into their game, no more. It's getting down right crazy, it's actually funny.
God Bless and good luck to all.
Don, IMHO!
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