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Post by soonerlew on Jan 23, 2008 13:10:43 GMT -5
john3339 DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Market manipulation+lost value=compensable damages « Thread Started on Today at 10:38am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It seems to be lost in the threads about claims that were once ours. But instead of arguing about which claims may or may not still be CMKX's perhaps it might be useful to look at a bigger picture. If CMKX was not manipulated by borkers, et al, into the cellar of $.0001 and less pps, would CMKX have lost the claims? I submit that if there were no negative pressures on the pps, such as naked shorting and yeah, perhaps dumping shares on the market, would CMKX necessarily have defaulted on agreements causing CMKX to lose its claims? I don't think so. Artificial low pps caused a lot of buys, but there was relatively little money flowing into CMKX. If the buying pressure for ONLY the AS was present, the pps should have gone up. Capital raised could have been used to continue exploring our claims for viable drilling and mining opportunities. Realistically, we could have been as far along in our program as what the bigger players are right now. WE could have been well into a bulk sampling program, and yeah, even had an operation comparable to the Star Kimberlite! Now that core test results are public concerning the Carolyn Pipe, we can see that a claim (that is no doubt one we used to own the rights to) shows potential for further development. But because of the market manipulation CMKX experienced, we cannot further explore the potential. Our inability to continue our program of exploration and mining prevented us from exploiting this opportunity to its fullest potential, and in fact, gave that potential to another entity. This is just one example of the damages we (CMKX) incurred as a result of the market manipulation inflicted upon us (CMKX). Add that to the claim by frizz that he proved 2+ trillion naked short against CMKX. THAT is the activity that caused the real damages against CMKX. By selling that volume into the market, the pps was artificially kept low...so low as to virtually eliminate any real operational-size revenues to flow to CMKX for continuing our program of exploration and exploitation. If those 2 trillion shares were sold into the market at $.0002 pps, it generated $400 million dollars. Had the market pressures let the pps find its own level, the pps may very well have risen much higher. Could it have reached a penny? ($20 BILLION dollars!) I submit that regardless of the money generated, the proof of the naked shorting will also show that when air-shares were sold, the only ones to pocket the money were the borkers themselves. Can anyone show any indication that the sale of naked shorts resulted in an influx of cash to CMKX? I think the Jeffries letter explains that if a transaction is off the books, so goes the revenues too. We have the criminal act - we have the realized damages - we (should) have the names of the borkers involved. What are the tyler boys doing, except running around after chump change? Once again, where is frizz with his proof of the naked short position? We now have proof of lost value as result of the crime. Restitution in the form of regained claims, returned revenues from the sale of securities CMKX never received, penalties for counterfeiting shares, disgorgement, return of money made from OUR money... There are so many more advantageous avenues the tyler boys could be taking. What's wrong with this picture? Instead, they're pursuing people who MAY have absconded with $200 million dollars...maybe not. If so, how long will it take to find the remaining cash...liquidate assets to get more cash...find all the places where revenues were generated from our revenues. The complaints contain many allegations, nothing proved yet. frizz has (he says) proof of the naked short position. If he has that, it stands to reason he knows who created that position and who still holds that position. We now see proof of value WE could have still been working-even from just the ONE claim of many we lost! Why chase peanuts when you have the whole enchalada in front of you? I'm baffled...unless it's all just smoke n mirrors from tyler. Vent complete. imo john millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1201102713
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 23, 2008 13:11:40 GMT -5
]~¤Franko¤~ DESIGNER Re: 6 diamonds! if we were still trading today « Reply #6 on Today at 12:29pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I do agree,.. something does not add up here and I am sure that in time we will understand y,.. however at this time there seems to be a lot of dis information and confusion being spread to keep people in the dark and off the trail. JMHO millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1201105926
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 23, 2008 13:12:27 GMT -5
surfersdream vegas member Re: MP3 & Notes - Acca 1/22/08 Int'l Room « Reply #2 on Today at 12:57pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some one help me out here ---- reading the ACCA's recap -- some one mentioned the Entourage PR ----- ? I can not find a PR from them.......... Also, some one last week -when ACCA said big PR coming the 22nd-- asked ACCA if he was willing to risk his reputation with such a statement-- he said "absolutely"......Now please understand me here, I want "closure" as much as the next guy.......... So I hope what ACCA says is true.......I also realize, it does not matter what he says, because "closure" good or bad, will come, with or without him..........It is just so frustrating when he makes statements about things going to happpen----(since he is the only one who says he has info)-with the inference he has inside info (but not actually saying so) and they never come about.........Unfortunately, just one delay after another ..........He reminds me of some girls I knew in my teenage years Remember when he said he was gone at the end of Sept...?? Remember when he said he had SEEN the checks?? I believe in --" if you have nothing good to say, do not say anything"--- So I have slipped a bit here......It is just that we really have never received any "FACTS" from anyone--- just "hopes and guesses".........(like so many other "pinks") -- So when someone such as ACCA comes on board with what we assume to be "inside info" (but no facts) It is impossible not to get excited.....I know there is no "pump/dump" here, because of the obvious.....so I am inclined to go along with what he has to say. (hopefully it is not wishful thinking) I just wish when he is "on" some one would ask for some FACTS... not just "I thinks" or "I can't says"..("why can't you say?")........I would like to think he realizes that with his many "next week, etc" he damages his credibility--(if he has not already done so)---we all remember "the boy who cried wolf"------The only reason I keep listening is that I want and hope it to be true..(and he is the only "game" in town)...but come on, "PR the 22nd with $ following"---- now--"3rd week of Feb"..IF he would only let us know (if he knows) why the delays(more facts) then he can maintain his "credibility".......( and keep me from going out and jumping off the curb) don't shoot me, I am one of the "good guys" I wish us all well, Don camrhon.proboards102.com/index.cgi?board=safe&action=display&thread=1201064678 surfersdream vegas member Re: MP3 & Notes - Acca 1/22/08 Int'l Room « Reply #3 on Today at 3:16pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oops, before you start "shooting" ..... I see my error --- I thought the PR was coming from Entourage..... So, I am sorry for that comment.. ........Having said that, can any of you bring me up to date by showing me in "black and white" (facts) where CMKX is tied in with United and/or Star....Please, not something ACCA has said! Thanks, Don
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 23, 2008 13:58:54 GMT -5
By: stockfred 23 Jan 2008, 10:31 AM EST Msg. 646743 of 646813 (This msg. is a reply to 646737 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # rosencrantz...Do you have any idea about the relationship between the sample size and the Drill Site - Carolyn?? It is significant that micro diamonds were found in such a small sample. But, more important, why weren't the results published before?! IMO, they are significant results. - - - - - ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=646743
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 23, 2008 13:59:23 GMT -5
By: lilburrito0 23 Jan 2008, 11:02 AM EST Msg. 646755 of 646813 (This msg. is a reply to 646751 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # gusjarvis I don't know where your coming from Gus; Nor do I want one of your 15 sentences as an explanation! But since November 2004 I have been saying there was something wrong in CMKX; And as a response I was labled a basher and threatened. I have been calling for some legal action for quite some time. And finally that's being done! So grow up and face the reality that CMKX was a pump and dump scam. Urban and his buddies stole everything; And Urban and his buddies will end up in jail. There's two choices for CMKX; 1. Go after Urban and his buddies and get back what they stole, and; 2. File Bankruptcy on CMKX. You need to look inside yourself and pick a side you want to stand. Because currently you're a bouncing ball, bouncing back from side to side depending upon what new rumors come to fruition! And PS. Also look inside yourself at the anger you have of me; And ask yourself is the foundation of that anger created because I have been calling the FACTS for so long! ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=646755
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 23, 2008 13:59:47 GMT -5
By: pallyguyct 23 Jan 2008, 11:12 AM EST Msg. 646757 of 646813 (This msg. is a reply to 646755 by lilburrito0.) Jump to msg. # "Bill suing the pants off of Urban" the shyster couldn't serve Urban lunch let alone papers for a lawsuit...keep playing though. What you don't seem to get is the whole "old CMKX" versus "new CMKX". ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=646757
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 23, 2008 14:00:13 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 23 Jan 2008, 01:16 PM EST Msg. 646803 of 646814 (This msg. is a reply to 646790 by elvis-is-here.) Jump to msg. # elvis how are you, great post it says it all and we all know we didn't just give away our claims. Some forget bill and john and kevin are shareholders, when the og said that our claims were being maintained it was also in their best interests to continue to make sure, I would you would any shareholder in their position would as their investment hinged on it and their worked hinged on our assets being there and maintained as you don't bother covering and proving a naked short on an assetless company. You don't do a cert pull for an assetless company, there would be no point. You don't do what kevin called a one of a kind interplead that had to be done just right due to its importance without assets. This is getting good - - - - - By: elvis-is-here 23 Jan 2008, 01:40 PM EST Msg. 646813 of 646814 (This msg. is a reply to 646803 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # Klonopin2mg, Gusjarvis: It is good to see you both. Thanx for keeping the board intact. Yes imo "You don't do a cert pull for an assetless company". I was in USCI (not usca). Registration was revoked. Company said sorry. That was it. S/h did not sue anyone that I am aware of. Company was assetless. IMO, U/c could have walked after revocation. IMO if co was with out assets then he would have walked. (esp. if co was in bankruptcy) Suit still on going over Carolyn pipe though. However, some may say USCI was not as big as CMKX (40-60k s/h) nor were the expectations as high. Also, others may say U/C spent co funds. Elvis ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=646813
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 23, 2008 14:00:40 GMT -5
By: snoopstock613 23 Jan 2008, 12:45 PM EST Msg. 646794 of 646816 (This msg. is a reply to 646784 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. # Good one Gus and good afternoon to you. Now have a great day and don't be easy on these guys/gals. - - - - -
By: gusjarvis 23 Jan 2008, 01:02 PM EST Msg. 646799 of 646815 (This msg. is a reply to 646794 by snoopstock613.) Jump to msg. # snoop hey and check who is watching you right now portrush Administrator ***** member is offline
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 23, 2008 14:01:02 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 23 Jan 2008, 01:56 PM EST Msg. 646816 of 646817 Jump to msg. # elvis and klon to me it is this easy with all the gov't agencies investigating and the shareholders having a lawyer investigating the pr's about don getting us to reporting status and them being able to hide the filings for our own good have to be right. The star news that has been delayed as long as the book and the court date being delayed for as long as it has for nothing but moving next month say we are close, with the book being delayed at the exact same time and moving forward at the exact same time. Could it really be this close, who knows with cmkx right.
and I wonder who those lawyers are watching the boards and what I potentially have said to them, whoops lol!
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 23, 2008 14:01:26 GMT -5
By: kal_el_1 23 Jan 2008, 12:29 PM EST Msg. 646789 of 646817 Jump to msg. # Here we go again Acca is giving another date, which I will bet anyone here $1,000.00 IT WILL NOT COME TRUE! Are there any takers? If are you with me? Are you hearing me? People, please do not fall for this again, I beg you. Acca alone is giving the psychiatry industry a big boost! I wonder if he is also paid by them to manipulate you? - - - - - ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=646789
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 23, 2008 17:33:17 GMT -5
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 23, 2008 17:34:04 GMT -5
tramp DIAMOND JEDI Re: gossip discussion 1/23 « Reply #7 on Today at 12:57pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- my my, still trying to paint urban bad, now are we.. well, i'll be smiling all the way to the mineral superstore and to the bank.. in, you win.. if you had doubts and got out.. well, too dam bad.. we shareholders who believed in urban, were going to win...because were in by the way, on the entourage filings those numbers match up to the numbers to the carolyn pipe.. the etgmf 14f says it all with regard to claims----they match up. and they surround three known kimberlites millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1201090653
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 23, 2008 17:34:33 GMT -5
hawkeye1 Diamond Finder and Miner Re: gossip 1/23/08 « Reply #4 on Today at 12:38pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: eaglespirit23 22 Jan 2008, 10:45 PM EST Msg. 646610 of 646828 Jump to msg. # The LID is off, exciting times ahead of us. Patience prevails, bonafide stockholders prepare for the outpouring of blessings!!! "I feel here that we have a partnership of sorts, I mean the government and we have a partnership to save these stockholders, and I will do my best to do that." Robert A. Maheu Burn bashers! LOL! tramp2.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1201091798
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 23, 2008 17:36:07 GMT -5
dmclay Mutineer Re: From What I've been Told... « Reply #37 on Today at 1:59pm » BD, is skirting the question..... both him and I know that it has no bearing what so ever..... but i believe they are affraid that if people knew what backroom deals were cut that less people will support them. I am entitled to know how much these people will be paid with corporate funds. BD..... as much as you and the Texas boys believe I am not.... I am and if I had the sharebacking you could bet your last dollar I would have that info. I am entitled to a lot of things within the company..... that MR Frizzell believes I am not, he has basicaly taken my rights as a shareholder away. the whole thing seems a bit shady to me.... dmclay cmkxdiamond.proboards66.com/index.cgi?board=general1&action=display&thread=1201043674&page=3
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 23, 2008 17:37:01 GMT -5
stocksense Renegade Re: From What I've been Told... « Reply #38 on Today at 2:05pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ""Frizzell thinks this is still a private company when it is not. It's a revoked shell corp that has more than 300 shareholders of record"" Most people know that, including Frizzell. Why he makes some of the ridiculous statements he does, such as this one, and the trillions in NSS, etc, is a mystery to me Then again...when I really think about it, it may not be as much of a mystery.... Either Bill's incredibly incompetent, or, he's doing what iv'e suggested for a while now....he's playing to all those shareholders out there who want to feel "good" about things not being as bleek as they really are....and to still "believe". That, for example, was the reason he made the trillions in NSS statement....and it is the reason for a few other statements he's made, also, imo! Again....this is just my opinion, but I prefer to believe this, rather than to believe he's an incompetent fool. I don't believe he is. Mind you, I was wrong once before (can't remember when, but sometime i'm sure) so I could be wrong for the second time. But I don't think I am. cmkxdiamond.proboards66.com/index.cgi?board=general1&action=display&thread=1201043674&page=3
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