Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Sept 6, 2016 7:59:08 GMT -5
And Harv adds his opinion, thoughts, conjecture.... YOUR PERSONAL CHOICE to read or skip over.
As JWLOB stated........ No One has ALL the answers.
SO... Remember to take all posted on the boards with a grain of salt.
harvscorvette
DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD
Sep 3, 2016 at 5:19pm legacy2001, Treadstone, and 13 more like this
Personally would like to answer these questions from the information I have hard copy and witnesses I know personally who saw including photos first hand.
It is also my personal belief, my moral compass leads me give you the truth. There are many on this board that will attempt to discredit what I write here, no matter how much they attempt to do so, it does not change the truth no matter how many different ways they like to spin it.
First question asked "Was there EVER any land in Saskatchewan supposedly owned by CMKX that had actual Kimberlite in it?"
On the James Cree Native Reservation, Emerson Koch brought his equipment to clear the targeted drill sites with the permission of the Native leaders. There are many kimberlite sites on this Native Reservation that were also drilled the size of the diamonds that came out surprised those including the geologists. There are even photos I have personally seen what came from the drill sites of kimberlite.
Yes the demand to see those photos, not going to happen. There are too many lives at stake here. A relative informed me he knew Emerson Koch personally. Actually while living here in the Philippines this relative was given my email address contacting me asking me if I ever heard of a company called on the stock market by CMKX. Having further asked my relative what he knew about CMKX without leading on that I held shares, he shared with me the findings of the drill site on James Cree Land, and that Emerson Koch was doing the clearing and drilling on that site. Also that Emerson Koch informed my relative to buy as many shares as he possibly could of CMKX. That is what my relative then went on to do. Then I revealed that I also had bought shares of CMKX.
YES THERE ARE KIMBERLITE SITES ON CMKX MINERAL CLAIMS THAT WERE DRILLED AND CORE SAMPLES COLLECTED AND PHOTOGRAPHED.
Second question, "Did any of those land claims supposedly owned by CMKM Diamonds actually EVER get sold?"
Yes some land claims were either sold to other junior mining exploration companies, and other mineral claim sites allowed to lapse.
Third series of questions, "And if those supposed land claims were false, but the naked Shorting of company stock was true -- Were there EVER any actual fines, penalties, settlements, etc. allotted or collected on the company's behalf for the "sophisticated criminal enterprise" and shareholders 'blown money'?"
1) CMKX would of NEVER EVER been naked shorted if there were no valuable claim sites. CMKX was the heaviest naked shorted company in the history of the stock market because the assay geologist reports were shared with the Canadian Government as well as the US Government leaked out to the bankers hedge funds etc. Hostile take over of CMKX was being attempted. If truth were told and revealed through Dr. Susan Trimbath report, CMKX was not naked shorted 2.25 Trillion shares, but in the reality of over 10 Trillion shares or more in NSS. CMKX was naked shorted because the mineral claims were that valuable.
2) Yes there were actual Fines Interest and Penalties collected, on behalf of the shareholders, placed into Trust Funds, waiting for the new banking system/green light to be released to the shareholders.
3) The proven Mineral Claims were transferred to New Corp, during the Sting, and the actual settlements paid out with all those who were present paid up for the amounts they had done wrong, to avoid prosecution, those funds were set aside FOR THE SHAREHOLDERS, not the company. The moment we pulled Certifications and faxed them in, registering them with the Transfer Agent, were were locked in for distribution of settlement funds for a appointed time.
4) The so called "sophisticated criminal enterprise" was not Urban or his family, they were discredited,made to look like criminals.
5) As for "shareholders 'blown money'?", when this saga ends with Notification, then ask yourselves was shareholders money blown?
Let me end this post with the following. Robert Hollenegg communicated late 2013 with me recounting a conversation he had with Steve Kirkpatrick about 2hours the court case in 2013. Robert stated that SK came out and stated the numbers of the price per share IN DOLLAR AMOUNTS, we were to receive. Those $$$ amounts concur with those who work closely with our Notification. IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, I trust Robert Hollenegg to be an honorable man and shareholder, that this was the conversation he had with SK sharing with me in writing.
We have a moral duty to uphold the truth.
The sooner the new banking system turns on, we as shareholders receive Notification, all these details who done what will be forgotten, and we all can move forward in a new chapter in ALL our lives.
All in my opinion
Harv
hermannmaier0
DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD
Post by hermannmaier0 on Sep 4, 2016 at 9:59am
"CMKX would of NEVER EVER been naked shorted if there were no valuable claim sites."
I appreciate your optimism, Harv. Thank you for that.
But, generally, that statement seems a stretch.
If I remember correctly, one strategy abused by Brokers has been to naked short start up companies that had little value so long as hype could be generated enough to sell into. And, that once a company of little value went BK, all of the open FTD/naked short positions sold within CEDE/DTCC would just get wiped off the books and the money made was not even reported to IRS.
So, naked shorting companies of little/no value was (probably still is) a common practice.
The system was set to allow, and conceal profits of, the brokers who naked shorted such companies.
goldengriff
DIAMOND MINER
Very true post, great understanding you have
However, that is just one side of the nss scam. They also used nss to push asset strong companies into bankruptcy so they could pick up the assets on the cheap via bk court.
Not saying I know that cmkx has/had assets because I don't
There is a great argument that cmkx was an asset strong company. There had to be an established pps value prior to BM having his "come to Jesus" meeting in Vegas. That would be the only legal way he could collect the funds from the bad guys BM would have to had undeniable proof that cmkx had assets totaling X which equated to the pps the bad guys paid or the bad guys would have told him to take a hike
If there were no assets then the bad guys would default to HermannmaierO post scenario
GG
As JWLOB stated........ No One has ALL the answers.
SO... Remember to take all posted on the boards with a grain of salt.
harvscorvette
DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD
Sep 3, 2016 at 5:19pm legacy2001, Treadstone, and 13 more like this
Personally would like to answer these questions from the information I have hard copy and witnesses I know personally who saw including photos first hand.
It is also my personal belief, my moral compass leads me give you the truth. There are many on this board that will attempt to discredit what I write here, no matter how much they attempt to do so, it does not change the truth no matter how many different ways they like to spin it.
First question asked "Was there EVER any land in Saskatchewan supposedly owned by CMKX that had actual Kimberlite in it?"
On the James Cree Native Reservation, Emerson Koch brought his equipment to clear the targeted drill sites with the permission of the Native leaders. There are many kimberlite sites on this Native Reservation that were also drilled the size of the diamonds that came out surprised those including the geologists. There are even photos I have personally seen what came from the drill sites of kimberlite.
Yes the demand to see those photos, not going to happen. There are too many lives at stake here. A relative informed me he knew Emerson Koch personally. Actually while living here in the Philippines this relative was given my email address contacting me asking me if I ever heard of a company called on the stock market by CMKX. Having further asked my relative what he knew about CMKX without leading on that I held shares, he shared with me the findings of the drill site on James Cree Land, and that Emerson Koch was doing the clearing and drilling on that site. Also that Emerson Koch informed my relative to buy as many shares as he possibly could of CMKX. That is what my relative then went on to do. Then I revealed that I also had bought shares of CMKX.
YES THERE ARE KIMBERLITE SITES ON CMKX MINERAL CLAIMS THAT WERE DRILLED AND CORE SAMPLES COLLECTED AND PHOTOGRAPHED.
Second question, "Did any of those land claims supposedly owned by CMKM Diamonds actually EVER get sold?"
Yes some land claims were either sold to other junior mining exploration companies, and other mineral claim sites allowed to lapse.
Third series of questions, "And if those supposed land claims were false, but the naked Shorting of company stock was true -- Were there EVER any actual fines, penalties, settlements, etc. allotted or collected on the company's behalf for the "sophisticated criminal enterprise" and shareholders 'blown money'?"
1) CMKX would of NEVER EVER been naked shorted if there were no valuable claim sites. CMKX was the heaviest naked shorted company in the history of the stock market because the assay geologist reports were shared with the Canadian Government as well as the US Government leaked out to the bankers hedge funds etc. Hostile take over of CMKX was being attempted. If truth were told and revealed through Dr. Susan Trimbath report, CMKX was not naked shorted 2.25 Trillion shares, but in the reality of over 10 Trillion shares or more in NSS. CMKX was naked shorted because the mineral claims were that valuable.
2) Yes there were actual Fines Interest and Penalties collected, on behalf of the shareholders, placed into Trust Funds, waiting for the new banking system/green light to be released to the shareholders.
3) The proven Mineral Claims were transferred to New Corp, during the Sting, and the actual settlements paid out with all those who were present paid up for the amounts they had done wrong, to avoid prosecution, those funds were set aside FOR THE SHAREHOLDERS, not the company. The moment we pulled Certifications and faxed them in, registering them with the Transfer Agent, were were locked in for distribution of settlement funds for a appointed time.
4) The so called "sophisticated criminal enterprise" was not Urban or his family, they were discredited,made to look like criminals.
5) As for "shareholders 'blown money'?", when this saga ends with Notification, then ask yourselves was shareholders money blown?
Let me end this post with the following. Robert Hollenegg communicated late 2013 with me recounting a conversation he had with Steve Kirkpatrick about 2hours the court case in 2013. Robert stated that SK came out and stated the numbers of the price per share IN DOLLAR AMOUNTS, we were to receive. Those $$$ amounts concur with those who work closely with our Notification. IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, I trust Robert Hollenegg to be an honorable man and shareholder, that this was the conversation he had with SK sharing with me in writing.
We have a moral duty to uphold the truth.
The sooner the new banking system turns on, we as shareholders receive Notification, all these details who done what will be forgotten, and we all can move forward in a new chapter in ALL our lives.
All in my opinion
Harv
hermannmaier0
DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD
Post by hermannmaier0 on Sep 4, 2016 at 9:59am
"CMKX would of NEVER EVER been naked shorted if there were no valuable claim sites."
I appreciate your optimism, Harv. Thank you for that.
But, generally, that statement seems a stretch.
If I remember correctly, one strategy abused by Brokers has been to naked short start up companies that had little value so long as hype could be generated enough to sell into. And, that once a company of little value went BK, all of the open FTD/naked short positions sold within CEDE/DTCC would just get wiped off the books and the money made was not even reported to IRS.
So, naked shorting companies of little/no value was (probably still is) a common practice.
The system was set to allow, and conceal profits of, the brokers who naked shorted such companies.
goldengriff
DIAMOND MINER
Very true post, great understanding you have
However, that is just one side of the nss scam. They also used nss to push asset strong companies into bankruptcy so they could pick up the assets on the cheap via bk court.
Not saying I know that cmkx has/had assets because I don't
There is a great argument that cmkx was an asset strong company. There had to be an established pps value prior to BM having his "come to Jesus" meeting in Vegas. That would be the only legal way he could collect the funds from the bad guys BM would have to had undeniable proof that cmkx had assets totaling X which equated to the pps the bad guys paid or the bad guys would have told him to take a hike
If there were no assets then the bad guys would default to HermannmaierO post scenario
GG