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Post by e362 on Apr 14, 2011 8:49:42 GMT -5
e362, You're being kind. It was demeaning. Essentially, "call me if you want to pat me on the back and BS. Otherwise, you're an ingrate." Mike So, what you're saying is that Dennis should welcome abusive ones to direct their abuse at him and Al?!? Ed So what your saying is because of a few abusive calls all 50k shareholders should be talked down to?
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Apr 14, 2011 8:51:30 GMT -5
e362, You're being kind. It was demeaning. Essentially, "call me if you want to pat me on the back and BS. Otherwise, you're an ingrate." Mike So, what you're saying is that Dennis should welcome abusive ones to direct their abuse at him and Al?!? Ed Ed, they knew what they were getting into when they started this mess...
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Post by 2018 on Apr 14, 2011 8:57:30 GMT -5
e362, You're being kind. It was demeaning. Essentially, "call me if you want to pat me on the back and BS. Otherwise, you're an ingrate." Mike So, what you're saying is that Dennis should welcome abusive ones to direct their abuse at him and Al?!? Ed How to respond to these or those phone calls is not the main issue here. yes its nice that Dennis lets us know that he tries to respond to shareholders that contact them. How he finds it fit to respond or not respond to certain phone calls is his decision. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUESTION: How exactly should shareholders formulate or ask questions, or reffer to bunch of stuff that Hodges gave to us in his updates? How exactly should a shareholder respond to our last update where we are left with: "Hodges cant get in touch with Maheu" "Maheu is in charge of releasing our money" "federal judge made decision in camera that Maheu has to release our money by end of 2010" "maheu team is paying millions a week because they violated judges decision" "our funds have been separated from all other funds, like wgf, etc" Maheu response to shareholders:" you are crazy, i am going to sue you". ~~~~~~ Now lets bring it up to today and Denis's update in essence: the other side is in charge of release of our moneys, and they may continue to delay it.. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ So if that is like that.. why did you guys bs us previously? What is the "respectfull" way to say.. "why are you bsing me?" How updates was that story that hodges cant get in touch with Maheu we were given in january 2010 , to leave us with that for now what ? 3 months? How accurate or made up was that whole scenario how Maheu team is in charge of our moneys, and how they are paying millions in fines a week.. Straight up question: Was there ever federal judge decision that maheu has to release our funds by end of 2010? Was Maheu team ever really in charge of releasing our money, because obviously that does not seam to be the case at all.. reading todays denis's address to shareholders. Did maheu team every pay 1 dollar in fines.. let alone millions a week.. as we were told.. in fines for not releasing our money... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ So thats the question, how exactly should one formulate 'respectfull" questions in regards the infromation we have been given from hodges in his updates.. when obviously all that one can conclude we are given bunch of "story lines"
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Post by Ed Jagacki on Apr 14, 2011 8:58:55 GMT -5
e362: I didn't feel like I was being talked down to.
John, You knew what YOU were getting into, as well... but I don't see you taking any abuse from anybody. Does that mean you are demeaning or talking down to others?
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Apr 14, 2011 9:11:32 GMT -5
e362: I didn't feel like I was being talked down to. John, You knew what YOU were getting into, as well... but I don't see you taking any abuse from anybody. Does that mean you are demeaning or talking down to others? You don't know my wife and you don't want to know her.. Anywaysssssss.. I didn't start this mess to take any abuse.. As far as talking down to others, welllllllllllllllll, you know my track record for getting banned from these boards... My Mother, God rest her soul, told me, if you have nothing nice to say to others, don't say anything at all . They opened the can of worms and now they are crying about it.. They should have used the worms for FISHING before they dried up... They should have stuck by their guns in the first place when he stated he wouldn't up-date the shareholders until he was done one way or the other..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2011 9:12:54 GMT -5
I'm going to have to agree with the crowd on this one. This letter was only put out to mitigate damages. In essence we were told that we are only shareholders and have no idea what is going on and just shut up, sit in a corner, stop bothering us and wait for it. We are not children. We had to take steps to the extreme to get a response. The lawyer seems to have done this. They are not concerned about how we feel. If they were concerned they would have put this update out a long time ago. Instead they let us stew, fight and die off waiting for some kind of explanation. Every time I go back and read more I realize how much we are being played. Well that era in the CMKX show is over. We WILL do what we have to to get transparency. If the bad guys are so concerned about being exposed then pay us and we will shut up and go away. The stage that we are at right now is due to the ones who think we will sit by and keep taking it. We are done. The time has passed for excuses. The lawyer will move forward and when the truth is reviled then the evidence discovered will fuel the AG's to re-examine this case and then the cat will be out of the bag and the bad guys WILL go down.
THE ONLY WAY TO NOW STOP THIS TRAIN OF TRUTH IS TO PAY US WHAT ARE ARE ENTITLED TO NOW.
I am tired of this game as I am sure we all are. The curtain MUST be removed.
Either S H I T or get off the pot!
D4E
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Post by pixie on Apr 14, 2011 9:13:05 GMT -5
Ines,
You are exactly right. Not everyone will admit it but EVERYONE has the same questions you do.
I've posted your questions to Dennis on Tramp's board to see if he will respond...
I'm with you, although I appreciated the communication from Dennis... it was basically to throw us a meatless bone.
They put the info out in Hodges' last update... the next communication from them should have been some type of followup or comment on at LEAST where we stand with PM holding up our funds and why he is calling us crazy.
Pixie
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Post by wolfbela on Apr 14, 2011 9:15:09 GMT -5
Here it is gang..
Just got off the phone with Mr. Fryar's assistant. Mr. Fryar has been in NYC taking depositions all week.. will be back tonight.. we will either talk late tonight or tomorrow..The man actually has other things to do.
I told them the shareholders are worried that someone is trying to run Fryar off the case and would like to know the contents of this Hodges' email. The assistant did not have a copy of it, but said that scenario didn't seem likely.
I told him I am the intermediary for a very frustrated group that is extremely anxious to engage Mr. Fryar and get answers. He acknowledged he has received my emails including a deposition list and most of the pablum we have been fed for years.
Folks, take a deep breath and relax.. all is well.. If you don't hear it from me, pay no attention to it.. I will not lie to you. You can take that to the bank.
Jerry WB
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Post by cheechman on Apr 14, 2011 9:20:14 GMT -5
Here it is gang.. Just got off the phone with Mr. Fryar's assistant. Mr. Fryar has been in NYC taking depositions all week.. will be back tonight.. we will either talk late tonight or tomorrow..The man actually has other things to do. I told them the shareholders are worried that someone is trying to run Fryar off the case and would like to know the contents of this Hodges' email. The assistant did not have a copy of it, but said that scenario didn't seem likely. I told him I am the intermediary for a very frustrated group that is extremely anxious to engage Mr. Fryar and get answers. He acknowledged he has received my emails including a deposition list and most of the pablum we have been fed for years. Folks, take a deep breath and relax.. all is well.. If you don't hear it from me, pay no attention to it.. I will not lie to you. You can take that to the bank. Jerry WB Thanks for the work and update. cheechman
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Post by 2018 on Apr 14, 2011 9:28:11 GMT -5
This is to Dennis and Hodges,
straight up and respectfull:
Its been a while, You left us with how Maheu is in charge of our moneys and the release of.
Will you respond, what happened with that? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Its been a while and nothing seems to be moving this mountain. People are asking questions, who really knows what is going on here.. at all... Does Hodges know at all what is going on? Or is it Maheu team that is in charge?
If Hodges actualy knows what is going on, why is it that every week we have guesswork from hodges plaintifs.. like whyatt and sheila.. that funds are coming that week.- and yes.. suposedly they are told that by hodges.
What is Maheu team doing, especially that we were told how they were in charge of releasing our moneys, fully in charge of releasing our moneys in last update.. so what are they doing to make this happen?
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Our official updates have no continuance.. at all.. so one really cant count on that info at all..
Our rumors.. and trickle down from plaintifs from hodges, dont have backbone either. They simply never happen.
So whats the plan that team Hodges and Maheu have here? Do we continue same way?
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Post by pixie on Apr 14, 2011 9:34:20 GMT -5
Posted this one as well.... it would be nice to get a real response.
Of course, I realize he might come back swinging and talking about knickers... etc.... ;D
Pixie
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Apr 14, 2011 9:36:22 GMT -5
It would be pretty crappy, if this Lawyer comes back with the only thing Hodges has is this Fed Law Suit with nothing to back it up with...
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Post by e362 on Apr 14, 2011 9:45:10 GMT -5
It would be pretty crappy, if this Lawyer comes back with the only thing Hodges has is this Fed Law Suit with nothing to back it up with... Agreed! But at least we will know the truth, which seems to be a rare commodity when dealing with the shareholders.
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Post by 2018 on Apr 14, 2011 9:48:35 GMT -5
Ines, You are exactly right. Not everyone will admit it but EVERYONE has the same questions you do. I've posted your questions to Dennis on Tramp's board to see if he will respond... I'm with you, although I appreciated the communication from Dennis... it was basically to throw us a meatless bone. They put the info out in Hodges' last update... the next communication from them should have been some type of followup or comment on at LEAST where we stand with PM holding up our funds and why he is calling us crazy. Pixie thanks pixie, its important to put it out, as oposed to get lost in .. sidetrack stuff .. as to how Denis answers this one or that one. imo Dennis will not answer those questions, its simply HOdges brew.. and he Hodges, should have follow up on his own update.. If that was the case of how our communication was handled, but it never was the case. When you go over our communication with HOdges or anybody else.. it was always ... put whatever out.. for the time being, and then dont bother until the next crisis of some sort.. until you have to respond with some new homemade brew of some sort.. Most shareholders are well aware .. how we are treated.. and what it really means.. that we are left with: " i cant get in touch with maheu team".. update for 3 months, so they dont bother to call HOdges office at all. That is exactly why many had enough.. and are considering putting up money for another lawyer.. Whatever the odds are for another lawyer.. in plus of minus.. shareholders willing to contribute is sure affirmation that they had enough of treat me like a dumbass zombie circle jerk.
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Post by groundfog on Apr 14, 2011 9:50:08 GMT -5
God bless the truthseekers, and have vengance on the liars. Good luck wolf!
I don't appreciate threats either to shareholders who want the truth. We sure have not gotten one lick of truth from the other effort.
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