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Post by soonerlew on Jul 12, 2010 17:27:58 GMT -5
zeppos DIAMOND MINER Re: Other gossip, etc. 7/12/10 « Reply #27 Today at 5:17pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well that post from Leowanta got me surfing the web looking for info on paid bashers. I stumbled upon Judd Bagley's blog on stock manipulation. antisocialmedia.net/lecture-on-ab....k-manipulators/I've just finished listening to his 1 hour lecture on "abuse of social media by stock manipulators" he held at the University of Texas. Wow, this guy went to battle with the crooks and exposed them. His presentation of legal and illegal shorting is so well done that it is understandable for everyone. As a sidenote, alot of his information about shorting he got from an interview with Patrick Byrne. I highly recommend listening to his lecture, I've enjoyed every minute of it. millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=32619&page=2
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Post by NobleForce2 on Jul 12, 2010 17:28:13 GMT -5
Another way to put pressure on would be to trade again, right? If we're ns'd so much, they'd hate to have to cover on the open market...if Tyler would get into gear and get us a working business going. No?
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Post by straighttalk on Jul 12, 2010 20:35:24 GMT -5
Another way to put pressure on would be to trade again, right? If we're ns'd so much, they'd hate to have to cover on the open market...if Tyler would get into gear and get us a working business going. No? Nobleforce2, there are no shares to cover.. all have been paid for... thus the trusts....
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Post by NobleForce2 on Jul 12, 2010 21:55:23 GMT -5
Another way to put pressure on would be to trade again, right? If we're ns'd so much, they'd hate to have to cover on the open market...if Tyler would get into gear and get us a working business going. No? Nobleforce2, there are no shares to cover.. all have been paid for... thus the trusts.... Good point. lol. This puts more questions in my head. If Al's allegations are true, we have to be paid if we ever hope to see anything out of our certed shares...ever. Our shares can't be used in any 'new' cmkx. So, we hope that Al is correct first of all. Then, we hope he wins. OR, (if he loses) we hope he lost because he was way off about our shares being covered so that we can possibly use them to trade again. Is that right? What if he loses, but the SEC knew the shares were covered? They couldn't let those shares trade again. Those that paid for immunity would HAVE TO squeal, right? If not, they'd have to cover again at some point. What about the claims sold to the Chinese? Why doesn't Tyler know anything about this, or was UC still in charge during this? This money is supposed to be held in a trust as well. My head hurts. Too many questions. Go AL!
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Post by deltadon30228 on Jul 12, 2010 21:56:08 GMT -5
All is going as planned, we will be vindicated and the public won't know a thing about it.
Al must "Speak no Evil" because in the end, MR. PUBLIC has to 'Hear no Evil" and "See no Evil".
We will see confusion, negative talk of AL and much, much more in the days, weeks and maybe months ahead, as this is how it must be. Don't let it get you down or flustered.
I'm sticking to my guess on the time line.
Remember it's not about "IF" it's about "WHEN".
Don, IMHO!
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Post by dyamondhead on Jul 13, 2010 1:15:39 GMT -5
All is going as planned, we will be vindicated and the public won't know a thing about it. Al must "Speak no Evil" because in the end, MR. PUBLIC has to 'Hear no Evil" and "See no Evil". We will see confusion, negative talk of AL and much, much more in the days, weeks and maybe months ahead, as this is how it must be. Don't let it get you down or flustered. I'm sticking to my guess on the time line. Remember it's not about "IF" it's about "WHEN". Don, IMHO! You may have guessed right, and I hope you have done, but that isn't the same thing as knowing what you're talking about. Nothing justifies vilifying anyone who considers other possibilities. Dyamondhead
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Post by 3bid on Jul 13, 2010 7:13:53 GMT -5
By: oreodiamonds 13 Jul 2010, 01:11 AM EDT Msg. 946590 of 946596 (Reply to 946449 by leowanta) Leo since Hodges filed his rebuttal on 7-09-10 I believe you owe Varson an apology! IMHO ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=946590****************** By: leowanta 12 Jul 2010, 01:28 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 946449 of 946596 Varnson says Hodges has responded to the MTD...not true!
Pacer doesn't show any response...Hodges e-filed it...or faxed it ...then the Clerk gets it before the Judge gets it...the Clerk file marks it; enters it into the docket before sending the pleading to Judge Selna........i do not know why Varnson misleads folks, i do believe he has a vested interest in cmkxers not getting paid.
here is what he stated on pb29>>>>>>>>>>>>
varnson God of Diamonds Joined: May 2005 Gender: Male Posts: 539 Re: Updated Daily!! RUMORS ....Believe em' or NOT « Reply #70 Today at 10:37am » ---------------------------------------------------------------------- AH has already responed to the dismissal with a portion of his evidense and now the judge decides if the evidense is strong enough to warrant a trial or if the evidense is weak he dismisses and its over as far as Fed court goes.
However we don't find out until Aug 2, 2010 so we have a bit of a wait.
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ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=946449
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Post by Ed Jagacki on Jul 13, 2010 7:46:44 GMT -5
I think you'll find that LEOWANTA does not apologize.
She is wrong virtually every time she opens her moth... and then quietly slips away until later to come back and speak more gibberish.
That's what I've seen over the years...
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Post by 3bid on Jul 13, 2010 8:04:36 GMT -5
She also makes demands that her posts c/p here be deleted. In my post above, a c/p from RB, notice that I reduced the brightness of her words, appropriately. In a compromising way, I half complied with her wishes.
-3bid
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 13, 2010 14:25:14 GMT -5
evenup Diamond Finder and Miner Re: Chatter Box 7/13/10 « Reply #1 Today at 11:11am »
Hearing deli stops selling at 5:00pm today.
evenup
Correction...Deli stopped selling 5:00pm yesterday.
That info came from a buyer yesterday who talked to Deli and that is what he was told by Deli....unless deli directly tells different people different things.
lt.kk Diamond Finder and Miner
IMO and from what I have heard from different sources his selling does not effect us in any way. Lt.KK
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Post by Display Name on Jul 13, 2010 14:37:03 GMT -5
lt.kk Diamond Finder and MinerIMO and from what I have heard from different sources his selling does not effect us in any way. Lt.KK Considering we were on the edge of getting paid 6 months ago now, it probably doesn't
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 13, 2010 14:59:50 GMT -5
By: oil.ipo 13 Jul 2010, 10:34 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 946631 of 946703 (Reply to 946395 by oil.ipo) Jump to msg. # I see 'OZ' (rumor) has SPOKEN again. Good luck with that one.-
Seriously though if anything one can generally see that the focus is on EVIDENCE, PRECEDENT i.e., historical, analogous cases in Hodges's answers. The limited and specific scope of the Bivens, with huge referenced damages is what made Hodges such a smart guy here, and why this will succeed in the US legal system, unless, unless of course, some other arrangement (cough, cough) has been laid out, in order to get this 'thing' thrown out of court. The groundwork now however being legally documented, certainly does not match that sort of an agenda, now does it? Something must occur in order to make this court case go away, or be dropped against defendants. General Hodges is too methodical, strategic, and tactical by this most recent draft (if formally filed). As far as which court he filed in any clerk could have turned that around in an instant. Hodges aint no dummy, or that issue (court filing) would be frivolous in intent forget the lawsuit as an action of frivolous design. What shareholders are now left with is a ram's (head), HORN to HORN standoff. Play written or not. Those RAMS are banging legal heads, GOLD coins popping out of mouths and ears, and other orifices.
The coolest part about this is the ability to air shareholders plight (for plaintiffs side) with focus to culpability i.e., representation, and not trying to go so wide as to be 'Frivolous' in nature , complicate things by going after the entire FEDERAL AGENCIES /GOVERNMENT COMPLICIT, which theoretically ya cannot. Plaintiffs , i.e., shareholders of record coined 'similarly situated' are able to keep that lofty 3.87 tt damage number alive and well in their proceedings. Hodges did good. Ya go boy!~ It's about getting paid not winning the war. The war is being fought on so many fronts. It would appear, and even I am tired of thinking this... that it is now about getting paid?
AIMHO, Staged or not shareholders are seeing the leverage being applied in order to receive their payment.
Oil
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Post by cashisking on Jul 13, 2010 15:34:58 GMT -5
I do like the fact that we're not suing the SEC for damages, but remember that we are rather making a case for getting access to what is rightfully ours so to speak.
Big difference between the two.
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Post by cashisking on Jul 13, 2010 16:22:08 GMT -5
I do like the fact that we're not suing the SEC for damages, but remember that we are rather making a case for getting access to what is rightfully ours so to speak. Big difference between the two. Very, very, true cashisking. One thing that the mainstream see as the opposite as us suing the SEC for that amount. I hate it when people say that. By: oil.ipo 13 Jul 2010, 10:34 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 946631 of 946703 (Reply to 946395 by oil.ipo) Jump to msg. # I see 'OZ' (rumor) has SPOKEN again. Good luck with that one.- Seriously though if anything one can generally see that the focus is on EVIDENCE, PRECEDENT i.e., historical, analogous cases in Hodges's answers. The limited and specific scope of the Bivens, with huge referenced damages is what made Hodges such a smart guy here, and why this will succeed in the US legal system, unless, unless of course, some other arrangement (cough, cough) has been laid out, in order to get this 'thing' thrown out of court. The groundwork now however being legally documented, certainly does not match that sort of an agenda, now does it? Something must occur in order to make this court case go away, or be dropped against defendants. General Hodges is too methodical, strategic, and tactical by this most recent draft (if formally filed). As far as which court he filed in any clerk could have turned that around in an instant. Hodges aint no dummy, or that issue (court filing) would be frivolous in intent forget the lawsuit as an action of frivolous design. What shareholders are now left with is a ram's (head), HORN to HORN standoff. Play written or not. Those RAMS are banging legal heads, GOLD coins popping out of mouths and ears, and other orifices. The coolest part about this is the ability to air shareholders plight (for plaintiffs side) with focus to culpability i.e., representation, and not trying to go so wide as to be 'Frivolous' in nature , complicate things by going after the entire FEDERAL AGENCIES /GOVERNMENT COMPLICIT, which theoretically ya cannot. Plaintiffs , i.e., shareholders of record coined 'similarly situated' are able to keep that lofty 3.87 tt damage number alive and well in their proceedings. Hodges did good. Ya go boy!~ It's about getting paid not winning the war. The war is being fought on so many fronts. It would appear, and even I am tired of thinking this... that it is now about getting paid? AIMHO, Staged or not shareholders are seeing the leverage being applied in order to receive their payment. Oil And Oil, I just absolutely love your message, and I hope you are correct Sir. I pray, and pray, and pray you are right. There's no reason why the Judge should dismiss us based on the fact we are not suing for damages but trying to get access to what is ours if in fact it does exist. And if Hodges has the evidence and we still lose then obviously the Judge is paid off, imo.
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 13, 2010 16:25:11 GMT -5
Note To Self......................
Do Not remove any posts just because someone wants it. If they have removed themselves from membership here they shouldn't even be reading this board IMO.
When someone posts on another board, IMO, it gives me the right the copy, paste it to this board.
I would think anyone who posts would want their word to get out to ALL.
Just my humble opinion for what it is worth.
Oh yeah, keep making demands and I will start a pinned thread with nothing but that person's posts for all to read. After all it is not like everything is posted. It is pick and choose.
Sometimes it is best, IMO, to let sleeping dogs lie. And this is one that should be left to snooze. ;D
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