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Post by soonerlew on Oct 23, 2010 9:11:02 GMT -5
bikinipro Gossip Column Queen Re: The Weekly Buzz 10/18 « Reply #38 Yesterday at 7:13pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- dizardos I hear people all over the place saying Robert Hollenegg and Allan Treffry words are incongruent. I disagree. They do not say the opposite. Al Hodges represents more than just CMKX. Keep that in mind when a reference is made to Hodges' influence. Robert states that the Supreme Court ruled as follows: Release the funds. Robert does not specify to which funds he refers (and that is his right). Allan states that the Supreme Court has not ruled to release the CMKX funds. There are only inconsistencies when one assumes too much. Personally I do not agree with Allan's assessment about the cause of the delay. Lt. K. K. is on the money as far as I am concerned when he says that we are not waiting on the Bivens suit and neither on the Statute of Limitations to expire. Al Hodges would never have said Economic Receipt was imminent at the beginning of the year if we truly had to wait on a Statute of Limitations to expire. Besides....this whole operation is so important that no simple Statute of Limitations can stand in its way. Do not get me wrong. It is good that Allan Treffry freely expresses what he thinks. We are all just humans and ALL humans make mistakes from time to time. We all simply try to find the truth. millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=34623&page=2
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Post by soonerlew on Oct 24, 2010 8:01:19 GMT -5
By: briwadd0 23 Oct 2010, 12:58 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 966056 of 966153 (Reply to 966031 by bhollenegg)
Jump to msg. # Thanks Bob..
Although I still do not know what to make of our situation, you clarified your initial statement. It appears that you and Allan are on the same page based on one of his recent posts...
The shareholders are starving for information and 'next week' is getting old. Plantiff comments are the closest thing we have to an update. Don't be surprised when questions arise and please keep providing tidbits....Oh, and bring you ### back to PB29!!
Briwadd
By: bhollenegg 23 Oct 2010, 01:10 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 966060 of 966153 (Reply to 966056 by briwadd0)
Jump to msg. # Briwadd0...thank you. Attorney Hodges will be communicating with the Shareholders. Attorney Hodges is aware of the Shareholders' situation and is awaiting permission to communicate.
Thank you, BHollenegg
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Post by soonerlew on Oct 24, 2010 8:03:57 GMT -5
By: newtopennies 23 Oct 2010, 11:51 AM EDT Rating: Msg. 966021 of 966153
Jump to msg. # BHOLLENEGG...I believe there are hundreds of shareholders in CMKX land that appreciate everything you have conveyed to us. Do we understand it all? Not really. Are we still hopeful for a positive outcome for all of us who have followed the rules and played along? Yes. Please do not let a few 'bad apples' spoil the rest of us. I personally know shareholders of CMKX that do not post on message boards, but do follow them, and do value the information you give us, limited as it is for unknown reasons. If ever there was a stock that favors faith over formula, where shareholders have scarce information to rely on, it is CMKM Diamonds, IMO. Maybe at the end of this ride we'll be able understand the journey a little better. Thank you for being one of our 'guides'. eom.
By: bhollenegg 23 Oct 2010, 12:16 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 966035 of 966153 (Reply to 966021 by newtopennies)
Jump to msg. # Newtopennies...thank you very much...your comments are truly appreciated. Attorney Hodges will be communicating the Shareholders.
Thank you, BHollenegg
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Post by soonerlew on Oct 24, 2010 8:05:52 GMT -5
By: sportsman93306 23 Oct 2010, 10:56 PM EDT Rating: Msg. 966127 of 966153
Jump to msg. # BHOLLENEGG THANKS. HOWEVER, YOU RAISED IMPORTANT Questions in your messgaes. 1.How come, the "order/instructions" of supreme court judge could be flouted?Was the fund released?If not, then person holding the funds are guilty of "contempt of court" and can be sent to jail. So, what's going on? 2.you said Al is waiting permission to update us. In past, he never had to take permission. Is it fair to assume that funds are released and strategy to work out the distribution is taking place? 3. Is the question of"bonafide" sh settled?If not, do u suspect more delay? There are more imp related questions, but presently the above will do. THANKS SPORTSMAN
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Post by soonerlew on Oct 24, 2010 8:06:49 GMT -5
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Post by soonerlew on Oct 24, 2010 8:09:02 GMT -5
seagull Administrator CMKX Gossip Column Re: gossip 10/24/10 « Reply #1 Today at 5:56am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: BHollenegg AC Energy...CMKM spin-off? « Thread Started Yesterday at 5:31pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Shareholder received a stock certificate with AC Energy Shares annotating the company is a spin-off of CMKM Diamonds. I looked up the company. The BoD is Mark Hutchinson, PhD. His profile indicates he was previously the BoD of CMKM Diamonds. Any one have any information on this? Thank you, BHollenegg tramp2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=14668
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Post by soonerlew on Oct 24, 2010 8:14:38 GMT -5
pennypauly Mini Mod Re: The Weekly Buzz 10/18 « Reply #40 Yesterday at 10:14am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- sunbeam777 Re: ******Rumor Discussion thread****** « Reply #181 Today at 10:02am » jacbert: Floridanative: just an fyi...Wyatt clarified the 4pm deadline that was floating out there...it was NOT a deadline - it was an expected time that it would be completed. However, it's not quite done yet. Hang in there! bikinipro Gossip Column Queen Re: The Weekly Buzz 10/18 « Reply #42 Yesterday at 2:10pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PJ (2:25 PM) jacbert: [1:23:29 PM] Jacbert: also Wyatt also related that AL told him the statute of limitations has nothing to do with our case..... bikinipro Gossip Column Queen Re: The Weekly Buzz 10/18 « Reply #45 Yesterday at 4:16pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- goldeagle Re: It Has been A Busy Week......... « Reply #1 on Oct 21, 2010, 11:16pm » Basic - Just remember.........The week aint over till Monday. It will be here none too NOOS GL GE millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=34623&page=3
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Oct 24, 2010 12:47:41 GMT -5
ty pennypauly... ty seagul
By: goldeagle My apology « Thread Started Today at 6:47am »
I sincerely apologize to all that it did not happen this past week as I had been told by many (more than 3) very connected persons. The only solace I can will offer at this point is what BHollenegg stated in one of his threads. Quote: Attorney Hodges will be communicating with the Shareholders. Attorney Hodges is aware of the Shareholders' situation and is awaiting permission to communicate. Thank you, BHollenegg UnQuote"
Good luck to us all. GE
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Oct 24, 2010 12:48:49 GMT -5
ty pennypauly This is the first time D4E made a prediction. If my memory is correct.
DiamondsR4ever Re: ******Rumor Discussion thread****** « Reply #235 Today at 8:46am » People,
Even though the hen seems to have laid her eggs, don't count your chickens before the eggs hatch.
In other words,
Don't go spending money you don't have yet.
Good luck to us all.
Just for grins, my source says by Friday next week we will have reason to party. I trust my source, but I'm still at work and paying my bills and sitting on my porch after work enjoying what I have not what I want.
D4E
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Oct 24, 2010 12:49:46 GMT -5
ty pennypauly sunbeam777 Re: ******Rumor Discussion thread****** « Reply #239 Today at 9:22am »
TraderBJB: If AH is truly waiting for permission to speak to us, that can only mean completion or something very positive at least. He would not need permission to inform us of further delays. IMO
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Oct 24, 2010 20:38:56 GMT -5
By: bhollenegg 23 Oct 2010, 12:12 PM EDT Rating: Rate this post: Msg. 966031 of 966049 (Reply to 965895 by briwadd0) Briwadd0...I have always provided the shareholders as much information I can without undermining the progress made for the release of the funds. The information I provide at the time is current and correct. I do not provide or do I condone any one intentionally providing false information. In this CMKX World of uncertainty, it is imperative that the Shareholders are provided information that is accurate and current. As we all know, this does not occur too often. What I post is what I know is the current situation and from my understanding is correct. There are times the information cannot be detailed information because of the sensitivity and not knowing the total picture. When there are snapshots being presented of the total picture, there will be many different interpretations of what the total picture could be. I have provided information that is accurate and current at the time I posted the information. Obviously there are variables which can change. The one variable that I have a constant problem with is when some one changes what I posted in their attempt to figure out what the total picture could be. What I post and the message I am providing is exactly what is written...there are no hidden messages, riddles, or agendas. Unfortunately, I cannot correct every message that is being taken out of context, wording changed, or misinterpreted. I try to do my best, but one can only do so much. Hopefully you can appreciate what is happening and understand that I am doing the best I can under the circumstances. Your questions to me... "You stated that SC has already ruled on the release of funds, do you stand by that?....However, you saying that the Supreme Court is involved is pretty black and white. What say you?? Briwadd " The statements I made about the Supreme court were on the funds and not the lawsuit. This is what I posted .. "Attorney Hodges is doing an outstanding job. I cannot provide the details, but trust me on this. Attorney Hodges fought every battle (and there were many) with determination and expertise that I know will do all the Shareholders proud. When the Supreme Court gets involved, you know Attorney Hodges has tremendous influence. Attorney Hodges is a genius period. Thank you..." and "Pete...the Supreme Court already made a decision...release the funds. Attorney Hodges will notify the Shareholders when done." and... "It was in regard to releasing the funds, not the lawsuit". To answer your question... The Supreme Court involvement and their response is annotated in the notes Attorney Hodges wrote during his trip in Richmond to release the funds. "We were advised that a Supreme Ct. Justice(s) visited the FED Saturday and instructed them to “pay it all in the AM Monday – finish it by noon time." Thank you, BHollenegg ragingbull.quote.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKI&read=966031
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Oct 24, 2010 20:42:24 GMT -5
sunbeam777 Dr. Of Diamonds Re: ******Rumor Discussion thread****** « Reply #212 Yesterday at 2:16pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PJ1_10: trader wrote: "BOB, thanks for replaying . if this was few weeks ago and nothing happened until now and not obeying the SC order that means the bad guys are winning and we still have along way to receive our money"// " No...that is not what it means...it is part of the progression in getting to the final outcome." Thank you, BHollenegg PJ1_10: millionaires.proboards.com/index.....ay&thread=34726
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Oct 24, 2010 20:51:53 GMT -5
sunbeam777 Dr. Of Diamonds Re: ******Rumor Discussion thread****** « Reply #239 Today at 9:22am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TraderBJB: If AH is truly waiting for permission to speak to us, that can only mean completion or something very positive at least. He would not need permission to inform us of further delays. IMO
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Oct 24, 2010 20:53:53 GMT -5
John Winston Lennon o'Boggie God of Diamonds Location: Long Island New York Re: ******Rumor Discussion thread****** « Reply #244 Today at 10:38am »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think there is a trust.. A 5 year trust... Money collected 5 years ago by IBM and team.. A 5 years trust with compound interest makes a lot of cash.. It may have started at 54 cents to a Dollar a share...One of My certs is marked Nov 12 2005... And my other one is Nov 22 2005.. Almost 5 years ago... They have been making us look one way and were going the other way.. Still are.. But I think if I'm right... It's all over... And the proof were our Certs.. If we didn't get the trust released, there would have been a squeeze, that would have meant someone with deep pockets would have been sitting there to show valuation... IMHO
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Oct 24, 2010 21:00:56 GMT -5
hafizesh Diamondologist Re: ******Rumor Discussion thread****** « Reply #271 Today at 6:41pm »
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: Latteplease Can anyone clarify this? « Thread Started Yesterday at 8:20pm »
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(2:25 PM) jacbert: [1:23:29 PM] Jacbert: also Wyatt also related that AL told him the statute of limitations has nothing to do with our case.....
Question: This "case" makes sense...but if we are deferred again, and Oct 28th rolls around, are we prohibited from suing any of the entities not in the Bivens suit? Like the many brokers/bankers/hedge funds/insiders/govt employees/regulators/ and any and all others involved in shorting the daylights out of CMKX in the trillions of shares at the cost of thousands of investors?
Can someone who knows, please address this? Lumiere77, are you able to comment on this?
Ty- latte
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By: lumiere702 Every claim, except the criminal charge of murder, is subject to a statute of limitations. Most are under state law. Claims permitted by federal law are subject to the federal statute of limitation rules. The general federal statute ifs four years from the date the “cause of action accrues.” That means four years from the time the plaintiff first has the right to sue. The four-year statute governs, IMO, the Bivens claim. Assuming the cause of action accrued in 2006 when the commissioners first refused to release the funds, the statute ran out sometime earlier this year. AH’s complaint was filed before the statute ran. Therefore, the statute of limitations is not an issue in “our case.”
The five-year statute applies to securities fraud, manipulation, etc. If you assume that the statute started running when the judge issued the revocation ruling on Oct. 28, 2005, it runs out this week. No further actions can be brought. However, since the federal government is immune from suit and further Bivens actions are now time-barred the only entities left that would benefit from the running of the statute are the banks, hedge funds, brokers, etc. The immunity they received was only for criminal, not civil actions. After the statute runs they are arguably immune from civil lawsuits as well.
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By: latteplease Thank you Lumiere, That is what I thought. So, all the entities that originally caused the demise of our investment are immune after the 28th, if Im reading you correctly. The DTCC is a private company. Al has said if I remember correctly, that they hold the funds. Since we have no suit against them, they are immune after the 28th, along with everyone else that is responsible.
What do you think Al should or could do to prevent that from happening? Can he add names and can he add the DTCC to the Bivens at this point? Can he add the rest of them as well? And should he in your opinion? As a safety measure?
Thanks in advance.
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By: hermannmaier my guess is, the date any particular shares were sold fraudulently starts the 5 year clock, and we are most all past 5 years.
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