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Post by e362 on Apr 1, 2016 6:01:03 GMT -5
that would be trump, cruz or kaisich......i do believe they all have our best interests at heart. I'm more of an independent type voter as I prefer to look at all sides and not just one parties views as they both have some good ideas. But in this campaign I am all in for Trump. He is the anti politician that we need. Putting the same "families" in power keeps us on the hamster wheel. Simply seeing the media continue to try to crush him tells me the powers that control things right now are very scared of losing their control and that is enough for me. I think he has Christie at his side for his political/legal experience and contacts which cant hurt. Hillary simply cannot be trusted, watching her Benghazi questioning and responses still turns my stomach and how she hasn't been charged in regards to the email scandal after the military general got destroyed for less is an embarrassment. Sanders. all though he is getting large crowds simply cannot pull off what he is promising and the young give me free stuff crowd simply doesn't understand. Its time for hard truths, not the political correctness that has gotten this country soft. Trump, imho, is the only one that is stating hard truths that too many people think but because of the pussification of America are afraid to say.
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Post by vulcanized crawler on Apr 1, 2016 9:14:19 GMT -5
good analysis e362, pussification of america along with political correctness the past ten years makes america the laughing stock and detremental to everything we do. releasing terrorists that then have turned around and killed americans again, is unforgivable. making lying the standard that far exceeds any governmental lying of the past can not remain the standard for the future. it's time to take our country back again and stop giving away the ranch to mostly our enemies it seems and giving the back of our hand to our allies. with good guidance and advisors, trump can do that as did reagan, another anti-establishment actor/politician. my fear is that like the only three anti establishment candidates for president, from both democrat and republican parties, (lincolin, kennedy, reagan)...all three have taken a bullet, with but one surviving. the rose tinted glasses are not in place and those who lose power and influence do not go gently into the goodnight easily. retreating to the barracks is not their way, except perhaps to reload.
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Post by cessation on Apr 1, 2016 9:24:47 GMT -5
I'm a bit surprised at a few things said by e362. I'm not sure exactly why you think Sanders can't pull off what he is promising. I have not seen any plans as thoroughly thought out and clear as his. When I had last checked Trump had only 4 issues on his website listed without plans to rectify them(Admittedly that was around a month or 2 ago) I'm not saying they would be easy however at least Sanders has them. Also I wouldn't just jump to the conclusion that all the "young" just want free stuff. It's not about getting free stuff. Sanders doesn't believe that you should have to be in debt to learn. I completely agree with this. The same goes with Hospital stays. Shouldn't go into massive debt for crap like that. I should know, just got my newborn home from an 11 week stay at a childrens hospital after being born. He is doing much better but if I had not had insurance I'd be in 700k worth of debt right now. Like I had said previously if Hillary wins the nom then I'm completely leaning on Trump over Hillary no question. There is a reason Sanders does so well with the younger crowd and it's because he is for the people. Last night I saw a video of Trump saying he is in favor of keeping prison for profit. That's really F'ed up and cant continue. The same goes for a lot of items on Sanders list. He knows the issues and has good plans for all of them.
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Post by portrush on Apr 1, 2016 9:42:44 GMT -5
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Post by e362 on Apr 1, 2016 9:49:59 GMT -5
I'm a bit surprised at a few things said by e362. I'm not sure exactly why you think Sanders can't pull off what he is promising. I have not seen any plans as thoroughly thought out and clear as his. When I had last checked Trump had only 4 issues on his website listed without plans to rectify them(Admittedly that was around a month or 2 ago) I'm not saying they would be easy however at least Sanders has them. Also I wouldn't just jump to the conclusion that all the "young" just want free stuff. It's not about getting free stuff. Sanders doesn't believe that you should have to be in debt to learn. I completely agree with this. The same goes with Hospital stays. Shouldn't go into massive debt for crap like that. I should know, just got my newborn home from an 11 week stay at a childrens hospital after being born. He is doing much better but if I had not had insurance I'd be in 700k worth of debt right now. Like I had said previously if Hillary wins the nom then I'm completely leaning on Trump over Hillary no question. There is a reason Sanders does so well with the younger crowd and it's because he is for the people. Last night I saw a video of Trump saying he is in favor of keeping prison for profit. That's really F'ed up and cant continue. The same goes for a lot of items on Sanders list. He knows the issues and has good plans for all of them. cessation, I respect your thoughts and pray your child is healthy now, no one should worry about the cost of healthcare or education imo, as I am sending a child thru college right now. Here is just one of the many articles questioning Bernies plan. www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2016/02/12/how-bernie-sanders-wont-pay-for-his-proposals/#54b4b508200d
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Apr 1, 2016 10:27:05 GMT -5
We all know these guys can talk until they are blue in the face.. It all means nothing until congress get's a hold of it. Look at Mr. O-Care. They Ripped out page by page to get it right and they still don't have it right.. That's one of the reasons I like Sanders. It was good to have Mr. O. put it on the plate, now the next guy should be able to update it. Medical is something we all need and we shouldn't have to pay a penalty because we can't afford it. Free and a 2.2% tax hike is good for me. Clinton wants nothing to do with Mr. O-care Policy.. She wants to keep it the way it is..
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Post by cessation on Apr 1, 2016 11:30:36 GMT -5
Thanks for the link portrush. May need some help understanding it though. Most of what I can see is that the much wealthier people would pay more taxes. I believe this right here would apply to me. Creates a new 2.2 percent “income-based [health care] premium paid by households.” This is equivalent to increasing all tax bracket rates by 2.2 percentage points, and would raise the top marginal income tax rate to 54.2 percent. Since my out of pocket maximum is 6% of my total yearly income is 3600 which I have to pay for last year since my son was born Dec 28th and then I have another 3600 out of pocket maximum for 2016 for his time in the Nucu I'd be happy to pay just 2.2%. Perhaps my math here is completely wrong and I can fully admit that and would be completely open to understanding it better if someone was willing.
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Post by cessation on Apr 1, 2016 11:40:33 GMT -5
Since we are on this does anyone know where trump stands on the following issues?
INCOME AND WEALTH INEQUALITY IT'S TIME TO MAKE COLLEGE TUITION FREE AND DEBT FREE GETTING BIG MONEY OUT OF POLITICS AND RESTORING DEMOCRACY CREATING DECENT PAYING JOBS A LIVING WAGE COMBATING CLIMATE CHANGE TO SAVE THE PLANET A FAIR AND HUMANE IMMIGRATION POLICY RACIAL JUSTICE FIGHTING FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS WORKING TO CREATE AN AIDS AND HIV-FREE GENERATION FIGHTING FOR LGBT EQUALITY EMPOWERING TRIBAL NATIONS CARING FOR OUR VETERANS MEDICARE FOR ALL STRENGTHEN AND EXPAND SOCIAL SECURITY FIGHTING TO LOWER PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICES FIGHTING FOR DISABILITY RIGHTS SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS' PLAN FOR PUERTO RICO SUPPORTING HISTORICALLY BLACK COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES FIGHTING FOR THE RIGHTS OF NATIVE HAWAIIANS IMPROVING THE RURAL ECONOMY FIGHTING FOR NURSES REFORMING WALL STREET REAL FAMILY VALUES WAR AND PEACE WAR SHOULD BE THE LAST OPTION: WHY I SUPPORT THE IRAN DEAL MAKING THE WEALTHY, WALL STREET, AND LARGE CORPORATIONS PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE
I see 6 items on his website but I dont see any plans or even a tax plan for that matter.
I'm geniously curious and interested to know as he very well is most likely to become president. Once again I'll admit I havent done as much research on DT so I'll do that. Bernie's issues just resonate with me. Hearing about trump think Climate change is made up by the Chinese as well as being for prison profit really doesnt make me happy though.
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Post by portrush on Apr 1, 2016 11:59:57 GMT -5
Focusing only on a 2.2% tax increase for health care that may end up on par with Canada or the UK is to maintain blinders on the total effect of his position on taxes. I have an aversion to paying higher taxes of any sort--much less paying them twice while I'm alive and having my assets taxed again when I pass. A reduction in GDP is not advancing our country. I won't belabor the issue nor submit further comment--I'm not one to argue politics. But I will say...if anyone hopes and wishes that this little CMKX adventure one day becomes fruitful (and I assume you do since you're here)...then this tax plan devastates your ability to affect positive change for any area you wish to impact. Nothing is free. Nothing. Someone pays for it somewhere. I've already paid into Government programs for which I may never realize the return of my money as promised...paying more makes no sense.
pr--out.
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Post by John Winston Lennon O'Boogie on Apr 1, 2016 12:15:59 GMT -5
Again, we pay more taxes because of Lobbyists. Who in this election campaign is not taking hand outs to help with their campaign..? I'm sure Trump will look at all the wasted Programs that are taking our tax money and giving back nothing. Do away with most and you have a good tax system. Maybe even have a free medical system with no 2.2% sometime down the road..
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Post by 2018 on Apr 3, 2016 11:22:45 GMT -5
Bernie Sanders is the only one, out of all presidential candidates willing to take on Wall Street and make changes after we had Financial Meltdown in 2008.
Bernie Sanders @berniesanders · Mar 31 We can't have a safe & sound financial system if the same agencies rating Wall Street's products are making their profits from Wall Street.
Bernie is the only one intent on bringing back the Steagal Glass law .. which was taken out, but prevented the merging of the banks that became Too big to fail. Nobody else.. had the honesty or courage.. to deal with this.. and they have all been bought, except Bernie Sanders.
Bernie Sanders @berniesanders · Mar 30 This country can no longer afford to tolerate the culture of fraud and corruption on Wall Street.
Bernie Sanders @berniesanders · Mar 30 I've been criticized for my big ideas. You know what wasn't too pie-in-the-sky for my opponent? $700 billion to bailout Wall Street in 2008.
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Post by 2018 on Apr 3, 2016 11:26:38 GMT -5
act.credoaction.com/sign/2015breakupbanksStand with Bernie Sanders: Tell Congress to break up too-big-to-fail banks Petition to Congress: "Commit to voting for the 'Too Big to Fail, Too Big to Exist' Act, introduced in the Senate by Bernie Sanders, and finally break up the too-big-to-fail banks." Stand with Bernie Sanders: Tell Congress to break up too-big-to-fail banks If Senator Bernie Sanders gets his way, Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase are going to end up in pieces.
Seven years after their criminal fraud nearly collapsed the global economy and they came crawling to the rest of us for a bailout, too-big-to-fail banks are actually 80 percent bigger than they once were.1 Today, they pose an even greater threat to our financial system. The risky gambling and deceptive speculation continues. Wall Street reform has imposed new rules, but it hasn’t changed the game. Last week, Senator Sanders introduced a bill to end “too big to fail” once and for all.2 Now it is up to us to show the rest of Congress that it is time to break up the biggest banks.Stand with Bernie Sanders: Tell Congress to break up too-big-to-fail banks. The 2010 Dodd-Frank Wall Street reform law added new oversight, new rules, and most importantly created new institutions like the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, but it didn’t go far enough. Today, the biggest banks are bigger than ever, they can borrow money at lower rates because the market assumes we will bail them out, and their reckless behavior continues. In just the past few years, large financial institutions have been caught rigging interest rates, manipulating foreign exchange rates, selling people misleading financial products, facilitating tax evasion and money laundering, and more.3 The expansion of high-frequency, algorithmic speculation and front-running has increased risks. In the “flash crash” of 2010, the Dow Jones Industrial Average dropped nearly 1,000 points in just minutes before rapidly recovering.4 In 2008, we were told that the American people had no choice but to provide $700 billion in taxpayer bailouts – not to mention the Federal Reserve’s $16 trillion in near-zero interest loans – because if the largest financial institutions failed, they would drag the rest of the system down with them. But if the biggest banks have only gotten bigger, what will we do when the next crisis strikes? As Sanders said introducing his bill, “If an institution is too big to fail, it is too big to exist.”5 Stand with Bernie Sanders: Tell Congress to break up too-big-to-fail banks. Sanders’ “Too Big to Fail, Too Big to Exist Act,” and its companion bill in the House introduced by Rep. Brad Sherman, would direct the government to compile a list of systemically important financial institutions, just as Dodd-Frank did. But it would also direct the Secretary of the Treasury to break up those institutions within one year, and ban them all from receiving special help from the Federal Reserve or gambling with federally-insured deposits. Under this bill, JPMorgan Chase, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, and Morgan Stanley would all be broken up.6 It wasn’t long ago that trust-busting and breaking up monopolies was considered common sense. We broke up the telecom giants as recently as the 1980’s. And today, Sanders’ bill is supported by the Independent Community Bankers of America.7 But too many members of Congress are still scared to confront Wall Street, so we need to show that countless Americans stand with Bernie Sanders and demand that too-big-to-fail banks be broken up. Stand with Bernie Sanders: Tell Congress to break up too-big-to-fail banks. Thank you for speaking out. 1.Senator Bernie Sanders, “Break Up Big Banks,” Huffington Post, May 7, 2015. 2.“Sanders Files Bill to Break Up Big Banks,” Sanders.Senate.Gov, May 6, 2015. 3.“Five other banking scandals since 2008,” 4 News, February 9, 2015. 4.Scott Gamm, “'Flash Crash' of 2010 Is History but Stock Markets Are Still Vulnerable," The Street, May 6, 2015. 5.“Sanders Files Bill to Break Up Big Banks.” 6.Ibid. 7.Senator Sanders, “Break Up Big Banks.” act.credoaction.com/sign/2015breakupbanks
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Post by 2018 on Apr 3, 2016 11:38:17 GMT -5
berniesanders.com/issues/reforming-wall-street/Reforming Wall Street - Bernie Sanders Twitter Facebook Email Link Wall Street cannot continue to be an island unto itself, gambling trillions in risky financial decisions while expecting the public to bail it out. It is time to break up the largest financial institutions in the country.
The six largest financial institutions in this country today hold assets equal to about 60% of the nation’s gross domestic product. These six banks issue more than two-thirds of all credit cards and over 35% of all mortgages. They control 95% of all derivatives and hold more than 40% of all bank deposits in the United States.
We must break up too-big-to-fail financial institutions. Those institutions received a $700 billion bailout from the US taxpayer, and more than $16 trillion in virtually zero interest loans from the Federal Reserve. Despite that, financial institutions made over $152 billion in profit in 2014 – the most profitable year on record, and three of the four largest financial institutions are 80% bigger today than they were before we bailed them out.
Our banking system must be part of the productive, job-creating economy. The Federal Reserve, a government entity which serves as the engine of the banking industry, must eliminate its internal conflicts of interest, provide stricter oversight, and insist that the banks serve the economy in a way that works for everyone, not just a few.If a bank is too big to fail, it is too big to exist.
These institutions have acquired too much economic and political power, endangering our economy and our political process.
KEY ACTIONS Introduced the “Too Big to Fail, Too Big to Exist Act,” which would break up the big banks and prohibit any too-big-to-fail institutions from accessing the Federal Reserve’s discount facilities or using insured deposits for risky activities.
Led the fight in 1999 defending Glass-Steagall provisions which prevented banks (especially “too big to fail” ones) from gambling with customers’ money, and currently is a co-sponsor of the Elizabeth Warren/John McCain bill to reinstate those provisions.
Has proposed a financial transaction tax which will reduce risky and unproductive high-speed trading and other forms of Wall Street speculation; proceeds would be used to provide debt-free public college education. Is co-sponsoring Sen. Tammy Baldwin’s bill to end Wall Street’s practice of paying big bonuses to bank executives who take senior-level government jobs.
Introduced a tax on Wall Street speculation to make public colleges and universities tuition-free Supports capping credit card interest rates at 15%.
Sponsored an amendment calling for an audit the Federal Reserve. The audit found that far more had been spent in the Wall Street bailout than previously disclosed, and that considerable funds had been spent to bail out foreign corporations.
Warned about the risks of deregulation eight years before the fiscal crisis of 2008. Has proposed limiting the ability of bankers to get rich from taxpayer bailouts of their institutions
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Apr 3, 2016 17:39:42 GMT -5
Still Report #758 - Trump: Massive Recession Looms!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Apr 4, 2016 8:14:10 GMT -5
So, I wake up this morning and I have to hear about these obnoxious disrespectful "people" (so not to curse this am) ..... stomping and jumping on the American Flag !! The protestors "Fxxx the Flag"....... are a disgrace...... If you/they cannot or will not respect the flag, of this country, than....... GET THE HELL OUT !!
Here is one, of those "people", that deserves everything she gets....... Karma is a bi*ch !!
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