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Post by soonerlew on Jan 18, 2010 14:28:43 GMT -5
By: yetihunter04 18 Jan 2010, 01:38 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902168 of 902200 (Reply to 902163 by gusjarvis)
Jump to msg. # gus, i posted this last week, calling on hodges for some transparency to unite the shareholders behind verifiable FACTS (if he has them):
****************** here's my thoughts and main question after reading posts from different people (including the plaintiffs) over the past several weeks who have been able to talk to hodges and associates:
1) most of these posts seem to claim, or allude to the "fact," that there is money that was set aside for shareholders. some, like wyatt, even go so far as to speculate on pps, etc.
2) hodges was supposedly told this by a "source" or "inside man" FROM the SEC.
3) payment has repeatedly been "imminent" only to be delayed yet again by someone, or the money was moved for some reason, etc etc etc and now the process (whatever that is) has to start all over again (which makes no sense to me).
4) hodges filed the bivens, so i assume he has undeniable (able to stand up in court) proof that this money/trust exists, or it makes no sense...he'd be laughed out of the courtroom...or the case would just be thrown out.
IF THIS IS ALL TRUE:
if this is all true, and hodges has undeniable proof that this money/trust exists, then why not make it public knowledge? more importantly, why not tell the 40,000+ shareholders that are hanging on his every action?? he filed the bivens, which means if this goes to court soon, it's all gonna be public knowledge when it comes out in court.
if this money/trust does exist, then it's OUR MONEY! and someone/some group has been inexplicably holding it up for years.
here's why hodges should tell the shareholders: think about this....if hodges told the 40,000+ shareholders of CMKX the absolute supposed truth...
yes, there is money... here is the name of the trust... here is how much is in it... here are the people holding it up...
i GUARANTEE you there would be massive, organized efforts to get this done! i could see 40,000 people marching on washington, or camping out on the doorsteps of the SEC, the DOJ, whatever, DEMANDING OUR MONEY be released! THAT would get the attention of the national press as well! that is, IF THERE WAS PROOF!
yet we are always kept in the dark. we are the laughing stock because there is no announced proof. only rumors. only dates that come and go.
if hodges wants help finishing this off...all he has to do is give us the proof. no more rumors. no more "we thought payment was imminent, but now it's not." PROOF.
then you'll see action from 40,000 people like you've never seen before.
until then, it's just rumor and false hope, which we've been living with for 6+ years.
al hodges, as people used to say to Urban, "release the hounds!"
--yeti *******************
By: gusjarvis 18 Jan 2010, 01:52 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902180 of 902200 (Reply to 902168 by yetihunter04)
Jump to msg. # yeti good questions, and the answer is they still
need cmkx's leverage apparently
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 18, 2010 14:29:16 GMT -5
By: planter82 18 Jan 2010, 01:45 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902173 of 902201 (Reply to 902154 by gusjarvis)
Jump to msg. # gusjarvis WE ALL WANT IT NOW!!!!!!!! TAKE IT BY THE NUMBERS AND LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY FALL
By: gusjarvis 18 Jan 2010, 01:53 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902181 of 902201 (Reply to 902173 by planter82)
Jump to msg. # planter that is just it, they never wanted the chips
to fall at all, or maybe they planned when they would all fall, we will see.
But you are right, we all deserve the truth now, no more games
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Post by enoughalready on Jan 18, 2010 14:35:03 GMT -5
We haven't heard from the RealJBonds in weeks. Someone please tell Sheila she hasn't been right once yet..
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 18, 2010 14:44:29 GMT -5
By: briwaddtx 18 Jan 2010, 02:17 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902206 of 902227
Jump to msg. # bhollenegg
What do you make of your fellow plantiffs running their mouth all over Pal Talk. Am I to believe that certain plantiffs are privy to more info than others. Are things Shiela saying true or false? You seem to be a little more guarded than the others; however, you are all represented by the same firm. I would think if Al Hodges did not approve of his clients spewing info, he would put his foot down. It seems they are running around without restraints. This does not benefit your cause IMO. Once the week comes and goes with no new developments, people will begain to view Hodges the same way they view Sheila and Wyatt....All IMO
Briwadd
By: nufced 18 Jan 2010, 02:33 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902220 of 902228 (Reply to 902206 by briwaddtx)
Jump to msg. # briwadd...welcome to the loonier bin! Membermarked, thanks for Dennis Smith emails you made.
By: dgl 18 Jan 2010, 02:42 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902227 of 902231 (Reply to 902206 by briwaddtx)
Jump to msg. # Briwad some people are more vocal then others.Bob keeps information closer to the vest and presents it in a different way then Shelia, Reece and Cluney.Hodges is well aware of the rumors, which are really not rumors at all to them because they have come from Al. The question is what Al is telling them is actually complete facts?
Al wants all these rumors out to the Shareholders to get them to push politically when nothing happens. All information presented is calculated, such as the Dateline interview, to put pressure on someone or some entity.The rumors of vast wealth, i suppose, are greatly embellished to put an even greater amount of pressure.
Sorry, didn't mean to answer for Bob, but i couldn't help myself. I'm sure Bob feels opposite of what i have said on the pressure/money part though.
By: bhollenegg 18 Jan 2010, 02:49 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902235 of 902238 (Reply to 902206 by briwaddtx)
Jump to msg. # Briwaddtx...it falls in the same category as posting the source. At this stage, caution should be exercised until confirmation is 100% and from Attorney Hodges.
Thank you, BHollenegg
By: briwaddtx 18 Jan 2010, 02:49 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902236 of 902238 (Reply to 902227 by dgl)
Jump to msg. # You missed my point..
If what Sheila and Wyatt are saying is true, and Al is well aware they are spewing on the internet, then he needs to confirm this in an update from Hodges and Associates. We are well beyond these childish 'meet me in pal talk at 7:00pm' tactics.
Allowing his plantiffs to discuss issues on the internet that have not been released by the firm, is a mistake IMO. To imply that this is a tactic of Al, is silly at best.
Briwadd
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 18, 2010 14:49:24 GMT -5
By: bhollenegg 18 Jan 2010, 02:36 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902223 of 902234 (Reply to 902202 by TheCynic) Jump to msg. # TheCynic...you stated "CMKX produced absolutely ZERO as a mining company..........except for two micro/nano diamond flakes. That is a fact........ " Are you sure? Here are some fact... EXCERPT FROM STOECKLEIN’S LETTER DATE July 28, 2005 Following the payment of the non-refundable $25,000 fee, CMKM and its associated professionals cooperated with you fully. You were encouraged to engage a geologist of your choice to travel with you to Canada to witness CMKM's ongoing drilling program and meet with CMKM's professionals handling the Canadian operations. In addition, several offers were made to you to take a trip to Ecuador, again with any professionals you deemed necessary, to observe a gold pour at the Yellow River facility where ore from the American Shaft was being processed. sec.edgar-online.com/2005/07/29/0001077048-05-000410/Section4.asp
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 18, 2010 14:58:14 GMT -5
sictransitgloria DIAMOND MINER Re: Sheilayea1 on CMKX « Reply #54 Today at 2:17pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's something to wonder about: Let's say you were a plaintiff in Hodges suit. Let's say that in your exuberance you posted to a BB or on Paltalk that a payout was coming and it was going to end on a specific date. Presumably you actually believed this when you posted it. Now, let's say that date comes and goes. What would your reaction be to all of the shareholders who are asking, "Hey, what's going on here? I thought you said we were getting paid?" I don't know about you, but if it were me, I'd apologize for misleading folks, even if I believed that I was telling the truth when I did post dates and amounts. Neither Sheila nor Wyatt has so much as approached an apology. There's almost no acknowledgement that the predictions of wealth were unfulfilled. Here's the disturbing part: this refusal to admit wrong is not consistent with someone who was being honest in the first place. Rather, the refusal to admit wrong is consistent with someone who knew all along that they were exaggerating or making up out of whole cloth the entire story. Look at Acca. He never, ever apologized for his unfulfilled words. He would address them, from time to time, but only to say that he was just passing information along and that his sources were wrong. There was never any addressing of the damage (psychological and otherwise) to people who believed his words. The same is true of Sheila and Wyatt. They never look back, only forward, to the next prediction. millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=28921&page=3
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 18, 2010 15:07:10 GMT -5
bikinipro Mini Mod Gossip Column Queen Re: The Weekly Buzz 01/18 « Reply #7 Today at 3:03pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today at 11:16am, bikinipro wrote: portrush Administrator So its NOT tuesday after all? Appears to be that way, based on what Sheila is saying in this update. Another one of the 7 told me...pay no attention to the dates or the amounts. Al knows what he is doing, just hang in there. Sheila, I sincerely thank you and your compadres for stepping up and engaging Al. It appears things have moved much faster as a result. I only hope you see that each time a deadline we hear about passes without event, a little chunk of the shareholder's heart and trust goes along with it. Tuesday day works for me. I am out of town on business at the moment, but I can handle a Tuesday announcement just fine. pr millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=28935
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 18, 2010 15:13:34 GMT -5
ming117 Diamond Finder and Miner Re: It is Finished by Tuesday « Reply #22 Today at 2:25am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- what exactly is finished by tuesday? the interview for Dateline? the audit of the fed? the introduction of the new trasury dollar? or finally the settlement? eveybody immediately thinks about the settlement, but was that really what she was referring to? didn't we hear that a few times before??? troutback Junior Miner Re: It is Finished by Tuesday « Reply #23 Today at 8:02am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ming, from my understanding Discovery starts on day 14 and no one wants that. Madoff was settled in 13 days for a reason. (tramp gets the credit for this). Lets look at our ammunition 1) Sting with all gov't entities included. They are all culpable. 2) possible airing of dateline. 3) Our money has already been collected 4) Rico was just added to our suit. 5) We have the best attorney working on our behalf. 6) etc etc etc tb « Last Edit: Today at 8:03am by troutback » tramp Administrator Re: It is Finished by Tuesday « Reply #26 Today at 9:25am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- sec must pay us first.. and then as we always heard, 1 or 2 weeks later the packet.. i expect 2 weeks.. and wait for whats in the packet.. all this guess about the packet is pointless at the moment, cross that bridge when you get there.. SEC must come first.. nss money..joe public sees 2 1/2 cents...thats it.. we see higher.. tramp2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=11173&page=2
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 18, 2010 15:22:55 GMT -5
By: bhollenegg 18 Jan 2010, 02:49 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902235 of 902238 (Reply to 902206 by briwaddtx)
Jump to msg. # Briwaddtx...it falls in the same category as posting the source. At this stage, caution should be exercised until confirmation is 100% and from Attorney Hodges.
Thank you, BHollenegg
By: briwaddtx 18 Jan 2010, 02:52 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902239 of 902274 (Reply to 902235 by bhollenegg)
Jump to msg. # I disagree Bhollenegg....
When plantiffs speak, people automatically assume the source is their counsel. In fact, this morning Sheila made reference to the fact Al was her source. So I guess my question to you is, does Sheila and Wyatt have access to information that Al has not provided you.
Briwadd
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 18, 2010 15:24:17 GMT -5
By: maxpower3180 18 Jan 2010, 02:55 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902245 of 902278 (Reply to 902241 by bhollenegg)
Jump to msg. # Bob, Have you seen proof of a trust for the cmkx shareholders beyond the connect the dots DD? Actual physical proof? You seem like a man of integrity who would answer truthfully. TIA.
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 18, 2010 15:25:06 GMT -5
By: bigfork2 18 Jan 2010, 03:03 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902252 of 902280
Jump to msg. # Bhollenegg, thank for everything you, the other plaintiffs and Al Hodges are doing for us. I appreciate it more than words can say. So simply, thank you.
Bigfork
By: bhollenegg 18 Jan 2010, 04:02 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902312 of 902315 (Reply to 902252 by bigfork2)
Jump to msg. # Thank you Bigfork2...Attorney Hodges is doing his best to resolve this as quick as possible.
Thank you again Bigfork2, BHollenegg
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 18, 2010 15:25:33 GMT -5
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 18, 2010 15:47:25 GMT -5
By: briwaddtx 18 Jan 2010, 02:49 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902236 of 902297 (Reply to 902227 by dgl)
Jump to msg. # You missed my point..
If what Sheila and Wyatt are saying is true, and Al is well aware they are spewing on the internet, then he needs to confirm this in an update from Hodges and Associates. We are well beyond these childish 'meet me in pal talk at 7:00pm' tactics.
Allowing his plantiffs to discuss issues on the internet that have not been released by the firm, is a mistake IMO. To imply that this is a tactic of Al, is silly at best.
Briwadd
By: bhollenegg 18 Jan 2010, 03:39 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902290 of 902296 (Reply to 902236 by briwaddtx)
Jump to msg. # Briwaddtx...I believe you addressed this with the law firm already. I do not personally know Wyatt or Sheila. I was not made aware of the information until they shared the information with the Shareholders.
You are concerned with the Plaintiffs' providing information to the Shareholders, yet you did the same thing after speaking with the law firm. Where do you draw the line?
Thank you, BHollenegg
By: briwaddtx 18 Jan 2010, 03:46 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902297 of 902299 (Reply to 902290 by bhollenegg)
Jump to msg. # You can't compare the two..
I called the law firm as an anonymous individual. The information that I provided was generic in nature that would be provided to anyone that called the firm.
Some of the info coming from the plantiffs is more specific and is info that would likely only be known to plantiffs.
Please don't misinterpret my intentions here. I support Hodges and Associates in what they are trying to accomplish. I am just a little concerned that shareholders that currently are on board will jump ship if Sheila and Wyatts rumors continue to prove false. It sheds a negative light on what Al and Dennis are trying to accomplish. Do you disagree?
Briwadd
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 18, 2010 15:49:39 GMT -5
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Post by soonerlew on Jan 18, 2010 15:52:39 GMT -5
By: richerob 18 Jan 2010, 03:52 PM EST Rating: Msg. 902300 of 902300
Jump to msg. # Hi bhollenegg, thank you for your conservative and honest posts . Btw do you know off hand when you will receive another update from Hodge?
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