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Post by soonerlew on Jul 3, 2008 6:56:47 GMT -5
ewe2667613 Global Moderator Judgment for CMKX « Thread Started Yesterday at 6:02pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.cmkmdiamondsinc.com/documents/je-judgment-07-01-08.pdf austrian Prospector Re: Judgment for CMKX « Reply #1 Today at 1:37am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Aren´t these good news? It remains to be seen if these guys do have the money to pay. And what light does that verdict produce on UC? I think at least it proofs now officially that CMKX was indeed the victim of ill intended people try to squeeze the life out of it. Can´t wait for further information. Best regards to all of you, Tom. deepdatasearch.proboards33.com/index.cgi?board=blog&action=display&thread=1076
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 3, 2008 7:00:24 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 03 Jul 2008, 07:45 AM EDT Msg. 738889 of 738889 Jump to msg. # hoping kevin and bill put out a comment about yesterday's court decision and the $33m.
By: anydaynow13 03 Jul 2008, 08:03 AM EDT Msg. 738890 of 738890 (This msg. is a reply to 738889 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # rosen - if nothing else, he will probably post some patriotic Independence Day greeting -- he usually does.
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 3, 2008 7:25:45 GMT -5
BHollenegg DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Roger Glenn...an EggHead?? « Thread Started Yesterday at 6:19am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UPDATE (May 30, 2008): "Eggheads?" We think not. These yolks may be on to something. Look how many more people have signed up for this event within the last 24 hours! ross obrien obrien consulting consultant Evgeni Mitkov Electronic trading Founder robert kaskel xtg cto Ronald Bradford . Information Architect Roger Glenn Edwards Angell Palmer & Dodge Partner WHO HATCHED THIS IDEA? Is starting (or maintaining) a business as challenging as finding a date? Many appear to think so. That's why the good folks over at "The Hatchery" are promoting an event called "Hatch Match." It's very much like "Speed Dating" -- where you're "forced" to go from table to table meeting different people (for a delineated time period) -- except this is for business networking and related purposes. If you'd like to sign up for the event, you can use this link: Business Speed Dating www.nyrealestatelawblog.com/2008/05/who_hatched_this_idea.html#002320Any shareholders in New York? This is an Egg-cellent opportunity to meet Roger Glenn and Egg-tract some information about Cmkx. Sign up for the business speed dating. Ask Roger Glenn for an Eggs-plaination concerning CMKX and what Egg-tent is his present involvement with CMKX. Roger just might make an Egg-ception and Egg-change some Egg-cellent information. I can just imagine his Egg-pression. Time to Eggs-it BHollenEgg millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=20754
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Post by ironman on Jul 3, 2008 10:17:59 GMT -5
I followed the link: What category should we pick and what should we write...I have no problem doing this?? justiceAdministrator Re: CMKX wins against Edwards...$33,000,000+ « Reply #22 Today at 9:04pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Why do I bother ? For about 2 months now I have been saying shareholders need to be filing thier clains with tgw SEC In order to be eligible for any distribution of disgordgement funds possibly to be collected. If 20 or 30 thousand shareholders sign up and file thier claim the SEC will stand up and take notice, failure for this to Happen could eventually mean you will own a pittance of shares in a company owned and ran by Frizzel/West/Martin using CMKM funds to start this company with, www.sec.gov/complaint/selectconduct.shtmlBut hey whatever floats your boat, « Last Edit: Today at 9:18pm by justice » MineralsRusAdministrator Re: CMKX wins against Edwards...$33,000,000+ « Reply #23 Today at 9:08pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Justice, The word will get out. You can bet the farm on that one. They think they are going to back door 40k investors? Not gonna happen. www.wlf.org/upload/013106RS.pdf cmkxclubhouse.proboards76.com/index.cgi?board=court&action=display&thread=2089&page=2
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Post by ironman on Jul 3, 2008 10:26:43 GMT -5
This term "reverse split" really gets thrown around too much...IMO they can split it all they want, your net ownership still has to remain the same...second, the stock is not traded, so splitting has no dynamic effect that I can think of....why would they bother? ocd Diamond Finder and Miner Re: CMKM Diamonds Wins $33,675,365 Judgement « Reply #7 Today at 12:54am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just voicing some thoughts...I've not heard anything so these are just my thoughts. First off, collecting on a judgement is very difficult. An asset search will have already been done I'm sure but then you have to go get the money from other countries..that's a tough one unless you get some form of cooperation from a deal you've struck. Secondly, if this is all we get is $33 million you can bet a reverse split is part of our future. I can't see this being the only monies though. Hopefully though, this is just the beginning. It would be NICE if Urban would talk to us for crying out loud. tramp2.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=5438
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Post by hundredtoone on Jul 3, 2008 11:02:54 GMT -5
Don't worry you can't do a Reverse Split without filing and making public the SHARESTRUCTURE ...the Task Farce records must be revealed and there has to be something to TRADE for...we have NONE of that that we know of and probably NEVER WILL so don't worry IMO...as for the LINK I think it is a good idea...I would say we were INJURED by STOCK FRAUD ...such as being sold ILLEGAL SHARES...and not being able to VOTE or even KNOW our sharestructure while REGULATORS looked on...FOR YEARS...someone owes a BIG PENALTY on those COUNTERFIET SHARES IMO...no sorry .0001...more like $1...Flying Moose(cmkxunofficial)
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Post by bobbybdb on Jul 3, 2008 12:18:41 GMT -5
Don't worry you can't do a Reverse Split without filing and making public the SHARESTRUCTURE ...the Task Farce records must be revealed and there has to be something to TRADE for...we have NONE of that that we know of and probably NEVER WILL so don't worry IMO...as for the LINK I think it is a good idea...I would say we were INJURED by STOCK FRAUD ...such as being sold ILLEGAL SHARES...and not being able to VOTE or even KNOW our sharestructure while REGULATORS looked on...FOR YEARS...someone owes a BIG PENALTY on those COUNTERFIET SHARES IMO...no sorry .0001...more like $1...Flying Moose(cmkxunofficial) hundred, totally agree, my firstl thought is how/why can the Tyler group receive any wind fall profits from those that committed fraud against CMKX and it's shareholders, long before the Tyler group was formed? It would seem to me that any funds collected from J.E. should be put back to right the wrong that Edwards caused. This is not a criminal case and there is no fined levied, it was a judgment to right a wrong. The only way that wrong can be corrected is to 1, compensate those that were wronged, (not Tyler they were not here at that time). 2, Use every cent of that money to purchase all those shares back off the market, 300,000,000,000 or whatever. 3. Shareholders really paid the price of Edwards dastly deed, causing us to be held in limbo all these years, long before Tyler. I think at this point we all need legal advice on this one.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 3, 2008 14:13:14 GMT -5
MineralsRus Administrator Re: CMKX wins against Edwards...$33,000,000+ « Reply #45 Today at 11:59am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I just spent approximately one hour on the phone with Kevin West. We talked about several subjects, atleast 6 or 7. One thing I will address that we talked about was the BS rumor that a few on this board keep spouting their garbage about is the 750,000 dollars they say UC gave to Bill Frizzell. It's all BS and if you want to dispute it then
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I'll see you in the crossfire section! You know who you are.
Leonidas Maggot Moderator Re: CMKX wins against Edwards...$33,000,000+ « Reply #46 Today at 12:10pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mins ~ Believe everything you are told? Hm. That's up to you I suppose.
The fact is, Frizzell wasn't working for free.
Ric Executive Administrator Re: CMKX wins against Edwards...$33,000,000+ « Reply #48 Today at 12:23pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I will not take sides the $750K issue. But I will say, that I doubt anyone would admit to taking money from Urban. Also, I don't trust anything that Bill ad Kevin say when it comes to the time between revocation and Kevin taking over the company. And the main reason why is Brewer. Why didn't Frizzell not warn shareholders that Urban was brokering shares after revocation? This issue really eats me up. And if there was money paid was it from this deal between Deli, Brewer, Urban, and Kinney. And there is no way that Frizzell didn't know this was happening by a major investor in TOGI while working on the task force and seeing cert records.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 3, 2008 14:19:22 GMT -5
peterg2000 DIAMOND MINER imo; What I find strange with the Tyler boys ! « Thread Started Today at 2:12pm »
We've basically been in a war against shorty for the last several years and its been a hard road for us shareholders up to now , to have to deal with the guru's predicting a huge ROI , the SEC saying we were a scam company from the start and Tyler saying we are worthless and hope to regain meager assests stolen from us !
Yet with this apparent VICTORY they've remained silent ! It seems to me if I was CEO of CMKX , I'd at the very least put out a PR stating the satisfaction of FINALLY winning something in our favour and RaRaRa hang in there we're making progress blah blah blah !
To me the silence just adds to the BS which is TYLER ! Even if they did put something out now it would be too little too late ! IMO
Pete
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 3, 2008 14:22:03 GMT -5
abadgoodgirl DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD
Again, we have a designated trustee pursuant to the SEC filings in October 2005.
The trustee is supposed to work in the best interests of the stock holders, the bona fide stockholders, which incidently was defined as having physical delivery of stock.
The trustee was charged with distribution of the ETGMF dividend and any other assets. Does the $30 million qualify as "any other assets"?
It is elementary, the designated trustee, whoever it is, has the answers and has a fiduciary duty to work on the behalf of the bona fide stockholders...and not the un certed few as compared to the certed many.
There is only so much one can do to fulfill the duty of notification to stockholders to achieve delivery of their cert.
IMO, the trustee, should he exist, has a duty to work in the best interests of the bona fide cmkx stockholders, including going to state and federal court as stated in the filing.
I still haven't seen our trustee in state or federal court; but I know not what transpires behind the scenes.
Answers to many of our unanswered questions, imo, can only be found by locating our trustee.
There is no way, imo, that those bozo's in Tyler can abscond with $30 million for themselves while at the same time leaving the cmkx stockholders severely damaged right under the nose of the designated trustee (presuming the trustee is paying attention to his mandate).
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 3, 2008 16:27:51 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010 03 Jul 2008, 09:54 AM EDT Msg. 738930 of 739169Jump to msg. # FALC CLAIMS MAP ANALYSIS: one of the most interesting parts of the FALC claims map is a fairly large area about 15-20 kilometers southeast of candle lake. candle lake is easily spotted on the map since it's by far the largest lake in the area. if you look at the most recent claims map, which you can get by going to SHANE RESOURCES web site ( www.shaneresources.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=19&Itemid=32 ) and compare it with a map 6-12 months older you will see that SHORE, ENTOURAGE and SHANE and to a lesser extent, STAR, engaged it a great deal of claim swaps. in some cases, the amount of land traded between SHANE and SHORE was considerable. in one case, SHORE "gave" SHANE a 10k by 10k parcel allowing SHANE to link up with a similar sized parcel it obtained from ENTOURAGE. SHANE went from having very few claims in the FALC to quickly becoming the second largest player. to be sure, SHANE is a distant second to SHORE's holdings, nonetheless, SHANE is now clearly number two with STAR URANIUM right behind SHANE in holdings. why would SHORE give up these claims (and a few others in the southern part of the FALC) to SHANE? why would ENTOURAGE give up pretty much everything (they still have holdings in the FALC but now mostly to the east of candle lake) to SHORE and SHANE? and if the former ENTOURAGE claims are worthless, why would SHORE (especially SHORE) and SHANE pick up so many of those claims? and we're not talking about a few claims, we're talking about roughly 1,000 square kilometers worth of claims. ENTOURAGE controlled roughly 1/3 to 1/2 of the FALC about a year ago. and if you look around the FALC at small, specific spots that have been with SHORE for a good while, even several of those have been swapped out. and the same holds true for the other companies, that is, they've traded with SHORE in several spots. why do that? in some cases these spots are right in the middle of the other guys big block of claims. if all this former ENTOURAGE land (formerly cmkx land) is worthless, why would SHANE and SHORE and the others even be bothering to acquire it and then swap it? why waste you time and money on swapping moose pasture? (maybe moose pooop is a new alternative energy source? we're rich!!) really, why bother staking and then swapping blocks of a LOT of worthless land? if SHORE wants to explore it or use it for parking, fine. but why is SHANE and the others interested in it too? and why would all of these companies appear to be so buddy, buddy? why would i swap/sell land to a competitor? maybe they have so much land they don't care? but i doubt that. to an outsider it has the look of people working together. and then you have to ask yourself, was ENTOURAGE so dumb they just let all this apparently valuable land just slip away? (yes, i know,,, people say, "but it cost so much and ENTOURAGE didn't have the money." yeah, right! ENTOURAGE gives up diamond claims because they couldn't find anyone with money to partner with.) and then you have to further ask, was urban so dumb he just let all of the ENTOURAGE land slip away for a quick payday? maybe, but something about that answer doesn't ring true. it's going to be instructive to see what the next version of the FALC claims map reveals. i wonder if we'll see as many changes as we've seen in the past year? right now the FALC is a pretty dynamic area. a lot of deals are being done. what those deals mean is unclear. but it's obvious those boys are meeting and talking with one another about carving up the FALC. then again, maybe they're not talking about carving it up but putting it all back together? By: winningways6 03 Jul 2008, 10:26 AM EDT Msg. 738939 of 739169(This msg. is a reply to 738930 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. # Rosencrantz, excellent post! There sure is a lot of hokey-pokey being played up there. It will be interesting to see how the Shore Gold / Star Uranium outcome affects this.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 3, 2008 16:31:26 GMT -5
By: lou60447 02 Jul 2008, 05:06 PM EDT Msg. 738755 of 738864Jump to msg. # Just popped in: I just read some of the posts. I see oil.ipo is now calling for action by the stockholders. For three years I have been calling for us to become proactive. For this I was labeled a basher and put on ignore. yet I have been here for 5 years and invested $10,00 I read about the edwards deal. How can we be entitled to any money as shareholders when CMKX does not exist as a publicly traded corporation . It is revoked. BF and KW can keep that money for themselves and dare the stockholders to sue them. We all know how little money from a class action lawsuit actually goes to the shareholders. We have always assumed that the bashers are our enemy. But what if some of the people on this board are being paid to keep feeding us positive posts to keep us inactive. The Jay Adobes, the Accas, the David Stevens and the gusjarvises could be the real enemy. After all, who would hire a basher like a jonas to actually effect the outcome of this issue. As I have said before, keeping me on ignore will not change the outcome of this event. And if you are afraid to read my posts, perhaps you too are doubtful of the outcome. Not one person on this board has presented any documented proof that we will ever be paid. This stock has turned into a religion. Either you are a part of this CMKX religion or you are in infidel. Again that will not change the outcome. Doed anyone here truly believe that after 5 years of hearing nothing from this company we will be rewarded with $1.54/share. If you do, please come to Brooklyn. I have a very nice used bridge to sell you. By: klonopin2mg 03 Jul 2008, 09:53 AM EDT Msg. 738929 of 739169(This msg. is a reply to 738756 by lou60447.) Jump to msg. # lou, what is your concern here again?.....out of one side of your mouth you state: " BF and KW can keep that money for themselves and dare the stockholders to sue them. We all know how little money from a class action lawsuit actually goes to the shareholders. " we agree! then you go on to state: " keeping me on ignore will not change the outcome of this event. And if you are afraid to read my posts, perhaps you too are doubtful of the outcome " we agree! absolutely NOTHING can change the good outcome.....and you were right again when you said, "Not one person on this board has presented any documented proof that we will ever be paid" JM2Sense! use logic and common sense......still being here after five plus years is ASTONISHING in and of itself..... I choose to stick around for what was PROMISED by those with the "POWER TO INLUENCE EVENTS" and yes THERE IS DOCUMENTED PROOF! if you haven't seen it, perhaps look in the right places or ask the right people. have you not watched the news over the past five years......can you not see who the enemy really is? It's been LOUD & CLEAR for me for nearly 10 years. i don't pretend to have the answers...just that "$$" is part of this "good outcome" and heads (TRASH as i like to call them) have been rolling at the fastest pace in our entire history. just keeps getting better! unfortunately we are in the dark, will be left in the dark and won't be given the answers.......just "$$" what will count is thereafter, that's when this group will be counted! and fwiw, i don't think many have you on ignore. Enjoy Your Weekend! and CELEBRATE INDEPENDENCE! don't let "them" keep taking your independence from you....celebrate the EFFORT FOR VINDICATION and for the good outcome to follow. CHEERS ALL! klon' p.s. no i don't believe in $1.54 per share, but there are so many discrepencies in "who's shares and how many will count in the end"...forensic accounting and "NON-PATICIPANTS"?
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 3, 2008 20:50:47 GMT -5
portrush Administrator Re: CMKM Diamonds Wins $33,675,365 Judgement « Reply #9 Today at 8:50am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Good thoughts from Twistcapper on pb88 Re: CMKM Wins Judgement against Edwards « Reply #10 Today at 9:05am » I believe the judgement was $28 million + $5 million in punitive damages kbarry. If nothing else, this is at least a moral victory for us all. There seem to be many excellent points "kicked around" on other boards regarding this: 1) Winnning a judgement does not mean we will collect .... especially being a civil case. 2) Question as to whether Edwards shares would be cancelled? My question to that would be "who is in possession of those shares now"? You? Me? Just because the shares we illegally dumped - the brokers churned those shares, and First Global would have seen the action. Remember Helen's purported comments "We will never run out of certs" ( or something to that effect... ). So again, I ask - if shares are cancelled - which shares are they? 3) Money collected - where does it goes? People are busy pointing out ratios and $ per share. What makes you think monies will be returned directly to shareholders? How much goes back into the company? Will monies be returned first to those funding Tyler? Will the balance be returned to us after that? Will it be used to fund NSS suits? Just throwing everything "out there" .................. tramp2.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=5438
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 3, 2008 20:52:06 GMT -5
ocd Diamond Finder and Miner Re: CMKM Diamonds Wins $33,675,365 Judgement « Reply #11 Today at 2:00pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The one thing I keep reading on the boards is how this is whatever (insert any cost) and it belongs to KW and BF. Now let's look at what it really is...a CEO used a lawyer to go after a former insider who scammed the company and its shareholders. The money belongs to the company AND its shareholders. Any exhorbant costs charged by the current CEO and its lawyers to get any money from former insiders or stock brokers or anybody that screwed the company and its shareholders will be held for those charges. So if KW or BF screw us they get to go to court once again, but the judge will then say, "you're trying to do to the shareholders what the last guys did that you sued to get this money...GUILTY!" Get it people? It's not their money!!! tramp2.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=5438
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Post by soonerlew on Jul 3, 2008 20:52:54 GMT -5
gusjarvis King of Diamonds Re: CMKM Diamonds Wins $33,675,365 Judgement « Reply #12 Today at 3:12pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- the thing we all need to remember with this start is it was all scripted and this is just the beginning of the good news, remember andy said urban did a four billion dollar deal on just one part of our land, and said we worked with the sec on this: What I specifically remembered today was a phone call one day from a very upset Roger Glenn (I think it was Summer/04 time frame) over something I had said which had made it’s way to the message boards and forums. I cannot recall what it was that Glenn was upset with me over. However, I remember he said he was calling me because Leslie Hakala’s office had phoned him. Glenn told me he was working very hard on getting CMKX reporting again and my comments did not help matters. I immediately called Urban and asked him what the heck was going on with Glenn and that I did not appreciate his phone call and his tone toward me. Urban said to not worry about it and he would discuss with Glenn. Wish I could remember what he was upset over..perhaps it will come to me later. The significance though is the clear fact the SEC was VERY aware of many aspects of CMKX at the time, ie mid 2004, but took no action at that time to visibly protect shareholder interests or future potential shareholders from investing. Very strange unless one accepts it is all part of the SCRIPT? I think so folks. Oaks (aimho) tramp2.proboards88.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=5438
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