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Post by Duc N Altum on May 31, 2014 8:08:04 GMT -5
Post #1
The title of this thread "Tic Ioc to the Petro Dollar" is in the same way where in order for this whole bigger picture of things..."Timing" is what is going to result in the success of this.
Now lets really look at what is REALLY going on here. Do not take OUR media at face value because we can not. The banks and others control our media and that is a fact. And Christine Lagarde was said in the past couple of weeks... to be lying to everybody on what her claims were that everything is going great and I even saw here on CNBC claiming such. Now we know... OR SHOULD KNOW.... that the United States is the top dog in the IMF control with 17% control of the current and only IMF right now and in second place is China with only 3% control and everyone else is less beyond that. SO the United States is in huge control of the IMF with a huge control over everyone else with 17% control and more than 3 times thee amount than China's position of second place in the IMF with only 3%. So we the United States control the dang thing right now and we know how trust worthy all can be when the United States controls the current system and the United States at the same time has so much to hide as well which also shows the wonderful truth we are told, lol. If the is a big secret that the United States is trying to hide and they control majority of the IMF then the world is controlled to what is for the surface picture so therefore as an old saying goes...." Kids will not do as you say, they will do what you do." So it is the action that is caught so therefore look at the action that is happening despite the surface picture mask and current control over not saying what really is.
I believe fully that this Petro dollar collapse in the works is going to be the silver bullet to killing this beast that has been untouchable and Jim Sinclair even says that to in a video I will post later in this threat where he makes the point that the Petro dollar is the everything on this planet, not exact words but listen to the time frame I have marked to listen to in the video which is only 3 minutes of that video. You will start the listen at minute 21:40 when you get there. Anyway the death of what Jim is talking about, is what I want to touch on in this thread and it is actually very exciting and I really do believe that the death of the Petro dollar will lead to triggering the derivative collapse and then to the reset and conclusion for us all, in my full belief. And from the very positive looks of it really, the next couple months could really spawn off to see the conclusion of everything happen for the system and main us with finally having our wait ended. Al Hodges has said many times, "it can happen at any minute, day," and so on and with what is really happening here folks I am very happy to see finally. I have never focused on a date but a time frame and I am really pumped about this upcoming time frame in the "Currency Wars" to where the rest of the world should really appear the winner to kill out the petro dollar with no problem.
Anyway, I want to get into a full bigger picture of connections of past events and also future things that are coming and you all put 2 and 2 together and you really see what is going on and you will see exactly the same exact elementary thing that all of what is being said about being ok is not the case as our media continues to hide and claim at the same time.
Now what is beyond exciting here is this, WE NEED A RESET and to me that means we need this RESET which to me I believe everything needs to be crashed out to force a reset which can bring us in a new financial system where all of the old garbage of the old system can be flushed out and away and a new system can shed out the ball and chain of the existing cancers of this current and or present financial system that is here at the date of May 2nd, 2014.
So do not look at the length of these posts.... just follow through and allow yourself to see the obvious of the pieces of the puzzle all put together and see exactly what is going on. This is so exciting and when you all allow yourselves to see this, you will not need any guru of today tell you anything other than what is exactly happening right this exact time and the things that are already in the works show the direction of what is coming and when seeing the direction of what is coming, we can then again, put 2 and 2 together and see the whole picture put together and see with the cause and effects, where this is heading and once again, I find this to be VERY EXCITING so allow yourselves to see these pieces or connections or dots to be connected and it really looks like the stage is being set to lead to Al Hodges so called "RESET."
I have never been one to ever put an exact time of when this whole CMKM saga was going to end because wrapping emotions up to see a date go past is not that welcoming. So I always have looked for things to happen in windows of time so that way I would never ride an emotional roller coaster and be let down. So with what is going on here....FOLKS REALLY PAY FULL ATTENTION AND UNDERSTAND THE ELEMENTARY POINTS OF CONNECTION THAT SPELL OUT A GOOD CHANCE THAT THINGS ARE REALLY COMING TO AN END. PAY ATTENTION TO THIS WHOLE POST, EACH WORD AND DO NOT SKIM BECAUSE YOU MIGHT MISS A KEY POINT AND UNDERSTANDING THAT RELATES TO THE COMPLETED PUZZLE AND SKIMMING MIGHT NOT HAVE THE PUZZLE EMPTY WITH A MISSING PIECE.
AND BY THE END OF THIS THREAD OF POSTS, AS THE WASHINGTON POST'S SLOGAN SAYS.... "IF YOU DO NOT GET IT, THEN YOU DO NOT GET IT." So if read this in entirety to catch as much of what I hope I can pull from my brain on all the obvious events going on in the financial system because NOTHING ELSE MATTERS TO OUR PAYMENT...NOT CMKM NEWS, NOR PAST THINGS OF "OUR TRUST MONEY IS IN A BANK SOMEWHERE IN A BANK WITH $1.2 TRILLION DOLLARS IN IT" OR WHATEVER.... The whole current financial system needs to be corrected AND REALLY SEE WHAT REAL ACTION ARE AND HAVE BEEN GOING ON IN THE RECENT TIME FRAME AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE THE FINAL STAGE IS BEING SET FOR ALL OF THIS TO FINALLY COME TO THE END RESULT OF A FINANCIAL RESET WHICH MEANS A NEW FINANCIAL SYSTEM TO WHERE OUR MONEY WILL BE FINALLY SAFE TO BE RELEASED.
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By: jay_adobe 05 Jul 2007, 12:13 PM EDT Msg. 571567 of 779307 (This msg. is a reply to 571558 by waterdog85.) Jump to msg. #
waterdog, presume that I am not in the know. I am merely a shareholder with an opinion who enjoys discussing potential outcomes. I do not know what your bank account will look like, but if I had that number of shares, I would expect to retire when the final bell rings. When will it happen? It's happening all around you right now. The cogs are turning, the resignations have and are happening, laws are changing, countries are realigning their economic systems, new leaders are being put in place, bad guys are being rounded up in record numbers, lights are shining where lights haven't shined before, NSS has been admitted and reforms are occurring, our funds are drawing interest prior to payout.....and on and on and on. When the master deems the atmosphere is properly conditioned, it will occur.
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 31, 2014 8:08:18 GMT -5
Post #2
Now I am going to be posting some things that I have posted many times in the past but just follow through because it all builds up to the points leading to the points of this whole Threads message of Timing and looks very much like that this is finally heading to the final chapter ending.
So it has been said that there is a derivative relation to CMKM, whether it is the fact that we have infinite leverage of the proof of a documented movement with the cert pull of proving the historic naked short and with that proof AND THOSE PAYING FOR THE COVERING OF THERE SHORT POSITIONS WITH OUR NAKED SHORT....THEY PROVED THAT THEY ADMITTED TO THEIR CRIME BECAUSE THEY WOULD NOT OF PAID THEIR COVER IF THEY DID NOT DO NAKED SHORT US IN THE FIRST PLACE.
So if they did cover which I fully believe they did, that is the caught proof which now brings in "INFINITE LEVERAGE" to threaten the needed corrections to fix what Bob Maheu and team wanted CORRECTED. So as we have seen now the derivatives were the core issue and reason of the 2008 financial crisis. And they have not ever been regulated before with many past attempts and nothing has been ever able to regulate the cash cow of the $ 1,400 Trillion ( 1.4 Quadrillion ) derivatives.
And there has been much to prove in the past that 85 to 90 percent of the derivatives are all garbage, bad, nothing of any tangibility to them and obviously since they created quadrillions of dollars on financial elite's off balanced sheets .... goes to show the lack of any regulations can allow something to snowball into what this derivative monster called derivatives has made.
So once the financial crisis happened at the end of 2008, in the beginning of 2009 the Federal Reserve all of the sudden intentionally lowered the interest rates below 3% around the 2.49% through the 2.75% range.... putting the derivatives monster asleep. So basically right now there looks to be no concern of a thing called derivatives or any concern of them right now at the present time.
But if our economy gets better OR WORSE... LIKE ANOTHER FINANCIAL CRISIS HITS.... THE FEDERAL RESERVE CAN NOT HOLD DOWN THE INTEREST RATES ANY MORE AND THEN THE DERIVATIVES MONSTER IS COMING ALIVE AND IT'S $ 1,400 TRILLION ( $1.4 QUADRILLION ) IS GOING TO COME CRASHING DOWN ON OUR WESTERN FINANCIAL SYSTEM SINCE WE THE UNITED STATES ARE THE MAIN MANIPULATORS OF CREATING MAJORITY OF THIS MESS IN DERIVATIVES HERE IN THE WESTERN WORLD. ANd since most of the financial world is already invested into the U.S economy, they too are going to experience a financial ripple effect to their countries as well. SO the whole globe would feel this derivative crash if there were a crisis that started and then that would cause the interest rates to go up and then that would awaken the derivatives $1.4 Quadrillion monster to come crashing down.
And look at what Mexican Billionaire Hugo Salinas Price said in late 2013 about interest rates and derivatives---->
-Mexican Billionaire Hugo Salinas Price: "I think we are going to see a series of bankruptcies. I think the rise in interest rates is the fatal sign which is going to ignite a derivatives crisis. This is going to bring down the derivatives system (and the financial system).
So what did Al Hodges say? Well first he said "WE WON".... which I fully agree! But most importantly he said RESET and then he said currencies would be backed and so on.
But what would cause or lead to Al Hodges' reset? What did Jay say our saga would end with? --->
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From: Jay Adobe Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:06 Subject: Re: Fwd: Edwards' Penalty To: Scott
> Scott, My thoughts are no longer needed. Just re-read my old posts.If nothing else, they are spoken too soon. We are where > we are, and soon enough we will have finally arrived. The > astonishment is yet to come, but this is a good start. It'll end > with derivatives' finality. Enjoy your day. Hang in there as the > script unfolds all around us and countries continue the re- > alignment. 'Tis a wonderful day to be a shareholder. IMO.
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So what did Jay claim would be our ending? "The derivative finality."
And what did Mexican Billionaire Hugo Salinas Price say again about the derivatives in late 2013? "the rise in interest rates is the fatal sign which is going to ignite a derivatives crisis. This is going to bring down the derivatives system (and the financial system)."
So once again, what did I mention above about the Federal Reserve holding down our interest rates since the 2008 financial crisis of 2008? "If our financial system gets better or worse ( if a financial crisis/crash happens ) then the Federal Reserve CAN NOT HOLD DOWN THE INTEREST RATES ANYMORE" AND THEN as Mexican Billionaire Hugo Salinas Price said, in a nut shell " the derivative crisis will be ignited and this is going to bring down the derivatives system and the financial system" .... and what is Al Hodges saying we are waiting on?......... "RESET." What could possibly lead to an excuse for the financial system HAVING TO PUSH A RESET BUTTON? Well it obviously has to be something pretty major and major enough to prevent the whole global financial system from going down the toilet all at once, with no return.
So obviously when Jay said, "It'll end in the derivative finality" and understanding the severity of the derivative size and issue of it, obviously those that allow and have the control of the financial system... will even have to save their butts and hit the "RESET" button that Al Hodges has spoken of.
And take notice to the ending of Jay's email again as he finishes off with saying---> "Hang in there as the script unfolds all around us and countries continue the re-alignment. 'Tis a wonderful day to be a shareholder. IMO."
So I am ending this post with the understanding of the size of the derivatives and what will mostly likely cause all of this to happen and the pieces of who said what and how common sense speaks loudly if folks allow themselves to use it.... shows some strong pieces of connection and the paragraph above with the ending of Jay's email with he talking about "the re-alignment of countries." Yeah I know we have seen that before BUT this email was one of the last pieces of communication by Jay Adobe and when he started off by saying "HANG IN THERE" tells us that he knew this was going to take longer for it all to fall into place for the countries to start re-aligning. Anyway, I will post on that in one of the next posts of this thread. But wanted to bring that up now for one of the main points that has a huge piece of thought to this thread's message.
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 31, 2014 8:09:52 GMT -5
Post#3I was once going to do a post titled "Canada's land and the Pecking order" which I never got around to it but since this thought of common sense does fit this threads message... I will do a minor understanding of what that post's of thought would have been. Canada's land and the PECKING ORDER. If Canada has this said richest land in the world OR Urban Casavant spent over 19 years acquiring to get these claims in Saskatchewan Canada that is said to have the richest land in Post # 3 the world.... would that be something that would have STRONG interest to the rest of the World? If this land has ENERGY, that is very important to all nations because they have to supply the overhead of energy to their populations. But before I begin further... if anyone is saying... "Duc, we do not have any land, we lost it all because CMKM is an empty shell. Well I agree CMKM is an empty shell and it is beyond smart for it to be at this point but for Noah's board here is the link titled Focus on the word "CONTROL," claims are fine imo So IF WE CONTROL ALL THE MAIN CLAIMS of the richest said land in the world and it has endless amounts of oil.... and Jay said we have 6 times more oil reserves than Saudi Arabia, and we know that Canada is loaded with uranium and is said to be the largest place in the world to supply that and we know claims do not stop at province boarders and so on. Diamonds and all else that this untapped land most likely has, this is what countries want and have gone to war over in history's past. So anyway, We have Canada and it is their land so they would be #1 on the pecking order list. And then there is Urban Casavant who was said to be half Cree and his wife was said to be Cree as well... acquire the rights to these claims for quiet some time. Then all of the sudden comes this Bob Maheu who attaches himself to this and was a powerful person obviously and has major power and connections through the government and globally. The Chinese loved Bob Maheu it was said in the past. Anyway, so now MOST LIKELY Bob Maheu entering the picture and he being the #1 patriot loving his country, most likely created a bridge with Urban Casavant to have the United States falling into second place in this pecking order. OR Bob Maheu and Team HAVE SECOND PLACE PECKING ORDER CONTROL to where Bob Maheu and Team could do things in the benefit for the United States as a country when he wanted it to be such. So Bob Maheu and Team could of locked in 2nd place in the pecking order with allowing other countries to get their pieces of this said richest land in the world and at the same time if you supply the needs of other countries and you are the provider to these countries... then you obviously are growing your alliance stronger to where they do not want to bite the hand that feeds them, most likely. So as we do know, or should know, the Chinese have been up on our land at least since 2005. And a person I know who lives up there says the Chinese/mining related are everywhere , in his terms. So as I posted over on millionaires a week or so ago---> millionaires.proboards.com/post/730919) I spoke of a Chinese woman who was a shareholder who was many singing on a mic in pal talk back in 2007. She told a shareholder that her family were the Chinese geologists that were up on OUR land and they told her that our land was worth $ 1.4 quadrillion ( $ 1,400 Trillion ) in value. And yes that is the same exact value as the derivative mess that is not real value but the current fiat financial system gives the derivatives value to those derivatives that really less in value than garbage in a can. And $ 1.4 quadrillion is 25 times the size of the global economy with a global GDP of $61.5 trillion. So the derivatives is the garbage that needs to be flushed out and IF YOU HAVE A REAL VALUE OF $1.4 QUADRILLION IN OIL, URANIUM, DIAMONDS, RARE EARTH MINERALS AND ALL ELSE..... WOULDN'T THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD ATTRACT ALL NATIONS ON THIS GLOBE? SOUNDS LIKE IF YOU HAVE VALUE THAT IS 25 TIMES THE SIZE OF THE WHOLE GLOBAL ECONOMY AND EVERYONE WOULD MOST LIKELY WANT A PIECE OF, SEEMS THAT BOB MAHEU AND HIS TEAM WOULD BE IN A FAVORABLE POSITION BEING #2 ON THE PECKING ORDER LIST. Also keep in mind the problem with the said value of this land if it were worth $1.4 Quadrillion in real money.... and then you have a whole other thing in the derivatives world where all of that or majority of that is worthless BUT the derivative worthless side is weighing in on the real land value $1.4 quadrillion.... what would that do to a global economy that acknowledges both in existence at the same time? The derivatives being - 25 times the size of the global economy and then there is a + $1.4 quadrillion of our real land value.... that would only balance out our global financial system to level zero. Instead if you set everything up and allow the derivatives to get flushed out at its appropriate time.... then globally the - 1.4 quadrillion gets flushed out with a crash and RESET... then if after our land value comes into play with it's + 1.4 quadrillion.... then the global financial system went from being in the basement - 25 levels then a reset brings it up to ground zero and the + 1.4 quadrillion of our land value comes into play and brings us up to + 1.4 quadrillion which is the positive 25 times the global economy mark. Which means this all went 50 levels from being -25 in the hole and up to +25 in the positive. So it seems that getting rid of the derivative mess and also having the derivative rules and regulations in place so that the derivatives could never get out of control and weigh against the real money of a +25 times the size of the global economy. SO THEREFORE, IF CANANDA IS NUMBER ONE ON THE PECKING ORDER LIST, AND LETS SAY BOB MAHEU'S TEAM IS NUMBER 2 ON THE PEAKING ORDER LIST, THE LAST THING THAT CANADA WOULD WANT TO DO IS GO AGAINST BOB MAHEU'S TEAM BECAUSE IF BOB MAHEU'S OBJECTIVE CAN WIPE OUT THE DERIVATIVE MESS AND GIVE REAL AND TRUE VALUE TO THIS LAND WITHOUT HAVING THE USELESS DERIVATIVES CO-EXISTING LIKE NAKED SHORTED SHARES IN A STOCK AND BRINGING DOWN THE GLOBAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM BY 50%..... THEN CANADA WOULD MOST LIKELY FAVOR BOB MAHEU'S MOVEMENT TO ALLOW AND RESPECT THE DIRECTION AND CONTROL OF THOSE AT THE NUMBER 2 SPOT IN THE PECKING ORDER. AND ALSO IF THE UNITED STATES DID NOT WANT TO GO ALONG WITH BOB MAHEU'S CLEAN UP OF THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM.... THEN BOB MAHEU COULD OF TOLD THE UNITED STATES CONTROLLERS...." FINE IF YOU WILL NOT FOLLOW OR DO WHAT I WANT.... I WILL GIVE THIS "RICHEST LAND IN THE WORLD" TO CHINA AND ALLOW THEM TO BE #2 ON THE PECKING ORDER LIST AND THEN WE THE UNITED STATES WILL BE UNDER THEIR CONTROL AND PRICES AND WE CAN NOT BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS SO OK UNITED STATES... I WILL GIVE ALL OF THE CONTROL OF THE RICHEST LAND IN THE WORLD WITH ALL OF THIS ENERGY TO THEM." Yeah sure, I bet the United States would not want that for one second and therefore granting Bob Maheu full control over whatever he needed to do whatever he wanted to do in making this work as the #1 patriot of the United States would make it work and his track record proves his heart and his success. So with having this control of the richest land in the world that feeds what every nation on this planet needs.... puts Bob Maheu's Team in a very unique situation where they could most likely get what ever they want from other countries if THE TEAM WANTED HELP OR ANY ASSITANCE WITH ANYTHING. And that is what the next post, post #4 is going to be the topic of. _______________________________________________ Anyway on another note here is a piece of thought with Jay commenting on a person's post with Maheu and 1 Chinese connection---> -------------------------------- By: dorealicious 13 Jun 2006, 11:02 PM EDT Msg. 297715 of 780317 Jump to msg. # INTERESTING ABOUT MAHEU
Someone highlighted Maheu's bio on Global Intelligence and, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember seeing Beijing Guoan Advertising on there before? This is huge. Beijing Guoan is a subsidiary of CITIC Guoan. CITIC Guaon is a division of CITIC, a NINETY BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY formed by Deng Xiaoping and probably among the 5 most influential companies in China. CITIC Guoan is their communications arm.
Interesting that Maheu lists them among his clients, eh? Them and the CIA. Hmmm! globalintelligence.net/aboutus.html By: jay_adobe 14 Jun 2006, 01:25 PM EDT Msg. 298214 of 780317 (This msg. is a reply to 297715 by dorealicious.) Jump to msg. # dorea, Glad to see you coming around and providing positive information without attacks. Now link what you have found to officers of other entities, clubs, and associations where connections may have been made and continue to exist. It is nice to see you channeling your energy to the positive.__________________________________ And on another note, could it be possible that what is going on with China and all other countries over there that seem to be starting their own separate financial system..... could this all be part of the so called script or added to..... to add towards needed leverage to see this through? Here is a post by Jay speaking of multiple "script writers----> By: jay_adobe 05 Jul 2007, 11:41 AM EDT Msg. 571539 of 779307 (This msg. is a reply to 571531 by stockseekerok.) Jump to msg. # stockseekerok, If arrests were the issue of the day, that day would have occurred long, long ago and under different circumstances. Arrests will surely occur, but not to whom I've referred. Again, take time in your day to thank Messrs C and M, for you would not have been this solidly entrenched had it not been for sheer brilliance one someone's part. All bonafied shareholders are beholden to a handful of script writers and master conditioners. Many just don't see it yet. Hang in there and remain steadfast. all imo. PS, Very nice and professionally accurate readings and call on GBDX a few days ago. Very professional. Enjoy your day. ------------------------ So the reason why I bring this up IS.... with this pecking order of most likely having control of this land..... could the Team sell or give a deal to China or anyone else if something were needed? I will post more about in post #4..... the whole far eastern financial system that is forming with China and Russia and so on. So with this thought of lets say we needed China to do extra work with creating leverage with trying to kill the petro dollar if they started to create a whole separate system beyond the current controlled IMF and the current global controlled fiat system.... which they are starting to and once again that will be in the next post.... but could CMKM of given China some extra claims or whomever to help start this movement of separating from the U.S petro dollar? Here is an old post that I found in an old Bluediamond post and it speaks the rumor of China getting some of our oil and uranium claims which speaks to the point of leverage I am making with this peaking order power that we would have if the Team chose to do so if you are said to own in example of the said $1.4 quadrillion as the Asian lady shareholder claimed her family that were the Chinese geologists on our land said to her. Anyway here is a separate post that claims that CMKM and China did a deal before---> "Just got back from races" (CMKX/China Deal) Oct 27, 2005 at 4:19am Re: Just got back from Vegas« Reply #6 on Today at 8:25pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Floyd, Friday after the races My wife and I were checking in at the New Frontier and she was wearing her red Got CMKX? shirt she got from the races that day. A older Gentleman turned around and said yes I do! I then asked him some quick Q@A to confirm. He goes by Cautious one on paltalk he really blew us away said he is from Canada and has known UC since 1962. Re: Just got back from Vegas« Reply #9 on Today at 8:40pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John, Hey my sister is from Long Island she also has CMKX. Anyway he said IMO that the deal is done and it is with China for the mineral rights only for the potash and oilsands. He said they are not even thinking about the diamonds. _____________________ So based on what this post says.... The second poster claims "Cautious" who many of us heard in Pal Talk years ago.... the person in the first post said Cautious claimed to of known Urban since 1962. And the second poster said "HE" said IMO that the deal is done and it is with China for the mineral rights only for the potash and oilsands." So with this example.... could we of thrown some more claims at China or whomever to act out what is currently going on in the coming post #4? Just a thought and is possible IF YOU REALLY NEEDED TO BYPASS CONGRESS WHO WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME TO GET AWAY FROM THEIR ATTACHMENTS TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE....so keep that thought in mind as you read the next post.
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 31, 2014 8:12:03 GMT -5
Post #4Now I want to build off on thought with expanding on Bob Maheu's Team having infinite leverage of having the said richest land in the world that every country I would bet, love to have. So as said in post # 3 Bob Maheu's Team would have the leverage of the land and also the control of what he wanted done through the financial system clean up that he most likely wanted and as I agree or believe in thought with... having control of this land and he threatening to give to China or anyone else would scare the top U.S controllers not to give Bob Maheu what he wanted so I can see how this next post relates in thought that I posted in the sting thread a little time ago---> By: jay_adobe 09 Nov 2005, 01:20 PM EST Msg. 1217663 of 1308040 (This msg. is a reply to 1217634 by dcal.) Jump to msg. # dcal, You must think outside the realm of legality here. Consider, tongue in cheek, that one cannot naked short either, nor counterfeit dollar bills, nor counterfeit stocks and certificates, nor overdraw your checkbook, nor break the speed limit, nor sell two certs of the same share, nor embezzle, nor lie in the oval office, nor torture the enemy, and on and on and on. Rules can be broken to fit the needs of the situation, and especially the country when needed. Rules can also be signed through executive order today and not be made public until later. Things happen in our financial markets that are unfathomable to most of us upstanding citizens - but it does happen and sometimes we just have to see that it is happening and accept it as reality. And if a sting is occurring, all bets are off for rules and regulations, as now it falls into an entirely different set of rules. just my opinion, of course. -------------- From Sting thread ____________________________ So now if Bob Maheu's objective was granted the Sting powers for he and his Team to accomplish their objectives there is still the concern of having to over ride congress's ultimate powers that the U.S constitution gives them. They obviously have the power to create or make changes to our currency and also keep or gt rid of the Federal Reserve and a whole bunch of other things. But if Congress has loved the easy system they have where they only rely on THE PEOPLE'S votes to get them in their seats..... and then once they are in all they have to do is "speak out their politics to relate to the people" and they then get their money from the Federal Reserve. So who do you think the politicians really care about? Well it appears first that majority focus on themselves with power and the Federal Reserve and they getting all the money they need from the Fed. So if Congress did not and has not complied yet obviously with following through on the needs of this country and allowing the Federal Reserve to continue to do their thing then obviously another route would seem to be made to FORCE the congress to act in the appropriate direction despite their current moves or the lack their of. So just bringing in again the leverage of having the richest land in the world that is said to have tons of energy related parts to it like the said oil ( 6 times the oil reserves than Saudi- Jay Adobe ) The tons of Uranium that Canada is already known for being the top in the world and lets not forget how that can supply the nuclear power plants to someone like China who has a billion person population and who most likely needs to up keep maintaining the overhead of supplying their population's needs. And the examples can go on. So lets say again that our congress feels that " We the United States are the #1 economy and with the Federal Reserve having the ultimate control with their "Petro dollar agreement" that allows the Federal Reserve to have the demand on the currency on that they rule. The demand on a currency is everything to a currency and if the demand is not there or is lost then there is no life to that currency. So with the Petro agreement in 1971, IT FORCED THE WHOLE GLOBE TO BE DEPENDANT ON THE U.S DOLLAR WHERE ALL COUNTRIES HAD TO BUY THE US "PETRO" DOLLAR TO THEN BUY THE OIL ETC TO PURCHASE THEIR OIL. THAT AGREEMENT FORCE EVERYONE TO HAVE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE U.S DOLLAR WHICH DID WHAT?.... CREATED THE DEMAND AND NOT JUST ANY DEMAND... A GLOBAL DEMAND AND OIL IS NOT CHEAP SO THEREFORE A LOT OF DOLLARS WERE NEEDED FOR THIS DEMAND. THIS IS WHAT HAS HELD THE UNITED STATES TOGETHER ESPECIALLY UP TO THIS POINT IN THE FINANCIAL CRISIS BECAUSE ANY TIME THAT WE NEEDED TO PAY OUR BILLS... BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND OF THE U.S DOLLAR... HAS ALLOWED THE FEDERAL RESERVE TO PRINT UP ALL OF THE NEEDED MONEY TO KEEP US AFLOAT. AN EXAMPLE.... A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.. OBAMA NEEDED TO GET $1.2 TRILLION DOLLARS TO LAST OUR ECONOMY UNTIL MARCH 2015 AND HE GOT IT. IF WE DID NOT HAVE THE DEMAND FOR THE U.S (PETRO) DOLLAR GLOBALLY.... THERE WOULD OF BEEN NO CHANCE FOR Obama TO GET THAT $1.2 TRILLION DOLLARS TO KEEP US AFLOAT UNTIL MARCH 2015. ONCE AGAIN, SOON AS YOU KILL THE DEMAND FOR THE U.S DOLLAR THEN WE CAN'T PRINT DIDDLEY SQUAT OR AT LEAST TO THE MASSIVE LEVELS WE NEED TO MAINTAIN OURSELVES. IF WE LOSE THE DEMAND WATCH WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THE U.S (PETRO) FEDERAL RESERVE NOTE DOLLAR.... BYE BYE. So what could possibly help put Congress in it's place or force them to do what is right? Well if all the sudden there were a loss in demand in the U.S (petro) dollar where countries did not need it anymore.... should have the controllers of our financial system freak out. AND ON A SIDE NOTE... WHAT DID AL HODGES SAY WAS A HUGE ISSUE IN ONE OF HIS UPDATES? "THOSE ON CAPITAL HILL?" HHHHMMMM? SO COULD THERE BE SOMETHING IN THE MIST THAT COULD PLAY OUT AND BE A THREAT WITH ALL THAT IS GOING ON HERE? COULD WHAT I SAID AT THE BOTTOM OF POST #3 ABOUT BOB MAHEU'S TEAM.... COULD THEY HAVE GIVEN THESE MAIN COUNTRIES CLAIMS OF OUR LAND WITH THEIR VALUABLE MOVEMENT HERE ASSISTING IN HELPING TO KILL THE PETRO DOLLAR? ( just a thought and nothing more) ----> Back in November 2013 an article by the examiner put out an article titled 23 countries begin setting up swap lines to bypass dollar www.examiner.com/article/harbinger-23-countries-begin-setting-up-swap-lines-to-bypass-dollarsted . So since November a movement of 23 countries already started a movement to bypass the U.S Petro dollar. And it has grown ever since. ------------------------------------- And posted a post that gives more of links to show the effects of the dollars fall---> ______________________________ So with now the petro dollar being killed.... or the DEMAND of the currency being killed .... as any economist can agree on with full understanding.... you kill the demand of a currency and then that kills the currency. So with so many countries jumping on board with Russia and China to where it looks like a whole separate financial system is forming separate from ours... to where WE the United States control everything right now and especially owning 17% control of the current IMF and China being in second with only 3% and everyone else less than that..... does anyone think that the world is creating it's own separate financial system away from the U.S controlled global and current system? Oh what do you know..... look what came out on April 14th, 2014 an article titled "BRICS countries to set up their own IMF" rbth.com/business/2014/04/14/brics_countries_to_set_up_their_own_imf_35891.htmlHmmmm? Are all of these countries sick of the current IMF where the United States controls all... with their fiat garbage? Well here is the continuation of they thinking about it to having it ready to go by a certain date---> BRICS creating parallel Monetary Fund disillusioned with IMF and World Bank voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_05_01/BRICS-creating-parallel-Monetary-Fund-disillusioned-with-IMF-and-World-Bank-expert-0502/ ------------- Thanks to Jo on Noah's board, here are some points of that article---> point #1 Frustrated by the IMF and World Bank controversial policy, the BRICS nations go on creating the alternative financial supranational institutions for emerging economies. In recent years the IMF has discredited itself, becoming a completely politicized and "odd" structure, which supports interventionist "super state" ambitions of the EU and the US, stresses Patrick L Young, an expert in global financial markets, referring to the ongoing events in Ukraine.Point #2 It should be noted that the BRICS bloc of emerging economies is expecting all preparatory work for setting up its Development Bank to be done by July, 2014, according to Reuters. Political neutrality of the BRICS-Monetary Fund appears to become its unquestionable "competitive advantage." It will help the new structure to operate without fear or favor, deems the expert. Point #3 "What the IMF really needs," he stresses, "are strong technocrats as opposed to the spineless politicians who generally operate with (at the very least!) one eye on their next political position."
------------------------ So that last line shows again the point of what I started this post out with about politicians being focused on their objectives and not what they should be there to do. ANd once again, what did Al Hodges say again was a major problem?.... those on CAPITAL HILL. Well it sure looks like the rest of the world agrees with Al Hodges as they jump ship most likely to the new uncontrolled BRICS IMF. So a separate BRICS IMF is due in July 2014 and does anyone think that all of the countries in the current IMF who have their little tiny control against the United States' 17% control are going to jump ship and get away from the United States garbage? All of it? And do you think that in this new BRIC IMF that they are going to have anything to do with the useless Petro dollar? As the article I posted above from Nov 2013 with the 23 countries bypassing the U.S dollar with swaps.... those 23 countries obviously have an issue with the U.S petro dollar so I would bet that this BRIC IMF already has at least 23 nations that are going to be on board with this new and separate BRICS IMF. --------------------- And thanks to Jo for this one also on Noah's board---> Russia's rise threatens America's grip on global power www.nationmultimedia.com/opinion/Russias-rise-threatens-Americas-grip-on-global-pow-30231654.html main points of article--->
1)At the end of the day, the global conflict we are witnessing is all about the attempt to save the petrodollar. Failing to rein in Russia and China will result in the dumping of the US dollar both as the world's reserve currency of choice and as the so-called petrodollar.
2)The BRICS have made progress in forming international banking institutions to rival both the World Bank and the IMF. They have also agreed to explore further possibilities of using their own currencies to trade with each other.
3)China is now the world's largest trading nation and also the world's largest oil importer, surpassing the United States. It is operating yuan swaps with dozens of trading partners to promote the yuan as a currency of trade and other transactions. It also aims to create the "petroyuan", so that China would not need to convert its currency into dollars before purchasing oil. Once the yuan is internationalised, Beijing would be in a position to buy oil with its own currency.
4)Europe depends on Russia for about one-third of its energy consumption, a supply that would be threatened if Europe took up a hostile position against Russia over the Ukraine issue. Russia is now demanding that Ukraine come up with $2 billion to pay its gas bill and another $5-billion up front to ensure continued supply to Europe, which receives most of its natural gas through Ukraine's pipelines.
5)If the annual $1-trillion trade in Russia's energy is not transacted in US dollars, we will see the end of the petrodollar. Moreover, in May Russia and China will sign a major gas deal that will shake the world, as the transaction will also spurn the US dollar.
6)The growing challenge of these combined forces against petrodollar is threatening the US grip on global power, which comes with the reserve-currency status of the dollar. If there is less demand for the dollar, or if the dollar were to lose its reserve-currency status, the US will lose its monetary power and subsequently its political and military power, which so far have been financed simply by the free "printing" of more dollars.
7)The first country that would suffer if the petrodollar fell would be Saudi Arabia, which has acted as a pillar for the petrodollar in the Middle East.
________________________ By: jay_adobe 17 Feb 2008, 10:57 AM EST Msg. 665061 of 778290 (This msg. is a reply to 664953 by wow_cmkx_25.) Jump to msg. # wow, And we must continue to assist in keeping the lanes of flow of oil out of the ground to the refineries, and ultimately to the customer. To understand a "bourse", just exchange the word "exchange" for "bourse". It's about the same. Two big interrupters of 'potential flow from the ground to the port' are Iraq and Iran. All efforts at our disposal will and has been used to prevent the interuption of flow in Iraq. If Iran starts to play the international game with euros, then others will surely follow, thus realigning the countries into two distinct poles: those that support (or are supported) by the dollar, and those that don't. I do not believe we will see American boots on the territory of Iran any time in the not so distant future. imo ------------------------------- And I haven't even brought in this topic of The Chinese Yuan working on being the new global currency and all ready tons of countries jumping on board with buying that currency ----> Central banks' investment in yuan puts currency nearer reserve status www.scmp.com/business/banking-finance/article/1466621/central-banks-investment-yuan-puts-currency-nearer-reserve Points of this article-->
1)At least 40 central banks have invested in the yuan and several others are preparing to do so, putting the mainland currency on the path to reserve status even before full convertibility, Standard Chartered said.
2)Twenty-three countries have publicly declared their holdings in yuan......the real number of participating central banks could be far more than that.
3)Pihlman, who formerly worked at the International Monetary Fund advising central banks on asset-management issues, said at least 12 central banks had invested in yuan assets without declaring they had done so.
4)The [yuan] has effectively already become a de facto reserve currency
5)Pihlman said "a great number of central banks are in the process of adding [yuan] to their portfolios".
6)"The [yuan's] convertibility may be already there for central banks in a way that has got them comfortable to start investing in the currency," Pihlman said.
7)Among the 23 central banks known to have yuan holdings, 11 are from Asian markets with close trade links with mainland China: Australia, Hong Kong, Indonesia, Japan, South Korea, Macau, Malaysia, Nepal, Pakistan, Singapore and Thailand, according to public records from either central banks' own statements or central bankers' interviews with the press.
8)The rest are five from Europe - Austria, Belarus, Norway, France and Lithuania - and seven from South America or Africa - Bolivia, Chile, Ghana, Kenya, Nigeria, South Africa and Tanzania.By: jay_adobe 21 Sep 2007, 09:33 AM EDT Msg. 604972 of 778556 (This msg. is a reply to 604840 by ravenpeach1.) Jump to msg. # ravenpeach, All part of the realignment of countries, I believe. This one will be to our benefit, and as the dollar slides, some realignments will be to our detriment. Today will be an interesting day internationally.
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 31, 2014 8:13:47 GMT -5
post #5
Yeah all of thee above in post #4 is not helping weaken the petro dollar or kill it. Understand again, if there is no demand for a currency at all then it is dead. But if it is weak enough and we the United States can barely pay the interest on their own bills and the demand of the U.S Petro dollar globally was the whole reason that the United States has been able to survive up to this point..... then what would obviously happen if the Petro Dollar DEMAND was no more? Can you say financial crisis? And once again what would happen once again......what would be one thing that the Federal Reserve could not hold down anymore IF THE economy got better OR IF THERE WERE A FINANCIAL CRISIS? The INTEREST RATES!!!! And what did Mexican Billionaire Hugo Salinas Price say again? "I think we are going to see a series of bankruptcies. I think the rise in interest rates is the fatal sign which is going to ignite a derivatives crisis. This is going to bring down the derivatives system (and the financial system).
And once again what did Jay say was OUR finality?
From: Jay Adobe Date: Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:06 Subject: Re: Fwd: Edwards' Penalty To: Scott
> Scott, My thoughts are no longer needed. Just re-read my old posts.If nothing else, they are spoken too soon. We are where > we are, and soon enough we will have finally arrived.The > astonishment is yet to come, but this is a good start. It'll end > with derivatives' finality. Enjoy your day. Hang in there as the > script unfolds all around us and countries continue the re- > alignment. 'Tis a wonderful day to be a shareholder. IMO.
So obviously again because of the massive size of the derivatives that should crash out the rest of the garbage and what did Al Hodges say we are waiting for? "RESET." So it once again only makes sense that killing the petro dollar which makes the Federal Reserve HASBEEN so powerful with its controlled DEMAND since 1971.... is very exciting to see the BRICS IMF starting in July 2014 and all that Russia has done to really start the death shot to the Petro dollar and with all other countries that will walk away as the "OLD BEAST takes its final breath" ( goldengriff said that in a past post a some time ago with what I have in quotations so giving props to him on that saying.)
And what would be interesting to see is if these BRICS nations most likely would want to get out of fiat and they might start the BACKING OF THEIR CURRENCIES and maybe they couldn't being locked up in the 17% controlled (current) IMF. So once they get that going in July 2014, that might be what they do and all the countries that are listed with buying the Chinese Yuan might be all of the countries that join in doing so and I would bet other countries would join in doing so. So what would that mean to here in the Western financial system if the far Eastern financial system had their own separate financial system backed? Well since we the United States have most of our products saying "made in China" what would happen IF we were to continue to show up and ask China for their products with fiat currency? In this example of thought... The new Backed China would say, " yeah sure... oh wait... what is your currency's value again? Oh we are sorry, you probably have a better chance of going to the store and buying a Monopoly game and using that money because that might do you better than your worthless paper money.
So obviously if the rest of the world backed their currencies do you think our congress would just sit back and not use their constitutional powers and make the proper changes to the currency and all other needed changes like the Federal Reserve I know it was said back in 2008's financial crisis was leveraged 51:1 and last week in Max Keisers video he claimed the Federal Reserve was leveraged 90:1 now. So in a massive crisis, could an entity being that leveraged survive and so could congress get anymore support from the dead Federal Reserve? Well we know that the Federal Reserve is controlled right now by the U.S Treasury with it's branch called " "Exchange Stabilization Fund" so the Federal Reserve just maybe the sacrificial lamb since they created all of this mess, they could be designed to go down with this mess.
By: jay_adobe 18 Sep 2007, 02:48 PM EDT Msg. 604157 of 778559 (This msg. is a reply to 604154 by klonopin2mg.) Jump to msg. #
klon, Dollar will go down; inflation will go up; basic prices will go out of reach. Hang on for the ride while the FED tries to fix this problem with fiat currency. Countries will re-align.
By: jay_adobe 29 Nov 2007, 12:23 PM EST Msg. 627493 of 778290 (This msg. is a reply to 627485 by JAGGER.) Jump to msg. #
JAG, I am merely a shareholder with ideas and theories. I'm here simply for an exchange of discourse concerning ideas and topics of interest around some opinions I have gathered in discussions with others. Simple enough. We wait; patiently; steadfastly; confidently. Most of us are in limbo. Remember this is event driven, and the events, internationally, are becoming more and more profound to those who seek them. Today is a good day to be a shareholder, as is tomorrow. Enjoy your day. Be kind to your fellow shareholder, too.
By: jay_adobe 21 Mar 2006, 10:52 AM EST Msg. 166620 of 782187 (This msg. is a reply to 166600 by ÿinvalid_sender.) Jump to msg. #
chic, No. The dollar is backed by the faith in our government to levy and collect taxes; nothing more. Do some research.
By: jay_adobe 28 Sep 2007, 10:56 AM EDT Msg. 607759 of 778311 (This msg. is a reply to 607752 by diamonddigger.) Jump to msg. #
diamonddigger, You said "...update after update seems to bring out more and more garbage..." I couldn't agree with you more. In fact, I think I'll get off this computer and go enjoy some sunshine for the rest of the day. I might check in occasionally and see how far the dollar drops. Enjoy your weekend and try to find the good in all this. There is plenty for which to be thankful. Who am I? I am Jay Adobe, an internet poster on RB who shares opinions for discussion. That's who I am.
By: rosencrantz2010 19 Dec 2007, 09:33 AM EST Msg. 634876 of 778290 (This msg. is a reply to 634860 by jay_adobe.) Jump to msg. #
jay_adobe,
what is your operational definition of turmoil?
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By: jay_adobe 19 Dec 2007, 09:39 AM EST Msg. 634880 of 778290 (This msg. is a reply to 634876 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. #
rose, Unrest, chaos, amazing losses, resignations, amazing hirings, unbelieveable amounts of money spread to unlikely scenarios, realignment of countries, unbelieveable information that appears to be lop-sided or one-sided only......etc. imo only
By: jay_adobe 13 Aug 2007, 10:41 AM EDT Msg. 588478 of 778617 (This msg. is a reply to 588462 by nufced.) Jump to msg. #
nufced, I am not familiar with that line of thinking. Bouncing ball distraction, at most. Irrelevant, but it does keep some looking in that direction as things are happening in the other direction, doesn't it? I believe it will be revealed soon enough. Watch it all unfold, as it is happening all around you right now. Countries will re-align. This is bigger than you ever imagined. Watch it unfold. imo, of course. Enjoy your week.
By: jay_adobe 08 Oct 2007, 10:25 AM EDT Msg. 611419 of 778300 (This msg. is a reply to 611408 by tramp1950.) Jump to msg. #
tramp, Yes, it has begun. Banks will collapse. Countries will re-align. It'll all work out in the end though.
By: jay_adobe 23 Jun 2005, 09:41 AM EDT Msg. 1008285 of 1008405 (This msg. is a reply to 1008281 by elgumd.) Jump to msg. #
elgumd, It is supposed to be completed before then. Remember, though, that things aren't always as they seem and someone can always throw tacks in the roadway causing a flat tire. When that happens, we will fix the flat tire and continue the journey. Nothing can stop us from reaching our final destination. Maintain confidence and continue to believe in the company. I believe we are in good hands.
By: jay_adobe 26 Apr 2007, 10:26 AM EDT Msg. 533556 of 779575 (This msg. is a reply to 533548 by mjl62.) Jump to msg. #
mjl62, Because criminal charges are not in order at this phase of the plan, IMO. Right now we must complete actions in a certain order ,for it all to work accordingly. Just sit back, relax, and watch it unfold. I believe you will be astonished, ultimately.
By: DrillBit 13 Jun 2006, 04:18 PM EDT Msg. 297309 of 780317 Jump to msg. #
Jay, I was advised, many months back, that cmkx WAS/IS a national security issue and with that some power can be exerted via Mr. Mahue and laws inacted since 9/11. When I posted same, many laughed.
By: jay_adobe 13 Jun 2006, 04:22 PM EDT Msg. 297317 of 780317 (This msg. is a reply to 297309 by DrillBit.) Jump to msg. #
DrillBit, They may be privileged enough one day to see that they owe you an apology for your being able to identify what is occurring and realize that you knew something about protecting the economic viability of this nation's markets, thereby ensuring global economic stability, sir. Presidential power in times of war is greater than Joe Public is aware. It is purely the presidential powers during these times that must be empowered to protect the empire at all costs. The markets are being cleaned up, much of which Joe Public will never see. Bravo to you.
By: jay_adobe 17 May 2007, 09:47 AM EDT Msg. 547480 of 779574 (This msg. is a reply to 547474 by seatech3.) Jump to msg. #
seatech, I believe he was talking about the shell CMKM Diamonds, Inc only. So, yes, I believe that statement to be currently true about CMKM Diamonds, Inc. CMKM Diamonds Inc is merely a shell now with $588 in the coffers and 45 million Entourage shares at this point in time. I believe current management believes everything they are putting out as it pertains to CMKM Diamonds Inc. My beliefs are of a much larger, more encompassing viewpoint. This whole plan is so much bigger than the current CMKM Diamonds Inc. I believe CMKM Diamonds Inc is the current bouncing ball or distraction. imo
By: jay_adobe 23 Jun 2005, 09:41 AM EDT Msg. 1008285 of 1008405 (This msg. is a reply to 1008281 by elgumd.) Jump to msg. #
elgumd, It is supposed to be completed before then. Remember, though, that things aren't always as they seem and someone can always throw tacks in the roadway causing a flat tire. When that happens, we will fix the flat tire and continue the journey. Nothing can stop us from reaching our final destination . Maintain confidence and continue to believe in the company. I believe we are in good hands.
By: jay_adobe 19 Mar 2008, 06:34 PM EDT Msg. 687419 of 778290 (This msg. is a reply to 687312 by dmgroup.) Jump to msg. #
dmgroup, Grab a cold glass of sweet iced tea, your favorite reading glasses, and a comfortable chair while you sit and continue to watch it all unfold around you. I believe the transfer has begun, and the fall will continue. It's good to be the biggest; bigger than anything ever in the history of the financial markets. Enjoy your days observing and living history in the making. imo
By: jay_adobe 11 Jan 2006, 01:53 PM EST Msg. 87996 of 785736 Jump to msg. #
moby, I'm feeling great. Thanks for asking. The truth is you will be a wealthy person if you own this stock, imo.
Remember, there are no coincidences. For now - RB site is down, TF site is down, GEMM website is down, USCA website is down, SGGM website is down, AZTM website is down, MCIO website is down.......
There is more. And there is more to come. You just have to get off this board and dig.
Too bad NITE site is not down ......... yet.
Enjoy your day. imo
By: jay_adobe 20 Jun 2005, 03:25 PM EDT Msg. 1004526 of 1004557 (This msg. is a reply to 1004511 by livingstonecatabbi.) Jump to msg. #
living, I'm riding this one all the way to the bank. We are far from done. The game is still being played and it's their move. Will they topple their own king or do we have to put them in checkmate? The game plans are already drawn. We will counter every move. We will overcome every obstacle. Never before has a pink sheet company had the power and resources to do what this company is doing. Never again will a company have the opportunity to set ground-breaking legal precedence as we are doing. Others will follow through the doors we are opening, but none will ever be able to pioneer this effort like this company.
You should be proud to have the opportunity to be on this bus with Mr. Casavant as your driver; oh, and now he has a co-driver, a man of experience that has been down similar roads, but never this road. The roadmap is being written. The journey is fun and will be rewarded handsomely.
By: jay_adobe 05 Jul 2007, 12:13 PM EDT Msg. 571567 of 779307 (This msg. is a reply to 571558 by waterdog85.) Jump to msg. #
waterdog, presume that I am not in the know. I am merely a shareholder with an opinion who enjoys discussing potential outcomes. I do not know what your bank account will look like, but if I had that number of shares, I would expect to retire when the final bell rings. When will it happen? It's happening all around you right now. The cogs are turning, the resignations have and are happening, laws are changing, countries are realigning their economic systems, new leaders are being put in place, bad guys are being rounded up in record numbers, lights are shining where lights haven't shined before, NSS has been admitted and reforms are occurring, our funds are drawing interest prior to payout.....and on and on and on. When the master deems the atmosphere is properly conditioned, it will occur. And to think that you were one of a group of 60K__ powerful enough to move the world for a split second......It's history in the making; a legacy; a heritage. Hmmmmmm. of course, imo.
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 31, 2014 8:15:09 GMT -5
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Now here is the point of the thread when I came up with the possible thought of connections came to mind and I thought what? So here we go.
On a political level of thought....
1) what would happen to President Obama's so called presidential legacy IF he were be leaving office at the end of his second term..... and all of the sudden the whole global financial system were to start to bust as this threads has articles, links and quotes claiming such?
2) Obama or any president is only allowed 2 terms so what would really happen to Obama's legacy if he were on his way out when this busted and he were not able to fix this by 2016 on his way out?
3) Better yet or even more important, what would happen in the start of 2015 when the elections would be starting with the Republicans and the Democrats fighting for the presidential seat AND DURING THAT TIME WHAT IF ALL OF WHAT THIS THREADS TOPICS ARE OF EVERYTHING HERE CRASHING HARD.... what a field day would the Republican's have with claiming that Obama allowed this massive crash to happen under his watch?
4) How tough of a concern would that be for the democrats as a whole to not be associated with Obama being a Democrat and they losing their possibility in getting into the presidential seat for 2016 if our already un-respected government had the whole nation ticked about this huge mess if it were to happen during this time?
5) In the political world it is all about power obviously and if something like this were to come about in a wrong time right before or during the elections.... that would most likely be Catastrophic for the democratic party and a stronger chance for the Republicans that I would not believe the democrats would want to experience or have that concern.
So many have said.... and who is to know... but many have said that with a financial crash like this and a reset effect would be felt for about 2 to 3 months after it happened and then the people/ the nation would start to see the positives in the new system after the reset.
6) The other thought is.... if this were to be something massive and the reset were to be quick enough like the 2 months to the 3 month example above where the people of this nation were to see the positives in it.... WOULD OBAMA WANT TO LET THIS CRISIS GO BEYOND HIS PRESIDENCY AND HE PREVENTING HOW HUGE THIS WOULD MAKE HIM LOOK IF HE WERE THE SAVIOR IN THE SURFACE PICTURE SOLUTION?
As it strongly looks with all that is going on with the killing of the U.S Petro dollar with the Brics IMF that will be starting in July 2014 and most likely all of the nations who do not like the current IMF that is controlled by the United States and the lack of control that all the rest of the nations besides the United States.... get no say mostly. And on top of that.... the SDRs that the U.S controlled IMF is trying to push or IS going to push with having all countries TRADE THEIR GOLD FOR OIL IN THE UNITED STATES'S CONTROLLED IMF. WHAT COUNTRY WOULD WANT TO LOSE THEIR GOLD TO THE CONTROLLING IMF AND LOSE IT FOR THE IMF TO COLLECT IT ALL AND PULL SOME POWER TACTIC WITH IT DOWN THE ROAD.
Currently the Brics IMF is saying it will except all nations currencies instead of their gold. So the point here is this: It would seem obvious that most countries are going to jump ship over to the BRICS IMF and leave the current one with only the United States in it with how bad this looks. Anyway so with this BRICS IMF and the Chinese Yuan gaining stamina with becoming the new world reserve currency and all the other countries that are bypassing the petro dollar now and Russia almost a month ago has already started the movement with completely kicking out the Petro dollar having no existence in their financial system and Russia also kicked out MasterCard and Visa too. Russia alone is said that it will cost our U.S economy $1 trillion dollars to our financial system. So this ball is rolling on its own anyway but I now want to bring back the point with Obama.
So my main question is.... if Obama or the democrats do not want this crash to happen right directly before the elections and not during... and Obama most likely does not want to look like the dunce of a president that allowed this massive financial crash to happen on his way out of office to where he can not been seen fixing it...or not letting a Republican to gain steam more over in 2016 ...... so is Obama intentionally trying to crash the financial system before the elections start or before he leaves and isn't the hero that saved the financial system?
What do I mean? When Russia went into Ukraine all of the sudden Obama did what? He threw financial sanctions down on Russia? Either Obama was absolutely stupid or he was trying to start the crash of the U.S Petro dollar. Watch Jim Sinclair's video on March 16th, 2014 from minute- 21:40-24:49 where he talks about---> Gold expert Jim Sinclair is issuing a warning of a massive downside risk to U.S. sanctions against Russia. Sinclair says watch the "struggling dollar" and Russia accepting any currency for oil and natural gas. Sinclair explains, "It's struggling . . . because it smells the real teeth of retaliation for sanctions being in the simple acceptance of any currency whatsoever for payment for gas to Europe. Believe me, they will settle in other currencies. . . . It makes energy cheaper. Why in the world would anyone want to pay in dollars if they can pay in their own currency? Russia could retaliate in a way that would have phenomenal impact on the U.S. dollar. . . . Russia has the upper hand. They have it in their ability to turn the U.S. economy upside down and into collapse. There is no question whatsoever. Putin doesn't need a nuclear bomb. He has a nuclear economic bomb that he can set off at any time." [/font][/b]
from minute- 21:40-24:49 where he talks about thee above in bold and in color.
Jim Sinclair even brings up how this would ignite the derivatives industry with the effects of what Russia could do to us.
So if it wasn't too obvious how wrong it was to mess with Russia..... you would think that Obama might of noticed the effects and might of thought of " well maybe that was a bad idea" but NO... Obama just threw down more sanctions again a few days ago. What? Come on, he is not trying to crash the economy with going against Russia and what they can do to us?
Or here is probably the better answer: Since the United States is so secretive and of course hides everything with its controlled media.... could Obama be stressing TO HAVE RUSSIA IN THE SURFACE PICTURE BE THEE EXCUSE TO WHY OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM CRASHED AND THE AVERAGE PERSON WHO DOES NOT KNOW ANYTHING THAT IS GOING ON WITH THE FINANCIAL SYSTEM .... CAN HAVE THE FOCUS THAT OBAMA WAS FOLLOWING THE United Nations OBJECTIVES AND WAS TRYING TO HELP POLICE AGAINST RUSSIA'S SO CALLED INVASION ..... AND AS WE WHO ARE FOLLOWING CAN KNOW THE REAL REASON BECAUSE WE ARE AWARE OF THE DERIVATIVES WOULD BE IGNITED IN A MAJOR FINANCIAL CRISIS LIKE RUSSIA STARTING THE WHOLE MOVEMENT OF A COUNTRY THAT GOES AGAINST THE U.S DOLLAR AND THE UNITED STATES KNOWS NOT TO MESS WITH A NUCLEAR BIG POWER AND ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY HAVE BIGGER ALLIANCES LIKE CHINA AND GERMANY AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO OBVIOUSLY IS SHOWING NO LOVE TO THE UNITED STATES AND THEIR CONTROL ON THE CURRENT IMF AND ALL THE CONTROL RELATED.
SO MAYBE THIS COULD BE A 2 PART OBJECTIVE WITH OBAMA. 1) FORCE A CRASH WITH THE RUSSIAN SURFACE PICTURE INVASION AND IT LOOKS ALL PROPER WHERE RUSSIA FIGHTS BACK AND OUR CONTROLLED MEDIA SAYS WHEN THEE EFFECTS HIT THE FAN... " RUSSIA MANIPULATED US WITH NOT FOLLOWING THE GLOBAL FINANCIAL PETRO SYSTEM AND THEY CAUSED THE TURN IN THE MANY COUNTRIES THAT ALSO TURNED AWAY FROM US...PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES... I WAS JUST TRYING TO ASSIST UKRAINE WITH THE UN POWER TO STOP RUSSIA FROM BULLYING UKRAINE." AND MEANWHILE THE WHOLE DERIVATIVE MESS AND FINANCIAL MESS CAN BE BURIED IN IN THE EXCUSE OF IT WAS RUSSIA AND THEY MANIPULATING US FINANCIALLY AND TOOK MANY OF THEIR OTHER COUNTRIES WITH THEM.
AND OBVIOUS #2 OBJECTIVE... AS I SAID ABOVE FIRST.... MAYBE OBAMA IS TRYING TO GET THE SYSTEM CRASHED AND RESET TO WHERE THE ECONOMY CAN BE REPAIRED ENOUGH BEFORE THE 2015 ELECTION SEASON STARTS, BECAUSE THIS IS VERY BOLD AND ACTUALLY PRETTY STUPID ESPECIALLY SEEING THE FIRST TIME OBAMA THREW DOWN THE SANCTIONS AND OBAMA DID NOT LEARN FROM THAT AND OBAMA DOES A SECOND ROUND OF SANCTIONS A FEW DAYS AGO? REALLY? SOMETHING IS UP HERE FOLKS.
So with all that is currently going on like ---> in May Russia and China will sign a major gas deal that will shake the world, as the transaction will also spurn the US dollar.
And we have the Brics IMF starting in July 2014 and once again... articles show that they want to get out of the "fiat" garbage and will probably start the backing of their currencies over there and most likely were not allowed to do that with the current US controlled IMF. So what a wonderful effect that would cause if the rest of the world got out of fiat and they all got backed by metals or whatever and if the United States wanted to co-exist globally, that might force the United States to back its currency after it is destroyed and rebuilt by being backed hopefully.
And the Chinese yaun on pace to become the new world reserve currency many say this year.
In closing many more things have spawned from Russia starting their movement against the United States so thank you Obama whether you meant to intentionally wanted tick off Russia or not. The ball is rolling and it is rolling fast and I bet this speeds up the pace of everything with this whole extra avenue with Russia stepping out first with being the on country who could stand against the United States with not participating in the Petro dollar garbage system. So I doubt the United States will come down on any other countries who also join the BRICS IMF economic system. Again thanks to Obama for ticking off Russia and the many new great things to come shortly as it looks as things mound up more and more against the U.S petro dollar.
Things should be getting better quicker as countries continue to re-align and all of this compounds. imo. I am finally excited to see the tangibility here. This stuff can not be denied. I AM PLEASED TO SEE AND I REMMEND WE ALL KEEP AN EYE ON ALL OF THIS STUFF. Take care and all the best!
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 31, 2014 8:17:21 GMT -5
latteplease DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Posts: 2,924
Excellent outline of our story Duc! I think the thing that strikes me most is that when you look at our CMKX saga and see this through the eyes of a massive Sting effort conducted by Maheu and team, it becomes clearer by the day how much merit the old Jay Adobe posts retain and how eerily spot on those comments were and are. We are literally seeing it all unfold, (not in the mainstream media, but in reality). It requires out of the box thinking and the patience to read about the global shiftings and realignments. (But first you have to believe that we were the largest naked short in the history of the markets and that we caught them red handed and proved it with a cert pull - an epic historical cert pull, never to be allowed again).
I find it extremely encouraging to consider that we are approaching an election year and that Obama would naturally want to secure his own party and his personal legacy before the upcoming debates - which should kick off after the first of the year. That being said, Duc makes an excellent point about the timing of things. It appears to be upon us rather than way off in the future. Couple that with the faltering petro and global shift of power and trading nations alliances and you have the Perfect Storm of a shift coming into view. Bottom line, we need the new system to be implemented before our money is released. I believe Obama will want to take the credit for getting rid of the ever-increasingly, unpopular Federal Reserve (Thank you Ron Paul) and restarting an asset backed system - not necessarily because he would want to, but maybe because he no longer has a choice (Thank you Team?). (And besides, why waste a crisis? Uhuh!) So, if it is inevitable, why not make lemonade out of lemons and take the credit. He is just arrogant enough to do such a thing, imo. Maybe these lame sanctions are nothing more than theatre and maybe he is really just playing a part in this ever shifting global world, and like Jay said, some re-alignments would be to our detriment. How true!
The US has the potential to mine their own resources, capitalize on their own strength, manufacture and get rid of the elite bankers and Fed while we do. It will likely be messy, but worth it. My hope is that the plan behind this all is so thought out that it allows for a complete cleansing and restructure of the entire mess we are in in this nation. To quote a journalist from an article I read. "we have 515 people telling over 300 million what to do." What is wrong with that picture?! If Jay is correct, we are the biggest thing to happen to the markets and the effects will be seen in short order. I believe that Al was saying the same things and I wait (expectantly) on their success and the shift- the end of the petro, which is definitely being pummeled to death...BRICS Bank coming in July, Iran trading with China and Russia aside from the petro-dollar, Saudi Arabia "laying all options on the table" for the same, and dozens of countries jumping on board the Eur-Asia ship to a new trading world apart from the corrupted US of A. We so deserve this middle finger treatment, (pardon my frankness) but we really do - just look at our representatives, our banking criminals, Wall Street and our corporate strongholds in government (Big Oil companies and pharmaceutical industries come to mind, to name just a couple). Like Ron Paul said, we need a smaller government, because they just cannot handle all the power. On his Congressional desk he had a plaque that read: "Dont steal, the government hates competition." How true!
When this all comes down, and I believe this year it will, (IMO) - we need to be smarter and more engaged and we need to pull an "Iceland" on the remnant of thieves still in office at that time and on the banking sector. They need to go because we have a nation to resurrect. To paraphrase George Bailey in It's a Wonderful Life (in his conversation with Clarence the angel), Money sure comes in handy down here. It certainly does, and especially if it is placed in the right hands. It's been in the wrong hands for far too long and I believe that at the heart of this battle, our team has been trying to change that. Like Dennis Smith said to me years ago, Al and I just want to see the Fed get taken down. We are just two older guys who care about our country and making a difference. Well I believe they just may have...and so we wait, but Lord willing, not much longer.
Again, thank you Duc for your foresight, hindsight and insight!
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 31, 2014 8:18:47 GMT -5
nada999999 DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Posts: 2,478 www.forbes.com/sites/robertlenzner/2014/04/30/seking-shelter-warren-buffett-limits-receivables-from-major-banks/Warren Buffett Predicts Major Financial Discontinuity Involving Too Big To Fail Banks, Derivatives Warren Buffett is well known for his famous warning about derivatives as “weapons of mass destruction.” Well, recently he went much further with Forbes Magazine, flatly prognosticating someday (he doesn’t known when) a massive financial “discontinuity,” which the dictionary refers to as an “ending, expiration, halt, lapse, a shutdown, a stoppage,” could very well be worse than 2008. What terribly worries him is that he simply doesn’t understand the massive derivatives position on the balance sheet of J.P. Morgan Chase .” Like many other financial experts Buffett can’t really figure out the financial health of JPM’s derivatives. It is impossible for anyone to divine the extent that JPM is profiting or losing money or the risks entailed in the identity of counterparties, the quality of the collateral used, and the amount of leverage employed. “Someday,” he tells Forbes, “it won’t matter how large the level of assets on J.P. Morgan’s balance sheet. There is no risk control system that is effective if the numbers get big enough. I don’t believe the reserves they set up against loss in their derivatives. All that netting stuff doesn’t mean anything. I don’t want to be intertwined with any bank as to significant amounts of receivables. I can’t get that intertwined.” One of the fears he has is of a major cyber warfare attack on the major Too Big to Fail banks that disrupts the financial markets. Buffett is reflecting a more generally accepted opinion held by central bankers that poor, incomplete or very limited information about the major banks is available to the public. Former Fed Governor Kevin Warsh admitted recently that ” Investors can’t truly understand the nature and quality of the assets and liabilities. They can’t readily assess the reliability of the capital to offset losses. They can’t assess the underlying sources of the firm’s profits. The disclosure obfuscates more than it informs, and the government is not just permitting it but seems to be encouraging it,” Warsh said recently. So, today Buffett flatly tells Forbes he refuses to write any long term derivatives contracts with anyone, recalling the trouble the nation of Kuwait faced many years ago when it could not collect on its derivatives contracts. Nor will he take positions in short term commercial paper for even a few weeks, as he wants to avoid getting stuck in a crisis where he won’t be able to collect the expected receivables from a counter-party. Buffett is adamantly risk averse to being dependent on substantial amounts of monetary receivables from any counter-party, apparently including J.P. Morgan. The nation’s most famous investment guru, about to preside over another Berkshire Hathaway annual meeting this Saturday, May 3rd, must be taken seriously in his aversion to a “discontinuity” that would result in Berkshire being owed several hundred million dollars on a frozen derivatives trade. He is avoiding massive financial interconnections with Too Big To Fail banks. Buffett’s partner at Berkshire Hathaway, Los Angeles attorney Charlie Munger, is even more outspoken in his utter disdain for the massive buildup of derivative positions on major bank balance sheets. “Wall Street is addicted to derivatives trading like the masses are addicted to sports betting,” Munger tells me. “Both are counterproductive, but lucrative for their practitioners. You are talking about gambling,” he tells me in a telephone interview. “The banks are just gambling parlors with huge odds in favor of the people running them.” Munger insists that the derivative books of the 5 major banks are “a perfect business for the owners. It is one of the most lucrative businesses there is. But, they are doing nothing for economic growth.” As for J.P.Morgan, CEO Jamie Dimon waxes enthusiastic about JPM’s “enormous amount of what we consider highly liquid assets,” in his letter to shareholders included in the 2014 annual report. JPM, according to Dimon’s 32 page letter, has $741 billion in its Highly Liquid Asset Account (HQLA) made up of $414 billion in cash, which is mostly deposits at central banks and another $244 billion of US Treasuries, foreign sovereign bonds and government guaranteed or sponsored securities. Yet, in his shareholder letter Dimon also complains how JPM’s derivative positions will cost the bank more additional charges from cost of capital, liquidity and margin requirements. Appearing to be irritated by developments that will cost the banks more in operating expenses at his second most important revenue producer after asset management, Dimon complains that “almost everyone has become a risk expert and sees risk behind every rock. They don’t want to miss it like they did in 2008.” I guess you can include Buffett as a leader of that crowd. You could also include several other major US financial operations that are preparing for the possibility of the next great meltdown. Goldman Sachs, one of J.P. Morgan’s most ferocious competitors, is taking no chances. It has built up a cash hoard of $184 billion being held in very short term cash items, and not being employed in the firm’s trading operations or investment banking. This $184 billion and growing is an insurance policy against the next major meltdown, and assures the firm of being able to operate for at least 6 months and possibly a year without having to go back to the capital markets or seek out an angel investor like Buffett, who invested $5 billion in 2008. AIG, the largest insurance company in the world, which required an $185 billion bailout in September 2008, has completely restructured itself to be less of a diversified aggressive financial services giant with a $527 billion book of Credit Default Swaps and CDOs that plummeted in value during the financial crisis. AIG, according to its financial statements, has largely liquidated its risky naked positions in derivatives, has sold off several operations like the aircraft leasing company, and has instituted a tight management structure of risk control that assures the insurance company of a greater control over its liquidity status. AIG is on its way back to being a pure property and casualty insurer. As for General Electric, it did not wait long to deal with the Financial Stability Board’s designation of GE Capital, (formerly GE Credit), its huge financial services unit, as a systemically risky enterprise. GE has filed to take GE Capital public in an IPO, changing its name to Synchrony Financial. Then in 2015 GE will spin off the remaining 80% of Synchrony Financial to its own shareholders, thereby divesting itself the potential systemic risk and all the headaches that would bring to the stock market’s appreciation of GE itself
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 31, 2014 8:19:43 GMT -5
post #7
Back in April 2013, I was listening to an economist late night online who said something interesting as I was listening. He said, " 2014 is going to be the year of the CURRENCY WARS." I thought " currency wars?" What in the world do we need currency wars for? Well obviously AGAIN, what makes a currency powerful or not powerful?...... THE DEMAND for it....or the lack there of. If there is NO DEMAND of the currency.... then there isn't any existence of anything potent to it, OBVIOUSLY. So what happened to the U.S dollar in 1971? The Petro dollar was created to where the deal was thrown into place where the whole world was forced or bullied to be made to BUY THE U.S PETRO dollar to complete one country's oil buy to another.....AND THE UNITED STATES DOES NOT HAVE TO HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH ANYTHING IF TIMBUCKTOO AND Antarctica want to buy oil from one another....THEY HAVE TO BUY THE U.S DOLLAR FOR THIS TRANSACTION.
So what does this this do....or what did this deal do in 1971 when the "PETRO DOLLAR AGREEMENT" went into place? IT CREATED THE INFINITE DEMAND globally where every country has to buy the U.S dollar. The petro agreement bullied the whole globe INTO FORCING THE CREATION OF THE DEMAND for the U.S dollar. Remember the DEMAND is EVERYTHING to a currency in this fiat world now. So because of this petro agreement that the whole globe has no choice of their own, now the Federal Reserve is the most powerful bank in the world.... WHY?.... because it CONTROLLES THE PETRO DOLLAR THAT HAS INFINITE DEMAND GLOBALLY BECAUSE OF THE PETRO AGREEMENT.
So to now bring this connection of thought now into a perspective of the United States and it's mounding debt based financial system and to how the Federal Reserve has their scheme of control with a debt based financial system that has the control globally.... which allows what has gone on up to this point and how screwed the western financial system is at the present time. Since this debt based financial system has gotten the United States in this current mess of a moment of truth..... the western financial system ( the United States and the Federal Reserve ) are so caught in their own debt that a perfect example I keep using in thought was a few months ago when we needed the debt ceiling raised TO PAY OUR GOERNMENT BILLS..... the debt ceiling was raised $1.2 trillion which was is said to last the United States.... until March 2015.
So here is my point: If we did not have the control of the U.S Petro dollar with the Federal Reserve..... to which because the rest of the world needs infinite amounts of U.S dollars ( because oil is not cheap and when countries buy oil for their countries... that is obviously a lot of oil but when every country on the planet needs to buy with the U.S petro dollar the demand is off the charts)..... which allows the Federal Reserve to print up as much money as they so want because THE DEMAND is infinite..... AND THAT IS WHY OUR GOVERNMENT CAN BORROW $1.2 TRILLION DOLLARS TO PAY IT'S BILLS UNTIL MARCH 2015 CURRENTLY WHILE THIS SYSTEM IS STILL IN PLACE.
So what happens if all of the sudden the rest of the world says " we do not want your U.S Petro dollar anymore? DOES THAT KILL THE DEMAND OR WOULD THAT KILL THE DEMAND OF THE U.S PETRO DOLLAR .....IF THE REST OF THE WORLD SAID WE ARE DONE WITH IT? Of course it does!!! If the DEMAND of the dollar gets killed with the LACK OF DEMAND so WHAT HAPPENS THE NEXT TIME THAT WE NEED ANOTHER $1.2 TRILLION DOLLARS TO LAST US LIKE THE MARCH 2015 EXAMPLE..... AND THE DEMAND OF THE U.S PETRO DOLLAR IS NO LONGER THERE? WE MOST LIKELY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO PRINT $1.2 TRILLION DOLLARS OR ANYWHERE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER. AND WHAT HAPPENS TO A DEBT BASED FINANCIAL SYSTEM CREATED BY THE FEDERAL RESERVE WHEN THE UNITED STATES DEBT IS SO LARGE and economists have said that "THE U.S IS SO IN DEBT THAT IT IS APPROACHING THE POINT THAT IT CAN'T EVEN PAY THE INTEREST ON THE DEBT IT OWES." How scary is that thought?
So if you kill THE DEMAND for the Petro dollar, and all of the sudden WE the United States are so in debt and can barely pay the interest on our debt based financial system....WHAT IN THE WORLD IS GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THESE CURRENCY WARS KILL THE DEMAND FOR THE PETRO DOLLAR'S CONTOL GLOBALLY? WE WILL HAVE TO CUT THE TIES AND CONGRESS WHO HAS THE POWER IN THE U.S CONSTITUTION ..." TO MAKE CHANGES TO OR DECLARE A NEW CURRENCY OR KEEP OR GET RID OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE..... CONGRESS IS FINALLY GOING TO HAVE TO CUT THEIR TIES TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE WHEN ALL GET'S TO THE POINT OF REACHING THE CLIFFS EDGE. And mind you, the Congress and other major decision makers have the same money we all do and they most likely have their millions or more in their retirement accounts that even the IRS can not even look into..... and IF THE WHOLE WESTERN ECONOMY GOES OVER THE CLIFF..... SO DOES THEIR MILLIONS ALSO..... SO THEY HAVE JUST AS MUCH TO LOSE AS WE ALL DO... SO COMMON SENSE WOULD SAY THEY WILL KNOW WHEN TO HIT THE "RESET BUTTON."
SO WITH ALL THAT IS GOING ON IN POSTS #1-#6 THERE ARE ARTICLES SHOWING HOW COUNTRIES ARE GETTING AWAY FROM THE U.S CONTROLLED IMF ....to where most likely the U.S controlled IMF that has the United States at a WHOPPING 17% control in comparison to the distant 2ND place China with 3% and everyone else is smaller in their percentages..... so MOST LIKELY.... IF THE CURRENT GLOBAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM IS CONTROLLED BY THE UNITED STATES AND THE UNITED STATES IS CONTROLLED BY THE FEDERAL RESERVE CHOKE HOLD OF DEBT.... WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT IN THE CURRENT IMF .... IF OTHER COUNTRIES WANTED TO BACK THEIR CURRENCIES WITH THE CURRENT IMF CONTROLL, I BET I CAN COME UP WITH THE MOST LIKELY POSSIBLITY THAT IF ANY COUNTRY WANTED TO BACK THEIR OWN CURRENCY.... I BET THE STRONGHOLD CONTROL OF THE CURRENT IMF WOULD NOT ALLOW IT. ONCE AGAIN, THE U.S CONTROLS 17% IN COMPARISON EVERYONE ELSE NOT AMOUNTING TO SQUAT.... AND IF THE FEDERAL RESERVE'S FINANCIAL SYSTEM MESS HAS THE CONTROL OVER THE U.S RIGHT NOW.... THEN COMMON SENSE WOULD SAY IN THOUGHT THAT MOST LIKELY THE U.S WOULD NOT ALLOW ANY COUNTRY TO BACK THEMSELVES WHICH WOULD GO AGAINST THE CONTROL AND SCHEME OF THE CURRENT CONTROLLED PETRO DOLLAR/ GLOBAL FINANCIAL SYSTEM. THE FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM CAN NOT HAVE BOTH SYSTEMS where some or half of the countries allow their currencies to be backed....and the Petro dollar and the Federal Reserve's control to which gives the Federal Reserve all of it's power globally with controlling the global DEMAND of the currency they control CURRENTLY.
ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS BYE BYE FEDERAL RESERVE WITH WHAT IS VERY SHORTLY COMING DOWN THE PIKE WITH THE "BRICS IMF IN JULY 2014" AND HOW PISSED OFF COUNTRIES ARE WITH THE CONTROLLING AND CURRENT IMF. MOST WILL PROBABLY LEAVE IN SPITE.... BUT IF THEY WANTED TO BACK THEIR OWN CURRENCIES ANYWAY NOW BUT CAN'T....... I AM SURE THEY WILL BE ALLOWED AND DO SO IN THE BRICS NATIONS IMF. AND IF THEY ALSO KNOW THAT THIS WILL ASSIST IN KILLING THE DEMAND OF THE GLOBAL CONTROLLING PETRO DOLLAR AS WELL, THEY MOST LIKELY WILL BACK THEIR CURRENCIES OVER THERE AND IF THE REST OF THE WORLD JUMPS ON BOARD OVER THERE, HOW QUICK CAN THE UNITED STATES HAVE TO RESPOND IN NOT BEING THE LAST MAN OUT WHERE IN ORDER FOR THE UNTIED STATES NOT TO BE LEFT OUT AND NOT COUNTED WITH IT'S FIAT GARBAGE CURRENCY.....TO WHERE THE UNITED STATES WILL MOST LIKELY HAVE TO DO THEIR "RESET" FIRST TO WIPE OUT ALL OF THEIR DEBT AND DERIVATIVE DEBTS.....THEN BACK THEIR CURRENCY BECAUSE THE LAST THING THE UNITED STATES WOULD WANT IS TO BACK THEIR CURRENCY NOW AND PAY FOR ALL OF THEIR DEBT WITH ASSET BACKED REAL MONEY. LET THIS GET COVERED OR DEALT WITH IN THE GARBAGE MONEY THAT FIRST CREATED IT, AND HAVE IT ALL DIE IN THAT SYSTEM THAT CREATED IT..... AND LET THE "RESET" DEFINE THE NEW FINANCIAL SYSTEM TO WHICH THEN THE REAL MONEY BACKED SYSTEM CAN CO-EXIST WITH THE REST OF THE WORLDS.
And I just want to use Jim Sinclair again and understand I am not a Jim Sinclair nut BUT I give full respects to his understandings BECAUSE he is in his 70's and Jim Sinclair has been in the GOLD World for 50 years. So why would Jim Sinclair have any important understand to money/currency/or financial picture? Gold and the dollar in this current system, when one is up the other is down. So if you can understand the dollar in this case and what it is doing and where it is going.... then the gold people can project what Gold will be doing with the opposite effects to the dollar. So therefore, if Jim Sinclair has been in the Gold industry foe 50 years and knows what he knows on how to interpret "THE DOLLAR" and needs to know that to understand the Gold being on the opposite end..... I think Jim Sinclair is well I understanding of what he sees. Anyway, I just wanted to re-post again the Jim Sinclair video as I did in a couple posts above but just want to put focus on Jim Sinclair on what he says about how powerful the Petro dollar is global RIGHT THIS VERY SECOND ---- at minute 21:51- 21:57 " The Petro dollar is the singular most important factor that exists in economics today, bar none."
So all that is going on again with the Brics IMF being set up in July 2014 ..... where countries can now not be attached to the controlled U.S IMF to which is controlled by the Federal Reserve Scheme.... and it has been said that the Brics group does want to back their currencies.... WHAT WILL THAT DO TO THE DEMAND OF THE PETRO DOLLAR BESIDES COUNTRIES ALREADY LEAVING AND JOINING WHAT RUSSIA IS DOING WITH NOT USING THE PETRO DOLLAR IN ITS ENERGY SALES..... AND THEN THE CHINESE YAUN HAS SO MANY BUYING THAT CURRENCY AND IT IS BEING CALLED THE DEFACTO WORLD RESERVE CURRENCY AT THIS POINT.
WHAT IS COMING AND WE CAN SEE THE WRITTING ON THE WALL HERE COMPLETELY..... THE CURRENCY WAR IS OBVIOUSLY GOING ON AND IF THE PETRO DOLLAR IS THE "BE ALL" OF THE GLOBAL ECONOMY.... AND IF THERE IS A CURRENCY WAR GOING ON..... OBVIOUSLY THE ATTACK IS AGAINST THE PETRO DOLLAR. IF THE PETRO DOLLAR IS THE BLOOD SUPPLY TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE...WHICH IT IS... AND THE REST OF THE WORLD GETS OUT OF IT, KILLING THE DEMAND OF IT, IF THE DEMAND IS KILLED, AND ALL OF THE EXISTING DEBT IS THE SIZE OF MOUNT ST. HELEN'S AND WE CAN NOT PAY FOR ALL THAT WE CREATED WHEN THAT MOMENT OF TRUTH HAPPENS SHORTLY, THEN OBVIOUSLY THE DERIVATIVES WAKES UP AND THE $1.4 QUADRILLION DERIVATIVES WAKES UP AND IT'S SIZE OF THE 25 TIMES THE GLOBAL ECONOMY COMES CRASHING DOWN ON THE UNITED STATES WHEN THE INTEREST RATES GO ABOVE 3% AND HIGHER. WE WILL HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO HIT THE RESET BUTTON TO WIPE ALL OF THAT AWAY BEFORE IT COLLAPSES THE WHOLE SYSTEM. AND WHAT DID JAY ADOBE SAY AGAIN FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME? " IT'LL END IN THE DERIVATIVE FINALITY."
And Jim Sinclair even brought up in his video about derivatives as well with relation to the derivatives and how they can destroy our whole system. AND HE THEN GOES INTO THE PETRO DOLLAR AND HOW WE GO TO WAR TO PROTECT THE CONTROL OF IT. Here is his quote and it starts from minute 23:23 TO 24:49.
" The truth is to take Russia out of the SWIFT system .... is to put a bullet right in the U.S foot. They have an ability to reciprocate in a manor that could cause us total collapse .... especially because the derivative market ... in which it is so tied into interest rates. They ( Russia ) have it in their hand to turn the U.S economy upside down and into collapse....there is no question about it what's so ever. You can wave thee American flag all you want but the reality is, THEY HAVE THE POWER. It is a reality. It is something that you would not like to predict....IT IS SIMPLY A REALITY. Frank, we have killed people over the petro dollar .... IF YOU DO NOT THINK LIBYA WITH IT NOT WANTING TO TAKE PAYMENT FOR ENERGY IN ANY CURRENCY, YOU HAVEN'T BEEN READING THE HISTORY OF IT. YOU KNOW IT, I KNOW IT. WE KNOW WHAT THEY DO FOR THE PETRO DOLLAR. THEY CALL IT HUMANITARIANISM .....IT'S BOMBS TO PROTECT THE PETRO DOLLAR. WHAT TOOL PUTIN HAS NOW THAT IS SO POWERFUL, THAT IT IS ALMOST UNTHINKABLE. HE DOES NOT NEED NUCLEAR BOMBS, HE'S GOT A NUCLEAR ECONOMIC BOMB, THAT HE CAN SET OFF AT ANYTIME WITHOUT LAUNCHING A MISSLE.
And the first part of the quote of what Jim Sinclair said again the derivatives and it's tie to the interest rates.... and Russia has it in their power to turn us upside down and into collapse.
Again, what did Mexican billionaire Hugo Salinas Price say again? "I think we are going to see a series of bankruptcies. I think the rise in interest rates is the fatal sign which is going to ignite a derivatives crisis. This is going to bring down the derivatives system (and the financial system).
Hhhhmmm? Oh there are others that admit to this? Interest rates going up and the derivatives. RIGHT THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE HERE.
And right Jay Adobe Jay saying it will END IN THE DERIVATIVE FINALITY. Right none of this makes any sense... sure.
And Al Hodges' "RESET" yeah that makes no absolute sense here either.... all of these people must be out of their minds.... yeah right. Derivatives crashes and flushes out the cancerous system.... and Al Hodges' " RESET" has to be hit to bring in the new financial system once the crapola is flushed out before the RESET.
And NO.... what Putin has already done.... and all of the countries that are pissed off beyond belief at the U.S controlled global financial system with the current IMF control..... and the BRICS IMF forming in July 2014 .... yeah sure that will not hurt the current DEMAND on the Petro dollar globally and also mainly the other countries that will now follow what Russia just did by cutting out the U.S Petro dollar out of their financial system. The Petro dollar better start looking for it's tombstone design of what it wants. And if you kill the Petro dollar demand bye bye to the Federal Reserved that is said to also be leveraged at 90 to 1. Bye bye Federal Reserve. Bye bye old system and I am looking forward to the couple months ahead when the tangibility gets more visible as it should despite our major media putting no focus on this.
Anyway since this post is long I am going to finish off in the next post, titled post #8
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 31, 2014 8:20:45 GMT -5
Post #8Ok, to finish this off in how huge this really is, lets look at how huge on what has already take place in the past few weeks to almost a month ago. Lets really look at the tangibility that is right in front of our eyes... if we chose to look at it and acknowledge it and if people really read all of these posts in this thread, and the documentation of links and quotes prove this is all going on whether we want to admit it or not. And no I am not saying Putin is working for the CMKM Team's cause.... NO.... but the fact is... his efforts and most likely many to follow his are killing the current control of the global powers that the Team obviously needs cleaned out in order to allow a new financial system in place to have our money and others.... safe and helping out the new financial system. And understanding after reading so much on Bob Maheu's history and a ton that happened in hindsight here in this journey, I doubt nothing and believe in only big things as originally said here. ----------------------------- Anyway, I first wanted to put focus on how OUR global control of the Petro dollar was exactly that....CONTROLLED AND FORCED TO REMAIN IN CONTROL by the powers that be up to the recent past. Here is a piece of an article that I want to quote---> OPEC FADES WHILE GAZPROM WRESTS CONTROLThe influence of OPEC will fade with the Saudi desert sun. The OPEC cartel serves as the Petro-Dollar active platform to enforce the payment system in USDollar terms. Deviations invite USMilitary reaction. See Iraq, dateline 2003. See Iran, dateline 2012. Oil policy is dominated by the Saudis in the OPEC meetings, often held in Vienna. The Arab Royals like to get out of the office and mingle, even see the world that is not sun scorched. In order to comply with the Chinese new leadership in the oil and currency nexus, the Saudis will have to swallow hard and permit the Iranians to become a leading player within the NatGasCoop. It will supplant OPEC. It will be led by Russian Gazprom. It will not be dominated by oil transport ships, but rather by natgas pipelines. The key new ports will be in Syria, in Israel, with connector valves to Greece, Ukraine, and soon Pakistan. What OPEC is to the Petro-Dollar, the NatGasCoop will be to the Petro-Yuan. The risk to the Arab kingdoms is a return to desert tents and away from palaces. The coop cartel will include strange bedfellows like Iran, Qatar, Israel, Turkmenistan, Algeria, and Russia. It is coming. It will shake the world. www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article45088.html________________________________________ So there as the above article says..... "Deviations invite US Military REACTION." And lets look at what Jim Sinclair said as quoted in his video again... along the same exact lines as this above----> Jim Sinclair----> "Frank, we have killed people over the petro dollar .... IF YOU DO NOT THINK LIBYA WITH IT NOT WANTING TO TAKE PAYMENT FOR ENERGY IN ANY CURRENCY, YOU HAVEN'T BEEN READING THE HISTORY OF IT. YOU KNOW IT, I KNOW IT. WE KNOW WHAT THEY DO FOR THE PETRO DOLLAR. THEY CALL IT HUMANITARIANISM ..... IT'S BOMBS TO PROTECT THE PETRO DOLLAR. WHAT TOOL PUTIN HAS NOW THAT IS SO POWERFUL, THAT IT IS ALMOST UNTHINKABLE. HE DOES NOT NEED NUCLEAR BOMBS, HE'S GOT A NUCLEAR ECONOMIC BOMB, THAT HE CAN SET OFF AT ANYTIME WITHOUT LAUNCHING A MISSLE." ----------------------------------- So now I want to get into thought specifically about Putin. When we really look in to how amazing this is..... I am completely grateful with the actions of what Putin has done so far that HAS STARTED SOMETHING IN THE WORKS THAT CAN NOW NOT BE STOPPED. We all know about the history of the Cold War. We all know that Russia is just as much of a nuclear powerhouse as WE the United States are. And obviously both nations know not to mess with each other because pure destruction globally would be the end result and I believe neither nation wants that.....BUT BOTH NATIONS KNOW...neither are to be messed with in total form. So their Nuclear power is a great halter and gives the understanding.... do not mess with me because I can take you out as you can take me out... so we both know. Anyway so when folks really grab a hold of how amazing this is that Russia is the first country to break out against the control of the US Petro dollar system.... THIS IS HUGE! If Timbuktoo for example again were to do what Russia just did after Obama threw down the weakest financial sanctions on the planet about a month ago and to where Russia booted out the U.S Petro Dollar and Master Card and Visa with it.... Most likely the United States would be knocking on the door of Timbucktoo and bullying them back to getting back into the Petro dollar dance. And they most likely would. So with the fact that Russia has all the muscle as the United States... the United States knows it can't mess with Russia and look at how President Obama has spoken when he has done both sanctions..." Oh we do not plan on any military actions just some sanctions" which are weaker than weak and that is a fact. And lets also keep in mind how close Russia and China are in co-existence... they are like brother and brother. Here is an article titled as such of Russia and China leading the way together on a couple topics already being talked about in this thread---> Russia, China leading efforts to bypass U.S. as IMF reforms stall on Capitol Hill www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/6/russia-china-leading-efforts-to-bypass-us-as-imf-r/_____________________ China will re-open the old Silk Road as a new trading route linking Germany, Russia and ChinaApril 8th, 2014And here are just some points of this article--->Russia has just dropped another bombshell, announcing not only the de-coupling of its trade from the dollar, but also that its hydrocarbon trade will in the future be carried out in rubles and local currencies of its trading partners – no longer in dollars – see Voice of Russia Russia’s trade in hydrocarbons amounts to about a trillion dollars per year. Other countries, especially the BRICS and BRCIS-associates (BRICSA) may soon follow suit and join forces with Russia, abandoning the ‘petro-dollar’ as trading unit for oil and gas. This could amount to tens of trillions in loss for demand of petro-dollars per year (US GDP about 17 trillion dollars – December 2013) – leaving an important dent in the US economy would be an understatement. ----------------- Well beside the hurt to the Petro dollar..... Russia ....China... Germany... Iran and so many others are attached to this group. But you definitely do not want to mess with China as well and of course Germany who has been the leader of the whole Euro currency through the past couple years and Germany has been holding up the Euro mainly themselves and I bet they are beyond pissed with this but if they needed to rally all of Europe against the United States too.... there is a whole bunch of other countries to add to the list. Oh and lets not forget many many months back..... when Germany wanted their Gold back that they had stored over here....THE UNITED STATES SAID... UM YEAH..WE'LL GIVE THAT BACK TO IN ABOUT 7 TO 10 YEARS. WHAT? So I bet Germany is equally pissed and would gladly join forces IN THIS PHASE IN HELPING KILL THE PETRO DOLLAR. So there is so much more of a backing that Russia and China have and I fully believe in common sense...... the United States knows fully that their BS financial system controlled by the fiat and the Fed and the Petro dollar and the whole thing are coming to an end. This whole thing with Putin now sets the stage where more countries can now do what Russia just did and now kill the Petro dollar DEMAND and what? The United States is going to go after someone else that is not STRONG like Russia who can defend themselves? I doubt it seriously. Common sense would show that if Timbuktoo were the second nation to do what Russia did with getting rid of the Petro dollar..... I fully bet that the United States would not touch them as thee above said they used to do before Russia FINALLY STOOD UP AND HAD THE FULL MIGHT IN GOING AGAINST THE GLOBAL CONTROLLED SYSTEM OF THE PETRO DOLLAR.... no way would the United States be so stupid and go after Timbuktoo in this example and Russia and China and the others not SAY ..."UM United States, knock it off before we ALL crush you. And keep in mind what Jim Sinclair said in his video " WHAT TOOL PUTIN HAS NOW THAT IS SO POWERFUL, THAT IT IS ALMOST UNTHINKABLE. HE DOES NOT NEED NUCLEAR BOMBS, HE'S GOT A NUCLEAR ECONOMIC BOMB, THAT HE CAN SET OFF AT ANYTIME WITHOUT LAUNCHING A MISSLE." So Russia could simply launch his " Nuclear Economic Bomb" and as Jim Sinclair said again also "They ( Russia ) have it in their hand to turn the U.S economy upside down and into collapse....there is no question about it what's so ever."So basically I am giving Putin full credit for being the one to step up to the plate and take on thee assistance of dis-mantling the Federal Reserves blood supply by starting the moment in which all countries can now jump on this movement and start killing the Petro Dollar movement WHICH KILLS THE DEMAND of the FEDERAL RESERVE.... WHICH THEN KILLS THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND THEIR SYSTEM AND THEIR CONTROL. BYE BYE FED. And this Jay Adobe post that I am about to post.... change the words of MMs and brokers and put in Federal Reserve and U.S control of the Petro dollar bullying---> ----------------------- By: jay_adobe 18 Oct 2005, 12:40 PM EDT Msg. 1167880 of 1169885 (This msg. is a reply to 1167820 by 1gamethingyfan.) Jump to msg. # gamethingy, Yes it is fire and very strategic, don't you think. That fire is directed squarely at those that have done the company wrong. If you think some of the shareholders are a little stressed nowadays, just think about how the MMs and brokers are feeling. Our fire is bigger and hotter than their fire ever was. Just be patient. Know that you are in good hands and the company is doing what is best for the shareholders. imo ------------------------- So I can not even imagine the panic that is going on with the current controllers of the Petro Dollar system... Fed and all.... with all that is tangible to all of our eyes with Putin and Russia being the first to start the movement in killing the Petro dollar and now many countries can follow suit. And once again, once the BRICS IMF starts in a few months from now....does anyone think that all of the countries that leave the U.S controlled IMF and go over to the BRICS IMF are still going to use the Petro dollar? I seriously doubt it. And if the "bullied DEMAND" is not there, anymore what strength is the Federal Reserve going to have when their blood supply of the Petro dollar is drained with the "LACK OF DEMAND" being the silver bullet to the Federal Reserve ALONG WITH THE DERIVATIVES BEING THE INCINERATOR TO THE FEDERAL RESERVE considering also it is said that the Federal Reserve is also leveraged 90:1 now in dilution. Anyway, I just wanted to give thought on how awesome it is for the movement of killing the Fed and it's blood supply... THE PETRO dollar ..... and mainly on the focus of what Putin has done with Russia and the HUGE PRECEDENT setter that Putin/Russia has set for now many countries to now follow freely as if Putin just opened the gates for countries to finally get out of this crapola that our corruptors have continue to allow. The tide is changing and now there is tangibility CMKM shareholders and a focus I fully believe that as Al Hodges said in past updates " Those on Capital Hill" or whatever his exact quote was.... our government will have to do what is right in the moment of truth comes before the cliff's edge. I can not believe I am saying this but "Thanks Putin for setting the precedent for countries to bypass the Petro dollar.
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 31, 2014 8:22:29 GMT -5
Post#9And lastly, if folks really believe that we as the CMKM company have lost everything and we are what the surface picture claims to be where in the recent past Steve K. has said that he wanted to get an ROI for the shareholders. I do not believe for one second that we have to go find something else to invest into link tooth paste or becoming an MLM company or whatever has been said. I believe fully that the CEO has to just show that we are still alive with a pulse with the CEO giving forward said statements until whenever our time comes. Plain and simple. So I give Steve full credit for continuing that, completely. Also we need a company in place to keep the association alive with the Transfer Agent, most likely because it is bad enough most likely that since Transfer Online has had us, we obviously have not traded on the open market and they took us on anyway, when they did? And still after 4 years they still have us as a client and better yet, we can not afford to pay our bill to them and Transfer Online says it is ok pay us whenever? ( not exact words but point of it. ) Come on, all of this stuff does not scream things are not as they really claimed to be on the surface. Now I am not knocking Steve K. or anyone else who has been the head of this company BECAUSE I believe fully that there still needs to be a company in play...ACTIVE... or the DTCC can delete certificates after a certain amount of time and I fully believe that CMKM is not going to allow the DTCC to hit their stop watch to start counting down the deletion of our certificates... even though we are a rare case where they can not do that with us either. But the relationship of a company to a transfer agent that is still holding on to us for what ever reason makes me laugh when folks with opposite feelings than mine will say how crazy seeing the more positive things than those who do not agree with mine. That is fine, not here to do any of that, here to say my beliefs and some may have the same and some may not. Just sharing but there are way too many things that contradict the surface picture story. But I believe Steve or whomever will be the CEO in the end WHEN THE SO CALLED MERGER DOES HAPPEN WITH CMKM OR NHHI GOES INTO EMERSON'S 1010 COMPANY, SO THERE MOST LIKELY HAS TO BE A CEO TO CARRY THE NAME CMKM UNTIL WE DO FINALLY ARRIVE THERE AND GET INTO THE 1010 WHICH I BELIEVE WILL BRIDGE US INTO THE CONGLOMERATE. Now on another note, what I find funny is Steve K. said in a webinar I was listening to in Pal Talk .... he said he still can't reach Emerson Koch and Steve said he has written that avenue off. I would do the same if I were Steve but I seriously doubt that Emerson Koch can not be communicated to. It only makes sense that Emerson knows we are not to go into the 1010 UNITL AFTER WE ARE PAID WHICH SHOULD BE AFTER THE "RESET" and then we get paid and then Emerson bridges us over EVEN THOUGH CMKM HAS NOT GIVEN A DIME TO THE AGREEMENT.... but I fully believe despite the surface picture that Emerson's 1010 company OR COMPANIES are a HOLDING COMPANY OR HOLDING COMPANIES for us to be bridged over in the conglomerate AFTER WE ARE PAID and get through what this thread topic is about. Now I am going to repost a post from Dizardos of something he posted about in the Focus on the word "CONTROL," claims are fine imo thread and the reason I am posting this is because a year after I did my Derivative Finality thread someone shared with me EXACTLY what Dizardos said and the reason I was shared this was because the kind shareholder told me I was right on with my derivative focus and he mentioned to me about the South American trip as to what I will post of what Dizardos said here---> "The (average) shareholders who went to South America and met Roger Glenn, Ed Dhonau, Emerson Koch, Urban Casavant and Rendall Williams stated that those individuals were only talking about derivatives on that trip. Those shareholders in question did not even know what derivatives were at that time, so they started looking into derivatives upon their return. This certainly fits in with the quote by Jay Adobe." millionaires.proboards.com/post/718976------------------------------- So derivatives were the main thing talked about through that trip and took the spotlight and obviously the derivatives is the far bigger picture than CMKM's surface picture naked shorting and mining surface picture topic..... AND WHAT DID JAY ADOBE SAY IT WILL END WITH? "Derivatives." And what was the said main topic of that South American trip, "derivatives." And who was one of the main people there at that South American trip of Derivative talk and that being the End of our Journey too but who was there at that trip as I have that name in bold and yellow above? "Emerson Koch." Right it said he can't be found now because IF Steve K. said he had communication with him and told us he did.... wouldn't we shareholders hit him over the head and say...."Steve why are we not going into the 1010 as it were PRed in July 2009 when the Entourage cert went back? He can't say, "NOT NOW WE HAVE TO BE PAID FIRST" lol. It makes complete sense that Steve K. can not reach Emerson right now.By: jay_adobe 19 Oct 2005, 07:39 AM EDT Msg. 1170184 of 1171975 (This msg. is a reply to 1170166 by jtnirvana123.) Jump to msg. # jt, Surely you jest when you imply that nothing happened yesterday. I will leave you with this to consider: Our relationship with the JVs is much different than what it appears on the surface. You must dig deeper. Mr. Casavant's signature is paramount to figuring out that the JVs are us and we are the JVs. All are intertwined and woven so tightly that they are inseparable, thus forming a bond as one. Quit focusing on what the public sees and dig deeper. This is my last post to you, as most of us do not have time for the naysayers and doomsdayers any longer, especially after today. imo-------------------------------------- By: jay_adobe 15 Feb 2008, 09:20 AM EST Msg. 663364 of 778290 (This msg. is a reply to 663363 by lilburrito0.) Jump to msg. # lil, As planned. No single shareholder should take company management away from their daunting daily tasks that occupy their time, unless, of course one stops by for a visit. Fading away is the ultimate intention. I believe we are in good compartmentalized hands. imo
------------------ By: jay_adobe 17 May 2007, 09:47 AM EDT Msg. 547480 of 779574 (This msg. is a reply to 547474 by seatech3.) Jump to msg. # seatech, I believe he was talking about the shell CMKM Diamonds, Inc only. So, yes, I believe that statement to be currently true about CMKM Diamonds, Inc. CMKM Diamonds Inc is merely a shell now with $588 in the coffers and 45 million Entourage shares at this point in time. I believe current management believes everything they are putting out as it pertains to CMKM Diamonds Inc. My beliefs are of a much larger, more encompassing viewpoint. This whole plan is so much bigger than the current CMKM Diamonds Inc. I believe CMKM Diamonds Inc is the current bouncing ball or distraction. imo======================== And right again we have nothing and the cert pull achieved nothing. Bill Frizzell had no problem telling Steve K. about Bill's said proof of the mail in your brokerage firm statement and Steve came back saying he had what we the shareholders wanted with the proof of the naked short, lol. But Bill tells attorney fryar thee exact opposite again---> " We asked Frizzell about whether the company has any evidence of naked short selling. Frizzell has guarded this information as extremely private and claims that the company is not allowed to release this information." Attorney Fryar ------ Once again nothing to see here, we have nothing. lol ========================= On another point of thought of the reason why we do not have our money yet.... when you have $55 Trillion of Derivatives floating around in the swaps market like that number is nothing... there is a problem as when this article came out around December 2013---> CFTC Announces It Is Undercounting Size Of Swaps Market By As Much As $55 Trillionwww.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-19/cftc-announces-it-undercounting-size-swaps-market-much-55-trillion-------------- And I remember seeing many articles on what really brought down Greece's economy a couple years ago an it was flat out 1 bad and huge derivative bet that took out their whole economy. Yeah, derivatives are said to be regulated now which I believe they are BUT that article above about the $55 trillion in the swaps market floating around in December and obviously there still might be a risk to releasing our money .... and that $55 trillion was after the derivatives regulations were done. So obviously the system might need the full RESET effect when backed currencies come into play which a lot of corruption get killed when currencies are backed. A piece of Steve Forbe's interview speaks about this and he even talks about our government on 7/7/12 in an interview----> ------------------------ Steve Forbes: Certain countries feel free to spend money whether they have it or not. Fiat money, which can just be printed up, has disguised the real cost. We would never have experienced the kind of government borrowing we’ve had in recent years if we’d had stable money. The gold standard would keep the government honest.
------------------------- Maybe after all of this shifting goes on with the Petro dollar crash and all of the countries back their currencies with precious metals etc, and WE the united states are left to have a co-existence after our fall and rise back up.... that then we will most likely have to back our currency to be co-existent with the rest of the world by backing our currency as well and hopefully the example of thought that Steve Forbes is talking about above will be the case with our gov't and like Al Hodges' spoke about with those corrupt on Capital Hill will hopefully not be out of control as they most likely have been. By: jay_adobe 19 Oct 2005, 09:09 AM EDT Msg. 1170348 of 1171978 (This msg. is a reply to 1170318 by phatboy89.) Jump to msg. # phatboy, I fully and truly understand the emotions involved when the human defense mechanisms kick in. Most have been calloused to not look past the obvious, which is normal given the numerous highs and lows we all have been on over the past couple years. No one should believe and have faith in any poster on any message board. One learns to believe and have faith in people that are most like ourselves, our inner selves. What one must do, though, is to take a moment and step outside those defense mechanisms now and let oneself believe in the company, and what the company can accomplish. Yes, we have been calloused to not allow ourselves to dream the big dreams. Time to change that. Dream the big dreams. Research the big houses, the dream houses, the islands, vacations, cars, charities. Yes it is time to allow oneself to let our guards down and believe, once again, like we have done a few times in the past. For once you allow yourself to start dreaming again, you can research and be prepared to do what you must do when the time is right. I am going out on a tremendous limb here, and I am fully aware of that, as I cannot control unforeseen events. However, I fully believe that we are past the obstacles, and nothing can stop what is about to unfold. It has already begun to be publicly announced. The announcements will continue, the financial markets will continue to be cleansed, the transfer of wealth will finalize and continue. Prepare yourself to think bigger than you have thought in the past. Know that you deserve what is about to come your way. Did you hear me? You DESERVE what is about to come your way. Believe it and act accordingly. Maintain support groups and safety nets as this unfolds. Some are stronger than others and many will need to lean on each other. This shareholder base is probably the strongest on the planet. Congratulations to us all. We won. All thanks to the dream of Mr. Casavant. I will lurk. imo Anyway, a lot of opinions that go against the so called script and so on. A lot in this thread has its points of thought that help raise the questions of what really is? Because there are too many contradictions in thought the other way in my belief and thinking. Anyway, as I hear on the radio a lot for the Washington Post slogan: " If you don't get it, then you don't get it." The beauty of different beliefs and I respect all. This thread has mine! Take care and all the best. ------------------
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 31, 2014 8:23:33 GMT -5
Steve Forbes: How To Bring Back AmericaSubmitted by Tyler Durden on 07/07/2012 15:51 -0400 Steve Forbes has a message for a nation dominated by increasingly short-term decisions made on Wall Street and in Washington D.C., and by ever greater economic, financial and currency instability. As long as America continues moving away from sound money; away from sound financial and economic policies; and, ultimately, away from freedom, its future grows more dim. The dot-com and housing bubbles followed by the 2008 financial crisis and the most severe economic decline since the Great Depression serve as powerful lessons. A future of bigger government, higher taxes, more burdensome regulations, less consumer choice and more unrealistic government promises requires more and more Federal Reserve play money. Steve Forbes has a quintessentially American policy prescription rooted in American history. The answer to America’s economic problems is—and has always been—new wealth creation. New wealth creation doesn’t come from the government or from the Federal Reserve’s printing press. New wealth creation is what happens naturally with stable money based on the gold standard, lower taxes on individuals, a simplified tax code, reduced bureaucracy and free markets.Interview: Steve Forbes: How To Bring Back AmericaThe Hera Research Newsletter is pleased to present an incredibly powerful interview with Steve Forbes, Chairman and Editor-in-Chief of Forbes Media. The company’s flagship publication, FORBES, is the leading business magazine. Combined with international and licensee editions, FORBES reaches more than 6 million readers worldwide. The Forbes.com website is a leading destination for senior business decision-makers and investors with more than 30 million unique visitors per month. Hera Research Newsletter (HRN): Thank you for joining us today. With the U.S. economy struggling to recover from recession and financial crisis, what policies would you recommend? Steve Forbes: The only way to recover is to stabilize our money, have a gold backed dollar, simplified tax code and return to a free market.HRN: You advocate the gold standard? Steve Forbes: If there’s any better system to ensure a stable value for money, it’s yet to be found. For nearly all of America’s first 200 years, the dollar was linked to gold. Since we went off the gold standard, we’ve had more and more financial, economic and banking crises. For example, if the Federal Reserve hadn’t started to print so much money ten years ago, we wouldn’t have experienced the housing bust or the commodities boom or the sovereign debt crisis in Europe. Eventually, events become a persuasive teacher. HRN: Don’t we need a flexible money supply? Steve Forbes: That’s like saying that changing the number of minutes in an hour would be a great tool to increase productivity in the economy. Manipulating weights and measures, whether it’s the number of ounces in a pound or minutes in an hour, is a false way to think that you can achieve prosperity. All gold does is serve as a yardstick to measure the value of your currency.HRN: Doesn’t increasing the money supply help to stimulate the economy? Steve Forbes: The only way to increase prosperity is through innovation and productivity. Attempts to manipulate the value of money invariably fail. We’ve had numerous devaluations, and not once has it created lasting prosperity. HRN: Under the gold standard, would there still be a lender of last resort to backstop the banking system? Steve Forbes: The gold standard doesn’t prevent lending during a panic. The Bank of England pioneered acting as a lender of last resort in the 1860s under the gold standard. HRN: Wouldn’t the gold standard prevent financial innovation? Steve Forbes: No. Financial innovation has been with us for hundreds of years in terms of new financial instruments to meet expanding needs as the global economy becomes more complex. Many of the innovations of recent years, however, have come about in response to the instability of the dollar and other currencies, which has increased volatility in currency and commodity markets. New instruments have been designed either as insurance against volatility or to take advantage of it. If you had stable money, there would be much less hedging and financial speculation.HRN: Can governments function under the gold standard? Steve Forbes: Certain countries feel free to spend money whether they have it or not. Fiat money, which can just be printed up, has disguised the real cost. We would never have experienced the kind of government borrowing we’ve had in recent years if we’d had stable money. The gold standard would keep the government honest.HRN: Doesn’t government deficit spending smooth over recessions? Steve Forbes: The bottom line for the U.S. is that a weak dollar means a weak recovery. Stability is good for the economy. The simplest thing to do is to re-link the U.S. dollar to gold. HRN: Wouldn’t that tie the hands of the Federal Reserve? Steve Forbes: Tie their hands to do what, further harm to the economy? I don’t think that’s such a bad thing. HRN: Isn’t the price of gold volatile like other commodities? Steve Forbes: The reason to return to the gold standard is that gold maintains a stable, intrinsic value over time. Stable money meets all conditions. Gold doesn’t change in value. Currencies change in value. Gold is Polaris. HRN: How would re-linking the U.S. dollar to gold work? Steve Forbes: You simply peg the value of the dollar to gold. Let’s say, for argument’s sake, you peg the dollar to gold at $1,600 per ounce. If gold goes above $1,600, you tighten up on money creation. If it goes below $1,600, you ease up. You keep it around $1,600 by tightening or easing up on money creation. The gold standard doesn’t preclude a booming economy having more money or a stagnant economy having less money. HRN: Isn’t the gold standard deflationary? Steve Forbes: No. The gold standard is neither inflationary nor deflationary. It’s like the mile: There are 5,280 feet in a mile; it’s a fixed length. That doesn’t restrict the number of miles of highway you can build. Between 1776 and 1900 the U.S. grew from a small, agricultural nation of 2.5 million people to a nation of 76.2 million people, and it became the greatest industrial power on earth. The money supply went up about 160-fold while the dollar was pegged to gold. HRN: Wouldn’t the gold standard severely limit leverage in the financial system? Steve Forbes: If you’re a worthy borrower, you can borrow at the market interest rate; if you’re an unworthy borrower, you have to pay a higher interest rate or you can’t get money. The gold standard would have prevented the wild lending and money creation we’ve experienced in the last few years, which has led to disaster. You can see it in the housing bubble and in the European government debt bubble. None of these things could have happened had we had stable money. HRN: Is the Utah Legal Tender Act, which makes gold and silver legal in Utah, helpful? Steve Forbes: I’m in favor of the states trying to get away from the Federal Reserve’s play-money approach. The key is for the next President to institute a gold-linked dollar policy. HRN: Do competing currencies make sense? Steve Forbes: The idea of a parallel currency is a perfectly good one. People would come to prefer a dollar based on gold rather than a dollar based on politicians. HRN: Do you also suggest using silver as money? Steve Forbes: The Chinese and other cultures have used silver as money, but silver doesn’t maintain its value the way gold does. Over time it takes more silver to buy an ounce of gold. About 120 years ago it took 15 ounces of silver to buy 1 ounce of gold. Today it takes more than 50 ounces. That’s why the U.S. moved away from a bi-metallic standard to the gold standard. One metal becomes more valuable than the other at different times. Silver is better than fiat money, but there’s only one gold standard. HRN: Would the gold standard help the U.S. economy to recover? Steve Forbes: In the 1980s, when we had very high unemployment and a stagnant economy, the way out was through a strong dollar, lower income taxes, entrepreneurship and new wealth creation. Remember, the values of assets go up when people see a future. They don’t today.HRN: We didn’t have the gold standard in the 1980s. Steve Forbes: Ronald Reagan killed the terrible inflation of the 1970s and sharply reduced income tax rates. Reagan wanted a return to the gold standard, but none of his advisors believed in it. Inflation was effectively killed by high interest rates. Deregulation was pushed forward, and America roared. In 1982, the Dow bottomed at 776; over the next 18 years it went up 18-fold. HRN: You advocate cutting taxes? Steve Forbes: Yes, and we should put in a flat tax. The advantage of the flat tax is that it enables people to focus on real things. Abraham Lincoln’s Gettysburg Address, which defines the character of the American nation, is all of 272 words. The Declaration of Independence is a little more than 1,300 words. The Constitution of the United States and all of its amendments are a little more than 7,000 words. The Bible, which took centuries to put together, is a mere 773,000 words. The U.S. federal income tax code—with all of its cross-references, descriptions of amendments and effective dates—is probably now in excess of 4,000,000 words. Nobody knows what’s in it. Last year the IRS announced that Americans spent 6.1 billion hours filling out tax forms and $300 billion on tax preparation. This is a huge waste of resources and brain power. Not to mention that it’s a corrupting influence. It’s a huge source of government power, and it brings out the worst in us. The sooner we get simplicity—and a flat tax would give us that—the more energy we can devote to productive pursuits. HRN: How could the U.S. transition to a flat-tax system? Steve Forbes: Since people get hung up on their deductions, we would institute a flat tax and give people the option of filing either under the new, simple system or the old, horrific system. If you’re a masochist and want to punish yourself, you can file under the old income tax system. If you want the simplified one, you can go with that. I think 99% of Americans, out of sheer convenience, would quickly switch to the new system.HRN: You mentioned deregulation. How would that help the U.S. economy? Steve Forbes: Take health care, for example. We don’t have a free market in health care. There’s a disconnect between patients and health care providers. If you go to a hospital and ask how much something costs they’ll look at you strangely because they think you’re either uninsured or a lunatic. How many hospitals put the prices of procedures on their websites? It’s like going into a restaurant and having no idea how much anything on the menu costs. It’s a crazy system. HRN: How would you go about deregulating health care? Steve Forbes: First, we should repeal the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act—Obamacare—which is an abomination. Patients should have more choice. The insurance companies don’t compete freely for business. We should allow people to shop nationwide for health insurance. I live in New Jersey, which has a lot of senseless regulations. Why can’t I buy a health insurance policy in Pennsylvania that costs less? We should equalize the tax treatment of health care expenses. If you’re a business or are self-employed, you should be able to deduct the expense. And individuals should be free to go into the market and pay with after-tax dollars. We should make it easier for small businesses to form a collective to buy health insurance. There are a lot of simple things that could be done. HRN: Do free markets really work? Steve Forbes: Free markets, with sensible rules of the road, can do all the things that big government advocates say the government does but that it really can’t do. Free markets enable people to move out of poverty and break down barriers between ethnic groups and between nations. Free markets increase cooperation and foster a sense of humanity. Everything that big government says it will do, you get more from free markets than from government bureaucracies. Which one has a better future, FedEx or the U.S. Post Office? Do you want food stamps or paychecks? Big government makes a lot of promises, but it’s short sighted. Government is about meeting its own needs at the expense of the nation, and it’s immoral. Free markets have gotten a bad rap, which happens to be the subject of my new book. HRN: The Federal Reserve recently announced that it will extend its “Operation Twist” program by $267 billion through the end of 2012. Will that help the U.S. economy? Steve Forbes: No. The more Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke messes up, the more he’s hailed as a savior. The Federal Reserve’s programs—quantitative easing 1 and 2 and Operation Twist—are just fancy words for printing up more money. It’s a bunch of smoke and mirrors. They’ve done a lot of damage already, and they’re continuing to. What they’re doing is dangerous. Not only has the Federal Reserve created a lot of money and vastly expanded its balance sheet but, along with the U.S. Department of Treasury, it has dramatically shortened the maturity of U.S. government debt. HRN: What do you mean when you say that the Federal Reserve has done a lot of damage? Steve Forbes: By keeping interest rates artificially low, Chairman Ben Bernanke is cheapening the dollar, which punishes savers and harms future investment. It distorts financial markets and misdirects investments into things like creating the housing bubble. It subsidizes government borrowing at the expense of the rest of us. It’s the equivalent of a cut in pay for workers. Let’s say you’re earning $20 per hour and the government cheapens the dollar; then, in effect, you’re making $15 per hour. It violates contracts and undermines social trust. HRN: What should Chairman Bernanke do instead? Steve Forbes: Other than resign, Chairman Bernanke should realize that the gold standard works and that when you deviate from it, you create more and more uncertainty. He should re-link the dollar to gold. Doctors used to treat patients by bleeding them. Bernanke just keeps bleeding the economy. HRN: Thank you for being so generous with your time. Steve Forbes: Thank you. Hera Research, LLC, provides deeply researched analysis to help investors profit from changing economic and market conditions. Hera Research focuses on relationships between macroeconomics, government, banking, and financial markets in order to identify and analyze investment opportunities with extraordinary upside potential. Hera Research is currently researching mining and metals including precious metals, oil and energy including green energy, agriculture, and other natural resources. The Hera Research Newsletter covers key economic data, trends and analysis including reviews of companies with extraordinary value and upside potential. www.zerohedge.com/news/steve-forbes-how-bring-back-america
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 31, 2014 8:24:45 GMT -5
jo super admin Posts: 6,556 (This is an abbreviated segment of an article previously posted in this thread, but such a good one!)
www.silverdoctors.com/jim-willie-the-climax-finale-of-the-petro-dollar-to-arrive-in-2014/ JIM WILLIE: THE CLIMAX FINALE OF THE PETRO-DOLLAR TO ARRIVE IN 2014!
APRIL 26, 2014 BY THE DOC 46 COMMENTS Some significant events are extremely likely to occur soon, which will change the American and Western landscape permanently. The confidence in the system will vanish quickly. The gold investors will be given a bolstered hope and much encouragement. The changes will hit like a storm, slow at first, the process already having begun. The storm will accelerate, the time between highly disruptive events to quicken. The protection is with Gold & Silver bars & coins. The solution is not to be found at the doorstep of central banks, since they are the perpetrators of the systemic ruin. They escape prosecution since they appoint the prosecutors. The solution is a return to the Gold Standard, the introduction of new gold-backed currencies, the installation of new banking systems instead of SWIFT, and the construction of free trade zones. They will all be put in place, led by the Eastern superpowers. The Gold Trade Standard will return. The following are some likely actual change agent factors, agents, and events, which could happen before year 2014 ends. 2014 will not end as it began.
(full article at link and above in this thread).
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 31, 2014 8:25:34 GMT -5
jo
super admin Posts: 6,557 Russia Announces Decoupling Trade From Dollar China will re-open the old Silk Road as a new trading route linking Germany, Russia and China
www.informationclearinghouse.info/article38165.htm By Peter Koenig April 08, 2014 "ICH" - Russia has just dropped another bombshell, announcing not only the de-coupling of its trade from the dollar, but also that its hydrocarbon trade will in the future be carried out in rubles and local currencies of its trading partners – no longer in dollars – see Voice of Russia Russia’s trade in hydrocarbons amounts to about a trillion dollars per year. Other countries, especially the BRICS and BRCIS-associates (BRICSA) may soon follow suit and join forces with Russia, abandoning the ‘petro-dollar’ as trading unit for oil and gas. This could amount to tens of trillions in loss for demand of petro-dollars per year (US GDP about 17 trillion dollars – December 2013) – leaving an important dent in the US economy would be an understatement.Added to this is the declaration today by Russia’s Press TV – China will re-open the old Silk Road as a new trading route linking Germany, Russia and China, allowing to connect and develop new markets along the road, especially in Central Asia, where this new project will bring economic and political stability, and in Western China provinces,where “New Areas” of development will be created. The first one will be the Lanzhou New Area in China’s Northwestern Gansu Province, one of China’s poorest regions.“During his visit to Duisburg, Chinese President Xi Jinping made a master stroke of economic diplomacy that runs directly counter to the Washington neo-conservative faction’s effort to bring a new confrontation between NATO and Russia.” (press TV, April 6, 2014) “Using the role of Duisburg as the world’s largest inland harbor, an historic transportation hub of Europe and of Germany’s Ruhr steel industry center, he proposed that Germany and China cooperate on building a new “economic Silk Road” linking China and Europe. The implications for economic growth across Eurasia are staggering.” Curiously, western media have so far been oblivious to both events. It seems like a desire to extending the falsehood of our western illusion and arrogance – as long as the silence will bear. Germany, the economic driver of Europe – the world’s fourth largest economy (US$ 3.6 trillion GDP) – on the western end of the new trading axis, will be like a giant magnet, attracting other European trading partners of Germany’s to the New Silk Road. What looks like a future gain for Russia and China, also bringing about security and stability, would be a lethal loss for Washington. In addition, the BRICS are preparing to launch a new currency – composed by a basket of their local currencies – to be used for international trading, as well as for a new reserve currency, replacing the rather worthless debt ridden dollar – a welcome feat for the world.Along with the new BRICS(A) currency will come a new international payment settlement system, replacing the SWIFT and IBAN exchanges, thereby breaking the hegemony of the infamous privately owned currency and gold manipulator, the Bank for International Settlement (BIS) in Basle, Switzerland – also called the central bank of all central banks.To be sure – the BIS is a privately owned for profit institution, was created in the early 1930’s, in the midst of the big economic melt-down of the 20th Century. The BIS was formed precisely for that purpose – to control the world’s monetary system, along with the also privately owned FED and the Wall Street Banksters – the epitome of private unregulated ownership. The BIS is known to hold at least half a dozen secret meetings per year, attended by the world’s elite, deciding the fate of countries and entire populations. Their demise would be another welcome new development. As the new trading road and monetary system will take hold, other countries and nations, so far in the claws of US dependence, will flock to the ‘new system’, gradually isolating Washington’s military industrial economy (sic) and its NATO killing machine. This Economic Sea Change may bring the empire to its knees, without spilling a drop of blood. An area of new hope for justice and more equality, a rebirth of sovereign states, may dawn and turn the spiral of darkness into a spiral of light.Peter Koenig is an economist and former World Bank staff. He worked extensively around the world in the fields of environment and water resources.
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Post by Duc N Altum on May 31, 2014 8:27:01 GMT -5
rett DIAMOND JEDI Posts: 911
ftmdaily.com/preparing-for-the-collapse-of-the-petrodollar-system/
ftmdaily.com/preparing-for-the-collapse-of-the-petrodollar-part-2/
ftmdaily.com/preparing-for-the-collapse-of-the-petrodollar-system-part-3/
ftmdaily.com/preparing-for-the-collapse-of-the-petrodollar-system-part-4/
This article gives a very good insight into the Petrodollar and what the US is prepaired to do in order to protect it. The article also shows that the dollar is doomed in the not so distant future, which will create inflation, which in turn will create higher interest rates. The DERIVATIVES monster will come knocking; Jay Adobe was correct again.
Rett.
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