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Post by soonerlew on Dec 17, 2008 18:19:47 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 16 Dec 2008, 05:25 PM EST Msg. 787190 of 787503 Jump to msg. #
byrne bent over cramer like bob did the dtcc
Cramer blames lack of regulation. The Securities and Exchange Commission under the chairmanship of Christopher Cox has done away with virtually any and all regulation that democratized the market and leveled the playing field. Only a complete reversal will restore trust.
By: klonopin2mg 17 Dec 2008, 12:49 PM EST Msg. 787353 of 787503 (This msg. is a reply to 787190 by gusjarvis.) Jump to msg. #
gus' just more of the long endured learning curve and more of the same "conditioning the atmousphere"...who better than Cramer and wall streets own.....
"trash being takin out"
later friend...out to watch some good christmas time...
"trimming of the hedges"
and i agree....the complete reversal is about to happen and with it being....
"planned for years"
The Best To You!
klon'
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 17, 2008 18:25:03 GMT -5
By: leowanta 17 Dec 2008, 02:09 PM EST Msg. 787390 of 787504 Jump to msg. #
all of those shares were UNREGISTERED shares .....
and were naked shorted shares
it's illegal to sell/trade UNREGISTERED SHARES of stock in any way.....therefore JE will not respond...the SEC will find summary judgment in favor of the SEC who in turn will put that money in the ever growing pot ....to be distributed in the ongoing distribution ...
this is not a one time payout folks....
sorry to disappoint you lilburrito...urban will not be going to jail for if they tried to put uc in jail, the regulators would also have to put themselves in jail.....do you believe that will occur? not a snowballs change in haties!
leowanta
By: lilburrito0 17 Dec 2008, 02:14 PM EST Msg. 787396 of 787504 (This msg. is a reply to 787390 by leowanta.) Jump to msg. #
leowanta
Re: all of those shares were UNREGISTERED shares ..... and were naked shorted shares
You're another one of the morons that don't understand "Unregistered Shares" are backed up by a Certificate. And if a Share is backed up with a Certificate, it's not an NSS Share!
Go back and read about "NSS" and how an "NSS Share" is created. Hopefully you'll understand that "NSS" is held in Electronic Form!
By: leowanta 17 Dec 2008, 02:19 PM EST Msg. 787402 of 787504 (This msg. is a reply to 787396 by lilburrito0.) Jump to msg. #
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
come on pedro....that's a laugh....
i have a certificate and it's all NSS, unregistered shares....
so much for your argument... a certificate does not make counterfeit shares go away.....it's just colored different...same animal...different form....
think of water... think of ice...
both are water....same deal ...electronic...certificate...all came from the same NSS animal....
becareful pedro..."moran" is actionable....and for you...applies since you sold your shares and lost your fortune....is that why you are so bitter and hanging out with loser nufced? misery loves company....
hahahahahahahahaha
have a nice day...
leowanta
By: lilburrito0 17 Dec 2008, 02:28 PM EST Msg. 787406 of 787504 (This msg. is a reply to 787402 by leowanta.) Jump to msg. #
leowanta'
Re: i have a certificate and it's all NSS, unregistered shares....
Like I said; learn the difference between "Unregistered Shares" and "NSS Shares."
Here's a little brain-teaser: The 622 Billion Unregistered Shares are part of the CMKM 703 Billion Shares OS.
By: leowanta 17 Dec 2008, 02:40 PM EST Msg. 787410 of 787504 (This msg. is a reply to 787406 by lilburrito0.) Jump to msg. #
so....no difference
all were authorized after July 2003...all 622b are unregistered and naked shorted shares....since urban retired the real shares december of 2003....you know that pedro.....i know you know that...so why the argument?
so uc got an increase by the nevada sos...they still were unregistererd shares...the nevada sos is to blame...they have a responsibility to know if the security is registered or not before granting the increase....i know...i know the U.S. Secry of state..C Rice failed to do HER JOB....like i said.....the government is liable...UC SHOWED THE SYSTEM HOW CORRUPT IT IS>>>>>HE DID EVERYTHING WRONG AND GOT AWAY WITH IT TO PROVE TO THE REGULATORS HOW EASY IT IS TO FRAUD INVESTORS>>>>>A GOVERNMENT REGULATOR WHO GETS PAID TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO PREVENT THIS FRAUD...YET UC DID IT....
the REGULATOR belongs in jail...the REGULATOR should be reorganized and those officials sent to jail that didn't stop the fraud...including the secy of state!
put the blame where it belongs pedro....otherwise it will just go on and on and on and on....got to get to the proximate cause pedro...uc isn't the proximate cause of all of this NSS fraud. GET IT?
don't twist the meaning of nss.....or unregistered shares in cmkx...we both know july 2003 every share henceforth was UNREGISTERED AND NAKED SHORTED INTO THE TRILLIONS.
by a factor of 9...so says the sec
so much for your "brain-teaser"....let's call it just "warmed over hash"
not FACT not even "the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth...." JULY 2003 FORM 15........READ IT AND WEEP ALL SHARES WERE UNREGISTERED ON THAT DATE....
leowanta
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 17, 2008 18:30:05 GMT -5
By: CHUNKY44 17 Dec 2008, 03:57 PM EST Msg. 787432 of 787507 Jump to msg. #
Why would a couple of crooked insiders, a crooked attorney, and a crooked T/A think they could get away with this level of dumping? Why, the NSS Myth of course.
BRILLIANT!
By: rosencrantz2010 17 Dec 2008, 04:07 PM EST Msg. 787433 of 787507 (This msg. is a reply to 787432 by CHUNKY44.) Jump to msg. #
chunky, why did glenn get away with being a crooked attorney? something strange about that particular deal. glenn should have been named right along with the rest of them. since he's not, it suggests that deals were made allowing the bad guys to get away. and since some of the bad guys walked it also suggests all of the bad guys will walk, otherwise they could spill their guts about everything when the time was right for them.
these items do not add up.
something is not right about this whole matter.
By: mt.men 17 Dec 2008, 04:25 PM EST Msg. 787441 of 787507 (This msg. is a reply to 787433 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. #
rosencrantz What is amazing is that the NSS are still paying shills to discourage cert holders 4 years after we stopped trading.
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 17, 2008 18:31:34 GMT -5
By: CHUNKY44 17 Dec 2008, 04:25 PM EST Msg. 787442 of 787509 (This msg. is a reply to 787433 by rosencrantz2010.) Jump to msg. #
rosen, I don't know, maybe he knew that criminal intent would be extremely difficult to prove as it related to his activities. So, he might have cut a deal to cooperate with the SEC attorneys in the cases against the other participants. Just my conjecture.
By: rosencrantz2010 17 Dec 2008, 04:36 PM EST Msg. 787445 of 787508 (This msg. is a reply to 787442 by CHUNKY44.) Jump to msg. #
chunky, okay, but then the same logic would have to apply to the other lawyer(s). but wasn't the one guy named and blamed for everything? that's also strange since we know that glenn was "in charge" from summer, 2004 and there after. and yet the other guy takes the fall for all of it and glenn isn't even named. why did that one guy agree to take the fall?
and as i've said before, there is something weak about the way they describe events. i still find wiggle room for urban in the way they describe his participation.
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 17, 2008 18:33:08 GMT -5
By: adrienne07 17 Dec 2008, 05:05 PM EST Msg. 787458 of 787510 Jump to msg. #
He's absolutely right ! By: bhollenegg 17 Dec 2008, 04:12 AM EST Msg. 787293 of 787294 (This msg. is a reply to 787065 by rodgranite.) Jump to msg. # Rodgranite,
Naked shorting a stock with no intentions of paying for the stocks is counterfeiting. Counterfeiting a share, whether it is $.0001 or $1000, is still counterfeiting. Counterfeiting is illegal period.
Naked shorting a company affects past, present, and future values. Therefore, all legal stockholders of CMKX were victims. All legal stockholders of CMKX, Bona fide and not Bona fide, are due the compensation funds held by the DTCC.
Please thank your Treasury Source for confirming there are indeed compensation funds for CMKX Shareholders.
Thank you, BHollenegg
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 17, 2008 18:34:11 GMT -5
By: adrienne07 17 Dec 2008, 05:05 PM EST Msg. 787458 of 787510 Jump to msg. # He's absolutely right ! By: bhollenegg 17 Dec 2008, 04:12 AM EST Msg. 787293 of 787294 (This msg. is a reply to 787065 by rodgranite.) Jump to msg. # Rodgranite, Naked shorting a stock with no intentions of paying for the stocks is counterfeiting. Counterfeiting a share, whether it is $.0001 or $1000, is still counterfeiting. Counterfeiting is illegal period. Naked shorting a company affects past, present, and future values. Therefore, all legal stockholders of CMKX were victims. All legal stockholders of CMKX, Bona fide and not Bona fide, are due the compensation funds held by the DTCC. Please thank your Treasury Source for confirming there are indeed compensation funds for CMKX Shareholders. Thank you, BHollenegg By: rodgranite 17 Dec 2008, 05:05 PM EST Msg. 787459 of 787510 (This msg. is a reply to 787293 by bhollenegg.) Jump to msg. # That depends... on which source you choose to believe. If I am proven wrong then so be it. the real issue is one that we agree upon and that is the forthcoming payout.
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 17, 2008 18:34:48 GMT -5
By: rodgranite 17 Dec 2008, 05:12 PM EST Msg. 787465 of 787511 Jump to msg. #
I understand...
that there are a few paid basher positions available. 50 cents per post...1 dollar per reply generated. If it is determined that you are responsible for at least a 20% drop in a stock, using their proprietary "Price Drop Reaction Matrix", you will get a bonus. Those of you that qualify will be contacted.
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 17, 2008 18:35:23 GMT -5
By: winfall56 17 Dec 2008, 05:35 PM EST Msg. 787476 of 787511 Jump to msg. #
The BIG DAWG says the legal documents released today are great for the shareholders!
By: winfall56 17 Dec 2008, 05:35 PM EST Msg. 787478 of 787511 Jump to msg. #
If you knew what the BIG DAWG knows, you would be excited!
By: winfall56 17 Dec 2008, 05:36 PM EST Msg. 787480 of 787514 Jump to msg. #
The BIG DAWG has blown the siren!
By: winfall56 17 Dec 2008, 05:56 PM EST Msg. 787488 of 787514 Jump to msg. #
The BIG DAWG and big mikey are going to celebrate in style. We are going to have us some Chivas and a side of ribs.
We're getting paidddddddddddddddddddddddddd
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 17, 2008 18:40:30 GMT -5
ty sandi............................. By: AlanC 16 Dec 2008, 09:21 PM EST Msg. 1182026 of 1182032 (This msg. is a reply to 1182025 by jcline.) Jump to msg. # Kudos to all the warriors that have fought against the corruption in our markets. It is all starting to come out: Soon to be revealed... "Included in this mass of documents are hundreds of emails and instant message transcripts between hedge fund managers, their operatives and such “journalists” as Bethany McLean, Herb Greenberg, and Roddy Boyd" www.deepcapture.com/ ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=SRCI&read=1182026
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 17, 2008 18:46:48 GMT -5
CMKX#1 DIAMOND JEDI Re: buzz chat 12/16-17 « Reply #6 Yesterday at 10:48pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not sure where this increase in ETGMF shares to 800 Billion is coming from. The only thing I know for certain is ETGMF is trying to reverse split 20 to 1 on 12/23/08. Also, there is supposed to be a court date set for 2/09 for ETGMF and CMKM to settle or begin to settle what happens to the 45,000,000 shares of ETGMF that were supposed to come our way. Entourage announced in their last PR that they are trying to settle this out of court. They better hurry Feb 09 isn't far away. CMKX#1 millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=23811
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 17, 2008 18:48:35 GMT -5
swather DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Re: Weekly buzz chat 12/16-20 « Reply #11 Today at 1:24am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Gangus on an earlier post Everyone, you do realize that it is a reverse 20:1 for Entourage NOT CMKX. That would take Entourage shares and make the float from 100 Million to 5 million. Now you do the math of what you would get for your holdings in CMKX. So we will have the original 45 million divided by 20 and that equals 2.25 million. Now take that 2.25 million and divide that by the 603 BILLION that was on the counter when it stopped and you get 1 share of Entourage for every 268000 shares of CMKX if my math is right. Take that even further and times 20 by the current price and you get $0.30 per share. If you own 10 million shares of CMKX that would equate into 37 shares of Entourage at a price of $0.30 and your 10 million CMKX shares would leave you with $11.10 and NO CMKX shares if this rumor would be true. I do NOT find that acceptable for a share swap unless we get ALLOT of cash with each share of Entourage you get. I think this is probably a bogus rumor, it would NOT be in our interest IMHO. [image] Gangus millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=23811prisonguard DIAMOND JEDI Re: Weekly buzz chat 12/16-20 « Reply #13 Today at 6:47am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Swather......................the repost from Gangus re 100million A/S reducing to 5 million is not correct. According to the packet I recieved, the A/S was going to remain the same. It is the outstanding shares that are being reduced. According to Pinksheets.Com the O/S is Outstanding Shares 76,981,894 as of Dec 31, 2007....... www.pinksheets.com/pink/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=etgmf ..... and there are only Number of Share Holders of Record 103 as of Jun 30, 2008............. So IMO the figures above are incorrect. Please correct me if I'm wrong.AIMO
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 17, 2008 18:51:55 GMT -5
gangusgreen DIAMOND JEDI Re: Weekly buzz chat 12/16-20 « Reply #16 Today at 7:52am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today at 6:47am, prisonguard wrote: prisonguard, you are CORRECT the AUTHORIZED will remain at 100 Million, the outstanding shares would decrease and that would allow Entourage to SELL more "private placement" shares at the new price of $0.30 per share or less for the fact that they would probably be "restricted" for what ever that would be worth. This reverse split is NOT good for the current shareholders and would allow more dilution into the market at the expense of past shareholders equity . Entourage as far as we know have done NOTHING with the claims and in an MP3 Emerson Koch said that they took the money and ran to spend it on everything but there business model. Anyway I am just ranting now, but you get the idea of how this may go BAD. All IMHO FWIW Gangus millionaires.proboards86.com/inde....ay&thread=23811
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 17, 2008 18:54:38 GMT -5
tuscansun DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Unprecedented 'Just what we awaited'! « Thread Started Today at 4:27pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Madoff Ponzi Scheme is too perfectly orchestrated to 'come out' right now. He just NOW got this feeling at 70 to finally tell all... and just at THIS perfect time? We have gotten good at realizing bouncing balls are to either LOOK straight AT or to hurry and see whats going on the OTHER Direction. Madoff was FORCED at THIS perfect time to TELL his sons... and he HAD to DO it NOW. at 70 he didnt JUST get a conscience...lol... Perfect TIMING of this EVENT. It Sets the STAGE (and someone orchestrated this) for the public to see the SEC.. and YELLS for the public to look at the SEC..and the WEALTHY that LOST everything are NOW going to do OUR job! and THEY will be HEARD! It sets the stage for the highly Wealthy to scream... go public... and the HEARINGS will be AWESOME... Hooray for Maheu!!.. TIMING TIMING and END GAME! Don't forget we were the little peons in this... but the wealthy will do the yelling for us. Never turn your head on something that hits the Media now... and look for MORE awesome twists to occur in the end days of 2008... the OUTTING has to be swift now, imo.......and January 2009 will be a kicker ! The script was written.. we watch,...and oh, by the way... the MOVIE will be a HIT! Remember STING (Maheu on the SEC) STING had to go in gear by the SEC...against screwballs...to save face...we saw that with Spectre/Grassley/SEC years ago .. they got started... Triple STING... Maheu/Tyler..?? We will see.... but as long as the billions/trillions of dollars are now being talked about... No transparency... so no one knows WHO is getting money....hmmm perfect TIME to pay someone(s) that you dont want the world to know about because of sheer added embarrassment... and perfect TIMING for the SEC to brag about how long they have had a STING on the bad boyz...(oh yeah..lol ) they will slap this on the public next... trying to save face and a few positions in their Ivory Tower..(to no avail) Orchestrated TIMING... and we ARE seeing it hit the fan NOW! Orchestrated STINGS go AFTER big boyz..and Maheu knew WHO to go after ! millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=23830
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Post by chris on Dec 17, 2008 19:47:17 GMT -5
When I read tuscansun's post I swear she must be in la la land.
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Post by JoeRockss on Dec 17, 2008 22:48:09 GMT -5
By: aladin99 17 Dec 2008, 10:45 PM EST Msg. 787594 of 787595 Jump to msg. # I strongly believe that the REAL O/S is around 100B and RG/UC raised 600B more to struck the deal...SEC will never open their mouth about this kind of stuff......
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