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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 4, 2009 21:04:00 GMT -5
By: tuscan9
04 May 2009, 09:16 PM EDT
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revvie... aren't we glad we didn't get paid
when it was timed to do so..?
the dollar destabilized...
the Market has fallen...
the Banks have been outted..
oh, how smart it was to negotiate a stall on our payment...
I know how you pout.. but, most would have lost it, you included.. although, I must add... since that time.. you have attack the team so badly its scary how you may have to work for your money now... since you had years to show your true colors..
But, you are up to the job of waiting for awhile, after the Bonafides get paid, right?
Attackers are listed... checked twice and all that jazz, ya know.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 4, 2009 21:11:12 GMT -5
By: rosencrantz2010
04 May 2009, 07:50 PM EDT
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(Reply to 830675 by monetaryshift) Jump to msg. # monetary, who currently owns the 622B shares? someone has to own them? they were sold short (or FTD) into the market. so, who bought them? someone has to own all those shares sold into the market. i thought it was all of us, the small retail investor. i assumed urban promoted CMKX to tens of thousands of small time investors and encourage all of them to BUY, BUY, BUY. that scenario made the possibility of 10k, 20k, 40k, 60k investors a reality. and it also made sense that there would be 622B shares owned by all of those small time investors. now it is being suggested that there are ONLY 4,000 small time retail investors and only 17B shares were sold to them and that's all there is?!!! what??? what happened to the 622B that was dumped into the market? who bought all of those shares? if it wasn't us, the small time investor then who bought all those shares? By: monetaryshift
04 May 2009, 09:02 PM EDT
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(Reply to 830677 by rosencrantz2010) Jump to msg. # Rosie, Darlene asked me to tell you "The Stock Borrow Program", ie: counterfeiting proof"
04 May 2009, 09:23 PM EDT
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(Reply to 830692 by monetaryshift) Jump to msg. # monetary, please tell Darlene thanks for me but i'm still not sure who bought all those shares. she made a reference to the "stock borrow program" but how does that program solve the problem? they surely didn't buy the shares. we had to have bought those shares. or maybe urban bought those shares, but someone had to first buy those shares. so where are those shares and who owns them? now, i can see the stock borrower program being required to buy back those shares. that makes sense. and i can see that progrma being required to pay a penalty, but first it would be good to know who owned them to begin with, us or urban? the cleanest answer would be urban. that way he could control the whole process. but it's still hard for me to believe that all of us retail investors only bought 17B shares. weren't there some on board share counts that took place years ago where we came up with counts over 17B? it wouldn't take much to come up with 5B to 10B on thos board i bet. but,,, i don't know for sure. an interesting side not, my69z has long argued that there were far fewer shareholders and fewer shares out there than what was being promoted on this board. i always took the 622B number at face value along with the 40,000 to 60,000 shareholders. but there were others out there that questioned that and given this new info maybe they were right. By: monetaryshift
04 May 2009, 09:25 PM EDT
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(Reply to 830703 by rosencrantz2010) Jump to msg. # rosie, 4k is an interesting number By: rosencrantz2010
04 May 2009, 09:28 PM EDT
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(Reply to 830706 by monetaryshift) Jump to msg. # 4k. i don't see any significance. really. who cares? 1k, 4k, 10k. the only significance i see is that the total number of shareholders is unbelievably SMALL!! and the total number of shares is also SMALL compare to what we had been thinking. By: tuscan9
04 May 2009, 09:30 PM EDT
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(Reply to 830703 by rosencrantz2010) Jump to msg. # rosen, and there lies the leverage Urban had with the government.. The VALUE had to be there though to get the SEC/DTCC and whole clan to eventually address the issue via China... and other governments that would step in and take ALL the commodities out from under any grasp of the gov if they didn't get it together, aimo and move... |
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 4, 2009 21:13:38 GMT -5
By: baloney_cleaver
04 May 2009, 09:28 PM EDT
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tuscan! Where's the cash! Answer the question
By: rosencrantz2010
04 May 2009, 09:29 PM EDT
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baloney, who cares where the money is? if we return to trading with 17B shares and 4k shareholders and some property worth something we might have a stock that's worth a lot more than .0001 per share.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 4, 2009 21:16:44 GMT -5
By: snoopstock5
04 May 2009, 07:09 PM EDT
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They want you to take the .25 and not the stock. Most likely the hedge funds and companies are a part of it also.
By: sully47
04 May 2009, 09:41 PM EDT
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snoop.....most of us will take the $.25 and run! End of story!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 4, 2009 21:19:08 GMT -5
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 4, 2009 21:33:55 GMT -5
sully47
DIAMOND JEDI MASTER
Re: Update #6, Final initial assessment 4/27
« Reply #118 Today at 1:46pm » basic.......omegapoint is going to the courthouse in Vegas next week to collect info on Hurd case. When I talked to him yesterday we zeroed in on what is really needed......share counts, and the attorneys that represented Hurd. He feels strongly that we need to hire a big law firm on contingency if possible. We'll see! Regards.
DIAMOND JEDI MASTER
From omegapoint......
« Thread Started Today at 6:13pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "I checked out the pleadings in Hurd vs. CMKM et al, Civil Action CV-00215. Hurd allegedly represented himself in propria persona. The complaint was very well-written. The complaint contained 11 causes of action. Citing health issues, Hurd filed a Motion to Withdraw Complaint on 6-29-07, which was subsequently granted on 9-27-07. The health issues Hurd cited as the reason for his filing the Motion to Withdraw Complaint might have been valid; or the Motion to Withdraw Complaint might have been part of an an out-of-court settlement that he reached with the defendants." Thank you, Robert |
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 5, 2009 10:19:52 GMT -5
ty seagull
By: starlight
The 40,000-60,000 shareholder number we kept hearing about for the past 3+ years always seemed a bit high to me. I think that most of us found out about CMKX stock from a family member or friend. I would place the number of personal recruits at around 3-5 per person on an average (some more and certainly some less).
So if we take the number of 2,000 that Tuscan has suggested as the number of shareholders who used to be active on the boards and multiply that times 3 or 5 then we would come up with 6,000-10,000 possible shareholders.
But let's not forget the number of shareholders who got spooked and sold out before revocation and also the number of stubborn shareholders who simply refused to order certs.
We could have easily lost half of our shareholder base before revocation!
When Acca was interviewed by Mark Faulk in Aug. 2006 he stated that he released the Citi/Salomon Smith Barney buyout rumor to keep CMKX shareholders from selling before revocation, but when someone is "spooked" then there is only so much you can do to keep them from jumping ship...
Then the number of just 4,000 shareholders is within the realm of possibility...!!!
If correct....then this would change everything...!!!
Cheers!!
Starlight
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 5, 2009 10:20:39 GMT -5
ty mgl
By: oil.ipo
05 May 2009, 06:09 AM EDT
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There are a number of factors between "them" and "us" so to speak, but what I was referring to in referencing Wodan/Mano was simple. Start with Darlene's reduction in the registered/recorded number of shareholders. That just increased your share of the pie 10 fold. The rest of the numbers surely lie in OS, VALUATION, and mainly who will ultimately eat (part with) more pie.
SEMANTICS TODAY, but if those numbers are correct, Yes WODAN is a hero, and so is MANO. I can be as critical as the next guy on any of these threads, and my history is out there. I cut no slack.
Ripping at me is worthless, it's always been like the weather forecast until we are actually @ payday- as far as I am concerned anyway.
AIMVHO
OIl
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 5, 2009 10:55:45 GMT -5
By: jboydwv
05 May 2009, 09:24 AM EDT
By: carquest44
02 Apr 2008, 03:12 PM EDT
Msg. 696279 of 714049
(This msg. is a reply to 696258 by elvis-is-here.)
elvis,
Nothing as changed, it's just a bloody war......GOOD vs EVIL.....RIGHT vs WRONG! I had mentioned many many months ago that our foes are very formidable and well financed, as you all know by now since the war rages on. I absolutely believe in a positive roi. However i'm of the opinion that we need to hear from not one but two different enities(in pr form)before we can move forward. Have really must go now, take care all.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 5, 2009 10:56:35 GMT -5
By: snoopstock5
05 May 2009, 09:29 AM EDT
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There are more than 17b. You all forget that UC and family were not going to be included in the divy. UC and family owns approximately 8.9b. Add those two together. As for the 9.6b that are being held by other companies, I don't know if that number was included in the 639b that the task force counter was approximately at. So all in all, it could be as low as 28b to 38b.
Also, the task force talking about 40,000 to 70,000 shareholders was not quoted as bona fide. Anyone that shorts a stock in a margin account still is a shareholder until they buy back their share. Now what if you sold and shorted the 144 restricted shares into one trust to another trust? Or if you sold and shorted the shares into one phony account to another. After all, if the land was as valuable as is said, why would insiders sell shorted their 144 restricted shares to other people? The crooks still had to buy back the shares they shorted and sold into numerous trust or offshore accounts with phoney names. So if you take 622b and sell it short 3, 4, 5 times, how many times would the shares have been surrendered? 622b? 1.244T? 1.866T? 2.488T? 3.11T? 5T? 7T.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 5, 2009 10:58:53 GMT -5
By: sully47
04 May 2009, 09:41 PM EDT
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snoop.....most of us will take the $.25 and run! End of story!
By: joesixpack333
05 May 2009, 10:06 AM EDT
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sully.. you can shove the 2 bits.. ROFL.. we won't trade again.. although that 17b share count has me puzzled.. I have my own exit plan on the off chance we do trade.. I have only 23m but intend to play with 3m and ride out the rest.. I hear conglomerate shares could go into the hundreds of dollars per share and provide dividends for eons to come.. and that beats 2 bits..
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 5, 2009 11:00:29 GMT -5
 glutton for punishment ?? By: redtopbill539fl
05 May 2009, 10:07 AM EDT
Rating: Msg. 830785 of 830820 Jump to msg. # Anyone have a good penny stock for me today?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 5, 2009 11:04:17 GMT -5
By: mquietstorm3
05 May 2009, 11:34 AM EDT
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" A WISEMAN ONCE SAID "EXTRACT MAXIMUM VALEUE" and "I AM HERE FOR THE SHAREHOLDERS" Does anyone know what that means if you do not own?
" WAS THE WISEMAN WRONG OR DID HE CONDITIONED THE ATMOSPHERE "
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 5, 2009 11:05:32 GMT -5
By: oil.ipo
05 May 2009, 11:39 AM EDT
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If the GOVERNMENT wants an accounting for their STRESS test all they need to do is publish their monitored findings of all active CMKM shareholders (in and around these forums) of record over the past 2-4 years. There is enough stress and destruction to lives as a result of financial damages sustained resulting in INJURY to fulfill their findings and conclude that the SEC/DTCC, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is accountable, and needs to get the overdue restitution out to all of the shareholders of record NOW, and not wait another day. The damage is done, impact affecting lives + growing daily, and reparations still unpaid.
People have waited beyond time.
AIMHO2~
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on May 5, 2009 11:07:24 GMT -5
By: mquietstorm3
05 May 2009, 11:56 AM EDT
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" POWER OF THE PEOPLE LIE IN ITS LAND OWNERSHIP AND EVERY THING THAT IS ON IT AND HAVE THE DOCUMENTATION TO PROVE IT " enjoy uor day!
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