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Post by Brigantine on Aug 15, 2010 13:14:40 GMT -5
What Deb said.
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Post by tracer25 on Aug 15, 2010 13:14:42 GMT -5
This board is turning into Raging Bull. Unreal how so many are unthankful and demand more and more. Thanks Al for the update... There are still a few of us here in your corner if you read these posts.
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Post by elfieh on Aug 15, 2010 13:21:44 GMT -5
Very well said, Deb!!! Thank you, elfieh
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Post by goodolboy on Aug 15, 2010 13:21:56 GMT -5
This board is turning into Raging Bull. Unreal how so many are unthankful and demand more and more. Thanks Al for the update... There are still a few of us here in your corner if you read these posts. I disagree. This is nothing like RB now that Mr. Abner is gone. As for the update, it is what it is, and said relatively little other than he will file the amended suit if we are not paid before the filing date. So, in my opinion we are waiting for the amended filing, and that will be the only thing coming out of Mr. Hodges' office between now aand then.
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Post by briwadd on Aug 15, 2010 13:28:18 GMT -5
The problem is, even the individuals that he reportedly represents don't have a clue what is going on...His own plantiff is now referring to him as Al Dodges. This appears to be going no where fast!! Briwadd Briwdad, My understanding is that those seven were selected by AL to start law suit and Al is not getting paid for his services. You are right, they are not getting the true picture either. In reality this law suit is AL's law suit, he just needed names. woc/d4me This lawsuit is Al's lawsuit?? That is the problem!! The largest lawsuit in the history of planet earth is being handled by one man. If the facts alledged in the suit can be proven, Al should have brought in a top securties firm to assist him. IMO Briwadd
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Post by beavis on Aug 15, 2010 13:29:59 GMT -5
As I wonder more about "the bank was not available to conclude the necessary transfers" statement, a thought comes to mind: perhaps these transfers are for the other trusts that have to be funded for us to get ER, since it was said that our money was transferred back in April.
... then of course, I wonder about Al's statement in court that the money is on deposit at the DTCC.
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Post by sparky on Aug 15, 2010 13:33:06 GMT -5
But Wait a Minute ...
If screaming and/or yelling, or anything else resembling pressure, won't help; then why did you just star in a CMKX movie AL? Or is this simply not true?
And if public pressure won't help, why then did you talk to Acca Al; or is that not true either?
With all due respect, Sparky completely disagrees with the conclusion that "pressure" won't help. If the SEC is not the problem, and the White House is; then let's be real - The ONLY thing that gets any politician's attention is the fear of not be elected, or re-elected.
So with less than three months before the next election, and with the Democratic Party in general, and the Obama Administration in particular doing terribly in the polls, and worse each passing week; how can you possibly conclude that public pressure will not help?
With due respect to you Attorney Hodges, and our once fair and impartial Judicial System, Sparky thinks you're DEAD WRONG on this issue.
Just look at the recent past if you want examples of what sitting back and doing nothing gets our society: It got us ObamaCare, which the vast majority of Americans thinks sucks; it got us Frank-Dodd legislation that was literally written by the Bad Guys and pretty much assures the corrupted Federal Reserve it will never be audited; it got us about $ 3 trillion deeper in federal debt; and if Americans don't wake up real soon, the same complacency is going to get us, our children, and our grandchildren a brand new layer of taxation and evil investment vehicles called Cap & Trade.
IMVHO, it is way, way past the point where every CMKX shareholder should be writing, calling, faxing, and emailing every politician and related regulator in this once-great country and demanding action on this obviously stalled issue.
My Best to All ...
Sparky
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2010 14:10:17 GMT -5
Much appreciated, Attorney Hodges. There are some of us who realize that the obstacles are changing daily and that you are overcoming them one at a time. It makes sense to those of us who do understand this that you cannot reveal intricate details of those obstacles going on behind the scenes that may jeopardize your ongoing negotiations and this historic federal case. Some of us recognize that it is reasonable to expect delays and resistance under the enormity of the circumstances. Some of us wish to stand united behind your efforts and struggle to maintain patience until the entire picture is revealed to us. We are the ones who blame only the corrupt individuals who stole from the American and Canadian people. We appreciate the opportunity to benefit from your expertise that we have been fortunate enough to receive without ever having paid you one dime for this privilege. We are the ones who find it ludicrous to think we could ever accomplish on our own what you have the ability to accomplish through years of experience, details of this case, and knowledge of the law. We recognize that much of the evidence is now legally and conveniently withheld and hidden from the public due to a certain clause in the reform bill and other cover-up tactics going on behind the scenes. We have confidence that you have collected this evidence years prior to this ongoing cover-up and we have confidence in your ability to prevail. But whatever the outcome and unexpected challenges that may come your way, your efforts will always remain appreciated by many. We wish to stand united behind you and not divided against one another. We stand by ready to join forces and apply pressure if necessary but only under your advisement based on your expertise and inside knowledge of when the timing would be most beneficial for the desired outcome. I speak only for those who feel the same way. Thank you so much. Nicely stated. Finally someone get's it. Read this all! This is the skinny of it. Thank Al for his time and efforts and be thankful that he is on our side. Thanks again Mr. Hodges. We Will Prevail!
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Post by varnson on Aug 15, 2010 14:12:33 GMT -5
Please no one in the WH has everheard of CMKX...you are so wrong as to think this has national implications because it does not. AH is winging it IMO and he will do what he can but as a one man show that is limited. To even suggest the US Gov is well aware of our little penny stock circus is just plain kooky talk but to each their own I suspect.
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Post by Ed Jagacki on Aug 15, 2010 14:18:52 GMT -5
This update may be the same-ol same-ol but it is what we asked for, an update. If we were to wait, as asked, we would get updates that were more informative when the information is available, but we could not wait, Al saw that things were getting crazy on the boards. This is a "shut up and wait for it" speech. We asked for it and we got it! So take it for what is is worth and be happy. Al is doing his job and we will be informed when it matters. Despite some cynicism that seems to be kinda automatic in me these days... I'm inclined to agree with what you have to say here. Basically he's saying, I don't have anything new to tell you. I'm doing my best under very unique and trying circumstances, while all the whining and screaming is giving me a headache. So let me explain it again. NO, we're not there yet... now shut up and behave. Okay, dad... I'm finished my whining... at least for now. I just don't want to hear any more about oklahoma bank execs that see money movement, y'know? Ed
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Post by Ed Jagacki on Aug 15, 2010 14:30:15 GMT -5
• If necessary [which I still believe not] we will file an amended complaint specifying in more detail exactly how the individual Commissioners caused harm of Constitutional dimension to the CMKX shareholders. ...it can’t help when the core problem is the White House. I believe that the SEC is anxious for this to be over; however, it is not the SEC that holding things up, IMO. I do believe that media exposure is beneficial in the sense that it keeps the pressure on the entire financial community. Fifth – By what date will we have Economic Receipt, you ask. We will have it when this initial battle phase comes to a successful conclusion. I still believe that will be in the near future; the most recent schedule, based on communication I received, was that it should have been finished by August 13; somehow at the very last moment, the bank was not available [?] to conclude the necessary transfers. This newest problem, I’m told, is being dealt with this weekend. i want to specifically address the above three parts of the update: first of all, hodges still claims that he believes that filing an amended complaint will not be necessary. he has until september 16th to do so. he made no mention of actually working on it...just that they will if necessary. i hope to god he isn't waiting (like the rest of us) for all of these deadlines to come and go without diligently working on the amendment. because if he is doing that, and september 16th comes and he hasn't substantially amended the complaint and included facts to back it up, then it's over anyway. 2nd, hodges says the core problem is with the white house. funny, the obamas are on vacation this week. doesn't sound like the white house is the least bit worried about this so-called $42 trillion shift in monetary control. 3rd, the next deadline (which will undoubtedly come and go) is this weekend for the latest "problem" to be resolved. again i point to the amended complaint. hodges is hopefully diligently preparing the amended complaint and not waiting around for supposed "problems" to be solved. the way i see it, if this stuff is actually true and history is any indicator, this is just going to get delayed, delayed, and delayed some more. each deadline will come and go, and if hodges doesn't prepare for september 16th, it's over anyway. i'm tired of this, as pretty much everyone is. and this update is so similar to the last one (months ago?) that i don't see what tangible progress has occurred. it's still we're almost there and many deadlines have come and gone because of "problems" and the white house holding this up. hibernation time again, i guess. Yeti: My comment to your first and third point is the same: Your fear that he might not be preparing for the worst (re-filing within the given 45 days) seems unfounded, given the experience and success that he has had in his chosen field for 40+ years. For a green, overworked legal aid attorney, maybe... but, not for Hodges... IMO, obviously. ...and as long as I'm giving my opinion, I will add that the CHARACTER of Al Hodges, as I perceive it, is such that I believe he will cover all bases to the best of his professional abilities. No, he really didn't tell us much other than what he told us in April... but I must admit I'm cooler now than I was hearing from an Oklahoma banking exec talking about stuff that I am CERTAIN he wouldn't be privy to. Ed
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Post by Ed Jagacki on Aug 15, 2010 14:31:36 GMT -5
Just a thought... But, I am guessing the amended complaint has been completed for some time. Hodges knew very well that he did not have the necessary evidence in his initial complaint. No Worries. I agree, Brig.
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Post by Warren_Pease on Aug 15, 2010 14:34:17 GMT -5
Somebody who has Hodges' ear needs to get him in touch with Deb. He needs a PR editor badly. That World Reports lunacy may work for some, but the rest of us like the feel of good 'ole earth under our feet.
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Post by 2018 on Aug 15, 2010 14:36:50 GMT -5
Much appreciated, Attorney Hodges. There are some of us who realize that the obstacles are changing daily and that you are overcoming them one at a time. It makes sense to those of us who do understand this that you cannot reveal intricate details of those obstacles going on behind the scenes that may jeopardize your ongoing negotiations and this historic federal case. Some of us recognize that it is reasonable to expect delays and resistance under the enormity of the circumstances. Some of us wish to stand united behind your efforts and struggle to maintain patience until the entire picture is revealed to us. We are the ones who blame only the corrupt individuals who stole from the American and Canadian people. We appreciate the opportunity to benefit from your expertise that we have been fortunate enough to receive without ever having paid you one dime for this privilege. We are the ones who find it ludicrous to think we could ever accomplish on our own what you have the ability to accomplish through years of experience, details of this case, and knowledge of the law. We recognize that much of the evidence is now legally and conveniently withheld and hidden from the public due to a certain clause in the reform bill and other cover-up tactics going on behind the scenes. We have confidence that you have collected this evidence years prior to this ongoing cover-up and we have confidence in your ability to prevail. But whatever the outcome and unexpected challenges that may come your way, your efforts will always remain appreciated by many. We wish to stand united behind you and not divided against one another. We stand by ready to join forces and apply pressure if necessary but only under your advisement based on your expertise and inside knowledge of when the timing would be most beneficial for the desired outcome. I speak only for those who feel the same way. Thank you so much. i definetely support hodges and his effort. but i also have to say that chain of events and excuses sounds to me like world reports or 4 winds. Either the other side is actualy making things happen this way, or and Hodges is communicated this info through people involved in World reports and such, Because the excuses of line in the sand on monday, then on monday excuse of 72 hours from the other side or Bis bank of international settlments., and that 72 hours was done per plaintifs posting on Thursday midnight, and then excuse on friday that "somehow at the very last moment, the bank was not available [?] to conclude the necessary transfers."
sounds like complete 4 winds or world settlements excuses and stories,, not matter where they are coming from.
I SUPPORT AND APRECIATE HODGES,
i dont support these excuses .. whether they are handed down only to us, or to hodges as well.
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Post by Ed Jagacki on Aug 15, 2010 14:37:15 GMT -5
Here is were my doubt comes in. Please, someone answer this question. If the White House is supposedly holding this up, why wouldn't key Republican minority leaders be on Meet the Press, Face the Nation, etc, telling the media that Obama and his adminstration are holding up trillions that can help the US and the rest of the world grow their economies? I'm looking for at least one plausible explanation. Thanks, Davesaint It would be naive, imo, to believe that because the White House (dem) takes a position, that the republicans are automatically against it. I don't think you are going to find too many career politicians, regardless of their party affiliations, that want to see a true redistribution of wealth a/o power. Ed
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