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Post by mailman78 on Jun 26, 2010 7:10:07 GMT -5
I agree BK. Sounds like a 2for1 payday.Do you agree goodol? lol
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Post by goodolboy on Jun 26, 2010 7:23:22 GMT -5
Questions for you Goodolboy, actually for anyone: Kevin took a ride out and visited Al Hodges. Why do you think that is? Would he not have been able to call Al Hodges on the phone to verify the same info as relayed? What could have required a face to face meeting? One more....... Were you guys aware that Kevin, Bill and Al were friends with one another and support each other? I didn't. So much for Tyler distancing themselves from Hodges as a certain individual said. I think some people are going to be changing their minds fairly soon, yes, yes i do. Just to be clear it states the Mr. Hodges frimly believes he has irrefutable evidence, and not that Kevin believes he has it. It is disconcerting that he chose not to share the evidence with the company, nor the plaintiffs. Pootsa, It is my understanding that Kevin was out there to attend a hearing. I don not know this for fact. As for the friendship between them, yes I did. Anyone following the Tyler court cases from the beginning saw that Mr. Hodges was initially involved. What I found disconcerting about Mr. Hodges refusal to show anyone including Tyler and his own clients evidence of the existence of the trust speaks for itself. We can get into a great deal of discussion over strategy or security, but neither of those issues amount to a hill of beans. What happens is Mr. Hodges had a stroke or a heart attack this weekend? Who would take his place? Who would have access to the evidence? We've discussed over the years about NDA's being signed by every Tom, thingy and Harry, so why not have Mr. West sign one with respect to Mr. Hodges' evidence? Additionally, Mr. Hodges has roughly two weeks to produce the evidence it in court so as to not have the Bivens suit dismissed. So, why not rally Tyler's support two weeks out, and bring ALL CMKX shareholders together? Kevin's letter gave a great deal of support to Mr. Hodges efforts as well as the NSS/FTD issue which most here have been waiting for to come out of Tyler. But, YES it is disconcerting to me that at this stage of the game, sharing of evidence that could assist both "camps" in recovering our investments did not take place. Respectfully, this is just my opinion.
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Post by goodolboy on Jun 26, 2010 7:38:12 GMT -5
Maybe you missed the memo, but the plaintiffs were enlisted and have not paid Mr. Hodges anything other than filing fees. It never stops with you. Still, the plaintiffs are the only ones that have to know anything. Kevin is nobody in Al's quest. The company , as it stands, has no more to do with what Al is doing than AT&T.
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Post by goodolboy on Jun 26, 2010 7:45:58 GMT -5
I agree BK. Sounds like a 2for1 payday.Do you agree goodol? lol I prefer science fiction.
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Post by yankdawg on Jun 26, 2010 8:17:45 GMT -5
I will say this most of you have the right idea.
But seriously people GET A GRIP! Why would AL in his right mind want to share anything with anyone, just because some of you think you are in a Need to know basis! When you are playing a Game you do not want the other side to see what your playing with, also you dont know who you can trust on your side, so why not keep it to yourself? I am sure Kevin knows in a round about way, there are ways to tell people something without really telling them. I forgot who said this already but its called PLAUSIBLE Deniability!
I say this, either get on the train or get off! Some of you are straddling the line and its getting REALLY OLD. Its the same people day in and day out. Are you bashers? Disgrunteld Shareholders, I am sure there are some of both!
As Far as the UPDATE. I see this as a VERY POSITIVE thing. They have come out and in a round about way have said once everyone gets paid we will all get together and celebrate and tell you what the next step is to this Sale of the Century! Wealth will come, maybe not on the time frame we want, but it will come. There is a house I would like to buy that they just dropped the price 1 mil, so even myself is sitting back and waching this unfold! Hopefully when I get back from Vacation we will have some good news! Which the funny thing is I come back on July 12th, what a coincidence!
All in IMO of course! Since I know you guys are sticklers for that!
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Post by z06mike on Jun 26, 2010 8:53:51 GMT -5
All,
I have been watching this thing unfold as a shareholder since 2004. Aside from the grammical and spelling errors, I have had some difficulty understanding many of these posts. I believe this is largely due to misinformation. To add to that, it's a shame that some create disinformation by having multiple usernames enabling them to carry on conversations with themselves. This kind of behavior is not genius, it's sick and very sad. Although, I must say, the psychology is interesting, if not textbook, nonetheless.
I listened to the, now infamous, voice conversation with Acca the other night. What's scary is most of the people talking sounded like they were suffering from chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) and alcoholism and have bet the farm (credit cards, social security checks, etc.) on this stock. Yet, somehow have seen "the numbers." The old guy talking about $40 a share on a stock we paid .0001 for? Please let's all take a deep breath. And, stop dividing 3.87 trillion by 703 billion shares to come up with $5.50 a share. If you really believe you'll get $5.5 million for a $1,000 investment, I have some land in the gulf I'd like to sell you. Regardless of how honest AH, BH, et al, are, telling people to "do the math" is not a terribly ethical approach to instilling false hope. Even 54 cents is a longshot.
On the bright side, I am hopeful that we will at least know something by mid July. I am one of those who took a friend's advice and bought in. We are still friends. I pray for those that have strained or lost relationships. On that point, I applaud those that have tried to keep us little guys informed with some semblance of reality.
Mike
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Post by timonesock on Jun 26, 2010 9:06:07 GMT -5
go2guy Administrator member is offline Joined: Mar 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 5,705 Re: CMKM UPDATE 06/25/10 « Reply #7 Today at 4:22pm » Kevin is not going to provoke the masses. He's going to get as far out of the way and let this guy make an horses hind end out of himself so that when the chit does hit the fan, the Trust Fund Junkies can't blame Tyler. Kevin has skillfully placed Al Hodges on an Island, separate from the activities of the Company. He's deigned to visit with Hodges, chat, but has been denied the priviledge of seeing the proof and becoming a koolaide drinker....This puts Al in a bad light. Denying to show Tyler proof and enlist them in the search for the Holy Trust Fund makes it appear that Al has an agenda of his own. HMMMMMMMMM i have been getting these exact words from someone on this board in PM they must know each other WOW
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Post by davesaint on Jun 26, 2010 9:51:12 GMT -5
When the company moved to Tranfer Online didn't Kevin West or somewhat state that there was no need to registered with Transfer Online because they already have our info because of the Cert Pull? When I registered they already had mine. In Kevin's latest update he is telling all to register. Why the change?
Also could someone please explain the numbers 48,xxxx shareholders and 8,xxxx registered with Transfer Online. Are the 48,xxxx from the original cert pull and the 8,xxxx are who registered so far?
Davesaint
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Post by briwadd on Jun 26, 2010 9:54:12 GMT -5
go2guy Administrator member is offline Joined: Mar 2007 Gender: Male Posts: 5,705 Re: CMKM UPDATE 06/25/10 « Reply #7 Today at 4:22pm » Kevin is not going to provoke the masses. He's going to get as far out of the way and let this guy make an horses hind end out of himself so that when the chit does hit the fan, the Trust Fund Junkies can't blame Tyler. Kevin has skillfully placed Al Hodges on an Island, separate from the activities of the Company. He's deigned to visit with Hodges, chat, but has been denied the priviledge of seeing the proof and becoming a koolaide drinker....This puts Al in a bad light. Denying to show Tyler proof and enlist them in the search for the Holy Trust Fund makes it appear that Al has an agenda of his own. HMMMMMMMMM i have been getting these exact words from someone on this board in PM they must know each other WOW This is actually a reasonable post!. NOONE can see the evidence but Al? Not Dennis, not the plantiffs, not company officials, just Al Hodges? Makes absolutely no sense. My concern is that Al is placing too much trust in individuals that he does not know! What happened to Sheila's statement that ER was to be received this week? Did she lie? No, she was simply relaying what was told to her by Al (IMO). Did Al lie to Sheila? No, he was simply relaying to Sheila what was told to him by ?? (IMO). Briwadd
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Post by timonesock on Jun 26, 2010 10:06:45 GMT -5
What you didnt see is Jayhawk aka go2guy coming on this thread backing up Tyler like he has always done .
Tyler put out what they did about AH because they believe him to be credible and they know there are people like this character out there trying to discredit him.
And now he puts a new slant and reason why HE thinks that Kevin said what he said........so we are to listen to his interpretation of what Kevin said not what actually was said by Kevin makes me think this individual or MPD has some other agenda. Explain your agenda to us please Go2Guy
Timmay
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Post by pootsa on Jun 26, 2010 11:30:13 GMT -5
Thank you. I didn't know the reason why Kevin was out in California and i truly was not aware of their friendship. I have heard two reasons now for Kevin to be in California. 1. To hand over shareholders account information to Hodges. 2. Kevin was there for another court case. I'm sure we'll hear something else. I am confident that if Al did share important information with Kevin, then that information would be private and not for shareholder consumption. Publicly claiming to be in the dark would keep the shareholders from bombarding him with "did you get proof" questions, since many of us were aware that Kevin visited Hodges. Who really knows Questions for you Goodolboy, actually for anyone: Kevin took a ride out and visited Al Hodges. Why do you think that is? Would he not have been able to call Al Hodges on the phone to verify the same info as relayed? What could have required a face to face meeting? One more....... Were you guys aware that Kevin, Bill and Al were friends with one another and support each other? I didn't. So much for Tyler distancing themselves from Hodges as a certain individual said. I think some people are going to be changing their minds fairly soon, yes, yes i do. Pootsa, It is my understanding that Kevin was out there to attend a hearing. I don not know this for fact. As for the friendship between them, yes I did. Anyone following the Tyler court cases from the beginning saw that Mr. Hodges was initially involved. What I found disconcerting about Mr. Hodges refusal to show anyone including Tyler and his own clients evidence of the existence of the trust speaks for itself. We can get into a great deal of discussion over strategy or security, but neither of those issues amount to a hill of beans. What happens is Mr. Hodges had a stroke or a heart attack this weekend? Who would take his place? Who would have access to the evidence? We've discussed over the years about NDA's being signed by every Tom, thingy and Harry, so why not have Mr. West sign one with respect to Mr. Hodges' evidence? Additionally, Mr. Hodges has roughly two weeks to produce the evidence it in court so as to not have the Bivens suit dismissed. So, why not rally Tyler's support two weeks out, and bring ALL CMKX shareholders together? Kevin's letter gave a great deal of support to Mr. Hodges efforts as well as the NSS/FTD issue which most here have been waiting for to come out of Tyler. But, YES it is disconcerting to me that at this stage of the game, sharing of evidence that could assist both "camps" in recovering our investments did not take place. Respectfully, this is just my opinion.
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Post by supercim1 on Jun 26, 2010 12:21:47 GMT -5
Folks, how do you know that Kelvin was not shown the evidence ? If I was shown, I would never say one word to make thousand others follow and question me day and night, would you ? You folks are too smart to know this.
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Post by bkscott on Jun 26, 2010 12:50:05 GMT -5
Goodolboy
It may be quite possible the Peter Mahue is AH's backup if something unexpected happens. I would think Bob would trust him over anybody. Just a thought
BKscott
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Post by bkscott on Jun 26, 2010 13:10:28 GMT -5
This is about Trust funds that Peters father help orchestrate not about relationships.
Bkscott
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Post by portrush on Jun 26, 2010 13:41:11 GMT -5
What happens is Mr. Hodges had a stroke or a heart attack this weekend? Who would take his place? Who would have access to the evidence? But, YES it is disconcerting to me that at this stage of the game, sharing of evidence that could assist both "camps" in recovering our investments did not take place. Respectfully, this is just my opinion. To your first few questions; I would say James Kostas and Donald Ricketts. To the notion of not sharing; even Kevin said they are working on two different initiatives that stand to benefit the shareholders if/when completed. Sounds to me like Kevin has all he needs to do his job and vice-versa. If they're not making an issue of it, why should we? pr
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