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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 10, 2012 16:08:44 GMT -5
By: oldepro 08 Aug 2012, 10:19 AM CDT Rating: Msg. 1116132 of 1116420 (Reply to 1116116 by newtopennies) New, I don't think competency is the problem here. Pages 3 and 4 are the problem. www.otcmarkets.com/financialReportViewer?symbol=BMCS&id=85637 IMO, we are in the same situation as BMCS. See you next year, or the year after, or the year after, if there is another continuance, or 2,3,5--- Two U S District Judges-Permanent injunctions(Pg 3). Also, BMCS has already settled with Wells Fargo, but cannot distribute the funds. CMKM cannot return to trading, the 'trustees' hands are tied, if they exist. Except for the upcoming Glisson Administrative Hearing, the SEC is done. We await the DOJ trail, which as far as we know is based on false evidence. IF, that is the case, the charges will be dropped and the DOJ will either walk away and the perps go free or they will file another superseding indictment. If that happens, add another 8-10 years and kiss your ROI goodbye. So, we can sit here and be spoon fed garbage, lies and empty promises. OR Demand a Congressional Investigation. Until this happens, we are all SOL, in more ways than one. California shareholders Senator Barbara Boxer has opened an investigation. It would really help if she knew others are concerned. I urge all shareholders to contact her office.http://www.boxer.senate.gov/en/contact/ Topic: Banking and Finance Subject CMKM Diamonds/SEC Let her know you are a shareholder and you are requesting a Congressional Investigation into the case This takes 5 MINUTES. After all this time, is it worth 5 minutes of your time to make this right? Her office may take action, if we take action. If we don't, we will get what we deserve. NOTHING!!!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 10, 2012 16:09:52 GMT -5
Re: Updated Daily.."RUMORS"....believe em' or not
briwadd God of Diamonds Re: ***Rumor Discussion Thread*** « Reply #95 Today at 6:21pm »
I spoke with a tier 2 recepient this afternoon. He stated that he was expecting word today or tomorrow. He stated that his people were attending a budget meeting with the white house and federal reserve this week.
He also stated that a gag order was put in place last Saturday.
Just passing info along.... I will likely be calling next week to find out what the most recent delay is..
Briwadd
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 10, 2012 16:10:31 GMT -5
briwadd God of Diamonds Re: ***Rumor Discussion Thread*** « Reply #89 Yesterday at 7:25pm » Since names are being thrown around, I thought I would bring up an oldie but a goodie, Lindell Bonney. There has been much discussion about Bonney since Hodges stated he was the paymaster. I have actually spoke with Bonney on a few occasions and honestly don't know what to make of him. Some people say he is a nut, but I simply can't believe that.. Here is an excerpt from a deposition regarding Bonney's involvement in another trust. "Bonney: Not as far as I know. I didn't handle it........ I was in U.S. Treasury chief councel's office when the FBI announced they had a pick up order for this guy you were dealing with out of New Mexico and that was that......" viewer.zoho.com/docs/kJd3ciAnyway, the point I am trying to make.... a nutjob doesn't get an audience with the US Treasury Chief Counsel. Briwadd
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 10, 2012 16:11:26 GMT -5
TY Sweetsp7........ dizardos Re: The Thorns of Asset Protection « Reply #289 Today at 10:07am » There has been a change in plans. The update of today will come out a bit later, but ultimately I think you will be pleased with the results even though the journey to get there has been less pleasant.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 11, 2012 0:41:43 GMT -5
ty seagull..... By: oldepro Re: What if Oldepro is right? « Result #21 Today at 10:29am » ----------------------------------------------------------- I'd like to chime in. The SEC never denied naked shorting existed. They tried to sweep it under the rug. I fear they are doing the same thing with us now. Rodger Ferguson was a Fed Governor. He was never on the Senate Banking Committee en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_W._Ferguson,_Jr. In 2005 Bill Frizzell took his evidence to Chief Counsel Steve Harris. pcaobus.org/About/Board/Pages/StevenBHarris.aspxFrom: jmartin@cmkxownersgroup.com Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 15:26:37 -0700Bill has called in about his meeting today with Senator Sarbanes office, and I wanted to at least let you know a few things that went on before he returns and brings you all up to date more thoroughly. The meeting took place at 2:30 eastern time, with Senator Sarbanes Chief Council Steve Harris. From what I understand, Mr. Harris is the director of the Senate Banking Committee. Also present was Senator Sarbanes Legislative aid Dean Shahinian. Judi Behrens a CMKX shareholder, who set up the meeting, was also present. The meeting was to be held tomorrow initially, but was bumped up to today due to business on the Hill. Bill scrambled to the airport in Dallas on short notice very early this morning and went on standby in order to catch an earlier flight. Fortunately he arrived a few hours before the appointment. Bill said that Mr. Harris asked very good questions, and was very knowledgeable about the issue. Mr. Harris knows there is a problem, and requested that Bill begin to funnel information to him. He also requested that we begin to involve the main stream media as much as possible. cmkxunofficial.proboards.com/inde....int&thread=1830Judy Beherns 'Optimistic' former CIA Agent set up the meeting Now, either Bill ignored the SBC or he fully cooperated. If he cooperated the SBC has all of his evidence. We need to know what they did with it. Combine that with the dirty tricks Leslie Hakala pulled during the May 2005, combined with all the other CMKM crap, a Congressional Hearing is in order. If we don't force the issue, there is a strong possibility we will be buried. I fully support Al Hodges. He told me 2 months ago, in person, this could very well end up in the Supreme Court. We have a U S Senator Barbara Boxer who has opened a case regarding the SEC and my Whistleblower complaint and CMKM Diamonds. I completely understand the frustration we all have with Washington, BUT to throw in the towel and say they won't do anything only strengthens the other side. This is an election year, anything goes. Maybe there is a Congressman or Senator or a candidate that desperately needs some press. And maybe it's your senator, but you do nothing. Can you live with that? I can't. Personally, I cannot imagine why any CMKM shareholder would oppose this action. Latteplease " I was told by a Congressman once, that even 10 emails on the same subject warrants their attention. Evidently, it is representative of a larger concern." Latte, you are 100% correct. Think about this. If we are successful, it's game over. Everything will be exposed. Like it should be. BTW, a while back, some shareholders filed a complaint against Al Hodges with the California State Bar. Well, now we are even, I filed one against Leslie Hakala 3 weeks ago. Edmund Burke "all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 11, 2012 15:41:04 GMT -5
By: oldepro 10 Aug 2012, 02:54 PM CDT Msg. 1116879 of 1117099 (Reply to 1116821 by rosencrantz2010) FINALLY you say something intelligent!!!!!! Oh how I have waited!!! This MUST mean we are close. Old Team, Land of the Bonafiedes!!!(yes,I know how it's spelled. Think about it). fbruhm.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=CMKX&action=display&thread=4016 COMPLETELY SEPARATED from "Young Team",(your words, not mine) "others similarly suited"!!!!! CMKI= Trump Card, pay on your way out. Have a nice life. Sterling was right along about Double short, double cover. The BIG money was reserved for those (bonafides) locked in the First Short. The first one's in line, in the room, were listed in the pr from 1/2003. I'm sure other groups were there to pay for the second short, but the first group had to really pony up. These people were unaware of the naked short, when they bought. And MANY bought at .0056 (interesting number. Don't you think?). So, the first and second shorts did major harm to this SMALL "Bonafiedes" Group. All others are similarly suited, including NSS electronic shares (mostly in IRA's), Deli and other Johnnie come lately's. What did Urban always keep to himself and Emerson? NPIRH, of course!!! By: oldepro 10 Aug 2012, 07:58 PM CDT Msg. 1116978 of 1117100 (Reply to 1116976 by pontiyak) Yak, I'm not saying Sterling was right. I never could understand his theory. I'm saying he used the correct phrase. There are two shorts in CMKM. The first was locked in before Jan 15 2003. The second began before the ink was dry. To get an idea of the first short, click my name and look at the chart in my profile. It's pretty simple really, but it was obscured until the SEC released Exhibit 17 to me under the FOIA. The true picture comes from Exhibit 17, the Koch Declaration and the original 14C. It's all there in black and white, for all the world to see.
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Post by JoeRockss on Aug 11, 2012 19:43:01 GMT -5
Just went over to proboards and posted the issue. For now, when any of the staff (and only the staff) wants to post something here, go into the thread and first unlock the thread. At this point it'll take you back onto the general board. Go back into the thread and post what you wish. Once you post you'll have to lock the thread again.
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Post by JoeRockss on Aug 11, 2012 20:08:11 GMT -5
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 11, 2012 21:35:34 GMT -5
johmond DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Dizardos « Thread Started Yesterday at 7:14pm »
I e-mailed Mr Oshins for a copy of the trust, his answer was "WHAT TRUST"..........do you have a name for this trust?
dizardos DIAMOND JEDI Re: Dizardos « Reply #1 Yesterday at 7:43pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Johmond,
As I have explained in one of my posts today I would definitely like to provide such information, but I will have to do considerable work and discuss this matter with numerous people before that is possible. I do not have all the answers yet myself. If I could I would spend the next two weeks on this, but I really have to attend to other matters that require priority currently even though CMKX ranks very high on my priority list.
In spite of that I am sure that that information will surface soon enough.
About Steve Oshins.....it is very plausible that he drafted the trust agreements or that he still has some copies or originals of the trust agreements, but this is not an absolute guarantee. This is not information provided to me in any way, but a most plausible assumption on my part.
Of course I wish I could be of more help at this time, but unfortunately that is not possible immediately or at least not on my own.
johmond DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Re: Dizardos « Reply #4 Yesterday at 8:18pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey you'll get a kick out of this, he just denied any knowledge of knowing a Robert Maheu ...... ;D
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 12, 2012 10:17:22 GMT -5
seagull Mini Mod Re: The Thorns of Asset Protection « Reply #421 Today at 9:30am »
First of all... IMO Dizardos needs to stop naming...
but... When someone provides information they believe to be true, others jump on him for proof! If I were Dizardos, I would stop for that reason if not for the most important reason of securing our funds. You know quite well that Dizardos cannot reveal his sources. That would be cutting the lines.
Yes I was all for posting the trustees in the beginning since we have waited so long with no real information that we can be sure of ...but... now I don't see it as a wize move.
harvscorvette DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Re: The Thorns of Asset Protection « Reply #422 Today at 9:56am » Give it time and many will see it was a wise move, IMO.
Harv
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 12, 2012 10:37:13 GMT -5
Regarding the Heller Ad......
SevenTenEleven Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:53:31 PM
CMKX is making it mainstream now. With what is going on with the market manipulators, it is just a matter of time that shareholders are compensated
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 12, 2012 10:50:55 GMT -5
richerob DIAMOND MINER IMO Al filed a suit against the Trustees in 2010 « Thread Started Today at 10:21am » Looking back at the comments made by Bob H regarding a court order that would force the release of funds by December 31, 2010 was most likely a closed lawsuit against the trustees per the following from Hodges on Jan 11, 2011: 5. Although CMKX payments were not originally part of the WGS, they were included by attachment earlier this year. However, be assured that CMKX moneys are not currently part of the WGS; I understand from a number of different sources that Global Intelligence of Las Vegas petitioned the US Supreme Court, in camera, just after Christmas to separate CMKX pay-outs from any association or attachment with the WGS. I understand further that the Court issued an Order for the Trustees to pay-out the moneys within 48 hours, which time expired on or before December 31, 2010. I have received further information that Global Intelligence has not effected said pay-outs, has been fined some $150,000,000 on or about January 4, 2011, and is presently incurring additional fines at the rate of $13,000,000 per week. I have not been successful in any of my attempts to secure explanation from Global Intelligence. My guess is because there is a Trust Protector(TP) added amongst trustees they (TP) have Veto power which can override the release of funds from the trustees. Also take note a TP can make loans with the trust. So in reading this paragraph from Al over and over again it does make Dizardos statements accurate when he says Peter Maheu is the trust protector. You can read more about Trust Protectors here: The Trust Protector has the ability to veto distributions to Beneficiaries. Before distributions are to occur the Trust Protector may want to investigate the financial stability of the Beneficiaries. For example, if the beneficiary is being sued, The Trust Protector may withhold distributions, or the Beneficiary is undergoing divorce proceedings, or the Beneficiary may be too young, is under duress, mentally incompetent, unable to manage, or otherwise unavailable. The Trust Protector can override/veto the Trustee and withhold distributions temporarily or permanently make other arrangements such as buy the assets necessary for the benefit of the Beneficiary (buy a house, a car, sign a rental agreement, but have the Trust own the assets, make loans or make other provisions. www.ultratrust.com/trust-protector.htmlI need to research how liability works with a TP in terms of not following their fiduciary duty. Will do some research.
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Post by JoeRockss on Aug 12, 2012 17:07:41 GMT -5
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 13, 2012 20:12:11 GMT -5
TY Bikinipro...... The Weekly Buzz 08/13 « Thread Started Today at 10:17am » mojobeanThe Chicago Plan......FULL RESERVE BANKING!!!!! « Thread Started Today at 10:39am » Here it is folks....plain as DAY!!!! Full-reserve banking is a theoretically conceivable banking practice in which all currency circulating in a financial system would be backed up by an asset that is generally considered to be a stable store of value, such as gold. This implies the existence of a government body (such as a central bank) that would convert currency to a more stable type of asset if requested to do so. It also implies that the resources available to the central bank (and commercial banks) would be sufficient to convert all currency if so required. IMF Paper Backs Full Reserve Banking! Mon, 13th Aug 2012 by Mira Tekelova (Positive Money)We’ve been in a state of mild shock since Saturday. We discovered one of the strongest advocates of full reserve banking in the institution where we would expect it least. The International Monetary Fund has released a paper “The Chicago Plan Revisited” that supports the proposals of Irving Fisher – those which are the basis for Positive Money’s proposals - using state of the art economic modelling. In their summary the authors Jaromir Benes and Michael Kumhof write: At the height of the Great Depression a number of leading U.S. economists advanced a proposal for monetary reform that became known as the Chicago Plan. It envisaged the separation of the monetary and credit functions of the banking system, by requiring 100% reserve backing for deposits. Irving Fisher (1936) claimed the following advantages for this plan: (1) Much better control of a major source of business cycle fluctuations, sudden increases and contractions of bank credit and of the supply of bank-created money. (2) Complete elimination of bank runs. (3) Dramatic reduction of the (net) public debt. (4) Dramatic reduction of private debt, as money creation no longer requires simultaneous debt creation. We study these claims by embedding a comprehensive and carefully calibrated model of the banking system in a DSGE model of the U.S. economy. We find support for all four of Fisher’s claims. Here are few extracts from the paper: We therefore conclude that Fisher’s (1936) claims regarding the Chicago Plan, as listed in the abstract of this paper, are validated by our model. The effectiveness of countercyclical policy would be further enhanced under the Chicago Plan relative to present monetary arrangements. ank runs can obviously be completely eliminated… It would lead to an instantaneous and large reduction in the levels of both government and private debt, because money creation no longer requires simultaneous debt creation… By validating these claims in a rigorous, microfounded model, we were able to establish that the advantages of the Chicago Plan go even beyond those identified by Fisher (1936)… One additional advantage is large steady state output gains due to the removal or reduction of multiple distortions, including interest rate risk spreads, distortionary taxes, and costly monitoring of macroeconomically unnecessary credit risks. Another advantage is the ability to drive steady state inflation to zero in an environment where liquidity traps do not exist… This ability to generate and live with zero steady state inflation is an important result, because it answers the somewhat confused claim of opponents of an exclusive government monopoly on money issuance, namely that such a monetary system would be highly inflationary. There is nothing in our theoretical framework to support this claim. And as discussed in Section II, there is very little in the monetary history of ancient societies and Western nations to support it either. The History of Monetary Thought in Section II is very interesting and certainly worth reading is the analysis of Government versus Private Control over Money Issuance (p 12). On the other hand, the historically and anthropologically correct state/institutional story for the origins of money is one of the arguments supporting the government issuance and control of money under the rule of law. In practice this has mainly taken the form of interest-free issuance of notes or coins, although it could equally take the form of electronic deposits. The historical debate concerning the nature and control of money is the subject of Zarlenga (2002), a masterful work that traces this debate back to ancient Mesopotamia, Greece and Rome. Like Graeber (2011), he shows that private issuance of money has repeatedly led to major societal problems throughout recorded history, due to usury associated with private debts. Zarlenga does not adopt the common but simplistic definition of usury as the charging of “excessive interest”, but rather as “taking something for nothing” through the calculated misuse of a nation’s money system for private gain. To summarize, the Great Depression was just the latest historical episode to suggest that privately controlled money creation has much more problematic consequences than government money creation. Many leading economists of the time were aware of this historical fact. They also clearly understood the specific problems of bank-based money creation, including the fact that high and potentially destabilizing debt levels become necessary just to create a sufficient money supply, and the fact that banks and their fickle optimism about business conditions effectively control broad monetary aggregates. The formulation of the Chicago Plan was the logical consequence of these insights. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Full PDF ......alot of reading but well worth it...... www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/wp/2012/wp12202.pdf
mhanzali Question: Has it changed over yet? BTW thanks for bringing that over THANKS Mark
mojobean You are welcome.....
According to many, the new banking system is in place, and has been for a while,,,this is media confirmation that YES,,,,we are going to have a new system.
All we are waiting for is the Announcements...
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Aug 14, 2012 14:31:23 GMT -5
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