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Post by soonerlew on Dec 23, 2010 2:28:17 GMT -5
By: ricosull 22 Dec 2010, 10:16 PM EST Rating: Msg. 980238 of 980271 (Reply to 980237 by jfarn)
Jump to msg. # Jfarn, sounds to me like Wolfbela is going down the right path
By: jfarn 22 Dec 2010, 10:21 PM EST Rating: Msg. 980240 of 980271 (Reply to 980238 by ricosull)
Jump to msg. # Yes. Jerry is a step ahead, unfortunately. eom.
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 23, 2010 10:04:12 GMT -5
By: oil.ipo 23 Dec 2010, 08:04 AM EST Rating: Msg. 980278 of 980300 (Reply to 980047 by oil.ipo)
Jump to msg. # Hopefully today, ex President Bush won't get up too fast from his eazy chair, tripping over his cat theo, as he grabs for that red phone, yet again (like he has done so many times to 'us' all) thus interrupting Economic fLooXMISSS. The POWER OF IT ALL! (power of dramatization)
THEN.... Today will be ,no CAN BE the Big Kahuna, and all 'staging areas' will open, flooding the massive public hands with green XMAS IVY. Sure, let's just see that happen for once. I will believe only when I see, hold, read, etc., otherwise, all subterfuge!
Oh nothing stopping it now! But that call (ex President- Sure.....thing) "Halt,.... cease, while I put more beers in the fridge." Meanwhile massive efforts have undergone to get distribution readied for Economic Receipt another forward looking statement. Something so huge in effort that it cannot be reversed so it might as well be completed and executed, for once, and for the good of all of it's VICTIMS.
Kind if like filling a football stadium with 50,000 fans waiting for the team/GAME TIME(?) to enter stage '50 yard line'. What do ya do? Ya PLAY! Certainly do not try and send all 50 k fans home with their stubs in their left front pant pockets now do you? OK, now that we got that straight.
Subterfuge = Subterfuge, no matter... how its staged, as long as it aint reality, missssssinformation.
Show me the money Honey.
AIMHO, Oil
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 23, 2010 12:22:49 GMT -5
By: boomer2 23 Dec 2010, 09:39 AM EST Msg. 980290 of 980324 Jump to msg. #
So Sparky, You don't believe the postings by jfarn?
Is there really a Santa Claus?
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By: sparkysantos 23 Dec 2010, 10:53 AM EST Rating: post rating 5 Rate this post: Msg. 980318 of 980323 (Reply to 980290 by boomer2) Jump to msg. #
Which postings Boomer? ... It seems to me that jfarn has toned down his recent optimism; but I have not.
Frankly, most of my opinions and predictions about what is about to happen are based on my personal knowledge of Wall Street, and how corrupted-to-the-core it has again become. And as black & white proof of this rampant corruption, just look how the largest US-banks are presently earning record profits!
Yes; the big banks are somehow managing to perform this "record trading profits" miracle quarter after recent quarter. But meanwhile, businesses (their customers) are failing left and right, the nation's unemployment rate seems stuck at double-digit levels, consumer credit scores are tumbling month after month with no end in sight, housing prices are sliding coast-to-coast, banks everywhere are delaying their upside-down forecolsures, and unsurprisingly inventories of unsold homes remain seemingly glued at record levels.
Yet despite all these lingering economic woes that are still plaguing the private sector - most of which these same banks created; these greed-driven thugs, who let's not forget own Uncle Ben Bernanke's non-federal and reserve-less Federal Reserve, are supposedly sitting pretty as if everything is wonderful.
Well if you believe any of this crap, the bashers employed by these banks, and by our own government, must have gotten to you!
IMO, if the truth were known, these same US-based banks that are now reporting record earnings, record compensation, and record bonuses are technically flat-ass broke and insolvent. That's right; completely bankrupt!
Now sure, long-established mark-to-market statutes were all but abolished in the spring of 2009, and ever since the regulatory community has felt justified looking the other way when it comes to collateral requirements. And then let's not forget that immediately after this "accounting" change, when banks were conveniently allowed to again show toxic garbage at 100 cents on the dollar, Uncle Ben showed up with a huge stack of taxpayer cash and bought up 2-3 trillion dollars "worth" of that crap.
So what really happened, once the dust finally settled, is that mortgage-backed junk with a notational value of two to three trillion dollars was transferred off the books of the banks that produced the chit, and onto the books of Ben's now-insolvent Federal Reserve.
As a net result of all the smoke & mirrors accounting that has been used to dupe the public, IMO the Federal Reserve is destined to fail, and fail soon, unless US housing prices immediately stop declining, and actually start appreciating in value.
But the problem is this: With credit scores falling in the aggregate, with unemployment stubbornly high, with lender underwriting standards now stricter than in decades, with lender down-payment requirements now far more conservative than in decades, and with millions of homes already in default; there is no end in sight to the many problems no plaguing the US housing industry.
Therefore, IMO unless somewhere between $ 2 and $ 3 trillion is dumped into the private sector in the very near future, the Federal Reserve as we now know it will fail; and it will fail fast! And with the Fed's failure will come the collapse of many of this nation's too-big-to-fail giants like Bank of America, Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, and Wells Fargo.
But, if in contrast the Obama Administration announces a huge Wall Street clean-up campaign, complete with unsealed indictments, arrests, and a slew of media coverage; and at the same time releases trillions in settlement funds; two crucial things would happen, and will happen very fast:
First, the ongoing slide in housing prices would instantly stop and reverse, and bank balance sheets would immediately improve, as hundreds of thousands of recipients purchased homes with cash. Similarly, the resulting surge in Retail Sales would swiftly translate into heightened economic activity, lower unemployment, and increased profitability nationwide.
And second, and perhaps even more important, confidence would be quickly restored to America’s investment community; and perhaps Wall St could once again be viewed as a capital generator rather than a capital thief.
To conclude, Sparky's thoughts, conclusions, and predictions are based far more on circumstances and economic statistics than on what any gurus might have to say. And along these lines, if you don’t think there is a settlement coming, then where do you think the US economy will be in a year; and in what condition will the already-broke banking industry find itself?
Sincerely,
Sparky
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 23, 2010 12:30:09 GMT -5
By: boomer2 23 Dec 2010, 11:06 AM EST Rating: Msg. 980321 of 980367 (Reply to 980318 by sparkysantos)
Jump to msg. # sparky, Thanx for the reply....jfarn postings of the last few hours are not at all positive IMHO.
We all would like to believe but there is very little to hang onto. (sp)
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 23, 2010 12:31:17 GMT -5
By: trixijude 23 Dec 2010, 11:08 AM EST Rating: Msg. 980322 of 980367
Jump to msg. # Too funny, this excerpt from Sparky's post...Someone from the SEC was on CNN today & said they won't be able to implement the Dodd Wall Street Reform bill, because they can't get the people they need to enforce the new regulations.
By Sparky: "But, if in contrast the Obama Administration announces a huge Wall Street clean-up campaign, complete with unsealed indictments, arrests, and a slew of media coverage; and at the same time releases trillions in settlement funds; two crucial things would happen, and will happen very fast."
Trixi
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 23, 2010 12:32:05 GMT -5
By: billy80817 23 Dec 2010, 11:39 AM EST Rating: Msg. 980335 of 980368 (Reply to 980300 by ezaltheladiespa) Jump to msg. # Bank of America Readies for Attacks "Bank of America executives are so worried about a coming onslaught of criticism that they have registered hundreds of website names making fun of the company. Among the 300 addresses bought by the company in recent days are BrianMoynihanSucks.com (Moynihan is the bank's CEO). What's got the financial behemoth suddenly so worried about criticism? For one thing, Bank of America is widely regarded as the next target for Wikileaks' whistle-blowing activities. Fear not Bank of America haters: one website—BankofAmericasucks.com—is already up and running for your complaints." http:// www.thedailybeast.com/cheat-sheet/item/bank-of-america-readies-for-attacks/reputation/?cid=cs:headline5
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 23, 2010 12:34:16 GMT -5
By: Bellingus 23 Dec 2010, 12:20 PM EST Rating: Msg. 980360 of 980368 (Reply to 980206 by jfarn)
Jump to msg. # Just because something isn’t valid in a Connecticut schoolmarm’s reality doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. This is such a typical, predictable, totally clueless knee-jerk response coming from you.
But those who really know you won’t be surprised. I remember the days in 04 and 05 when you went around bashing Urban and the original team. You were fighting the good fight and getting answers for the shareholders. Yada, yada. What a self-absorbed drama queen.
Back then you had your little single-brain cell girly partner to keep you company as you fluttered about the boards straightening all of us losers out. To me you’ll always be a brash, reactionary loud mouth who speaks first without knowing spit. Your dumb-ass posts prove it.
It’s obvious that you’ve always been 12 - 18 months behind the curve and that's if you’re lucky. Why not do yourself and everyone else a favor and shut your silly yap and watch the final act. Maybe since you’ve got the Dalai Lama on speed dial with all of your other high-level, exclusive contacts, you can get his Holiness to hold a prayer vigil for you and the other drama queens.
BTW, I made you invisible years ago but several of my buds sent me your ridiculous posts from last night. I felt compelled to respond. Here’s the operative premise: Nothing with CMKX is as it appears. Now you’re invisible again.
By: oreodiamonds 23 Dec 2010, 12:37 PM EST Rating: Msg. 980371 of 980372 (Reply to 980360 by Bellingus)
Jump to msg. # Bellingus .... The only problem ... "When is the final act?"
We have been told for 4 years that we are in the end game!
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 23, 2010 14:27:11 GMT -5
By: Bellingus 23 Dec 2010, 12:20 PM EST Rating: Msg. 980360 of 980368 (Reply to 980206 by jfarn) Jump to msg. # Just because something isn’t valid in a Connecticut schoolmarm’s reality doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. This is such a typical, predictable, totally clueless knee-jerk response coming from you. But those who really know you won’t be surprised. I remember the days in 04 and 05 when you went around bashing Urban and the original team. You were fighting the good fight and getting answers for the shareholders. Yada, yada. What a self-absorbed drama queen. Back then you had your little single-brain cell girly partner to keep you company as you fluttered about the boards straightening all of us losers out. To me you’ll always be a brash, reactionary loud mouth who speaks first without knowing spit. Your dumb-ass posts prove it. It’s obvious that you’ve always been 12 - 18 months behind the curve and that's if you’re lucky. Why not do yourself and everyone else a favor and shut your silly yap and watch the final act. Maybe since you’ve got the Dalai Lama on speed dial with all of your other high-level, exclusive contacts, you can get his Holiness to hold a prayer vigil for you and the other drama queens. BTW, I made you invisible years ago but several of my buds sent me your ridiculous posts from last night. I felt compelled to respond. Here’s the operative premise: Nothing with CMKX is as it appears. Now you’re invisible again. By: oreodiamonds 23 Dec 2010, 12:37 PM EST Rating: Msg. 980371 of 980372 (Reply to 980360 by Bellingus) Jump to msg. # Bellingus .... The only problem ... "When is the final act?" We have been told for 4 years that we are in the end game! By: klonopin2mg 23 Dec 2010, 01:22 PM EST Rating: Msg. 980395 of 980428 (Reply to 980360 by Bellingus) Jump to msg. # Bellingus' another perspective from one who's never wavered....still 100% confident in the outcome even while locked out from information....you can't seriously blame people for NOT understanding when so much is UNKNOWN, so much misdirection and with so much seemingly unnecessary suffering. anyway....as i have proposed to others and even left on his voicemail, perhaps he's getting EXACTLY what he wanted... .... your post is "exactly" what i expected (thank you jfarn' for having Belligus' join the board today). i am and ALWAYS have been 100% confident in "The Team" and even a "grand plan" has an grand ending..and yes, i too will watch this grand finale....with great expectation and pleasure.. someone sent me the jfarn' posts in question by text very late last night.... from a very different perspective than yours i replied simply... "LOL" probably just jfarn's way of getting answers, no?....after all, he received a few calls from "one man we all trust(ed) in the shadows" (why do you suppose?)....his negativity hasn't bothered me in the least...it stimulates discussion as your presence suggests even if i do NOT agree with his posting or the bad timing...without even looking at his posts, i venture to guess he NEVER said we were NOT getting paid or that we would NOT have a good outcome. i was "taught" a long time ago that i would NEVER get the answers i seek.....it's been a long journey filled with experiences i'll never forget, but i could never live with myself w/o at least seeking the truth even knowing it was a vain attempt. perhaps just another vain attempt for answers unknown. to each his own journey i say, after all; we each weren't as lucky to have the DD shared, no? CHEERS TO YOU! for all you posted in the past and for stepping out of the shadows with such a positive reply as to the outcome....for that..i thank you! as for me, there's no changing the past. i wait patiently for the inevitable... CHEERS!!! to "The Good Outcome" klon' copyright© 2003-2010 ) p.s. you may also have him confused with another poster with the "girly partner"
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 23, 2010 14:30:35 GMT -5
By: newtopennies 23 Dec 2010, 01:59 PM EST Rating: Msg. 980417 of 980429
Jump to msg. # ANOTHER VEIW ...PB29.... diamondogg11 Diamondologist
member is offline
Joined: Apr 2010 Gender: Male Posts: 369 Re: NOW Here's What I Think (A Plea to Mr. Hodges) « Reply #3 Today at 9:56am »
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Today at 5:13am, scapaflow wrote:I bet there is only indirect proof of trust, nothing more! Otherwise we had seen the meat!
Well then.. I would like Hodges himself to tell all of us why he is so confident..
tell us what is so special about the indirect proof..
for God sakes.. even tell us WHY he CAN'T tell us.. (this option would still be dissapointing.. but at least somebody would be showing some respect to a group of shareholders who have been waiting for so long.)
Bottom line..
IF all we have is indirect proof.. then be honest about it.. doesn't mean the fight needs to stop..
the reason people twist in the wind.. is because we are left with filling in the large gaps with speculation and those that choose to be cynical pile on with their negativity (or realism if you choose to look at that way)..
at this point we deserve more. And I think Al Hodges' own words have set the bar higher (as far as expectations) AND as far as taking responsibility for those higher expectations.
IMO you can't just yell "fire!" or "You have just won a million dollar lottery!!" or "If I were a betting man.. we should all receive a HUGE monetary windfall by Christmas!!!" without TAKING SOME RESPONSIBILITY for those words..
I define "responsibility" as simply communicating and being honest about our situation. AND after so many failed dates.. giving more (or at least SOMETHING) to alleviate the vacuum that has "indirectly" caused the shareholders to endure great stress. If Hodges can alleviate this viscious cycle that has been created (announced date.. disappointment.. speculation.. negativity.. another annnounced date.. higher expectations.. more speculation.. more negativity.. more dissappointment.. even more speculation.. even more anticipation.. etc. ad naseum.. you get the picture).. THEN I THINK HE HAS A RESPONSIBLITY TO DO SO..
Yes, Mr. Hodges is doing a service for all of us (or so many believe) but he is also a part of a cycle that is grinding people's emotions into the ground..
jmo dd
By: billy80817 23 Dec 2010, 02:15 PM EST Rating: Msg. 980425 of 980429 (Reply to 980417 by newtopennies)
Jump to msg. # Post of the week...
Nice reasoning diamond dogg. If anyone can't understand that line of thought then you have given up your own responsibility of free thought and have become a robot because of high school like peer pressures.
We were told this time LAST YEAR by the wyatt and bhollenegg (who were told by Al Hodges) that this was over and payment was imminent. Remember that?
Come clean Al Hodges. My prediction is you will file the appeal and the "string along" continues.
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 24, 2010 9:16:16 GMT -5
seagull Administrator CMKX Gossip Column Re: gossip 12/24/10 Christmas Eve « Reply #7 Today at 7:56am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- by: bhollenegg Today at 7:29am, ssu wrote: SSu...please do not take my information out of context. You changed the point I was making, which is highlighted below. "What I don't understand is why some Shareholders find it necessary to take information from Attorney Hodges Plaintiffs' updates, which has a Attorney/Client confidentially clause, and then post part of the information with false statements and negative opinions; upsetting and stressing the Shareholders, then asking me to explain what has been distorted as if I was responsible for its content. Thank you, BHollenegg tramp2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=15364
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 24, 2010 9:19:11 GMT -5
seagull Administrator CMKX Gossip Column Re: gossip 12/24/10 Christmas Eve « Reply #6 Today at 7:55am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: bhollenegg Anything that would compromise security and safety could jeopardize the distribution process. Security precautions are in effect for several reasons. 1. Protection of Trustees 2. Protection of Funds 3. Protection of Recipients 4. Protection of those involved with the Distribution. What could possibly happen? With this amount of money... 1. Trustees threatened. 2. Message Boards are monitored by others who are not shareholders, but have an interest gathering information about the funds , how much, who is receiving the funds. Example..one account monitoring the boards had 13 IP Addresses (one account) in a country known to harbor terrorist. 3. Delivery Services Carrier compromised to find out the addresses of the recipients. 4. Recipients threatened Any of these areas are compromised, would trigger measures to identify and correct the compromises. Thank you, BHollenegg tramp2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=15364
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 24, 2010 9:22:07 GMT -5
snifferpup Mod Squad Re: The Weekly Buzz 12/20 « Reply #31 Today at 8:17am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is just so good, I felt it should seen... oaks Well it is Christmas Eve day...... « Thread Started Today at 3:28am » ----------------------------------------------------------- As much as we would all like to get $3.87 trillion divided into bona fides for $6. a share, it has always IMO been pure fantasy. Just think about this.... The average CMKX shareholder has 15 million shares which if the above came true, for about a $1500 original investment, that would equate to $90 mill. Dream all you want my friends but it is just not going to happen, IMO. I still hold out hope we will receive a payout, but so far every single rumored date has come and gone with nothing but the next latest and greatest of any day, or the delay is because of this and that. This talk about $42 trillion and replacing the Fed with new Treasury is so rediculous. While I appreciate everything Al Hodges has tried to do for the Plaintiffs and indirectly all CMKX shareholders, I still see very little in way of proof and verifiable clarity. All I expect at this point if for Mr. Hodges to appeal within the required time period. In any event, I wish everyone a very Merry Christmas with family and friends and loved ones. If you are travelling, be safe on your journey. Oaks (aimho) luciWhy Andy, thanks so much for your thoughts. I, for one, am going to keep believing. I believe I will receive a substantial ROI on my cmkm/i/x investment. I believe there are people working very hard to make this happen. I believe there have been people sent to deceive us with the hope that we would give up and go away. I believe there have been people sent to deceive us with the hope we will take the least amount offered and go away. I STILL believe I will receive a substantial ROI on my investment. Merry Christmas. Oh, and in case it's not as clear as the Flying Duck blue sky...................................I love luci~ millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=36007&page=2
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 24, 2010 9:23:19 GMT -5
bikinipro Gossip Column Queen Re: The Weekly Buzz 12/20 « Reply #30 Yesterday at 6:43pm » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- bobbybdb Yes and I now see why we were put on hold for so long, if things happened as a pre planed scenario it was a genius plan. They took the corrupt hedge funds and banks down along with Fanny may and Freddy mac, caused the SEC to issue new rules and regulations, got the economy as low as possible to flush the corruption then turn around and inject this world settlements of 14 trillion $$ ($3.87 to CMKX shareholders) to the private sector to reestablish a solid base for the new economy, I would also not be too surprised, to hear that the president recorded announcement as a PSA that the FED is no longer and the treasury of the USA is now back in charge of our money and backed by mineral base. I don't know if this was Bob Maheu's (IBM) plan from the beginning would not surprise me, seems that he has his finger prints all over it, there could never be an other one like him, amazing. I know it has been said, ACCA was sent in by Maheu, now obvious that acca was used as a catalyst to keep shareholder focused and busy, he did his job well. Also I believe the Tyler group was set up for the same purpose, and will not be there much longer, Peter Maheu is now running this show and when B Hollenegg states that permission is needed to announce the ER, I believe that permission will come from Peter when he is satisfied that his fathers work is completed as he planed it so many years ago. Merry Christmas All tramp2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=15355 millionaires.proboards.com/index.....ad=36007&page=2
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 24, 2010 9:24:59 GMT -5
snifferpup Mod Squad Re: The Weekly Buzz 12/20 « Reply #31 Today at 8:17am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is just so good, I felt it should seen... oaks Well it is Christmas Eve day...... « Thread Started Today at 3:28am » ----------------------------------------------------------- As much as we would all like to get $3.87 trillion divided into bona fides for $6. a share, it has always IMO been pure fantasy. Just think about this.... The average CMKX shareholder has 15 million shares which if the above came true, for about a $1500 original investment, that would equate to $90 mill. Dream all you want my friends but it is just not going to happen, IMO. I still hold out hope we will receive a payout, but so far every single rumored date has come and gone with nothing but the next latest and greatest of any day, or the delay is because of this and that. This talk about $42 trillion and replacing the Fed with new Treasury is so rediculous. While I appreciate everything Al Hodges has tried to do for the Plaintiffs and indirectly all CMKX shareholders, I still see very little in way of proof and verifiable clarity. All I expect at this point if for Mr. Hodges to appeal within the required time period. In any event, I wish everyone a very Merry Christmas with family and friends and loved ones. If you are travelling, be safe on your journey. Oaks (aimho) luciWhy Andy, thanks so much for your thoughts. I, for one, am going to keep believing. I believe I will receive a substantial ROI on my cmkm/i/x investment. I believe there are people working very hard to make this happen. I believe there have been people sent to deceive us with the hope that we would give up and go away. I believe there have been people sent to deceive us with the hope we will take the least amount offered and go away. I STILL believe I will receive a substantial ROI on my investment. Merry Christmas. Oh, and in case it's not as clear as the Flying Duck blue sky...................................I love luci~ millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=36007&page=2lt.kk Diamond Finder and Miner Re: gossip 12/24/10 Christmas Eve « Reply #2 Today at 7:32am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy's comments are uninformed and extremely ill timed...do not worry. I will make a final comment. What kind of person brings negativity to people under stress at this time of the year especially when they have zero proof? We have proof that all will be fine. Some has been given is Al's brilliant updates and some can not be divulged due to the sensitivity of the situation. There is no sense in compromising valuable contacts at this late date in the process. Enjoy your holiday and know that folks are working through theirs to bring you ROI and justice. I will close for now. Love you all. Lt.KK « Last Edit: Today at 7:37am by lt.kk » tramp2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=15364
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 24, 2010 9:30:12 GMT -5
By: planter82 24 Dec 2010, 12:31 AM EST Rating: Msg. 980693 of 980747
Jump to msg. # you will notice in the court transcript the SEC lawyer says the trust has been moved to private hands so are they holding our money and collecting the interest on it instead of paying us?
By: chuck522450 24 Dec 2010, 01:01 AM EST Rating: Msg. 980698 of 980747 (Reply to 980693 by planter82)
Jump to msg. # He didn't say the funds existed, just that even if everything Hodges said was true, the lawsuit should still be dismissed.
Nobody said the funds actually existed. Jeez.
By: yfi4me2 24 Dec 2010, 01:07 AM EST Rating: Msg. 980700 of 980747 (Reply to 980698 by chuck522450)
Jump to msg. # Chuck,
Correct, he said
The funds are held by a private company, not the federal government
By: chuck522450 24 Dec 2010, 01:15 AM EST Rating: Msg. 980704 of 980747 (Reply to 980700 by yfi4me2)
Jump to msg. # I think the government's point was that, according to Hodges, the funds were held by a private corporation, the DTCC. This was just twisted by some to be an admission of the existence of the funds. The argument goes, and the judge agreed, that since Hodges himself claims the funds were held by a private corporation, this state of events entitled the government to dismissal of the Bivens action, as there is no basis relief against a private corporation based on Hodges' pleadings. Nobody ever actually said yes, the funds exist.
Loosely translated, the government said assuming what you say is true, Hodges, you still lose. And he lost.
By: yfi4me2 24 Dec 2010, 01:21 AM EST Rating: Msg. 980706 of 980747 (Reply to 980704 by chuck522450)
Jump to msg. # Chuck
Not that money matters to me but I'm going to encourage anyone who will listen to exercise their rights. As far as I'm concerned, Sec is in a big ole bunch of crap. The Made Off Rule isn't going to work here.
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