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Post by soonerlew on Dec 7, 2010 8:27:23 GMT -5
seagull Administrator CMKX Gossip Column Re: gossip 12/7/10 « Reply #10 Today at 6:04am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: liza7755 Did not think I could send message from work, but do have a coment about military being involved. My husband was on a police force and I do remember the police department being hired for a broker that wanted to take money out of one bank and add money to another, he hired the police department for his safety. Long story short if a broker hired police department for his money and I knew this broker really do not think he was worth trillions. Point is why wouldn’t 38 trillion not have military escort, you can hirer anyone with money tramp2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=15147
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 7, 2010 8:30:26 GMT -5
seagull Administrator CMKX Gossip Column Re: gossip 12/7/10 « Reply #13 Today at 6:35am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- By: one2few Today at 2:26am, one2few wrote:Swather, The second version is much more to my liking and resonates with what we've been hearing for some time. It also echoes IBM when he said we would take our case to State and Federal Courts if need be. one2few....agree some more odds and ends..... -there were 27 shareholders there -the case was the last one for the day and the judge called a break to clear the court room before our case was heard -the judge told everyone that they must leave all cell phones, cameras and recorders outside in a conference room. -Wyatt sat beside AH representing the plaintiffs....AT was there and sat in the audience -AH briefly talked to the shareholders in a scrum after the case was dismissed. -In the scrum, AH said that he would take the case all the way to the SC if needed and would file an appeal if we are not paid in the next few weeks....there was no line drawn in the sand -the judge let AH go first in his comments followed by the young lawyer. -AH indicated that he didn't agree with the judge's ruling because of the significance of the lawsuit and the number of shareholders it represented. AH reiterated what he said in his previous filing. -the SEC lawyer said very little summing everything up with a comment that since the trust is a private trust with a private company, as was stated by AH in his summary, it has nothing to do with the SEC. -AH tried to talk to the SEC lawyer before the case started, but he knew nothing about what was going on and was useless to talk to. He said he was there merely to accept the judge's decision. This info is taken from Don McCurdy on Paltalk who was at the courthouse that's about it tramp2.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=15147
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 7, 2010 8:39:03 GMT -5
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 7, 2010 8:46:43 GMT -5
By: jay_adobe
07 Dec 2010, 06:12 AM EST Rating: post rating 5 Msg. 975712 of 975713 Jump to msg. #
'Tis a glorious moment in time to be a CMKX shareholder.
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 7, 2010 9:03:59 GMT -5
bbildman DIAMOND JEDI What Now?? « Thread Started Today at 4:02am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What we have NOW is Al Hodges' comment about being a betting man and Christmas payout. If indeed money is about to be distributed he COULD HAVE/SHOULD HAVE said in no uncertain terms that the money is in the hands of the trustee and WILL BE DISTRIBUTED within a certain time frame -- if indeed his knowledge tells him there are no more imponderables. That he didn't tells me all the "T's and I's" have yet to be crossed and dotted. What we NEED now is a firm forthright announcement from Al Hodges in no uncertain terms, affirming WHAT the mechanism for distribution is, HOW it is going to be implemented, and WHEN this WILL happen. Until then we are left only with a dismissed lawsuit, another reference point left unexplained and exactly where we were before December 6th (and even when the Bivens suit was originally filed). I am excited that all this has transpired, but sense an empty space in my gut that needs to filled and explained. Otherwise, we can only repeatedly state... WHAT NOW??When money is in all our hands, that and only that will close this chapter...anything else, words, betting and surmising only brings us round the circle to where we were last January. Or before. Here's to Al Hodges for his work...but it is not yet finished. Tell us the payment details. Including time frame. atb DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Re: What Now?? « Reply #9 Today at 8:54am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hey guys and gals, don't be so hard on bbildman. I wondered the same thing when someone posted Al's comment about being a betting mnan. My conclusion is similar, and that is, there are still some variables at work and things must go according to the plan. Al even mentioned that an appeal is possible, but, he did not think that it was necessary. Now, with that said, we were also told back in August about things that they did not think were necessary, but, it turns out that they were. Same thing with dates. We were told that it wouldn't go past this date. A line in the sand has been drawn. Well, it went past those dates. All in all, I think that it was a very good day on yesterday, and I am just waiting for an update from Al. millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=35666
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 7, 2010 9:07:26 GMT -5
oaks DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Re: SEC and Hodges agree TRUST is with DTCC??.... « Reply #2 Today at 12:39am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frankly I don't care how the funds are released as long as the funds get RELEASED! I have always thought it would likely follow the FAIR FUND type of distribution, wherein an Administrator or Trustee is appointed and a website is generally established with all the criteria for claiming and receiving, with contact numbers, etc. IMO, this would be a very good way for it to be handled, but as long as we get paid it matters not about the HOW. Oaks (aimho) millionaires.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=35663
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Post by soonerlew on Dec 7, 2010 9:11:07 GMT -5
scruffy2 DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Re: SEC and Hodges agree TRUST is with DTCC??.... « Reply #7 Today at 2:03am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sorry Andy, I'm a positve sorta guy too but I don't follow you here and think that perhaps you have missed something? Please correct me if I am wrong? You have posed a question about the DTCC and then proceded to develop a theory based upon that when BH at least has said that the funds are now in the hands of our trustee. Big difference eh? I personally like and appreciate BH's rendition of what is transpiring here much more than yours. Please give us some understanding of why you think the DTCC is still involved with us in any way? Thanks Pete oaks DIAMOND JEDI MASTER Re: SEC and Hodges point to TRUST is with DTCC??.. « Reply #8 Today at 2:21am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It appears to me the DTCC has been the likely holder of our monies over this past several years. It is also likely the DTCC has now handed control of these funds to an independent Trustee/Administrator as BH has stated. I found it very interesting that the SEC lawyer would state the DTCC is a private company and the SEC does not involve itself, which is not entirely true...LOL As much as I just want see us all GET PAID, I also enjoy trying to figure out the maze and who we caught or involved within it. Cheers and I think we will hear from Mr. Hodges imminently. Oaks (aimho) scruffy2 DIAMOND JEDI WARLORD Re: SEC and Hodges point to TRUST is with DTCC??.. « Reply #9 Today at 2:34am » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy are you suggesting that IBM worked for What makes you even think such things? Maybe you have lost me though? Yes, I hope we hear from Al soon too. I think it is time he said something official about the dismissal at least. millionaires.proboards.com/index.....ay&thread=35663
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 7, 2010 13:11:52 GMT -5
deltadon30228 Dr. Of Diamonds Re: ** UPDATE PG 9 Updates from Courtroom** « Reply #297 Today at 11:26am » I have no idea if AL will speak today or ever, but honestly all I'm looking for is a packet delivered to my doorstep. That will be proof in your hands. PERIOD. If AL were to speak how many on here would still not believe it's over? Look AL said some very solid things to several shareholders last night that should give you all the confidence you need. Remember this won't hit the public so I don't think AL will come out and tell you he has $XXXX amount of dollars in a trust in his name. I would think what he said last night would be all he can say. Here's why I think that and I could be wrong, but why do you think we haven't heard from the plaintiffs? Don't you think that is a little strange when you couldn't get some of them to shut up before this week. Come on, start thinking outside the box, you have to if you want to understand this whole journey. WE WON, IT'S OVER! Give it a couple days. We are hearing from outside sources that money will flow before XMAS, we all know this isn't just about us. Al's place in the tree of wealth is further up the echelon than you think, do you think he would be saying what he said last night if the plan wasn't ready to go? Don, IMHO portrush Global Moderator Re: ** UPDATE PG 9 Updates from Courtroom** « Reply #309 Today at 11:41am » There is a lot of truth in this post. I would encourage folks to read it twice. This will not be public in the sense that details will be accountable...and until you actually do hold something in your hands, all the chatter on the boards will not matter. This isn't something to be "figured out." pr
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 7, 2010 18:04:24 GMT -5
sunbeam777 Diamondologist Re: ***Rumor Discussion Thread*** « Reply #256 Today at 9:26am »
crazyoldman_1: sarge_66: spoke to salty(plaintiff) just now, and he said to wish everyone BEST Christmas Wishes, and that he very pleased with developments yesterday... We are Good To Go
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 7, 2010 18:06:07 GMT -5
sunbeam777 Diamondologist Re: ***Rumor Discussion Thread*** « Reply #260 Today at 9:50am » gr8hiker: Just so you know, Hodges did state last night privately that just about everything he's seen on the boards since the hearing has been accurate.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 7, 2010 18:08:16 GMT -5
waiting patiently.... ok maybe not so patiently but waiting nonetheless.......sunbeam777 Diamondologist Re: ***Rumor Discussion Thread*** « Reply #262 Today at 10:30am » SuzieQ: (9:28 AM) mike6850: mooney, Richard (SiriusNews) called me this mourning saying Al told him he would address the share holders today.~~~~ yay! he's awake
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 7, 2010 18:10:38 GMT -5
thanks PJ..... thanks georgie18
From last night.. 12-6-10 from Mels Paltalk room:
(10:30 PM) very_tired15: today's hap0penings? (10:30 PM) very_tired15: happenings (10:30 PM) very_tired15: what would you like to know?>
(10:30 PM) ksp11: VT do you know anything about how the military fits into this? 10:30 PM) very_tired15: I personally do not kknow how the military fits in.. what I was told is that they control the final disbursement (10:30 PM) dan4LE: When and how much...kidding. (10:31 PM) very_tired15: when? I don't know. how much'? I don't know.. (10:31 PM) very_tired15: I see disbursement happening very soon... no reason to hold it up anymore.. (10:32 PM) very_tired15: I believe today was the last page to be written in the public book of cmkx.. (10:33 PM) very_tired15: I have neither heard nor seen anything of a credible nature to make me believe that Deli's shares are not just as good as anyone else's/ (10:32 PM) Waylon: 'Allan, Did you get to talk privately to Hodges today ?? (10:33 PM) very_tired15: I did not talk provately to AL today (10:33 PM) LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: allan..do you think Staub was admitting there was a trust..or was he just referencing als assertion that the DTCC held our money? 10:33 PM) very_tired15: Staub did mention that the trust was in private hands (10:33 PM) very_tired15: when AH will talk is a mystery to me.. I would imagine within the next couple days (10:34 PM) very_tired15: I believe the money is with a private trustee (10:34 PM) oscart01: VT.... why do you think the military are involved with payments? (10:34 PM) very_tired15: oscar, I do not know for certain, but it makes sense int he fact that neither political party can be trusted (10:34 PM) coachjack12: Allan do you now think w/ certainty that there is a trust and or multiple trusts (10:35 PM) very_tired15: theey admitted to the existence of a trust in open court (10:34 PM) coachjack12: Allan do you now think w/ certainty that there is a trust and or multiple trusts (10:35 PM) very_tired15: coachy, I believe that there is one. maybe more than one trust (10:36 PM) very_tired15: a trustee is a private entity.. in many cases.. it can be a corporation, but thaqt is still private, versus public being the governmenty (10:37 PM) very_tired15: the military is involved in global settlements.. and if we are attached to those trusts being released, then in a sense, they control when we get our monewy
(10:37 PM) very_tired15: from what I gather from AH, there willbe onepayourt.. but anything can change' (10:37 PM) very_tired15: no trust name mentioned ' (10:36 PM) oscart01: Allan, can you tell us something we would never think to ask? Any surprises? (10:39 PM) very_tired15: something you would never ask? hmmm.. Al gave an interesting speech about the nature of the court's power of reviewing the actions of government, citing Marbury vs. Madison - a classic case.. // the judge watned everyone not to record the hearing and made everyone turn over their cell phones
(10:36 PM) insider5454: tired your gut feeing on first pay out , how much? (10:40 PM) very_tired15: gut feeling? I go on what AH told me.. look at the complaint and figure it out.. that leaves me with over $6 (10:37 PM) coachjack12: Allan are you now in the small pymnt 1st camp? (10:40 PM) very_tired15: small 1st payment? I believe that ther could be a small disbursement from the SEC from the fair funds.. along with our pacvkets.. but I am not certain (10:40 PM) very_tired15: I do not believe it is still in the DTCC (10:44 PM) Booger-Brains-CMKX: Alan in your opinion was Staub simply reiterating Hodges statement from the Sept Hearing that the Trust is held with a private entity or did he state it as a fact? (10:45 PM) very_tired15: In my opinion, the context of Staub speaking is that there was a trust in private context, not int he control of the sec (10:44 PM) hundredtoone: The TRUST could RESIDE at the DTCC...but the TRUSTEES could be anyone
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 7, 2010 18:12:16 GMT -5
From Millionaires.. TY Georgie18....
monalisasmiles Re: gossip 12/7/10 « Reply #34 Today at 3:50pm » The following is a MOST EXCELLENT post and the last sentence SAYS IT ALL as we move forward! Mona
Protocol: To the best of my recollection, Al mentioned to those of us standing outside the courtroom:
1. 300 people had been served for financial fraud and there are more to follow with arrests.
2. Everyone wants to see proof however,
The reason for the hearing was not about presenting proof but about weather the complaint that was framed and filed has legal standing in this court.
a. One of the points here is that the judge and the other side have to assume that every point in the filing submitted is true.
b. The test this court was constrained to rule on was that if the plaintiff (Al Hodges) goes to trial and proves everything stated in his complaint, is he entitled to a judgment/verdict?
c. This court says, NO d. No, because we don't qualify for the takings clause. e. No, because we don't have property interest in the shares we hold.
That's the current state of the law in the 9th circuit court.
Al argued yesterday that it was in fact a taking and the shareholders did hold shares considered to be property that had value.
The company (CMKM) was structured and had business rulings that rendered the shares of CMKM real and valid. The shareholders had no other recourse or means of redress against the government and this appeal was the only means of acquiring justice and restitution.
As far as the US attorney that was there representing the defendants:
Al said this guy is the head US attorney in the LA office and he is very competent. He doesn't know much of anything because his clients are not communicating with him and do not need to at this point.
So, when he stands up there to argue he is doing so with minimal understanding of his clients true role and culpability. They are not giving him direction or facts.
If we go along with the idea this was scripted and yielded plausible deniability for the government then it makes sense when AL says this is over by Christmas... Yesterdays hearing lent to logical reasoning that this has reached a conclusion. Al can of course take this further with an appeal in 30 days which he says he will do if we are not paid.
We will see where it goes by the end of the year.
God willing, all the work behind the scenes is done and payments begin shortly!
Proto
(Sirius, Don and Ceaser, thanks for lunch and the talk. It was a pleasure meeting some of those who endured this ride) - looking forward to a bright future with the CMKX group. There are a lot of honest regular folks in this and it would serve a Righteous cause if we were all prospered and placed into the ranks of wealthy people if nothing but to influence those who have allowed money to rule their souls... keep the faith ~ stay humble
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 8, 2010 0:10:04 GMT -5
Yesterday at 10:37pm, enoughalready wrote: that is not a good post from BH...he does sound doubtful
BHollenegg Diamond Finder Re: ***Rumor Discussion Thread*** « Reply #300 Yesterday at 10:56pm »
Based on the update the plaintiffs received received prior to Thanksgiving, the CMKX Distribution Fund was projected to be released on Thanksgiving Week. So, if you were a betting person, what would you conclude about the release occurring before Christmas? I am not (a betting person). The funds need to be released now....please.
Thank you, BHollenegg
No, I am positive...here is the message not taken out on context.
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Post by imSINGLEruRICH on Dec 8, 2010 0:30:23 GMT -5
Richerob SC Directive is working! « Thread Started Today at 6:12pm » Confirmation the SC directive is working is because the Black Farmers and Indian Settlements were finally approved by the House and the Senate and will be signed tomorrow (confirmed) by Obama. Why was the Black Farmers settlement all of a sudden approved in November after 10 delays alone this year not too mention all the years prior. The SC Directive which Al Hodges obtained is not for CMKX only it is to have ALL the World Global Settlements funded by Dec 31, 2010. See why Black Farmers & Indian Settlements all of a sudden got approved so quickly before 2010 ends. IMHO ER immediately after Obama signs Black Farmers @ 5:30pm 5:30 PM Wednesday The President signs the Claims Resolution Act of 2010 www.whitehouse.gov/schedule/complete/2010-W50Cheers and excellent job Al & Team!! Richerob
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