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Post by JoeRockss on Jan 2, 2008 20:06:53 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: mclt_jing 02 Jan 2008, 01:13 PM EST Msg. 639972 of 639975 (This msg. is a reply to 639969 by calvinwinters.) Jump to msg. # Hey Cal It is not a guess as much as it is a logical deduction. We will not trade again until the assets are back in the company. Until the claims against Emerson Koch are settled or otherwise resolved via a judgment of some court, then the company won't be able to trade. How can you qualify to get on any exchange without assets? If Koch still has our assets, we need to get them back first. Focus on that particular necessity before expecting to see us trading again. ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=639972
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Post by JoeRockss on Jan 2, 2008 20:07:57 GMT -5
soonerlew Diamond Wiz (Moderator) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: hooked722 02 Jan 2008, 10:57 AM EST Msg. 639912 of 639976 (This msg. is a reply to 639908 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # Nothing is ever clear here. Why did UC appoint Kevin CEO and agree to pay him 10K a month when there were no funds? Kevin had been screaming about the NSS so did UC just say take it and see what you can do or was it just a cover to allow UC time to hide the money and flee the country? There must be something there for other people to put up money to keep this going. Hopefully 2008 will end this saga one way or the other. We may get some of our money back but I don't feel there is some big pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. - - - - - ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=639912
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Post by JoeRockss on Jan 2, 2008 20:36:58 GMT -5
sooner, you're doing one hell of a job with this rumor thread...As soon as I get my pc back, I'll be around more to help out....
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 2, 2008 21:47:19 GMT -5
sooner, you're doing one hell of a job with this rumor thread...As soon as I get my pc back, I'll be around more to help out.... Aw, shucks, Joe.....Thanks!!
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 2, 2008 22:06:44 GMT -5
By: tuscan9 02 Jan 2008, 06:41 PM EST Msg. 640104 of 640191 Jump to msg. # and the Beat goes ON.... cmkm shareholders along with about 20 plus other companies have been all eyes for years now on the issue that confronted their companies and the NSS pull of their certificates. All the makings of a huge movie have been scripted on the pages of the Internet as this EVENT has escalated over the months that went into years. Companie's have seen threats and attempted deaths (and deaths) within the ranks of their employee lists. Brave CEO's and others have fought to have the issue brought to the SEC and the Public eye of the normal folk. All along the Media has been 'held back' from making too much of a issue of the Fraud, crookedness, terroristic flagrant stealing of the public monies in the investing world by those in high places sitting in the Ivory Towers with the capability to have monies cross NO Ledgers. Papertrails have been evident as we watch small stories leak out quietly on the internal, deep shadows of the internet...awaiting a day when they can be pulled out and used as 'Proof' that 'Someone' was 'On the Job' and attempting to clean up the market for years. Well, imo, we have hit the time when talk will again prevail about Hearings on Criminal acts acted out for decades by Banking Centres on the World Scene.... with some enactment of sincerity tied to the fruitless endeavor..... that will become ongoing in the months to come. Pointing fingers..Shredders working overtime...Night lights in the back offices... Fires in the strangest places... Wide-eyed folks claiming they have been framed...NO, wait a minute, has anyone heard that statement coming from any of the CEO's CFO's. COO's that have left their positions? For some reason they just walk out of their offices with No comment of 'Unjust accusation' and go home. (and most likely slam the door and pull the curtains) The '08 year is on its way with EVENTS happening so fast out of the shot of the first of the year that for some reason...?? ... the Media doesn't seem to be UP on all the Latest news. They will have to catch their breath and 'Get a grip' because this year is not only going to be WILD for the poor, normal folk that are trying to make ends meet...but, also for (imo) those in their Ivory Towers of the World. EVENTS........EVENTS and more EVENTS to occur... with the speed of a runaway locomotive. The Global Events that tie all the Greed together... and put some all in the same Heap of 'you know what' is in front of all to see now... and if a person doesn't see it... just stay tuned.. All the above is just my opinion... with a little help from the REAL PLAYERS on the GLOBAL SCENE. T ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=640104
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 2, 2008 22:08:30 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 02 Jan 2008, 07:03 PM EST Msg. 640113 of 640191 (This msg. is a reply to 640104 by tuscan9.) Jump to msg. # tuscan and everyone else supporting the idea of a HUGE naked short. how do we know there is a NSS? i've always thought there was one but that notion was based on "evidence" from the dividend ratios reported for the share dividends back in 2004. given all of the craaap we have seen these past four years i now think those ratios could have been false. why not? so many other things have been false and so many of us have argued exactly that. why couldn't those dividend ratios have been manipulated as well? i now no longer think we have a 700 billion short. frankly, i don't care. really, who cares? and what difference does it make? let's get back to trading first! let's get some assets and some cash and then if there is a HUGE short then GREAT! but if there isn't it won't make any difference because we will at least be back to trading and the stock will be worth something since we will have some claims! so stop with the NSS shiiiit and let's support kevin and bill in their efforts to get those claims back and some cash and then let's get back to trading! at this point nothing else really matters. the last thing the bashers want us to do is to get back to trading. if you want to stick it to the bad guys,,, whoever there are,,, let's support any and all efforts to get our stock back on the OTC-BB. that will be the worse thing we can do to them. support kevin and bill and tell then we want them to cut through the bullshiiiit and move forward against anyone they believe opposes the CMKX investor! we deserve no less. ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=640113
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 2, 2008 22:09:26 GMT -5
By: notagolfer0 02 Jan 2008, 10:00 PM EST Msg. 640190 of 640191 (This msg. is a reply to 640113 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # rosencrantz, what are you saying?, we deserve a lot more! We can't just start trading again without taking care of the NSS. A R/S and back to the OTCBB would certainly not correct the problem or EVER get the shorts to even CONSIDER settling anytime soon in the future, if EVER! When you write something off, it's gone. Certainly the SEC has taken this all into consideration, if no R/S and nothing settled, then they will be the ones with the liability on the open market. I don't think they want that responsibility. If KW & Frizzell decide to take matters in their own hands and trade regardless, geeeeezzzzzz, what a bad move. I will never believe that the SEC would allow us to trade again unsettled. Why would Bill and KW even want to do a R/S if they know already we have shorts who need to cover. It doesn't make sense yet completely but then again, we haven't really heard it all from Tyler. Their true plan is still not out there. ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=640190
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 2, 2008 22:12:34 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 02 Jan 2008, 09:48 PM EST Msg. 640183 of 640191 (This msg. is a reply to 640143 by bigfork2.) Jump to msg. # bigfork2, you are right. the assets of CMKX belong to CMKX. that is the law. the tyler group knows that, stocklein knows it and so does the court. the only ones that don't know it are the people you are talking to. the tyler group cannot through the courts take away company assets. that's the law. we (CMKX) get the claims, not the lawyers. you are being misled and as such being used to oppose what kevin and bill are trying to do for us. read the latest court filing (12-24) and see what the company gets and then what the lawyers are asking for. they are two different things. the lawyers (bill frizzell and the other law firms helping us file) only want to be paid their rate. the court will divy that out if we win. the lawyers aren't asking for part of the company's claims. the lawyers are doing work on our behalf. either way you figure it, we need the lawyers to get this done. either urban is a crook and we need to go after him or the tyler group is working for urban and helping him win back the company. ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=640183
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 2, 2008 22:14:46 GMT -5
By: bigfork2 02 Jan 2008, 07:55 PM EST Msg. 640143 of 640191 (This msg. is a reply to 640113 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # Rosencrantz, "...so stop with the NSS shiiiit and let's support kevin and bill in their efforts to get those claims back and some cash and then let's get back to trading! at this point nothing else really matters..." First, I believe the NSS issue is of supreme importance, not only to CMKX, but to all the other affected companies. Naked shorting in the market place has now been well documented. It exists, it's illegal and the crooks need to go to jail. Second, with regard to the claims, pursuant to the CMKM / Entourage agreement, the claims belong to the shareholders of CMKM, not to the Tyler Group. The Tyler Group has an empty shell. Why do you think Donald Stocklein won't give them the Entourage Cert? Why do you think Entourage is trying to prevent the Tyler Group from getting it? Bigfork ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=640143
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 2, 2008 22:26:13 GMT -5
go2guy Due Diligence Analyst member is offline Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 418 Karma: 18 [ Exalt | Smite ] Re: Andy knew!!! « Reply #3 on Yesterday at 5:15pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is the Investor Relations PROFESSIONAL's actual post Dec 29, 2007, 8:32pm, oaks wrote:Well, if CMKX was merely a method for the insiders to live at the casinos, etc. for a couple of years and then it was all over, then the LOGIC of it escapes me. Whether they did or not, I have no idea as it is merely conjecture. Nor do the trading records specifically implicate or make any of the insiders guilty of anything. When I asked Urban (during 2005) about the letters of opinion making the shares free trading, he simply said it was for work or investment in CMKX longer than 2 years previous and those people were entitled to get paid or compensated accordingly. The explanation at the time was satisfactory to me and I saw nothing wrong with the recipients selling their shares if they so chose. Oaks (aimho) Clearly Andy knew of the dillution and insider dealing way back then and decided to keep on pumping. Give us that Foggy Forest line again Andy! He's trying to distance himself from all of this, but he's right in the thick of it. He could have had integrity and walked away at any time...instead he hung in there and continued to feed the false hopes to people. He knew before revocation and kept it up...In to Win...Get your depends...$4 Billion deal... Now he wants to play stupid...Now he wants us to think he was lost in the Foggy Forest...Nice try, Andy. « Last Edit: Yesterday at 5:17pm by go2guy » oaks VIP Member Re: Andy knew!!! « Reply #4 on Today at 9:48pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I did not question it because there were Letters of Opinion from the lawyers to back it up. Nor, did I learn of the 703 bill o/s until it as divluged to EVERY shareholder via the SEC filing. For me to receive it sooner would have made me privy to INSIDER INFO and that is something I never had or wanted per my agreement with Urban when I accepted the IR role. Oaks cmkxclubhouse.proboards76.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1199201033
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 2, 2008 22:49:22 GMT -5
Posted by mgl on millionaires.........
By: oil.ipo 02 Jan 2008, 07:27 PM EST Msg. 640126 of 640170 Jump to msg. # and uuhhh NOOOOOOOOOOO I do not think that Urban was stupid enough to sell out for .0005 on the dollar when he had trillions in oil.
LOL
Just ask those that have done the dd, and continue to do the due diligence.
Oil ( did I say OIL?)
AIMHO2
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 2, 2008 22:52:14 GMT -5
oaks DIAMOND JEDI You know folks..... « Thread Started on Today at 9:40pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I could have disappeared with the delisting and never been heard from or seen posting again. It was certainly an option I considered. However, as I am still a shareholder hoping for a positive outcome to this somehow, I decided to stick around... AS A SHAREHOLDER, who cares about all CMKX'rs. I thought it would be a real cop-out to simply fade away. I am pretty thick skinned and none of the negativity thrown my way ever bothers me. I accept that people need to vent. While some may not be happy with the message I brought forth as the IR, I can honestly say, I thought CMKX would turn out different. I was SHOCKED when Urban phoned me that Saturday morning before the Monday 8k was released and told me about the Task Force formation, the decision to drop the appeal, and allow the delisting. However, I did not think it was over as of April/06 when I last spoke to Urban, and I still don't, although the documentation to date does not paint a brilliant picture. I do not personally expect shareholders will ever hear from Urban, since he no longer has any official role with CMKX. If in fact Kevin West is all we have, then I wish him well in his fight/quest to revive CMKX. Some of you might be surprised to know I am NOT a big CMKX shareholder. I am very AVERAGE in that respect. Why? Because it was HIGH RISK. However, I deemed I had ENOUGH if CMKX came through as we all hoped, ie a .54 rumor actually coming true. I also purchased ALL my shares prior to becoming the IR so there would be no inherent conflict. I have never sold one share. I probably won't post alot this year. But, I will be around, watching, listening and HOPING. I am always available via PM and I will jump in if I see something I think I can contribute a point of view. My best wishes to all my fellow shareholders. Cheers. Oaks (aimho) oaks DIAMOND JEDI Re: You know folks..... « Reply #3 on Today at 9:58pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Sniffer, and Silver I sure hope shareholders do hear from Urban at some point. CMKX continues to be a very complicated maze and I sincerely hope it is ultimately solved/resolved for the great benefit of CMKX'rs who DESERVE much more than they got to date. Faithful shareholders have ALWAYS done EVERYTHING that was asked of them and they did it mainly on BLIND FAITH and TRUST. Pretty amazing when you think about it. Be well, be happy, live life and we will see what happens. Oaks (aimho) millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1199328040
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 3, 2008 7:24:15 GMT -5
ines DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Rumor: By: accadacca 02 Jan 2008 mp3 >> « Thread Started on Today at 12:02am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: accadacca 02 Jan 2008, 11:48 PM EST Msg. 640243 of 640250 Jump to msg. # I Know More Than Ever, At This Point In Time, That This Is The Greatest Stock Play EVER! PERIOD! This Is All I Have To Say At This Time, I Will Let The Powers Within Dictate The Ending To This Saga Which I Believe Will Be Within The Week!! ~Acca ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=640243mp3 >> www.zshare.net/audio/6139933a1d9cc9/ Acca GV room Jan 3 2008 < enhanced better sound !! media.putfile.com/acca-update-Jan-2--2008 same session,, different link for acca also enhanced. ~ try whichever sounds better to you. Small recap: Acca has talked to uc. this coming weekend they will have a preliminary celebration and Desp will be there and uc's wife too. Q: will the shareholders be in the know also at the same time the reason for this celebration? A: Not at this time it is prelimenary celebration but we will withing a week or so. Q: Will UC be able to talk to us within lets say weeks? A; Yes he will. He will talk to us. Q; will he be talking through another company or ? A; no, not another company..will hear directly from UC Q how long after we are in the know of the news that we have to wait for the roi.. or at least have knowledge of roi. A: it should follow it. Roi will folllow the news. I dont know how long. There is course of action that is taking place, Stocklien. The outcome is very positive. Q: could we have any more delays? A; ..? No Q: we talked in the past about multiple payments. This may not be very important question.. we did say in the past the first payment is most important and i agree with that. My question is will we still have multiple payments.. and is this one maybe small and other larger etc? A: Payments: 1st cash divi 2nd nss settlement, naked short 3rd money from sale of claims set up by uc, in the foreign country 4th large payment, Buyout money A: those payment are just initial. ( meaning moneys before we go into roaylties etc.. the value ..) Q; how will we get this news? how can we expect this .. to come to us? A: it will not come from tyler , a certain attorney will handle it. After Midnight Hour: company made good business sense decision, not based on emotion sense, the best move for company they needed to let negotiations to go on... initially $.16 was turned down to where we are going to be at today. .16$ Robert Maheu pulled that off the table. He is still involved... (1:36 AM) cinderfella123: 1st he said 800K for 5M which was taken off the table then he said 1M $ for 5M shares is what I heard www.zshare.net/audio/6139782310f8e2/ despreado recap after acca left gv room jan 3 2008 < partial. millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1199336534&page=1
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 3, 2008 7:24:40 GMT -5
badbassplayer DIAMOND DIGGER Re: By: accadacca 02 Jan 2008 « Reply #6 on Today at 12:26am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Holy Moly ACCAMAN, I knew we were close, but not this close. Thanks for all you've done for us. Folks remember this: CERTAIN PREDICTIONS IN THE PAST HAVE COME TO PASS, NOW THAT THEY HAVE PASSED, THEY ARE HARD TO REMEMBER! You gave us so much (But could never get a date right!LOL) and you are not given credit for all you did. Michigan got lucky! LOL millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1199336534&page=1
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 3, 2008 7:25:15 GMT -5
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