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Post by squeezebox on Jun 16, 2010 11:12:30 GMT -5
what's the can of worms?
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Post by TallyHo on Jun 16, 2010 13:11:15 GMT -5
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Post by Warren_Pease on Jun 16, 2010 13:31:15 GMT -5
What TallyHo said.
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Post by squeezebox on Jun 16, 2010 13:36:41 GMT -5
Thats about what I would expect from you two. Seriously, what part of that is a can of worms opening? I really would like to know
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Post by TallyHo on Jun 16, 2010 13:43:06 GMT -5
Lol...
Think he is refering to is that these two settlements are said to be part of the trusts that have to be funded before our money is released. If the American Indian Settlement is delayed any further than 7/11, then we are pushing into our hearing date of 7/19.......hence the can of worms.
You must hate my sense of humor.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 16, 2010 14:29:19 GMT -5
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Post by squeezebox on Jun 16, 2010 15:12:42 GMT -5
Lol... Think he is refering to is that these two settlements are said to be part of the trusts that have to be funded before our money is released. If the American Indian Settlement is delayed any further than 7/11, then we are pushing into our hearing date of 7/19.......hence the can of worms. You must hate my sense of humor. No Tally I don't hate it I just want to know why that is a can of worms? How is having those dates close to each other a can of worms? please splain it to me/
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Post by TallyHo on Jun 16, 2010 15:34:03 GMT -5
Well, I'm of course not the OP of the topic, so I'm assuming here.
I took it as if congress doesn't approve the Indian Settlement before the Motion to Dismiss hearing, then AH will have to proceed with the lawsuit and make a lot of information public that would otherwise not be made public if these two trusts get funded and we get ER before this gets publicly displayed in court.
from wiki
To "open up a can of worms" is a slang phrase that indicates that there will now be a lot of trouble for starting something that will not be easily resolved. Also implied is that it need not have been started.
So.......the trouble would be the proof being laid out in a public forum when it really didn't need to be if these trusts would have just been funded before the court date, giving us ER.
That is all my guess of course, but just what I took out of his post. I'm sure the OP will explain it at some point.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 16, 2010 15:57:33 GMT -5
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 16, 2010 16:04:02 GMT -5
By: gusjarvis 16 Jun 2010, 04:30 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 941402 of 941408 it is funny some are just reading the actual complaints filed against bill for the first time, some were just conditioned to not agree with it and to vocally bash the idea and what we were doing. Most didn't even read the amazing document put together, with facts others have never seen as omega has the depositions, although redacted a lot. The multi pronged attack using this and other evidence gathered is coming this week, it is time to put the pressure on and say it is not going to july. If you haven't read this whole paper you really need to imo: cmkx.info/CMKM-COMPLAINT-05-24-2010.pdf If you haven't read the first paper by omegapoint it proves beyond any shadow of doubt that this was sting or the SEC colluded with corrupt CMKX management and the OG: cmkx.info/omegapaper110309.html The SEC is proven beyond a reasonable doubt corrupt here in one evidence package, with another ready which proves the connections of top SEC officials to the cover up of operation uptick and the fact they worked with Bernie Madoff to create a rigged system. This is just a brief history of SEC corruption focusing on naked shorting: cmkx.info/CMKM-BRIEF-HISTORY-OF-SEC-CORRUPTION-2010-06-08.pdf Together our evidence is overwhelming, and it is time to use it. It is time for all shareholders to come together and make a stand. It is time for our own company to be real.
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Post by jayhawk1 on Jun 17, 2010 6:57:54 GMT -5
Let's ponder this for a moment... First, let's read through this section.. "The twenty-page complaint states the SEC, DoJ and the DHS, "consented to, facilitated and supported the conferences between Robert A. Maheu and his associates on the one hand and the wrongdoing short sellers on the other, all for the purpose of settling the potential liability of said wrongdoers with consent of the US Government and a representation of no criminal prosecution for such illegal sales." According to Al Hodges filing, between March 2004 and August 2006 a settlement was reached on behalf of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. by Maheu, with assistance from others, and the alleged wrongdoers who had engaged in naked short selling of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. stock and cellar boxing the company. "In exchange for a US Government promise of no prosecution for such sales, the wrongdoers each promised to pay negotiated amounts to a frozen trust for disbursal at a later time." markets.kiplinger.com/freelunch/news/read?GUID=12293670I take the above to mean, According to Hodges, that the US Gov't (the SEC & DOJ) worked out a deal and facilitated this "settlement" so that people would aviod jail time...Is that fair? So, if the SEC, Maheu and his associates (which could mean Frizzell, West, Stoecklein & Hodges or none of them) brokered a deal....and it is in the bank and exists according to BHollenegg. Why would Gus Jarvis try to screw that up? If this Trust really exists and if Al has the goods, that means there was a meeting, funds were collected and the SEC facilitated it. Why would Gus Jarvis try to piss off the SEC now and have them circle the wagons and take it out on Hodges and the shareholders by fighting or delaying payment? Sounds like Gus is inadvertently fighting Hodges, and Bhollenegg is applauding him.
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Post by mailman78 on Jun 17, 2010 7:34:00 GMT -5
jay You're beyond SILLY now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by scorpion on Jun 17, 2010 8:08:09 GMT -5
I believe that Gus wants what we all want, closure with a financial settlement. Gus's efforts should be applauded, no one else (Shareholders) besides John Martin have really done anything else. To finalize, Gus is merely keeping the pressure on and Hollenegg agrees with that. No pressure means that timelines are extended, out of site out of mind. Agree or not I could care less Let's ponder this for a moment... First, let's read through this section.. "The twenty-page complaint states the SEC, DoJ and the DHS, "consented to, facilitated and supported the conferences between Robert A. Maheu and his associates on the one hand and the wrongdoing short sellers on the other, all for the purpose of settling the potential liability of said wrongdoers with consent of the US Government and a representation of no criminal prosecution for such illegal sales." According to Al Hodges filing, between March 2004 and August 2006 a settlement was reached on behalf of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. by Maheu, with assistance from others, and the alleged wrongdoers who had engaged in naked short selling of CMKM Diamonds, Inc. stock and cellar boxing the company. "In exchange for a US Government promise of no prosecution for such sales, the wrongdoers each promised to pay negotiated amounts to a frozen trust for disbursal at a later time." markets.kiplinger.com/freelunch/news/read?GUID=12293670I take the above to mean, According to Hodges, that the US Gov't (the SEC & DOJ) worked out a deal and facilitated this "settlement" so that people would aviod jail time...Is that fair? So, if the SEC, Maheu and his associates (which could mean Frizzell, West, Stoecklein & Hodges or none of them) brokered a deal....and it is in the bank and exists according to BHollenegg. Why would Gus Jarvis try to screw that up? If this Trust really exists and if Al has the goods, that means there was a meeting, funds were collected and the SEC facilitated it. Why would Gus Jarvis try to piss off the SEC now and have them circle the wagons and take it out on Hodges and the shareholders by fighting or delaying payment? Sounds like Gus is inadvertently fighting Hodges, and Bhollenegg is applauding him.
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Post by sunbeam777 on Jun 17, 2010 8:55:00 GMT -5
Monaisa Smiles: I am hearing things are going on in the background..more than we will know..and that payday is imminent..hour to hour still. Pay NO attention to the court dates.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jun 17, 2010 9:32:38 GMT -5
By: oil.ipo 16 Jun 2010, 08:19 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 941456 of 941539 (Reply to 941290 by oil.ipo) Desperado- Desperado2100: "This is just the beginning of tricks to delay going to trial... IMO, you ain't seen nuttin yet, as far as time extension are concerned"
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Smart, and calculating man Desperado is. This would essentially be the point where the tires meet the road. IOW- Either it's coming or it ain't for all CMKXR's of record. For real this time. If Mr. Hodges, 'Attorney Hodges' is truly the MAHEU disciple then the release of funds is not going to be run up unto, until the next court date. Because at that point things are transparent. The fact that the defendants would delay any discovery for motion of dismissal including additional briefing time in itself is VERY suspect and leans back towards the plaintiffs cause of action (positively so), and justifies more financial motivations on the defendants side (greed).
Let's see it Mr. Hodges.
AIMHO,
Oil
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