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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 9, 2010 9:52:02 GMT -5
johnjrambothe2nd God of Diamonds Re: Updated Daily!! RUMORS ....Believe em' or NOT « Reply #295 on Jul 7, 2010, 10:14pm » By: 1billionplus 07 Jul 2010, 04:14 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 945458 of 945533 Jump to msg. # Many shareholders don't know, that the BATTLE/hold up is over people not getting paid who bought shares after trading was halted and are not considered Bonafide shareholders.These people bought shares from the deli dog and WILL NOT be included in the distribution. Yes they can register thier shares with the TA but they WILL NOT GET PAID. IF ABOVE IS TRUE:Well, in this case there may be an obvious conflict of interest; what if any Of the plaintiffs or Mr. Hodges bought post revocation.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 9, 2010 9:53:29 GMT -5
portrush Diamond Wiz (Moderator)By: 1billionplus 07 Jul 2010, 04:14 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 945458 of 945533 Jump to msg. # Many shareholders don't know, that the BATTLE/hold up is over people not getting paid who bought shares after trading was halted and are not considered Bonafide shareholders.These people bought shares from the deli dog and WILL NOT be included in the distribution. Yes they can register thier shares with the TA but they WILL NOT GET PAID. My understanding is that this isn't correct. Those that purchased from Deli have received bonafide certs from the company and new TA. I'll be doggone if I don't understand how the man can continue to sell them...but he is and they are being approved by Kevin West. pr
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 9, 2010 9:54:18 GMT -5
PR, My understanding is that this isn't correct. Those that purchased from Deli have received bonafide certs from the company and new TA. I'll be doggone if I don't understand how the man can continue to sell them...but he is and they are being approved by Kevin West. pr WoW ! some pretty bold statements, you have made here. Ok... I have heard the rumor that Deli was selling again, but now you state it as fact. And the BIG ZINGER is your statement (as fact) that they are still being approved by Kevin West.... Even with the SEC & other alphabet agencies breathing down everyone's necks?? .....again WoW !! From where/who? .. or how did you become privy to this information? TIA SINGLE
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 9, 2010 9:54:55 GMT -5
Duc N Altum Diamond Hunter PR, My understanding is that this isn't correct. Those that purchased from Deli have received bonafide certs from the company and new TA. I'll be doggone if I don't understand how the man can continue to sell them...but he is and they are being approved by Kevin West. pr WoW ! some pretty bold statements, you have made here. Ok... I have heard the rumor that Deli was selling again, but now you state it as fact. And the BIG ZINGER is your statement (as fact) that they are still being approved by Kevin West.... Even with the SEC & other alphabet agencies breathing down everyone's necks?? .....again WoW !! From where/who? .. or how did you become privy to this information? TIA SINGLE My thoughts too SINGLE. The whole issue is not that if he were STILL selling then the shares should not count. Instead, look at it as it was said by Frizzell a couple weeks back in 06 after Bill Frizzell made an update about a BULK CERT situation of where these particular BULK CERTS the task force was made aware of and that they were not going to be counted in the cert pull. Around 2 weeks after Bill Frizzells statement of the BULK CERTS SITUATION, Bill publicly said that Deli's shares were good. And also was it not always thrown around that a share was a share and if that thought is thrown around in this example, if Deli's shares are in fact good as Bill Frizzell said back in 06, then what would make the difference at the present time? Time should not be of an issue, if a share is a share, is the way I see it and also someone who was a part of the cert pull filtering process like Bill Frizzell, I would take his word over anyone outside of that circle. All in my opinion!
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 9, 2010 9:56:23 GMT -5
WoW ! some pretty bold statements, you have made here. Ok... I have heard the rumor that Deli was selling again, but now you state it as fact. And the BIG ZINGER is your statement (as fact) that they are still being approved by Kevin West.... Even with the SEC & other alphabet agencies breathing down everyone's necks?? .....again WoW !! From where/who? .. or how did you become privy to this information? TIA SINGLE My thoughts too SINGLE. The whole issue is not that if he were STILL selling then the shares should not count. Instead, look at it as it was said by Frizzell a couple weeks back in 06 after Bill Frizzell made an update about a BULK CERT situation of where these particular BULK CERTS the task force was made aware of and that they were not going to be counted in the cert pull. Around 2 weeks after Bill Frizzells statement of the BULK CERTS SITUATION, Bill publicly said that Deli's shares were good. And also was it not always thrown around that a share was a share and if that thought is thrown around in this example, if Deli's shares are in fact good as Bill Frizzell said back in 06, then what would make the difference at the present time? Time should not be of an issue, if a share is a share, is the way I see it and also someone who was a part of the cert pull filtering process like Bill Frizzell, I would take his word over anyone outside of that circle. All in my opinion! Ok, I see your point in that the timing should not make a difference, and back when, that Frizzell said Deli's shares were good. But, I am still confused on why or how this still could be happening, and whose shares Deli is selling at this time. If I remember correctly, back a few years ago (2005 I believe) ... Deli was supposedly helping some members from TOGI to dump their shares, after they got an inkling (only privy to them) that all was not well , in CMKXland. They were dumping, all the while pumping... and we not privy, to the same info, were buying. The SEC files charges against Deli, for (I think) making a market in CMKX shares, and he is still awaiting hearing? I am going by memory, so I could be completely off base here, but I seem to remember in the SEC docs reading that Deli had very few shares left of his own. I am still confused on what ? who's ? why's ? and how? this is still going on & with the approval of Kevin West. Is there something being accomplished here? Is there a reason behind these activities? Sorry, just trying to get this straight in my own mind..... just doesn't make sense to me. SINGLE
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 9, 2010 9:57:10 GMT -5
jcnelson298 Diamond Hunter Re: Updated Daily!! RUMORS ....Believe em' or NOT « Reply #303 Yesterday at 10:22am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Here is a thought ,,, A few days ago some one put out a list of brokers and market makers and banks that were holding shares in CMKM Diamonds,,,, WHAT IF They were only holding IOU'S and Deli had the real CERT's for those shares .... Once Deli sell all his cert's to individuals and they receive them , they get their own cert..
Once settlement is PR'ED then all of these mm'ers < bankers <brokers would have to settle at settlement price to pay their clients...
JUST A THOUGHT
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 9, 2010 9:58:01 GMT -5
briwadd Diamondologist Re: Updated Daily!! RUMORS ....Believe em' or NOT « Reply #304 Yesterday at 11:30am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It is my understandng that Al has agreed to show Allan Treffrey the evidence. I believe that Allan is a California attorney that offices fairly close to Al and that Al stated that he will show him the evidence one on one because the phone lines are compromised.
So does anyone know when this meeting is suppose to occur? I know Allan is controversial and some don't care for him; however, as far as the plantiffs go, I value his opinion the most...Simply for the fact that he doesn't paint everything in a rosey manner. If Allan, being an attorney, is convinced that Al has the goods, this puts me at ease..for the time being..I am not questioning Al's credibility, I would just feel more comfortable knowing that another individual has confirmed the evidence that justifies the largest lawsuit in the history of planet earth...
So that being said, if anyone knows how to contact Allan, I am sure I am not the only one curious about their upcoming meeting...
Briwadd
pootsa Diamond Finder Re: Updated Daily!! RUMORS ....Believe em' or NOT « Reply #306 Yesterday at 11:55am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Briwad, Mr. Treffry left that somewhat open ended, saying before the October hearing. Seeing proof close to the hearing makes little sense as proof would be forthcoming at that point.
My opinion, based on Mr. Treffry "going forward" as a plaintiff is that he will meet sooner rather than later. Too, my opinion only, is that the October date was said publicly to keep shareholders from bothering Mr. Treffry for his thoughts on the proof and gives him an out by saying he has not seen anything yet. I cannot blame him one bit.
Just know that if Mr.Treffry keeps his spot as a plaintiff then he is satisfied with the proof he has been shown and will most likely be under a Non Disclosure Agreement. If he removes himself from the suit then we are in trouble.
briwadd Diamondologist I am not asking for pictures...I just simply want to know if he is satisfied with the case after reviewing Al's evidence...An NDA should not prevent him from making such a statement..
As far as October, that is simply a date, not the date. If it is bumped once, it can be bumped again. Everyone is waiting for the response to the Motion to Dismiss that is due by the 12th (I believe)....I bet we see a continuance on that as well...IMO
Briwadd
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 9, 2010 10:02:25 GMT -5
coachphilm Diamond Finder Re: Updated Daily!! RUMORS ....Believe em' or NOT « Reply #311 Yesterday at 12:17pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IMO, If Ah had a smoking gun and hard evidence, this case would not be allowed ANY delays. Heres why I feel the proof is circumstantial at best. If AH had solid proof, heres a sample letter that would be sent to EVERYONE envolved, including those who agreed to pay their portion of any FTD,
Example. Dear Sir, You have till 0900 on July 25, 2010 to release all funds deignated to cmkx shareholders, that is being held at BofA located at 123 main st. anytown, VA in Trust account number XXXX-XXX1234. Enclosed is copies of the signed documents from the brokers a,b,c,d......... with amounts and shares covered. Also find our SEC agreement for the special Cert pull agreed upon by both parties dated 1/1/05 and our total shareholder count in certificate of 2.2 Trillion shares certed for this this special agreement and our Authorized share structure of 800b. Enclosed also is a current copy of the cede shares still held in street name totalling 1,1 Trillion shares. At 0900 on this date we publish all documents in a PR on every wire, then File in Federal court all documents holding all parties personally responsible for the delays and your roll in the unlawfull holding of CMKX monitary property. You have 10 days to comply.
Send this certifired to all parties, if AH has this proof, the people who have paid will be on the horn demanding results ASAP, if this type of example doesnt happen, its my opinion the evidence is at best circumstantial or tied to a much larger account not exclussive to us.
When you have solid proof, as AH says he has, then by announcing a full disclosure to the public would blow this corruption of Gov. Agencies so high that knowone could stop the breaking news on every outlet in minutes. This would be the biggest case in the history.
So this game we are playing with the SEC, Obama, Queen, etc. is just that a game. And we are the ponds. If there is really that strong of evidence, this game will end now. If not we continue this cat and mouse and extensions for a very long time. imo
OF course the letter would be done in a more prof. way, I was just showing an idea of the subject matter, lol.
Coach
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 9, 2010 10:03:23 GMT -5
tokenjo Diamond Hunter Re: Cleaning House ! « Reply #15 Today at 3:15pm »
I don't buy into anyone else's rumor or innuendo at this point regarding Hodges and Associates on board. They are not going to release evidentary information to anyone, and they don't have to. My attorney has informed me that the SEC fumbled the MTD and Hodges & Assoc. has the ball in thier court, the judge is allowing this to move forward or it would have been quashed by now. Rule 26 Stip has been extended out to Oct. 4 to prepare discovery and trial. We could get paid at ANY TIME. Stay Grounded.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 9, 2010 10:04:41 GMT -5
delusionalgrandeur Diamondologist PR, My understanding is that this isn't correct. Those that purchased from Deli have received bonafide certs from the company and new TA. I'll be doggone if I don't understand how the man can continue to sell them...but he is and they are being approved by Kevin West. pr WoW ! some pretty bold statements, you have made here. Ok... I have heard the rumor that Deli was selling again, but now you state it as fact. And the BIG ZINGER is your statement (as fact) that they are still being approved by Kevin West.... Even with the SEC & other alphabet agencies breathing down everyone's necks?? .....again WoW !! From where/who? .. or how did you become privy to this information? TIA SINGLE Yes it is true, and I know so because I have been in contact with him. Oddly enough when I contacted him a month or so ago, he said he only had about 30 mill left with a pending order of 27 mill. So where he keeps getting them, and how KW keeps approving them, then being reported to the TA and being bonifide is bewildering to say the least. He is not far from where I live...maybe 45 minutes. And I heard from deli himself, out of his own hot dog mouth, that some/a lot of Hodges shares were sold to him through deli. And yes he told me that every time someone purchases them, the transaction is rather quick. He has a direct line to the T/A. Also pr...if soliciting shares in cmkx is not allowed how can someone have it in their sig line trying to connect a seller with a buyer?
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 9, 2010 10:05:44 GMT -5
the Motion to Dismiss has been moved to Oct people. Ya'll keep saying July 12th, but it has been pushed back. Don't confuse me, which is easy to do........ BUT, I thought ........ Hodges had to file opposition to the motion to dismiss by 7/12..... answer from defendants by 7/19 and the motion to dismiss hearing woud be on 8/2 ... I Thought..... It was the deadline for disclsure exchange that was moved to October 4, 2010 and the ..... hearing date for the scheduling conference moved to October 25, 2010. Did I "thought" right ? SINGLE
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 9, 2010 10:06:35 GMT -5
tokenjo Diamond Hunter Re: Updated Daily!! RUMORS ....Believe em' or NOT « Reply #326 Yesterday at 6:01pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Straighttalk ... The "MTD" motion to dismiss has always been in effect since the file date ... what has changed is RULE 26 Stipulation which states a "complex case" preparation extention was issued to Hodges & Assoc. so they can prepare discovery and prepare for trial, IF IT GOES THAT FAR. We can still get paid at ANY TIME. The judge did not extend the MTD, because it has never been recinded, Judge Selna could throw this out at any time, yet he has not. Stay Grounded folks
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 9, 2010 10:08:20 GMT -5
bhbhbh Diamond Hunter Re: Updated Daily!! RUMORS ....Believe em' or NOT « Reply #328 Yesterday at 6:47pm » coachphilm Diamond Finder Re: Updated Daily!! RUMORS ....Believe em' or NOT « Reply #311 Yesterday at 12:17pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- IMO, If Ah had a smoking gun and hard evidence, this case would not be allowed ANY delays. Heres why I feel the proof is circumstantial at best. If AH had solid proof, heres a sample letter that would be sent to EVERYONE envolved, including those who agreed to pay their portion of any FTD, Example. Dear Sir, You have till 0900 on July 25, 2010 to release all funds deignated to cmkx shareholders, that is being held at BofA located at 123 main st. anytown, VA in Trust account number XXXX-XXX1234. Enclosed is copies of the signed documents from the brokers a,b,c,d......... with amounts and shares covered. Also find our SEC agreement for the special Cert pull agreed upon by both parties dated 1/1/05 and our total shareholder count in certificate of 2.2 Trillion shares certed for this this special agreement and our Authorized share structure of 800b. Enclosed also is a current copy of the cede shares still held in street name totalling 1,1 Trillion shares. At 0900 on this date we publish all documents in a PR on every wire, then File in Federal court all documents holding all parties personally responsible for the delays and your roll in the unlawfull holding of CMKX monitary property. You have 10 days to comply. Send this certifired to all parties, if AH has this proof, the people who have paid will be on the horn demanding results ASAP, if this type of example doesnt happen, its my opinion the evidence is at best circumstantial or tied to a much larger account not exclussive to us. When you have solid proof, as AH says he has, then by announcing a full disclosure to the public would blow this corruption of Gov. Agencies so high that knowone could stop the breaking news on every outlet in minutes. This would be the biggest case in the history. So this game we are playing with the SEC, Obama, Queen, etc. is just that a game. And we are the ponds. If there is really that strong of evidence, this game will end now. If not we continue this cat and mouse and extensions for a very long time. imo OF course the letter would be done in a more prof. way, I was just showing an idea of the subject matter, lol. Coach what if, just what if getting it released is no longer the issue. what if they have uncovered a covert operation to steal it before it gets in our hands. What if Al released it to satisfy everyone but it disappeared before it made it to us. Would we be mad, would we be saying Al shouldn't have released it. What if Obama was the one that discovered this operation and told Al to use him as the excuse since he is being blamed for everything else. What if we really don't have a clue what Al is doing and why and that is why we should trust him and leave him alone. What if some of those that are doing the loudest griping had showed up before December, then I would be saying " let them do their work." Folks, let Al do his work. We are just fine, everyone relax. There is too much happening right now. IMHO of course
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 9, 2010 10:09:58 GMT -5
delusionalgrandeur Diamondologist Re: Updated Daily!! RUMORS ....Believe em' or NOT « Reply #330 Yesterday at 6:53pm »
Yeah you have a great point bhbhbh.
The only time I tried callin them was to say that I thought some of the stuff coming out through the updates was hard to believe, but that I knew they had a reason for doing as such, and that I wanted them to know I was glad they were on our side, and that we wouldn't be where we are if it weren't for them.
So...I do agree in letting them do their work. I guess everyone is excited and on edge because we've been here sooooooooo many times, and we're afraid of being let down and having this drag out past what everyone thinks is acceptable. IMHO I think they would agree that this had drug out way past what's acceptable.
Point is, we wouldn't be here if it weren't for them. And I think that coach is highly mistaken thinking he has only circumstantial evidence. Al would be possibly dis-barred and/or heavily fined.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Jul 9, 2010 10:11:33 GMT -5
johnjrambothe2nd God of Diamonds Re: Updated Daily!! RUMORS ....Believe em' or NOT « Reply #331 Yesterday at 11:22pm »
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